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2181  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 15, 2016, 11:32:18 PM
When xmr hit dollar parity, it stuck there and has moved only pennies up and down.
Vat iss the meanink of diss!?

Same happened for a long time around 50 cents. I would guess this doesn't mean anything other than that many alts tend to trade relative to fiat now (especially since roughly October of 2015, but somewhat before too), not BTC. When BTC moves, the alts move opposite.
2182  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [neㄘcash, ᨇcash, net⚷eys, or viᖚes?] Name AnonyMint's vapor coin? on: April 15, 2016, 11:20:05 PM
I shouldn't have to manually convert divs to multiplications to get the job done faster. It's kind of elemental.

No it isn't elemental and it isn't even a valid optimization (without sacrificing accuracy with -funsafe-math, etc.).

I will insist on that. It is elemental.


Incorrect.  See page 30 here: https://software.intel.com/sites/default/files/article/326703/fp-control-2012-08.pdf

Actually I'd suggest you at least browse the whole document or read some other similar coverage of the topic.

In your particular program it might do the conversion because you have a specific denominator where it can determine that the optimization is safe. It isn't in general.

As for the rest of your program, the problem likely is that it is stupid. Nobody writes a program to perform 20 divisions that way, so the heuristics chosen as a compromise between compiler implementation effort, compiler speed, and runtime speed don't happen to handle it. Doing so would likely involve significant complications having to do with storing local variables in portions of an SSE register (which also requires tool chain support for debugging) and also has the potential to make some code slower.

If you instead did this:

Code:
double b(double a[],double d)
{
  int i;
  for (i=0; i<20; ++i)
    a[i] /= d;

then you would get more or less exactly what you want:

Code:
	divpd	%xmm1, %xmm2
movapd %xmm2, (%rax)
movapd 16(%rax), %xmm2
divpd %xmm1, %xmm2
movapd %xmm2, 16(%rax)
movapd 32(%rax), %xmm2
divpd %xmm1, %xmm2
movapd %xmm2, 32(%rax)
        ...
2183  Economy / Reputation / Re: Shelᖚy (TPTB_need_war) Psychoanalysis. Smartest Man in the Altcoin Discussions? on: April 15, 2016, 10:13:43 PM
On software development, terms of implementation he is hopeless. I read not long time ago, he said none of the popular existing programming languages - which could expose the project to existing developer communities - satisfies his requirements, and therefore he is evaluating now the Rust language/framework. WTF? So he delays his progress again, because right now the programing languages are not suited to his use case. WTF again? It seems he doesn't have the ability to deliver anything, except showcasing his super intellect in this forum.

I agree with you on this. You go to war with the army you have, while working to make it better. Waiting for the perfect language guarantees waiting forever.

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Terms of his scam busting mission, as I said several times, make no mistake, he is not worried about the scams - in fact he said scams are "part of the game" -, he is just building up his honest and ethical profile, because he is preparing for a P&D to satisfy his "angel investors". Still, he is right about the scams, but he is not so innocent scam busting crusader as he present himself.

On the personal level, - apart from his incoming P&D venture - he is a very nice guy, the BCT forum wouldn't be the same without him.

This seems somewhat unfair. You can't say what he will or won't do in the future and it isn't fair to criticize someone for what he hasn't done yet. AFAIK, he hasn't launched any coins or released any software (which as you say above, is part of the problem), P&D or otherwise. Please wait until he does something wrong before condemning him for it.
2184  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: IOHK Research and Scorex ARE NOT working with Waves on: April 15, 2016, 10:09:05 PM
My (wild guess) opinion/speculation follows. I can read between the lines too, as many of you probably did also. Kushti is friends with Sasha. Kushti is a Russian who isn't hung up on formalities of laws we have in the West and is primarily interested in developing the code and having enough money to afford better lighting in his dingy apartment (this is a joke for anyone who has seen the Waves Hangout video). I guesstimate that Kushti doesn't have an ethical stance against ICOs and he probably thinks it was all just hunkydory.

Boy I dont' quite know whether you're conscientiously wrote down that shockingly stupid and pretty racist crap or you're just a mindless zombie repeating stereotypes got during Crappy Nonsense Network (CNN) or other media paranoia consumption. Anyway I would like to suggest you to get rid of the brainwashing. I'm pretty sure my advise will be ignored though.

---------------

As I already mentioned we (me & Sasha, then Sasha & Charles, then three of us) had some calls. After the third one we also had an internal meeting and decided to wait for concrete tech requirements. Based on them that was my responsibility to make a report to Charles on whether it is reasonable to help Waves in some way or not.

I still don't know why my photo was on the team page. I was offline those days due to a baby delivery, and mostly offline now, so had no call with Sasha yet. Well, I'm in IOHK Research anyway.

Please help clear up any lingering confusion that may exist by answering the questions I posted earlier:

@kushti Did you ever have any formal or informal agreement to serve as an advisor or in any other role on the Waves team, either individually, as a Nxt developer, or as an employee of IOHK? (The latter seems clear from previous posts but best to clarify.)

If not, did you engage in any communications with the Waves team or founders which could reasonably have led them to believe you would serve in such a role?
2185  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: **** Dump Bitcoin and Monero ... Buy Dash **** on: April 15, 2016, 09:59:30 PM
TPTB_need war is being paid by Monero to support their cause.

Monero is not an entity so your sentence is misconstructed. Anyway, I'm not paying him and I don't know anyone who is.

I also doubt he would take money from anyone to shill. That's very much inconsistent with his fiercely independent character.

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There IS NO INSTAMINE. Do your fucking research

Independent research the first version of which almost (but not quite) predates Monero (late April 2014). Certainly it predates Monero as a significant organized project.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=587086.0
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=a_massive_investigation_of_instamines_and_fastmines_for_the_top_alt_coins

EDIT: credit to qwizzle for at least acknowledging the instamine, unlike the stupid first post here.
2186  Economy / Reputation / Re: Shelᖚy (TPTB_need_war) Psychoanalysis. Smartest Man in the Altcoin Discussions? on: April 15, 2016, 09:52:25 PM
Nevertheless, off topic in this section, unless 'Shelby' is some new coin.

Its all about the altcoin discussions and Shelbys involvement.

The coin is not called  Shelᖚy.   It's called  Viᖚes.

Link please, I want to mine it, or run node or something.
2187  Economy / Reputation / Re: Shelᖚy (TPTB_need_war) Psychoanalysis. Smartest Man in the Altcoin Discussions? on: April 15, 2016, 09:42:43 PM
Nevertheless, off topic in this section, unless 'Shelby' is some new coin.
2188  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Are the Dash developers getting desperate? on: April 15, 2016, 09:38:26 PM
I'm no expert, but it seems like there's a lot of bad vibes coming from the Dash developers recently.

Please stop.

You're making yourselves look massively stupid and it does nothing to support your coin.

Concentrate on Dash's weaknesses before you go around criticizing other projects.

Rant over.

Plus ca change

Ah fuck, a Dash owner. Should have known.

It's weird. I remember when Darkcoin was labelling Litecoin 'the most toxic community in the cryptospace'. And I remember thinking, why? What has Litecoin ever done to deserve that title? Charlie Lee is a good guy, LTC was fairly launched with no instamine, it changed the algorythm for the better, had a grassroots orientated ethic where everyone had to contribute to make it work, set against the backdrop of a genuinely hostile BTC crowd - what did Litecoin ever do to deserve that mantra from Darkcoin?

Why is it always seemingly the good projects, I wondered, that get attacked so.

And here we are again, Darkcoin aka Dash once again labelling the taxon 'toxic community' to another fairly launched project, also with a credible collective of good-intentioned developers, honest tech that works and is endorsed and contributed to by some of the most respectable people in the industry.

What is it I wonder about Dash that makes it so antagonistic of fairly launched grassroots projects?

Is it perhaps a kind of psychological denial that's projected outward in view of the hideous 50% instamine that props the entire enterprise up? Perhaps it's the embarrassing cult-like dictat that surrounds thy great leader, Evan Duffield, who is able to afford 'great achievements' for his pot-smoking subordinates.

Dash is quite possibly one of the worst projects I've ever encountered, and I'm not joking when I say that I've yet to meet a Dash owner who is not a brain-dead twat.

If that's toxic, then I apologise on your behalf. Because if calling out a project for being absolute bullshit (and yes, that does indeed include snake-oil) makes me a cunt, then let it be so.

Because I would much much rather be labelled toxic for speaking the truth, than suffer the taxon of being a part of the most ignorant, passive, suck-cocky, college-doofused plastic-politicked twatstain of a retard community that is Dash, that seemingly doesn't have the brains to understand cryptography, nor the balls to stand-up for what is right.
2189  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why the bitmonero/monero Ninjalaunched Cripplemined Fastmine matters on: April 15, 2016, 09:35:16 PM
When we jump from that date to present date, there is one simple fact that remains : there is still no official GUI wallet
Information from Monero itself indicates and support that :

http://monero.org/faq-items/where-is-the-monero-xmr-gui-wallet/

That web site is a domain squatter.

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Sure there are several unofficial versions but those are not supported, maintained or even further developed by Monero itself and therefore Monero can not and will not be held responsible if anything happens to these wallets.

Monero is not an entity so your sentence is misconstructed, but in any case regardless of what wallet you use, no one else is responsible for your use of open source software provided at no charge with no warranty. Use at your own risk.


Maybe a good idea to mention that on Monero's website somewhere. So with regards to Monero's Cripplemined Fastmine history, is there any official thread where this is pinned down
and for all to read ? Is there a birth of Monero where this is described ?

In terms of "fastmined", nothing has changed so the formula in the ANN OP (and possibly something on the web site) serves a complete and accurate description of the one emission curve that has ever existed.

As far as "cripplemined" that term doesn't even have a well defined meaning but the full and accurate history of the mining code is here: https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/commits/master

We've never created a "Birth of Darkcoin Monero" post to try to spin and obfuscate; it is all there in the previous paragraph.

There is a history writeup somewhere (I think by fluffypony) that describes the background, creation of the core team, etc. I don't know where it is though.


2190  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [neㄘcash, ᨇcash, net⚷eys, or viᖚes?] Name AnonyMint's vapor coin? on: April 15, 2016, 09:22:16 PM
But -fprofile-generate on top of -Ofast shouldn't give me 500ms instead of 1200 (~2.5x speedup). That's totally absurd. It's just running a profiler (with OVERHEAD) to monitor how the flow goes, writing the profile on the disk and then using the profile for the next compilation run. It's not supposed to go faster. It never goes faster with a profiler.

Somewhat, but compilation is a series of heuristics. Getting the fastest possible program is likely theoretically and certainly practically impossible.
2191  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [neㄘcash, ᨇcash, net⚷eys, or viᖚes?] Name AnonyMint's vapor coin? on: April 15, 2016, 09:20:00 PM
I shouldn't have to manually convert divs to multiplications to get the job done faster. It's kind of elemental.

No it isn't elemental and it isn't even a valid optimization (without sacrificing accuracy with -funsafe-math, etc.).

These are not real numbers. a/b = a*(1/b) is FALSE in general for floating point

This kind of assumption on your part indicates part of the problem you are having in not understanding programming very well.

That said, I agree with you the compiler is just not doing a very good job with SSE instructions in some cases for multiple scalars. It does better with arrays (in some cases at least).
2192  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [NEWS] Monero David Latapie French Police Fraud [updated] on: April 15, 2016, 12:37:51 PM
But if i was a Supporter that was screwed over i would want to know why Monero was damaged so badly.

Please find one supporter who was screwed over.

When you have done that, then go right ahead and post about it. Until then, you have nothing to post about.
2193  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 15, 2016, 12:35:17 PM
Do you think USD/EUR to XMR gateway would boost Monero?

(Assuming you mean boost the price.)

By a little, at least in the short term. Longer term the effect may be larger but it will be impossible to run the experiment since there either will or will not be such gateway.

Purely my opinion with no supporting evidence.

Well, by boost I mean mostly the adoption of XMR (also rise of price).

Do you guys think it will importantly increase XMR adoption?

Yes it probably would.

In terms of transactional use, it would help alongside other factors such as ease of integration on the merchant side, and somewhat on the end user side, including native APIs, better documentation, and turnkey payment processing (and on the end user side more wallets). There are many components that all have to fit together, any one or two by themselves won't do much.

In terms of use as a store of value, some are probably put off by the two step process of needing to go through BTC which adds both inconvenience and probably cost.

On the other hand, it may be that usage of crypto will come mostly from other markets that may have trouble accessing a USD or EUR gateway even if one existed. Venezuela is mentioned a lot for example (mostly in connection with Bitcoin).
2194  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 15, 2016, 12:24:47 PM
Do you think USD/EUR to XMR gateway would boost Monero?

(Assuming you mean boost the price.)

By a little, at least in the short term. Longer term the effect may be larger but it will be impossible to run the experiment since there either will or will not be such gateway.

Purely my opinion with no supporting evidence.
2195  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dash: The Future Internet Of Money? on: April 15, 2016, 12:23:24 PM
Those are some very good points stan.distortion, and I'm indeed interested to see how things go with these budget/governance systems (not only Dash but also some of the other coins that have similar approaches).

Thank you for the respectful and informative exchange. I have mentioned before that I own some DASH (which is still the case), and there are things I like about it, despite being critical of others.
What exactly do you like about Dash? I've seen a lot of negativity surrounding Dash here on the forum, I'm not quite sure wether the majority of it is legitimate or not.

Here's what I wrote a while back. The main thing I would say has changed is JoinMarket is more proven now (though still not integrated into wallets afaik) and has much higher usage, negating the value of Darksend as a Bitcoin improvement. The rest are probably unchanged. I have no view on Evolution.

Smooth. You say you own some Dash, then you must think there are good points. Care to name any?

I only own a small amount at the moment, so I wouldn't represent my holdings a serious investment position.

Asking about good points is a fair question, though. In no particular order:

Releases tend to, you know, get released. The last major release was a significant upgrade and seemed to have relatively few roll out problems. That speaks to the ability of the team to deliver.

It has low inflation, so in a weak market (one driven more by supply considerations than consistent demand) on might expect less price weakness from dumping of new supply than otherwise. I'm not sure about this though, as one can look to something like Nxt which has zero inflation and has still performed terribly, and Dash hasn't retained value all that well either. Nxt lacks Dash's structural incentive to hold though so that may make a difference (you can stake, but the rewards are negligible).

The InstantX system, while flawed, is like most "zero conf" systems in that is sufficient for casual transitions, and is deployed. If there were actually a lot of routine commerce going on with Dash that would be very nice. There isn't, but the feature being there means one obstacle has been removed.

Likewise Darksend is also not perfect, but again for a degree of casual privacy it exists and mostly works. This could until recently be viewed as a clear improvement on Bitcoin, although JoinMarket has come on the scene and is probably about as good as Darksend (which is to say both are flawed, but the flaws are different), so I'm not sure this is true any more. Darksend is still a bit more mature, as JoinMarket hasn't been integrated into any wallets yet, though I do expect that to happen.

In general, I don't like the idea of investing in what is basically a one-man asset, but as leaders go, Evan seems to do a good job and I would rate his day-to-day leadership as apparently favorable (I don't see everything "behind the scenes" of course so I can't say absolutely this is true). I think Dash would do well to develop a broader team of visible people with both leadership and technical skills though.

The idea of (large) coin holders voting to allocate a budget is worth experimenting with.

It has a high market cap ranking which has its own value in terms of visibility.

As a hedge it may be mathematically worth owning some even if you don't think it will succeed (though you do need to believe there is at least some change it will appreciate in value, which I do). There aren't really any other vehicles with directly comparable properties.
2196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [DASH] Dash - Building the IoM | Dash Nation Progress Thread on: April 15, 2016, 12:13:08 PM
It is easy to say "the information is out there" but it isn't always easy to find everything especially for people (such as Tone and Trace) who are involved with a lot of different activities and have limited time to spend researching any particular coin.

That`s why I had suggested you compile a document with all the info you consider vital to be put on Dash.org. I would support that. I am all in favor of transparency and imho the DASH team has nothing to hide.
Of course (audiatur est altera pars), the DASH team would be allowed to a response.
In case you kept bitching about the instamine after that, it would help the poor new investors in determing what your agenda actually is.
Who knows, maybe you and your buddies are the ones they should be warned about?

That information has already been compiled:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999886.0

That's kind of true. That post is old and missing a lot of new information. I'll get around to updating it one of these days. Dnaleor's writeup is also good, and more readable than mine (but also missing some things).

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smooth don't fall for this disingenuous game. This is a well known obfuscation tactic. The opposer will demand you do more work to repeat the work you already did, and will demand this over and over again even after you repeat it N times, until you get tired and give up.

Agree. They can improve their disclosure any time they want. Given that there have been multiple revisions and new statements, and the disclosure has gotten no better and possibly worse, they don't want.
2197  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [DASH] Dash - Building the IoM | Dash Nation Progress Thread on: April 15, 2016, 11:39:08 AM
I'm pretty sure I have already described the problems with incomplete, misleading, and selective disclosure and they aren't so easy to solve. No one can prevent toknormal from using minimizing and dismissive phrases such as 'launch issues'. Adding a link to some inconspicuous corner of the web site is not going to fix it. Perhaps some long and serious introspection on the matter and a decision to proceed with far more candor by various Dash stakeholders could improve the situation, but let's face it, Evan and maybe a few others run the show, and they've made clear how they want to portray the instamine by now.

FWIW, I have a hard time believing that you really care about coding of a competing coin, so let's just cut out the obvious bullshit please.

Well, you certainly know the principle "audiatur est altera pars". It does not say the other party HAS to accept your view, but that your view shall be heard. You are basically saying that nothing would make you happy, which I understand, because it`s not about new investors, who can then decide if they care or not about the alleged "scam". You want your view on the matter imposed on everybody and can`t accept a different view, simply because you are the leading dev of a competing project, which is why I call bullshit on your hypocrisy. You want this saga to continue. In my book this is called trolling, but hey, who am I to tell you what to do. Tone can also think what he wants. I am sure you won`t quote him if he was ever to change his mind again. Trayce Mayer is fine with the research he did:
http://www.bitcoin.kn/2016/02/dash-lead-developer-evan-duffield-discusses-cryptocurrency-experimentation/
Now what? Is he also deluded or culpable as everyone is who does not accept your slanderous presentation of so called facts?

I don't know what information he has considered but it is certainly plausible the information he's seen has been deceptive, misleading, incomplete or some combination, given everything I've already pointed out about how Dash presents it. That is exactly the information that Tone saw, before he dug deeper.

It is easy to say "the information is out there" but it isn't always easy to find everything especially for people (such as Tone and Trace) who are involved with a lot of different activities and have limited time to spend researching any particular coin.

Anyway, this isn't about making me happy. There are specific items I have pointed out are either relevant and missing or flat out incorrect in Dash communications about the topic. It doesn't matter whether you make smooth happy or not. Either way, go improve the disclosure. Or don't, but you are scamming if you don't.




2198  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [DASH] Dash - Building the IoM | Dash Nation Progress Thread on: April 15, 2016, 11:27:59 AM
pre-history

For example ^

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7. "Official Communication" from Dash dated January 26, 2016 blaming the instamine on inherited Litecoin code (which is factually false).

8. Recent edits to Dash ANN OP claiming the coin was "fairly and transparently launched".

People running this coin and many (though not all) in the community are actively, today, working to bury and hide the facts from investors. I understand wanting to sell your product, but when accurate disclosure takes a back seat to selling, you are scamming.
2199  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: April 15, 2016, 11:17:52 AM
Does Monero hide all the three: sender, sending amount and receiver?

Currently, the sender and the receiver are the most obscured components.

see:

http://moneroblocks.info/tx/a4edc29bc83100bbde81b30c065289eabf639e0e6e87df4b5b85d154280c42c8


Once Ring Confidential Transactions is implemented, the amount will also be obscured.

To clarify, amount is somewhat hidden because it is broken up into pieces, some of which are change and some which are the actual payment, and which are which is not explicitly identified. Sometimes you can infer something or even quite a bit about the amount from this. Of course you can always tell the maximum.

As GingerAle indicated once RingCT is integrated the amount will be fully hidden.
2200  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: IOHK Research and Scorex ARE NOT working with Waves on: April 15, 2016, 10:56:48 AM
In this case it seems possible that the end-product can be marketed to banks or finance business even if the kickstarter part was funded by a non-(US)compliant funding. Can still pass as a grey area.

I agree with you that it is possible, but it would require that the platform be extremely compelling. Only in that instance will banks and other conservative, often heavily-regulated business touch anything in a gray area. We've seen how they have been very reluctant to get involved with Bitcoin, for example. It hasn't prevented a few trailblazers from venturing into that gray area, but only once Bitcoin reached a relatively enormous size and impact (relative to the apparent prospects of new crypto projects, not relative to conventional finance).

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