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January 15, 2016, 09:23:28 AM
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BitNow, how do you respond?

Respond to what?

I and user BADecker are on the same side: side of Faith (the law of God).

I repeat my question:

Faith: does it exist without God?

As you stated previously that you are an atheist, how do you relate to yourself the word Faith?


Thank You.


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BitNow, how do you respond?

Respond to what?

The rest of the post you didn't quote. Here it is again:




BitNow, you say:

Here the word Faith means faith in the Supreme.

Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.

However I show that there are opinions - for example from BADecker - that suggest this is not correct.



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In conjunction with the above, from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/idol:
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idol
[ahyd-l]

noun
1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.
2. Bible.
    an image of a deity other than God.
    the deity itself.
3. any person or thing regarded with blind admiration, adoration, or devotion:
Madame Curie had been her childhood idol.
4. a mere image or semblance of something, visible but without substance, as a phantom.
5. a figment of the mind; fantasy.
6. a false conception or notion; fallacy.

(my bold, for emphasis)

BitNow, how do you respond?


So, BitNow, how do you respond?

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The rest of the post you didn't quote. Here it is again:




BitNow, you say:

Here the word Faith means faith in the Supreme.

Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.

However I show that there are opinions - for example from BADecker - that suggest this is not correct.



<snip>
In conjunction with the above, from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/idol:
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idol
[ahyd-l]

noun
1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.
2. Bible.
    an image of a deity other than God.
   the deity itself.
3. any person or thing regarded with blind admiration, adoration, or devotion:
Madame Curie had been her childhood idol.
4. a mere image or semblance of something, visible but without substance, as a phantom.
5. a figment of the mind; fantasy.
6. a false conception or notion; fallacy.

(my bold, for emphasis)

BitNow, how do you respond?


So, BitNow, how do you respond?

Responding to a response?

That is not semantically correct.

Thank You.


Best regards.


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January 15, 2016, 09:32:22 AM
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Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ?

Because they don't understand proper English.

What is Faith to you?


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January 15, 2016, 09:45:43 AM
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Faith to me is knowing that whatever I do, Zeus is watching over me... One day through keen worship of the one true god ZEUS I hope to get to Valhalla.

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Responding to a response?

That is not semantically correct.

Thank You.


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Oh my god! How many pages do you intend to avoid answering a simple question? Let me simplify for you:

1. You, BitNow, think that

Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.

2. BADecker believes that an idol is:

1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.
2. Bible.
    an image of a deity other than God.
   the deity itself.

You can't both be correct. Either a religion can or can not worship an idol. You think it can't. BADecker thinks a religion can worship an idol. Which of you is correct and why?

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Faith to me is knowing that whatever I do, Zeus is watching over me... One day through keen worship of the one true god ZEUS I hope to get to Valhalla.

You think Zeus is watching over you because you are wise.
"Wisdom’s instruction is to fear the Lord,
and humility comes before honor.
"
- Pro 15:33

Wisdom leads to science.

Do you hate Science?



Responding to a response?

That is not semantically correct.

Thank You.


Best regards.

Oh my god! How many pages do you intend to avoid answering a simple question? Let me clarify for you:

1. You, BitNow, think that

Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.

2. BADecker believes that an idol is:

1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.
2. Bible.
    an image of a deity other than God.
   the deity itself.

You can't both be correct. Either a religion can or can not worship an idol. You think it can't. BADecker thinks a religion can worship an idol. Which of you is correct and why?


There is no difference in there, neither a question.


Best regards.


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January 15, 2016, 09:53:01 AM
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Responding to a response?

That is not semantically correct.

Thank You.


Best regards.

Oh my god! How many pages do you intend to avoid answering a simple question? Let me clarify for you:

1. You, BitNow, think that

Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.

2. BADecker believes that an idol is:

1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.
2. Bible.
    an image of a deity other than God.
   the deity itself.

You can't both be correct. Either a religion can or can not worship an idol. You think it can't. BADecker thinks a religion can worship an idol. Which of you is correct and why?


There is no difference in there, neither a question.


There is a significant difference. I understand English might not be your first language, so I'll make it even more simple:

BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?

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There is a significant difference. I understand English might not be your first language, so I'll make it even more simple:

BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?

You should believe God not men.

Thank You.


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There is a significant difference. I understand English might not be your first language, so I'll make it even more simple:

BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?

You should believe God not men.

Thank You.


Best regards.

So, you can't or don't want to answer my question? I wonder if that's because you don't want to admit you were wrong, or don't want to upset BADecker?

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So, you don't or cant answer my question? I wonder if that's because you don't want to admit you were wrong, or don't want to upset BADecker?

I wonder why are you stick so much to people's words: I'm not a lady... are you gay?

Believe God's words not mens.


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Faith to me is knowing that whatever I do, Zeus is watching over me... One day through keen worship of the one true god ZEUS I hope to get to Valhalla.

You think Zeus is watching over you because you are wise.
"Wisdom’s instruction is to fear the Lord,
and humility comes before honor.
"
- Pro 15:33

Wisdom leads to science.

Do you hate Science?



Of course I dont hate science, Zeus used science to create the big bang 6 billion years ago, and he continues to use it daily for all manner of events.

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There is a significant difference. I understand English might not be your first language, so I'll make it even more simple:

BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?

You should believe God not men.

Thank You.


Best regards.

So, you can't or don't want to answer my question? I wonder if that's because you don't want to admit you were wrong, or don't want to upset BADecker?


I wonder why are you stick so much to people's words: I'm not a lady... are you gay?

Best regards.

I don't even pretend to understand that last comment, but all I'm doing it attempting to have a debate with you. All you're doing is avoiding making sense. I have to wonder why? Are you a secret atheist trying to make religious people look disingenuous?




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January 15, 2016, 10:04:02 AM
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I thought religions were a way for trolls to get together and put normal people in baskets, tape them up and send them to Moldova?  Am I wrong?

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I don't even pretend to understand that last comment, but all I'm doing it attempting to have a debate with you. All you're doing is avoiding making sense. I have to wonder why? Are you a secret atheist trying to make religious people look disingenuous?


So: you are gay, and you avoid the question when asked directly. Good to know.

Me and user BADecker are saying the same thing: atheism is idolatry, what we disagree is the punishment.
For me: atheism is a capital sin (punishment is death according to the Golden Calf episode Ex 32:4)
For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

And probably even more than that: we agree that atheism is a capital sin.

We disagree on the application of this law:
For me: we should kill them all and leave the problem aside.
For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

Thank You.


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January 15, 2016, 10:17:51 AM
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I don't even pretend to understand that last comment, but all I'm doing it attempting to have a debate with you. All you're doing is avoiding making sense. I have to wonder why? Are you a secret atheist trying to make religious people look disingenuous?


So: you are gay, and you avoid the question when asked directly. Good to know.

So: you just resort to what you think is name-calling when you feel threatened, when I've been nothing but polite and patient with you? Good to know.

Me and user BADecker are saying the same thing: atheism is idolatry, what we disagree is the punishment.
For me: atheism is a capital sin (punishment is death according to the Golden Calf episode Ex 32:4)
For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

And probably even more than that: we agree that atheism is a capital sin.

We disagree on the application of this law:
For me: we should kill them all and leave the problem aside.
For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

Thank You.


Best regards.


I'm not even talking about atheism.

My question again: BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?

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Me and user BADecker are saying the same thing: atheism is idolatry, what we disagree is the punishment.
For me: atheism is a capital sin (punishment is death according to the Golden Calf episode Ex 32:4)
For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

And probably even more than that: we agree that atheism is a capital sin.

We disagree on the application of this law:
For me: we should kill them all and leave the problem aside.
For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

Thank You.


Best regards.


I'm not even talking about atheism.

You are not talking about atheism: so what are you talking about?

My question again: BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?


Believe regarding to what?

I'm an engineer not a priest.

Thank You.


Best regards.


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I don't even pretend to understand that last comment, but all I'm doing it attempting to have a debate with you. All you're doing is avoiding making sense. I have to wonder why? Are you a secret atheist trying to make religious people look disingenuous?



So: you are gay, and you avoid the question when asked directly. Good to know.

So: you just resort to what you think is name-calling when you feel threatened, when I've been nothing but polite and patient with you? Good to know.

Me and user BADecker are saying the same thing: atheism is idolatry, what we disagree is the punishment.
For me: atheism is a capital sin (punishment is death according to the Golden Calf episode Ex 32:4)
For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

And probably even more than that: we agree that atheism is a capital sin.

We disagree on the application of this law:
For me: we should kill them all and leave the problem aside.
For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

Thank You.


Best regards.


I'm not even talking about atheism.

You are not talking about atheism: so what are you talking about?

Idolatry of course. You were the one who brought it up. If you have already forgotten, just look a few pages back.

My question again: BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?


Believe regarding to what?

I'm an engineer not a priest.


In regard to this: BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't, and why do you think you are correct and not BADecker?


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January 15, 2016, 10:37:31 AM
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Its not that i hate religion but some religious actions does not jive to what they suppose to be. Although there are really good people.

Sometimes i dont want to be with my religious friends because there are many restrictions to what i do what i say and others.

That's my experience.
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