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1401  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: January 27, 2014, 07:16:04 PM
Are you guys still going to offer more hash to your customers, as you discussed from day 1, to make sure they profit?

Was this a promise?  I must have missed this somewhere as to my knowledge they have not offered any sort of guarantee.  If you have a link to where this is discussed could you please share it?

I know they offer this:

Quote
All pre-orders are guaranteed to be protected against any price decrease. If at any time, during the pre-order period, we drop the price under what you have already paid, you will be compensated by receiving more X-3 mining machines.

Edit:

Oops... you beat me to it, I took wayyyy too long to click 'submit'  Smiley

Yeah that's what I'm referring to. Myself along with some others, at the very very very beginning, discussed this when we were talking about resales and becoming a US retailer. It was explained that, as that last quote said, it meant literally that you would receive additional hashpower at no cost, if you would not make a profit over your investment based in USD. For first time buyers, I believe it was like $240 for an X1.

They are relying on BTC value increasing so that in 45 days time (the window they gave us), you would get more than $240 back.

Just curious if this was still the case.
1402  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][POT] PotCoin Launches Today 01/21 @ 4:20 on: January 27, 2014, 07:11:39 PM
Potcoin for sale: 0.000045BTC rate. Any takers?

Positive references available, no dodgy busines here. 

ny2cafuse can vouche for me.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=419647.0;topicseen

Thanks
1403  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][POT] PotCoin Launches Today 01/21 @ 4:20 on: January 27, 2014, 07:05:34 PM
Potcoin for sale: 0.000045BTC rate. Any takers?

Positive references available, no dodgy busines here. 

ny2cafuse can vouche for me.
1404  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: January 27, 2014, 07:01:21 PM
Are you guys still going to offer more hash to your customers, as you discussed from day 1, to make sure they profit?
1405  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: STAR COIN [STR] - The coin with bonus STAR blocks on: January 27, 2014, 06:38:38 PM

You can deposit and withdraw STR because it was previously listed on Cryptsy. But you can't trade.

Which is why he still owes me 100BTC. Not that he likely even held that much to begin with.

Rather, maybe he should send me all of his STR? Wink
1406  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][POT] PotCoin Launches Today 01/21 @ 4:20 on: January 27, 2014, 06:29:01 PM
Potcoin for sale: 0.000045BTC rate. Any takers?

Positive references available, no dodgy busines here.
1407  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: January 27, 2014, 06:23:07 PM
Upgrade modules will still piss people off, which rigs will they be compatible with? The past ones were Nov only weren't they?
This is the main reason I went with KNC, the modular design that could be upgraded. Turned out that was shite. Never got the chance.

This is also one of the primary attractants for me as well. They were still listing their products, including the Neptune, as modular designs with full upgrade capability, up until recently when I pointed out that they were advertising as modular despite not selling any modules.

They took that off pretty quick once it was pointed out ...

Legally speaking, the first 2 batches of Neptunes were sold under the guise of upgradability via modules. SOO..........
1408  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: January 27, 2014, 04:37:54 PM
total bullshit.. no wonder you got scammed on satoshi dice

for what it's worth, i've won more than i've lost on satoshi dice. I wasn't the idiot who lost 50BTC in one day on satoshi. I also don't lose in casinos. I'm also not popular at them because of that reason. But damn if the drinks and food aren't worth it.

they said they have to do a board redesign to try for 2Th.. any firmware changes is just tinkering

Board redesign and firmware, and they said they would take care of their customers. It still doesn't matter considering they're days away from shipping a more powerful chip than KNC.

they are much farther away than 15%.. and where has one run stable for even an hour?

85% of 2th is 1.7th. They have the system running between 1.6 and 1.7. Considering most ASIC equipment has a 10-15% variance between design and production, this is acceptable. Especially considering 1.7TH the first half of February is worth more than 2TH the last half of February. Time to market.

all boxed up before UL testing? sure

You can put the stickers on the boxes before it's certified, provided they're not shipped.

Regardless of the nuances of this discussion, KNC has failed to uphold its protection commitment to its customers. They've had 45 days to do it, and are still dragging their feet.

THAT is the point I'm making.
1409  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Alpha Technology Litecoin (Scrypt) ASIC Miner Development on: January 27, 2014, 04:00:01 PM
If by the time they arrive the difficulty deosn't match the rewards I'll go and mine another scrypt coin....

Guy after my own heart. Run it till the wheels fall off.. then push it further down the road.

1410  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: January 27, 2014, 03:56:32 PM
Whether you wager .01btc or 50btc, it's still a wager, not a guaranteed payout. If you lose, you lose. Period.

With that being said, I've been tracking satoshidice for awhile, and what I can say is I find some of their stats to be 'curious', for lack of wanting to use a more controversial word. They're also not responding to inquiries related to certain betting addresses 'suddenly going offline' and then eventually coming back online, with the bet history missing, and the betters 'losing'. Happening more so with the higher-payout addresses than any others. They also reduced their payouts on the high-roller bets.

I stopped playing satoshidice once I noticed this pattern of downtime/losses. My gut tells me something is going on.

Back on topic, would be great if KNC had offered to do something like sell modules at the least. Competition has been shipping for 45 days now, and private BTC pools are growing from it. I had held BTC specifically for KNC order, but I can't hold any longer, and have used it elsewhere.

Cointerra is 3 days into their first couple batches running on their production lines, with the miners being boxed up and ready for shipment. They're only awaiting FCC/CE final approval, which should arrive this week. They're within 15% of their target hashgoal and power usage, and have said with some firmware updates they expect to reach original batch 1 target, and will be helping their batch 1 customers out.

KNC has fully dropped the ball on protecting their first 2 batch customers via their NPS. I guess there's a little BFL-ball-dropping in every startup company these days.
1411  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TAG] TAGMining.Com- Try your chance at our weekly jackpot! on: January 27, 2014, 02:05:55 PM
@vesperwillow, do you have all your rigs at temp target 65?  Mine seem to randomly reboot after a few days when I have them under 70... they seem more stable at 75 target.  To protect from heat soaking the cards, I have the overtemp set at 83.  The fans also run about 10% slower at 75 than 70.

I think some of my rigs have it set to like 60 and some don't specify it at all, but all the rigs have the fans set to 100 I believe--I run aftermarket coolers on almost every card, so my situation may be different. In a thread on litecoinforum somewhere, I noted that there seemed to be a relationship between temperature and increased rejects on the tahiti cards. I'm sure it's plausible to see all sorts of varying results based on temperature.

I really need to research and understand more about how scrypt works to better understand the relationship between TC, core clock, and mem clock.  I've been using TC 21712 with the optimized bin, mem 1600 and core up to 1105... somehow I found a ratio of .69 being optimal for my 6x7950 rig with the cards averaging 665 kh and efficiency of about 2.6 kh/w... now, is that ratio ideal because of the TC I am using?  or the cards?  I'd love to eek out more efficiency over more hashes but without sacrificing overall hashrate.  

Almost all the brands use the same chip and PCB layout, with some minor differences. My MSI 7950's performed better than my Sapphire, even with the same settings. I've found that sometimes underclocking the engine will give more performance, especially if it seems performance degrades with overclocking. Just have to toy with it sometimes. A good example would be ASUS 270X cards. I've got 3 or 4 brands of 270X cards, and all of them work like a champ on the same settings, except the ASUS. If I underclock the engine on that brand, then it springs to life. It's weird.

Also it's nice to be able to monitor wattage usage at the wall, because if you see wattage increasing but your hashrate isn't, then you know you're going wrong with the settings.

Sucks about your hardware Sad  Wishing you a quick turnaround on repairs.

Thanks. Definitely didn't want to spend what little BTC I had left on repairs.. ugh.
1412  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Alpha Technology Litecoin (Scrypt) ASIC Miner Development on: January 27, 2014, 01:55:21 PM
these actually cost 2x what a GPU rig would cost.

How do you work that out ? 25 x r9 290's cost almot 10k and that's assumign you can run them at 1mh/s each.


Because you don't need R9's to reach 25mh, there are more cost effective ways. I'm almost at 25mh and I'm not at 10k/usd. And I don't think you're examining the full price of these units in USD. Depending on the unit, these are 1.5-2x similar GPU units, but the biggest benefit is the cut in wattage.
1413  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Alpha Technology Litecoin (Scrypt) ASIC Miner Development on: January 27, 2014, 01:46:14 PM
problem is with these asic is that if everything crypto goes bad, your asic miner has no resale value! 5k down the drain

the equivilent cost of building a 25mh/s gpu rig is twice the price, but, you can actually sell your rigs when your finished, so in the end you've technically payed the same for the gpu rig which can be used for many more years than an obsolete asic miner.

just a thought

these actually cost 2x what a GPU rig would cost.
1414  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: Organizing a group buy for 50+ BFL 600 GH/s Monarch ASIC cards on: January 27, 2014, 01:37:22 PM
Hi, guys...

Butterfly Labs. The Monarch BPU 600C. 600 Gh/S Bitcoin Mining Card
Someone has already received and is using a card that?

Tnks.

The card is not released yet. First shippments are expected in early February. New orders are likely to ship in April, according to BFL.

Haha.. I remember reading on a forum (from Josh I think, but perhaps someone else) that shipments were guaranteed to be out the door in mid-late January.

Already slipping. More. Although original ship date was March I believe, but they had been saying earlier until now.
1415  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Alpha Technology Litecoin (Scrypt) ASIC Miner Development on: January 27, 2014, 01:31:46 PM
With the level of efficiency they claim, I would imagine it not to be too loud, especially consdering some of the competing equipment I've seen lately which was passively cooled without issue.

I do like silence though, my 2.5mh rigs are around 19db, which is nearly silent.
1416  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TAG] TAGMining.Com- Try your chance at our weekly jackpot! on: January 27, 2014, 01:22:37 PM
So this weekend has just been the pits for me for mining hardware. I lose one motherboard with no spares on hand, and it'll be all week before I get another one. So there goes 2.5Mh. Then lastnight prior to bed, I smell some electric burning in the air. It's coming from the new MSI 270 rig. Not sure if it's the PSU, any of the GPUs, the USB risers or the motherboard, but after rebooting it, only 2 cards are being recognized. So there goes another 1.5mh. I'm down 4mh Roll Eyes

C'est la vie.
1417  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TAG] TAGMining.Com- Try your chance at our weekly jackpot! on: January 27, 2014, 01:19:54 PM
-I 20 -w 256 --thread-concurrency 40960 --gpu-engine 1100 --gpu-memclock 1500 --target-temp 65

You guys see anywhere you think I could grab a few more hashes? Any attemp at using -g resulted in a crash.

using sgminer btw  Cheesy

If you want to push the card halfway over the cliff's egde, try these:

-I 20 -w 256 --thread-concurrency 24000 --gpu-engine 1130 --gpu-memclock 1250 --target-temp 65

I dunno if this will work for the windows version of cgminer but you could try this out, for 20-30kh more:

* Grab this file: http://goatpc.com/scrypt130511Tahitiglg2tc24000w256l4.bin
* Put it in the cgminer folder where the other .bin files are. If you get a warning that you're going to overwrite a file, that's fine--this replaces it.

Those 2 things combined usually result in 700-710kh from Tahiti 7950's.
1418  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TAG] TAGMining.Com- Try your chance at our weekly jackpot! on: January 27, 2014, 01:52:43 AM
Chicken, yeah I stack them into tall racks of hash and warmth. Hehe. Aluminum sounds diesel! Mine isn't diesel, but I'd say it's about $10-$15 in material per rig, the majority of it being the PVC fittings.
1419  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TAG] TAGMining.Com- Try your chance at our weekly jackpot! on: January 26, 2014, 11:49:11 PM
If there was one 270 card I could get to replace my other 270's with, it would probably be the MSI 270.

Anyone wanna trade cards? Haha. I love the stability, and how easy it is to get high hash out of them. I'm going to see if I can source more and sell off my other 270's.
1420  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TagCoin - The World's First Rewards Coin - Mandatory update to v 1.3 on: January 26, 2014, 11:42:45 PM
People forget bitcoin forked several times, and the fixes weren't immediate either. Folks were mining it still, some were buying it when it was like $1, some folks bought when a bitcoin was worth pennies.

And look at the value of bitcoin now ...

Coins worth mining have solid backing and longterm goals. An example is Bitcoin, Tagcoin, Litecoin. Coins NOT worth mining are gimmick coins.. I won't badmouth any of those here, but it'll be obvious to most to see the difference between a gimmick and something with business/investor-backing.
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