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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: October 18, 2018, 07:59:07 PM
How to use derod_database.db file from here http://seeds.dero.io/alpha/atlantisDB/ ?
Should I simply place it to the /mainnet folder in the wallet?

Correct.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: October 18, 2018, 06:28:56 PM
How does one mine dero?

With a cryptonight ASIC.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: XMR-stak-JK 2.5.1 Compiled with no devfee 2018-10-18 Fork ready on: October 18, 2018, 03:04:12 PM
I just got 2.5.1-JK running on two different rigs and it was painless for one and quite painful for the other. The painless one is my "daily driver" desktop with a single RX 570 and Ryzen 5 1600, Windows 10 1803 (ie - just got the fall update), AMD 18.5.1 driver, and MSI AB 4.4.0 set to -25% power, 1200 core and 1900 mem.

The problematic rig is 4x RX 560 2GB on an Onda D1800 6-GPU mining mobo running Windows 10 1709 (ie - NOT updated), AMD 18.6.1 (ie - newer driver) and uses OverDrivenTool to setup the GPUs rather than MSI AB. This rig kept crashing either during the bin file compiling or as soon as it logged into the pool. After wrestling with different things for an hour I finally tried bumping up all the voltages in the mem and core clock profiles by 25mV and that stopped the crashing. Of course, that increases the power consumption slightly, but the hashrate is otherwise the same (this is mining Lethean (formerly IntenseCoin), which is still running what is essential CNv7).

4  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: October 18, 2018, 12:29:59 PM
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But are you seriously going to deny that the distribution isn't biased? The picture clearly shows that almost for every rank, they're more likely to merit their same rank, rather than a much higher or a much lower rank. That goes for EVERYONE, NOT JUST HEROES AND LEGENDARIES.
to interpret this table.
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You've been droning on about how unfair the merit system is for quite awhile now. Why do you care so much, anyway if legendaries mainly give out merit to other legendaries, etc.? In fact, why do you care about a system that has absolutely no relevance in the real world. It's not like the barista at Starbucks is going to give you a discount on your double soy-boy latte for saying you've earned x number of merits on BCT, after all.

5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GPU Mining Is NOT Profitable In My HOUSE - October 2018 Mining Farm Update on: October 16, 2018, 11:46:38 PM
I turned off everything except for a rig with RX560/570 cards that are mining a CN-fork coin and just barely making $0.20/day of profit after electricity. If I were selling what I mined on a daily basis this wouldn't be worth the bother, but since I am hodling the coins the modest profitability means I am making more coins per day than I could get from buying for the same cost as the electricity.

However, if the profit turns into a loss - as it has with the Equihash and Ethash coins I was mining - then I will turn this last rig off, too, and buy coins instead.

6  Other / Meta / Re: Unfair to Jr.Members on: October 16, 2018, 11:02:33 PM
ya man this is some real bullshit up in here. Yall gonna make me lose my mind.

I shoulda been member rank by now.  Jews dont wanna hand out the merits.

You have 1 measly merit and you already signed up for one of the shittiest shitcoin sig campaigns around. Please tell me more about your first world problems vis-a-vis merit.

7  Other / Meta / Re: How to deal with bumping via fake conversation? on: October 16, 2018, 07:38:37 PM
(Unpaid) bump - I've been reporting more users for plagiarism in the Neluns, Neogame.io, DBX, SafeInsure and Biohal threads but I think at this point these threads need to be either locked or outright trashed as more newbies are being brought online to bump and not all of them have committed plagiarism (lawd knows I'm looking for it).

8  Other / Meta / Re: Wall of fame / shame. Shit posts so bad that they are actually funny on: October 16, 2018, 11:10:38 AM
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I conceive that could be viable, mainly in a burly rubberneck loci in organization to construct the pay business in carry easy and fast.

Doubters will question the origin of these posts and blame it on a glitchy spinbot but for the rest of us...this is an eye-opening experience.


This was at turns hilarious and terrifying so I had to check out rucapri0's post history and found a lot of posts in Russian. I was very curious to see if the Russian was gibberish, too, but Google seems able to make sense of it:

Уже все давно понимают, что там где хорошие отзывы, криптоиндустрия готова очень щедро платить. Вот и пользуются.  Проблема в том, что чаще всего таким рейтингам доверяют новички

Translation:

Everyone has long understood that where there is good feedback, the cryptoindustry is ready to pay very generously. So enjoy. The problem is that most often these ratings are trusted by beginners.

Which I would classify as more of a generic shitpost, rather than the epic "burly rubberneck loci" of his English ramblings.
9  Other / Meta / Re: The new rule (1 Merit for Jr. Member) is already reducing spam on: October 16, 2018, 10:15:09 AM
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Lets remove Juniors sigs completely and make the merit requirement ten to get one. That way we can be way more liberal with merits and at least a shitposter will have to redeem themselves by making multiple quality posts so their previous history shouldn't be something we have to worry about as they've probably redeemed themselves if they've managed to get the ten merit.
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Hmm... the phrase I underlined is an interesting point which I hadn't thought of despite that I already agreed with your 10 merits to enable sigs suggestion. I definitely would be freer with handing out merits if it took 10 to enable sigs and though I would still check posting history because that's just the way I am, I rather suspect I wouldn't be nearly so thorough about it - just skim the first page, rather than actually read each post on the first 2-3 pages. But this is mainly because of the new form of insidious bump-bot I've been hunting, which engages in "low value discussion" (that is, a two-way conversation that is devoid of real content, as opposed to low value posting, which is basically unidirectional).

10  Other / Meta / Re: The new rule (1 Merit for Jr. Member) is already reducing spam on: October 15, 2018, 10:15:57 PM
But isn't this attitude counter-productive? We're meant to be rewarding users who make decent posts and if a user makes one then that post probably should be merited. I get your logic though ~
But on the other hand I'm with DdmrDdmr too:
~A decent post does not make up for a lame prior posting history. ~

I'm mostly in DdmrDdmr's camp, too, but I also get the point hilariousandco is making. If newbies haven't made at least a couple of decent posts in the month since the new requirements for jr. member took effect then it's probably safe to say they will never get better. Conversely, if a former shitposter/bounty hunter has managed a few good posts in that time then I am less opposed to meriting them. I, personally, won't merit anyone whose post history mostly consists of bounty reports, but that's just a personal preference and, like I said, I see the point hilariousandco is making w/r/t encouraging those users who (might) have realized the error of their shitposting ways.



11  Other / Meta / Re: Wall of fame / shame. Shit posts so bad that they are actually funny on: October 15, 2018, 02:37:17 PM
From the "No Shame In My Game" department:


If you are drawn to the forum only for income, you are doing it wrong.

Yes, everyone wants to get results from this forum, because there are already gifts in this forum, so they will always join the campaign for daily income.
12  Other / Meta / Re: [Guide] Reporting effectively on: October 14, 2018, 10:54:59 PM
unhandled 2+ days later

It's called "weekend". Pour yourself a piquant beverage and relax.

Also you're probably behind my 500 reports in the queue, sorry about that Smiley


Point taken! That said, the bots never sleep, and they never get drunk! Though I'm not entirely sure of that last one...

13  Other / Meta / Re: [Guide] Reporting effectively on: October 14, 2018, 08:37:48 PM
Yo Welsh! I'm starting to go a little crazy from the bump-bots I've been chasing after as outlined in this thread: How to deal with bumping via fake conversation?.

The first batch of bots I got banned were all found to have committed multiple instances of plagiarism, but it took multiple reports to get them banned. The current group are mainly engaging in mindless conversation with far less plagiarism, but even after identifying two instances of plagiarism for several users I still find them posting and the reports are marked unhandled 2+ days later. Needless to say, this is highly demotivating, but if it is an issue with how I am reporting them I'll gladly change tactics. Here's  typical example of a report I sent in:

plagiarism - copied from another bump-bot: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4555585.msg44863033#msg44863033

So, is this a case of the global mod(s) still considering me somewhat untrustworthy for not having enough reports (394 at 99% accuracy) or incorrect report format or overworked mods (ok, that one is a given) or does it really now take multiple instances of plagiarism to get banned?!?

14  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: The basic rules of investing! (Required for newbie !) on: October 14, 2018, 03:37:28 PM
<blah-blah-same old investment advice you can find anywhere deleted for brevity>
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P.s If the post was helpful, I will be glad + Merit  Wink
And yes, share your investment rules or any experience with investments, how to speak, you need to learn from your mistakes and it will be useful for newbie to know! Cool

Quoted for posterity. Merit beggars tend to not get merit, but often get red trust.

15  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [discussion]-down rank😭 on: October 14, 2018, 03:34:32 PM
File under: "How long is a piece of string?"
Alternate category: "I can haz marits?"

16  Other / Meta / Re: Unfair to Jr.Members on: October 14, 2018, 11:05:10 AM
You really think you are the first person to say this in the month since the retroactive requirement for 1 merit to reach jr. member was introduced?

The reason it was made retroactive was to stop the immense amount of sig campaign spamming going on from jr. members who had yet to earn a single merit despite having made hundreds (in some cases thousands) of posts. If it wasn't made retroactive it only would have prevented new sig campaign shitposters from coming online; all the existing shitposters would still be able to ply their filthy trade.



17  Other / Meta / Re: How to deal with bumping via fake conversation? on: October 14, 2018, 10:57:38 AM
It really depends on the individual case for me. I'll delete it if its of low content, and if its particularly a problem I'll message the users involved.
Ugh.  I wouldn't want your job.  The problem with what MagicSmoker is talking about is that these posts look just enough like legitimate ones that you'd be hard-pressed to state with 100% conviction that they're not actually people responding to one another.
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Yeah, the approach currently being taken by the mods just isn't going to work. There's a new batch of bump-bots (apparently using stolen accounts; see next reply below), some of which aren't plagiarizing (yet), but clearly the conversation is manufactured. I mean, what are the chances than an ANN thread will have 10-100 pages of conversation among 6-12 users then when that group of users are banned the thread grinds to a complete halt only for a new batch of 6-12 users to show up and have the exact same style of low-value conversation once again?

I mean, any human can see these conversations are totally fake, but even when I nail some of the participants for plagiarism the reports are staying unhandled 2+ days later. One report of plagiarism with proof provided should be sufficient to get a user banned. Period. Since that isn't happening for me, I have to assume that mods either don't trust my reports (despite 99% good) or else they just aren't processing them. Regardless, it's getting rather difficult to believe anyone on the staff really cares about addressing the spam problem when the reports from people like me who take the time to investigate abuse on an organized/massive scale are ignored.

Really, at this point the NEOGAME.IO, SafeInsure, BIOHAL, DBX and Neluns threads should be locked, if not totally nuked, as they all are filled with fake conversation between bump-bots and precious little real discussion.



Hello, I'll explain what happened: how you see my account is CoinNextTrue, up to a few months ago my account was CoinNextE, then I was stolen, I tried to make it present to the assistance of the forum, but I have not had an answer .
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Yeah, we figured most if not all of these accounts are stolen, as many of them date back to 2014 but with little or no post history until this year (likely the older posts were wiped to cover up a glaring change in style or language used).

18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO]HoweyCoins: the only BitcoinTalk-endorsed ICO - GUARANTEED PROFIT on: October 13, 2018, 04:14:05 PM
Does anybody know how much did they get from ICO?

Yes, I know.

Ooo, ooo, I know too!1!!
19  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: October 12, 2018, 12:21:20 PM
What gave him/her away? The fact that the first part of the sentence was in good English and the second part made no sense? Cheesy

Oddly enough, the initial trigger was that the post seemed out of context with the current discussion - merit has been around for nearly 9 months so "predicting" that most people are going to have trouble getting merit is no prediction at all. It was only after I had already decided to see if the post was plagiarized that I noticed the disparity in grammar between the first two sentences and that barely literate phrase tacked on the end.



I wasn't sure if you reported him, so I did it just to be sure.

It kinda makes me want to Merit him, just to add to the disappointment when he gets banned Cheesy

Have no fear, I *always* report plagiarism when I find it! But more reports are always better, as I have recently learned.

I want the current rumor among the spamming-class that "meta is the place to get dem maritz" to turn into "meta is the place to get yourself banned."
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥🌟🔥【ANN】【ICO】【PRE-SALE】 🚀 BIOHAL 🚀| THE MEDICAL REVOLUTION YOU NEED 🔥🌟🔥 on: October 12, 2018, 11:36:11 AM
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So what solution do you propose?

Not my job, technically, but I would suggest that the project management not hire any thread bumping services because now that you are on the mod's radar the next step may very well getting banned and trashing the entire thread.

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