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BitNow, how do you respond?
Respond to what? I and user BADecker are on the same side: side of Faith (the law of God). I repeat my question: Faith: does it exist without God?
As you stated previously that you are an atheist, how do you relate to yourself the word Faith?
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BitNow, how do you respond?
Respond to what? The rest of the post you didn't quote. Here it is again: BitNow, you say: Here the word Faith means faith in the Supreme.
Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.
However I show that there are opinions - for example from BADecker - that suggest this is not correct. <snip> In conjunction with the above, from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/idol: idol [ahyd-l]
noun 1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed. 2. Bible. an image of a deity other than God. the deity itself. 3. any person or thing regarded with blind admiration, adoration, or devotion: Madame Curie had been her childhood idol. 4. a mere image or semblance of something, visible but without substance, as a phantom. 5. a figment of the mind; fantasy. 6. a false conception or notion; fallacy.
(my bold, for emphasis) BitNow, how do you respond? So, BitNow, how do you respond?
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The rest of the post you didn't quote. Here it is again: BitNow, you say: Here the word Faith means faith in the Supreme.
Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.
However I show that there are opinions - for example from BADecker - that suggest this is not correct. <snip> In conjunction with the above, from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/idol: idol [ahyd-l]
noun 1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed. 2. Bible. an image of a deity other than God. the deity itself. 3. any person or thing regarded with blind admiration, adoration, or devotion: Madame Curie had been her childhood idol. 4. a mere image or semblance of something, visible but without substance, as a phantom. 5. a figment of the mind; fantasy. 6. a false conception or notion; fallacy.
(my bold, for emphasis) BitNow, how do you respond? So, BitNow, how do you respond? Responding to a response? That is not semantically correct. Thank You. Best regards.
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Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ?
Because they don't understand proper English.
What is Faith to you?
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Faith to me is knowing that whatever I do, Zeus is watching over me... One day through keen worship of the one true god ZEUS I hope to get to Valhalla.
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Responding to a response?
That is not semantically correct.
Thank You.
Best regards.
Oh my god! How many pages do you intend to avoid answering a simple question? Let me simplify for you: 1. You, BitNow, think that Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.
2. BADecker believes that an idol is: 1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed. 2. Bible. an image of a deity other than God. the deity itself.
You can't both be correct. Either a religion can or can not worship an idol. You think it can't. BADecker thinks a religion can worship an idol. Which of you is correct and why?
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Faith to me is knowing that whatever I do, Zeus is watching over me... One day through keen worship of the one true god ZEUS I hope to get to Valhalla.
You think Zeus is watching over you because you are wise. " Wisdom’s instruction is to fear the Lord, and humility comes before honor." - Pro 15:33 Wisdom leads to science. Do you hate Science?
Responding to a response?
That is not semantically correct.
Thank You.
Best regards.
Oh my god! How many pages do you intend to avoid answering a simple question? Let me clarify for you: 1. You, BitNow, think that Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.
2. BADecker believes that an idol is: 1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed. 2. Bible. an image of a deity other than God. the deity itself.
You can't both be correct. Either a religion can or can not worship an idol. You think it can't. BADecker thinks a religion can worship an idol. Which of you is correct and why? There is no difference in there, neither a question. Best regards.
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Responding to a response?
That is not semantically correct.
Thank You.
Best regards.
Oh my god! How many pages do you intend to avoid answering a simple question? Let me clarify for you: 1. You, BitNow, think that Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.
2. BADecker believes that an idol is: 1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed. 2. Bible. an image of a deity other than God. the deity itself.
You can't both be correct. Either a religion can or can not worship an idol. You think it can't. BADecker thinks a religion can worship an idol. Which of you is correct and why? There is no difference in there, neither a question. There is a significant difference. I understand English might not be your first language, so I'll make it even more simple: BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?
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There is a significant difference. I understand English might not be your first language, so I'll make it even more simple:
BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?
You should believe God not men. Thank You. Best regards.
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There is a significant difference. I understand English might not be your first language, so I'll make it even more simple:
BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?
You should believe God not men. Thank You. Best regards. So, you can't or don't want to answer my question? I wonder if that's because you don't want to admit you were wrong, or don't want to upset BADecker?
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So, you don't or cant answer my question? I wonder if that's because you don't want to admit you were wrong, or don't want to upset BADecker?
I wonder why are you stick so much to people's words: I'm not a lady... are you gay? Believe God's words not mens. Best regards.
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Faith to me is knowing that whatever I do, Zeus is watching over me... One day through keen worship of the one true god ZEUS I hope to get to Valhalla.
You think Zeus is watching over you because you are wise. " Wisdom’s instruction is to fear the Lord, and humility comes before honor." - Pro 15:33 Wisdom leads to science. Do you hate Science?
Of course I dont hate science, Zeus used science to create the big bang 6 billion years ago, and he continues to use it daily for all manner of events.
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There is a significant difference. I understand English might not be your first language, so I'll make it even more simple:
BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?
You should believe God not men. Thank You. Best regards. So, you can't or don't want to answer my question? I wonder if that's because you don't want to admit you were wrong, or don't want to upset BADecker? I wonder why are you stick so much to people's words: I'm not a lady... are you gay?
Best regards.
I don't even pretend to understand that last comment, but all I'm doing it attempting to have a debate with you. All you're doing is avoiding making sense. I have to wonder why? Are you a secret atheist trying to make religious people look disingenuous?
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I thought religions were a way for trolls to get together and put normal people in baskets, tape them up and send them to Moldova? Am I wrong?
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I don't even pretend to understand that last comment, but all I'm doing it attempting to have a debate with you. All you're doing is avoiding making sense. I have to wonder why? Are you a secret atheist trying to make religious people look disingenuous?
So: you are gay, and you avoid the question when asked directly. Good to know. Me and user BADecker are saying the same thing: atheism is idolatry, what we disagree is the punishment. For me: atheism is a capital sin (punishment is death according to the Golden Calf episode Ex 32:4) For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world... And probably even more than that: we agree that atheism is a capital sin. We disagree on the application of this law: For me: we should kill them all and leave the problem aside. For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world... Thank You. Best regards.
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I don't even pretend to understand that last comment, but all I'm doing it attempting to have a debate with you. All you're doing is avoiding making sense. I have to wonder why? Are you a secret atheist trying to make religious people look disingenuous?
So: you are gay, and you avoid the question when asked directly. Good to know. So: you just resort to what you think is name-calling when you feel threatened, when I've been nothing but polite and patient with you? Good to know. Me and user BADecker are saying the same thing: atheism is idolatry, what we disagree is the punishment. For me: atheism is a capital sin (punishment is death according to the Golden Calf episode Ex 32:4) For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...
And probably even more than that: we agree that atheism is a capital sin.
We disagree on the application of this law: For me: we should kill them all and leave the problem aside. For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...
Thank You.
Best regards.
I'm not even talking about atheism. My question again: BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?
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Me and user BADecker are saying the same thing: atheism is idolatry, what we disagree is the punishment. For me: atheism is a capital sin (punishment is death according to the Golden Calf episode Ex 32:4) For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...
And probably even more than that: we agree that atheism is a capital sin.
We disagree on the application of this law: For me: we should kill them all and leave the problem aside. For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...
Thank You.
Best regards.
I'm not even talking about atheism. You are not talking about atheism: so what are you talking about? My question again: BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?
Believe regarding to what? I'm an engineer not a priest. Thank You. Best regards.
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I don't even pretend to understand that last comment, but all I'm doing it attempting to have a debate with you. All you're doing is avoiding making sense. I have to wonder why? Are you a secret atheist trying to make religious people look disingenuous?
So: you are gay, and you avoid the question when asked directly. Good to know. So: you just resort to what you think is name-calling when you feel threatened, when I've been nothing but polite and patient with you? Good to know. Me and user BADecker are saying the same thing: atheism is idolatry, what we disagree is the punishment. For me: atheism is a capital sin (punishment is death according to the Golden Calf episode Ex 32:4) For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...
And probably even more than that: we agree that atheism is a capital sin.
We disagree on the application of this law: For me: we should kill them all and leave the problem aside. For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...
Thank You.
Best regards.
I'm not even talking about atheism. You are not talking about atheism: so what are you talking about? Idolatry of course. You were the one who brought it up. If you have already forgotten, just look a few pages back. My question again: BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?
Believe regarding to what? I'm an engineer not a priest. In regard to this: BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't, and why do you think you are correct and not BADecker?
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January 15, 2016, 10:37:31 AM |
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Its not that i hate religion but some religious actions does not jive to what they suppose to be. Although there are really good people.
Sometimes i dont want to be with my religious friends because there are many restrictions to what i do what i say and others.
That's my experience.
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