Publically posting PMs is a dick move, especially when you do so to force him into a conversation. It has nothing to do with virtue signalling since I honestly don't care what the "DT mob" thinks of me.
I am not going to exclude Suchmoon for something he/she did over 3 years ago. Unlike some people here I don't dig into peoples past, desperately hoping to find something I can bring up. I would exclude him/her if he/she posted it recently. It might sound strange but some people actually change their behaviour when they grow older, which is exactly why I am open to revising my trust ratings/exclusions after a while. You should try it. Whatever excuse you can work out to justify your retaliatory punitive behavior right? One standard for me and another standard for thee. Yes, I am sure you don't care, which just so happens to be why you have pretty much everyone who excludes me on your trust list. Complete coincidence I am sure, clearly no one cares what people on their trust list think. No, you don't go around digging up people's past, you just support those that do. What should I try? I don't go around policing Bitcointalk like some kind of rent a cop like you and most of your trust list do. All I am doing is pointing out your hypocrisy and selective punitive punishment for the well deserved criticism of your butt buddies. I am not forcing Hhampuz to do anything, just exposing how he privately shows one face and then publicly tries to pretend as if I was harassing him which is why he JUST HAD TO exclude and block me. Distrusted by:
Vod
Foxpup
TMAN
Lauda
yogg
TheNewAnon135246
EcuaMobi
suchmoon
owlcatz
nutildah
LFC_Bitcoin
The Pharmacist
Hhampuz
Half =/= pretty much everyone. Stop making so many assumptions, you're starting to sound like QS. |
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I usually use UPS Overnight shipping for valuable items. Never had any issues with deliveries so far.
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With the given situation you are in the red tag Lauda gave to you is justifiable, your account is obviously created to complain about the DT system and it's probably you are one of the members who got tagged by a DT member one way or another. Based from what I have seen DT members are more lenient and understanding to high ranking members or at least the trustworthy ones since they have the balls to complain about it in their own account unlike you who just created an alt account to cover your identity. Keep in mind you are tagged because you are using an alt account that is trolling in the forum and not because you are standing up against them. You aren't even really standing up because you are just hiding in your alt account.
Is that so? Maybe some one should tell that to the 13 cult members excluding me because they don't like my criticism of their pals. I am sure the long list of people on the list no one has ever heard of are far more trustworthy. My crimes are too numerous to count after all. I can't speak for the other 12 cult members but I excluded you after you publically posted a PM between you and Hhampuz. I don't exclude people if I disagree with them or just because I think that they are assholes. I see, so the fact that I posted that message is more of a problem than his duplicity and inability to have a conversation like an adult. Got it. You know what would have prevented that? Him willing to have a conversation about it, instead he chose to hide like a coward rather than explain himself. The message had nothing exceptional in it other than a demonstration of his duplicitous behavior, this is just a pathetic excuse for you to virtue signal to the DT mob. There is no presumption of privacy with personal messages. If this is your standard you should exclude Suchmoon too. I am sure I could find plenty of other examples of people on your trust list that have shared PMs as well, but oh that's right you people only apply these standards to others when it serves your bias. This is just a woefully pathetic pretext for retaliation. Publically posting PMs is a dick move, especially when you do so to force him into a conversation. It has nothing to do with virtue signalling since I honestly don't care what the "DT mob" thinks of me. I am not going to exclude Suchmoon for something he/she did over 3 years ago. Unlike some people here I don't dig into peoples past, desperately hoping to find something I can bring up. I would exclude him/her if he/she posted it recently. It might sound strange but some people actually change their behaviour when they grow older, which is exactly why I am open to revising my trust ratings/exclusions after a while. You should try it. |
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With the given situation you are in the red tag Lauda gave to you is justifiable, your account is obviously created to complain about the DT system and it's probably you are one of the members who got tagged by a DT member one way or another. Based from what I have seen DT members are more lenient and understanding to high ranking members or at least the trustworthy ones since they have the balls to complain about it in their own account unlike you who just created an alt account to cover your identity. Keep in mind you are tagged because you are using an alt account that is trolling in the forum and not because you are standing up against them. You aren't even really standing up because you are just hiding in your alt account.
Is that so? Maybe some one should tell that to the 13 cult members excluding me because they don't like my criticism of their pals. I am sure the long list of people on the list no one has ever heard of are far more trustworthy. My crimes are too numerous to count after all. I can't speak for the other 12 cult members but I excluded you after you publically posted a PM between you and Hhampuz. I don't exclude people if I disagree with them or just because I think that they are assholes. |
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If this was Medium I'd give you 50 claps and then log on to a different account just so I could give you 50 more!
Did you just admit to wanting to make alt accounts so you can give people more internet points? Wait until QS hears about this! |
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I don't think trolls like you should be tagged for spreading falsehoods, but that's just my opinion.
Same here, I just exclude them in my trust list. I understand why some DT members do so (same for tagging alt accounts). There are currently ~80 DT members and only a hand full are being considered as part of "the gang". Those few members could easily be excluded (including Lauda) if they were actually acting maliciously like all these sad trolls are claiming. The way I see it that Theymos has created a decentralized trust system which will continue to grow with all the new inclusions. Perhaps these bad actors should stop complaining and try to contribute instead. |
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If he wants to give some other explanation, he is welcome to do so. I reserved a post under the OP for his response so it will be prominent.
Why would he want to give an explanation? Do you really think that whatever happened(Bestmxixer instructions or not), he'd want the Dutch government hound dogs to catch a whiff of the trail?  You've already done a crackerjack for them for free by pointing the way for them.  Because as it stands now, he is being accused of embezzling money that belongs to BestMixer. It is my belief the available evidence points to this being true. I would also find it unlikely the Dutch government is not already aware of the situation. I don't think they would seize the BestMixer servers and just go home and call it a day. I don't think he's obligated to answer to you. What authority do you have over him? When the government is sniffing around, I think the best policy is to keep quiet or let a lawyer do all of the talking. It certainly isn't prudent to spill the beans on the open forum just to resolve this accusation. What's the worst that can happen to him if he doesn't answer to you? Some dt members actually give your accusation credence and red tag him? BFD. I doubt any government would waste time or resources investigating a signature campaign on a forum. They are after the funds that have been mixed (and the people mixing them). |
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Based on the above, I believe that Hhampuz has stolen the excess money from the BestMixer campaign for his own personal use. That's quite a leap. You've offered no proof the funds have not been returned BestMixer, or that that Hhampuz sent them to his own personal wallet. You don't know where the money ended up, and apparently that's by design. BestMixer hired to Hhampuz to escrow their funds, and even if he still has the funds in his possession, that's not a scam, he's doing what he was hired to do. This whole thread is based on a lot of speculation and wishful thinking. The money very clearly was moved, that cannot be disputed. I explained in the OP how I know Hhampuz did not receive instructions on how to return the money after he ended the campaign. The theory that Hhampuz moved the money to his own hidden address unknown to anyone and therefore is not stealing is quite the leap. The action of moving the money through a mixer is evidence his intention is to keep the money for himself. There is no reason they would want him to do this. More assumptions. How can you tell for sure that such instructions weren't provided when they hired him? I can imagine that mixer operators think ahead. If that is what happened, Hhampuz can respond to this thread and show evidence of that. Why would he waste his time to reply to this obvious grasp for attention and give you what you want? The evidence points to him embezzling money.... Further, deposit addresses for ChipMixer are only good for a maximum of 14 days, it would not be possible for Hhampuz to receive instructions to send the excess money to a ChipMixer deposit address when the campaign started, because the campaign lasted longer than that. What evidence? You can read the OP. Your prior support for extortionists doesn’t give me confidence you are acting in good faith. Like I said, what evidence? Funds have moved but you have no insight in (prior) communications between Hhampuz and the people behind Bestmixer. You are just firing shots in the dark, same with the whole Zeroxal thing. Bring hard evidence, not assumptions. |
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Based on the above, I believe that Hhampuz has stolen the excess money from the BestMixer campaign for his own personal use. That's quite a leap. You've offered no proof the funds have not been returned BestMixer, or that that Hhampuz sent them to his own personal wallet. You don't know where the money ended up, and apparently that's by design. BestMixer hired to Hhampuz to escrow their funds, and even if he still has the funds in his possession, that's not a scam, he's doing what he was hired to do. This whole thread is based on a lot of speculation and wishful thinking. The money very clearly was moved, that cannot be disputed. I explained in the OP how I know Hhampuz did not receive instructions on how to return the money after he ended the campaign. The theory that Hhampuz moved the money to his own hidden address unknown to anyone and therefore is not stealing is quite the leap. The action of moving the money through a mixer is evidence his intention is to keep the money for himself. There is no reason they would want him to do this. More assumptions. How can you tell for sure that such instructions weren't provided when they hired him? I can imagine that mixer operators think ahead. If that is what happened, Hhampuz can respond to this thread and show evidence of that. Why would he waste his time to reply to this obvious grasp for attention and give you what you want? The evidence points to him embezzling money.... Further, deposit addresses for ChipMixer are only good for a maximum of 14 days, it would not be possible for Hhampuz to receive instructions to send the excess money to a ChipMixer deposit address when the campaign started, because the campaign lasted longer than that. What evidence? |
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Based on the above, I believe that Hhampuz has stolen the excess money from the BestMixer campaign for his own personal use. That's quite a leap. You've offered no proof the funds have not been returned BestMixer, or that that Hhampuz sent them to his own personal wallet. You don't know where the money ended up, and apparently that's by design. BestMixer hired to Hhampuz to escrow their funds, and even if he still has the funds in his possession, that's not a scam, he's doing what he was hired to do. This whole thread is based on a lot of speculation and wishful thinking. The money very clearly was moved, that cannot be disputed. I explained in the OP how I know Hhampuz did not receive instructions on how to return the money after he ended the campaign. The theory that Hhampuz moved the money to his own hidden address unknown to anyone and therefore is not stealing is quite the leap. The action of moving the money through a mixer is evidence his intention is to keep the money for himself. There is no reason they would want him to do this. More assumptions. How can you tell for sure that such instructions weren't provided when they hired him? I can imagine that mixer operators think ahead. If that is what happened, Hhampuz can respond to this thread and show evidence of that. Why would he waste his time to reply to this obvious grasp for attention and give you what you want? |
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Based on the above, I believe that Hhampuz has stolen the excess money from the BestMixer campaign for his own personal use. That's quite a leap. You've offered no proof the funds have not been returned BestMixer, or that that Hhampuz sent them to his own personal wallet. You don't know where the money ended up, and apparently that's by design. BestMixer hired to Hhampuz to escrow their funds, and even if he still has the funds in his possession, that's not a scam, he's doing what he was hired to do. This whole thread is based on a lot of speculation and wishful thinking. The money very clearly was moved, that cannot be disputed. I explained in the OP how I know Hhampuz did not receive instructions on how to return the money after he ended the campaign. The theory that Hhampuz moved the money to his own hidden address unknown to anyone and therefore is not stealing is quite the leap. The action of moving the money through a mixer is evidence his intention is to keep the money for himself. There is no reason they would want him to do this. More assumptions. How can you tell for sure that such instructions weren't provided when they hired him? I can imagine that mixer operators think ahead. |
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And yet another thread filled with nothing but assumptions. Nobody has been arrested so they are perfectly capable of contacting Hhampuz.
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Don't you think it's time to stop bumping/locking this 2 year old thread? They have admitted to whatever you accused them off (while having different intentions than you claim), Zeroxal considered the whole thing resolved 2 years ago and you still bring it to attention in pretty much every topic you post in. This thread serves no purpose anymore.
1- this thread has never been locked 2- everyone involved has denied extorting anyone and claims they were engaging in a sting operation, which doesn’t make sense 3- this thread serves as a warning to anyone considering doing business with anyone involved 4- zeroaxl was threatened with continued harassment, of course he doesn’t want to pursue the matter, the consequences for him would be very bad if he did. 1. I meant stop bumping and time to lock it. 2. As I said, different intentions than you claim. Their PGP signed message stated their intentions, which was confirmed by Zeroxal. 3. Lol. 4. Source? What they did would in no way show evidence of wrongdoing if he paid the extortion and someone not paying taxes is not an excuse to extort money from them. That's just your biased assumption. FYI, there was no signed message, there was an encrypted message that no one except lauda could decrypt that detailed his plan. Assumptions =/= facts. @LFC_Bitcoin: Don't be pissed off. Just point and laugh at that salty basement dweller. |
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Don't you think it's time to stop bumping/locking this 2 year old thread? They have admitted to whatever you accused them off (while having different intentions than you claim), Zeroxal considered the whole thing resolved 2 years ago and you still bring it to attention in pretty much every topic you post in. This thread serves no purpose anymore.
1- this thread has never been locked 2- everyone involved has denied extorting anyone and claims they were engaging in a sting operation, which doesn’t make sense 3- this thread serves as a warning to anyone considering doing business with anyone involved 4- zeroaxl was threatened with continued harassment, of course he doesn’t want to pursue the matter, the consequences for him would be very bad if he did. 1. I meant stop bumping and time to lock it. 2. As I said, different intentions than you claim. Their PGP signed message stated their intentions, which was confirmed by Zeroxal. 3. Lol. 4. Source? What they did would in no way show evidence of wrongdoing if he paid the extortion and someone not paying taxes is not an excuse to extort money from them. That's just your biased assumption. |
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Don't you think it's time to stop bumping/locking this 2 year old thread? They have admitted to whatever you accused them off (while having different intentions than you claim), Zeroxal considered the whole thing resolved 2 years ago and you still bring it to attention in pretty much every topic you post in. This thread serves no purpose anymore.
1- this thread has never been locked 2- everyone involved has denied extorting anyone and claims they were engaging in a sting operation, which doesn’t make sense 3- this thread serves as a warning to anyone considering doing business with anyone involved 4- zeroaxl was threatened with continued harassment, of course he doesn’t want to pursue the matter, the consequences for him would be very bad if he did. 1. I meant stop bumping and time to lock it. 2. As I said, different intentions than you claim. Their PGP signed message stated their intentions, which was confirmed by Zeroxal. 3. Lol. 4. Source? |
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Your post was obviously off topic since it had no relevance to the topic itself. DT has nothing to do with this.
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Don't you think it's time to stop bumping/locking this 2 year old thread? They have admitted to whatever you accused them off (while having different intentions than you claim), Zeroxal considered the whole thing resolved 2 years ago and you still bring it to attention in pretty much every topic you post in. This thread serves no purpose anymore.
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This does not even consider the fact that minerjones has advertised (I am not sure why this thread is in the trashcan, I don't think it should be there) for an obvious ponzi OG has escrowed for an obvious ponzi, what is your point? EDIT: QS, you should really stop applying double standards when it comes to your unfounded accusations. I would like to add I think that OG has done a good job as a forum escrow and I believe that he will continue to do so. |
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So to summarize this topic; you make off-topic posts, moderators delete them and it is somehow DT's mastermind plan?
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