Why not control their belief system with fear based double-speak and fallacious arguments that reinforce those fears? Write a vitriolic book, wear a scary uniform, or just repeat yourself with INCREASING VOLUME and maybe you will find other weak minded people to follow you. It worked for Hitler, Ayn Rand, and every other powerful person spewing really bad ideas.
What if you had really good ideas? Would it work even better, or backfire? Well, it depends on what you consider good. Niccolò Machiavelli, Sun Tzu, Dale Carnegie, Karl Marx, and other philosophers wrote some useful books that did not denigrate races or classes of people. It's fine to criticize ideas if you have good arguments, but power does not have to be used to force people how to think. That's probably why nobody has developed any single way to live our lives. I think it's degenerative to individuals to group them into collectivist groups that are incapable of thoughts and feelings such as races and classes. Human evolution is literally built on our ability to work together for survival or a greater good Post-humanism is so much more interesting... It's built on the ability to overcome our humanity in order to become something much more. I'm pretty sure that when ideas like this are entertained it is either labeled as Social Darwinism or Eugenics. |
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How many guesses do I have?
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is this really you? Doing this with glow sticks? its not like computer generated? In that case I will gladly hire you to do this song: "THE DEVIL GLITCH" by Chris Butler http://www.nutscape.com/ChrisButler/guinness.htmIt's 69 mins long and has 500 verses.. Well worth 2.5 BTC ! It's really him, I can tell from the shadows and seeing many silhouettes in my day |
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What order are the future features listed in? I would certainly love cash deposits ASAP. I think cash deposits at banks will be very important to the growth of bitcoin and bitcoin exchanges.
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Hire a lawyer to set up a US corporation, then have someone who is physically in the US be an official representative of that corporation and open a bank account for it? Probably not what you were looking for.
Would it have to be a corporation? Wouldn't something like and LLC be easier? |
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this sale belongs completely to neither of us.
Isn't that an oxymoron? |
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So, you bought the domain, and are now auctioning it off? Or will Jonathan Ryan Owens be getting a share of profits from auction?
While this is a much more attractive auction, I am not sure if I will be able to bid.
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@Tawsix
Fuck you! You're practically saying that the only way investors get proof of what you put into SIN is if you guarantee that we get nothing!
This is the kind of shit your character shows that you're capable of! Don't expect us to take this quietly.
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boonies4u, you could, but such an arrangement would probably be temporary. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, but given the confusion and lack of clarity on the OP, I will be unable to pay for my bid if I am not outbid. If you wish for this auction to succeed, I'd advise that you advertise this auction more. |
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I got hacked is the first sub-link for me, dunno what you're seeing without a screenshot I posted that on purpose, JeffK. I agree with the sentiment that each person would get a different result because of Google's algorithm. Curious, though, what would the results be if you had a brand new computer or, at the very least, search without logging into Google via a freshly installed browser you haven't used in the past. Wouldn't Ctrl+Shift+P in Mozilla do the job? AFAIK, Google searches are personalized based on your Web history if you are signed in, and on cookies in case you are not signed in. Search results today are affected by IP only regionally, and not personally. I'm signed in to my google account when I use it, so I'm pretty sure it personalizes me at that level, not only by cookies. |
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I'd like to point out that there is no guarantee that anyone in this thread is or ever was an investor and that they could be just causing a ruckus so they can get a bunch of computers for basically nothing. I've already told you a way to start a private discussion with shareholders. If you want to have a discussion with shareholders, please start a private discussion. There are ways for us to prove the existence of our shares, but if you don't need us to prove that we have shares, you're just going to have to deal with discussions with the public. This is my first time hearing this. Do you have any proof of you contracting these people?
"Enlisted the help of" would probably be a better term to use than contracted, in retrospect. However, somewhere earlier in the thread I was asked if I had access to people who knew how to do the electrical work that was required, as well as the networking etc., that could help me and I said that I did. You should have put in a clause covering remuneration.
This isn't some sort of underhanded deal to make money off of SIN, this was what I thought was a better option to help the company without sending a bill to the company and cutting into profits and growth, in addition to reinvesting my dividends. However, if this is not an acceptable way of remuneration (trading shares of the company for my resources) I would be more than happy to write up a bill for the company, as would those who helped. Everyone who invested was profiting off of the labor and resources provided at no charge to this company. Every dividend that got paid out was due to this. It is not without precedent to pay people for providing services for the company. I never said it was an underhanded deal, I'm just saying you did not write up the contract well. We are going to need much more documentation (see below) if you want us to give you any remuneration.[/color]
I will provide such documentation in a motion later for shareholders to peruse. We should have received this documentation before having a motion whether or not to liquidate. Currently the only evidence that this wasn't/isn't a ponzi scheme or scam were the stats coming from the pool. If you can supply the documentation and evidence (proof if you have it) - of every piece of hardware bought and/or used. (receipts, pictures, etc.)
- of every hour you put into maintaining and setting up the rigs. (I want to see the original document or log you used to record your hours)
I would not have a problem giving you the remuneration to cover owning half of SIN. (if the math is close enough) |
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All I ask is that you keep trusting me and look through the few disgruntled INVESTORS who loudly throw accusations around.
*cough* shakaru *cough* Fixed. Isn't shakaru an investor? He acts like he is the most invested. I was just putting it into perspective that they aren't just disgruntled "people", they are disgruntled investors! There are only so many people even taking a part of this discussion. Also, edited my post. |
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$15837.93 is the amount of money that was raised by the company from the IPO.
I have paid back 202.7945 BTC back into the company for a value of $3411.58 through reinvestment of dividends
I put 30 BTC of my own from my time solo mining into the company at the beginning (when BTC was at around $7.50, so about $225 from that)
I provided a building (with insurance) to house the machines which I valued at $200/month (far below what we would have actually paid to rent a space
(200*4 = $800)
I provided at least $500 of materials to build racks and a cooling system.
In addition to that, I logged 243 hours working directly on this project, at a rate of $35/hour.
(35*243 = $8505)
I also contracted the work of several others to help with electrical setup, rack setup, cooling setup, etc. as well as to help take care of the machines in the event that I was unable to attend to them.
I think that this is value I added to the company and value that I should be able to be remunerated for. I do not think I am being unfair in any of the prices or rates I listed. When all is said and done I have invested quite a bit of time and personal capital into this company that would have otherwise had to be paid for by the company, cutting into dividend payments and growth. My investment has easily been worth the $15837.93 that investors contributed.
$3411.58+ $225+ $800+ $500+ $8505= $13441.58$13441.58- $15837.93= -$2396.35This is my first time hearing this. Do you have any proof of you contracting these people?You should have put in a clause covering remuneration. We are going to need much more documentation (see below) if you want us to give you any remuneration.We are going to need documentation of Hardware bought, used, donated Your clocked labor hours Contracted help All I ask is that you keep trusting me and look through the few disgruntled INVESTORS who loudly throw accusations around.
*cough* shakaru *cough* Fixed. Also, I stopped trusting you awhile ago. I'm just not as loud as other investors. |
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If the spammer decided to mine his own blocks, would the fact that he is adding power to the network, and would have less frequent spam transactions mean that he is causing less of a problem?
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Only the trusted nodes have any real power. If that is democracy, it's like when voting had property ownership requirements. It might be "democracy", but I don't like it.
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That's probably why nobody has developed any single way to live our lives.
Oh no, they try to do that! They just know that they need to put the idea of God behind it! As well as objective morality. |
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So we can assume tawsix controls ~8,000 with which he can do whatever with...
If he votes with those ~8k shares, then we know that he doesn't give a fuck what we think and that we need to take him to court. Yeah that. It'll be pretty clear the course of action that needs to be taken if there's suddenly a huge amount of shares voting towards liquidation. LOL. We got owned on GLBSE as well. Pretty smart to own 51% of the shares so only you can vote. Damn scammer ! Did he vote with his shares? How many shares? There are only 14 Yea votes, so I can safely say that Tawsix has not voted. On a related note, GLBSE is back up (had some downtime last night), and I was able to get my votes in. |
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Why not control their belief system with fear based double-speak and fallacious arguments that reinforce those fears? Write a vitriolic book, wear a scary uniform, or just repeat yourself with INCREASING VOLUME and maybe you will find other weak minded people to follow you. It worked for Hitler, Ayn Rand, and every other powerful person spewing really bad ideas.
What if you had really good ideas? Would it work even better, or backfire? |
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 You'd have to make me an offer for Bitcoinduit.com (hint: it's worth a multiplier of the source code, hosting and wallet), as INAU was only using my domain, and I alternatively have no interest in the code. I certainly know that the domain would be a lovely icing to go onto the source code cake. But, do I really need Bitcoinduit.com to have Bitcoinduit? You could register a new domain, or get Justduit.net from INAU (probably included). I guess you could call it whatever you want, but without the domain you'd end up sending a lot of people to Bitcoinduit and *whatever* its future brings. Why not just get a new domain? I don't really want to sell Bitcoinduit, which means that the offer would have to be too good to pass up.. In other words, you probably can't afford it. -Jonathan I have this strange feeling that you would really redirect it to Goatse... I just have to find a way to play off it being Bitcoinduit without people going to bitcoinduit.com I suppose I could pay you to redirect bitcoinduit.com to my domain? |
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