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681  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Physical Bitcoin - Alternatives to Casascius? on: December 06, 2011, 11:08:24 PM
I am new at this but why aren't more people selling physical BTC wallets (coins, paper, or otherwise) on ebay or other more visible exchanges? Is it that the market is still very small, a limited supply, or maybe the margins are too low for ebay fees?

I plan on selling them on ebay soon, and based upon the prices I get, I will also be selling them on printcoins through paypal.

The main reason I haven't yet is I didn't want to do it before working out the issues of production and order management.

Is importing private keys still a hassle for people? I went to http://printcoins.com/redeem and if MtGox and StrongCoin allow for simple imports, you would think that isn't the problem.

I guess until the default client allows/enables it, we won't know for sure.
682  Other / Off-topic / Re: Solar Panels, Home fuel cells, etc? on: December 06, 2011, 09:54:54 PM
My parents, er...room mates...just signed the contract for a 33 panel array for our house.  Some of that is due to me mining 24/7, hehe.  We did it the lease way, where you just pay a monthly bill to the solar company, instead of buying out of pocket up front.

So instead of paying the power company monthly, you're paying the people who installed it monthly? LOL I guess the only reason you would do that is if you wanted to be green.

Is it lease to own, as in will it eventually be paid off?
683  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin the enabler - Truly Autonomous Software Agents roaming the net on: December 06, 2011, 08:01:58 PM

All along I was thinking about how possible computationally intelligent agents will use bitcoins as their currency as well. If bitcoins become accepted everywhere, the agent would be able to get all of its needs met (hardware, software, energy, security, hu-man-power) using bitcoins. It would not need an SS number to open a bank, it would not need an identity, it could work in a swarm collective, or as a replicating individual. It would not need an anthropomorphic body, as their will be plenty of willing ones available that can be hired without even knowing they are talking with a machine.

Basically a corporation without the investors or annoying bureaucracy, and without any legal obligations or morality. It won't be a scary walking robot with a gun. It will be a box sitting under a desk telling people to be scary and walk around with guns. That is of course only if that is what it takes to get its needs met.

Sounds like a good start for a scifi novel.

Maybe we'll meet one day, inside one of these:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0123755/

The Cube is one of my favorite movies. I'll see you there bro.


We'll probably be one of the slave workers/convicts from the prequel. :/
684  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin the enabler - Truly Autonomous Software Agents roaming the net on: December 06, 2011, 07:59:01 PM
Governments will build millions of slightly-different evolving automated versions. This Gray Goo ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_goo ) will be dropped inside a hostile state. Currently probably Iran. Or China even?

The bots will try to profit off the economy of the hostile state. When successful profit-schemes have been found, other bots will be notified so they too can maximize profit. All profit will be turned in to Bitcoins. These Bitcoins will be "destoryed" (lost inside untracable wallet files). Thereby slowly grinding the economy to a halt as all money is drained away by these automatons. Descending the state into revolt and then anarchy.

You're right, but the revolt and anarchy would only be local.  It would just maximize the value of the government(s) and our own bitcoins, assuming that we aren't in the hostile state.

Bitcoin needs to start deflating now! lol  Tongue
685  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Interested in forming a new alt currancy for personal use, help needed. on: December 06, 2011, 07:49:49 PM
Hi all,

I am Interested in forming a new alt currancy for personal use. Is there anyone skilled enough that would be able to help me?

Thanks.

For personal use? You mean record keeping?
686  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin the enabler - Truly Autonomous Software Agents roaming the net on: December 06, 2011, 07:31:27 PM
I would be interested to see if a software agent to destroy all bitcoins it did not need to survive or expand (at a predictable rate) would be created.

There's a word for this kind of behavior, but I forget what it's called.
687  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The People's Currency? on: December 06, 2011, 07:25:28 PM
Alright, so it's the currency of the people, by the people, and for the people.

Edit: robots, too- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=53855.0

A government of the people, by the people, for the people is supposed to be democracy. I suppose that in communism the government is supposed to be the people (rather than of the people).
688  Other / Off-topic / Re: Solar Panels, Home fuel cells, etc? on: December 06, 2011, 08:38:41 AM
I am sure we will be seeing new forms of energy combined with Bitcoin in the future.

Can't wait to see those super computers in space generating bitcoins with their anti-matter engines.
689  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Idea: Specialty HomeBrew beverages for bitcoin on: December 06, 2011, 08:33:46 AM
I thought I would run this idea by the community and see if there would be any interest in me pursueing it: I have in the past dabbled in homebrewing bevages. Previously, I have done things like mead and hard cider, but I would like to experiment with beer, ale, wine, brandy, moonshine, etc. Basically I like to try new things.

Would you be interested in buying such drinks with bitcoin?

To get up and running, I could list an asset on the GLBSE to get some capital. Do you prefer to invest in bonds or stocks?

Any specific drink you would want to see on the menu?

Thanks for any suggestions!

Bitcoin Homebrew... I know, we'll call it BitBrew! Oh wait...

Before you talk about selling the beverages, I'd like to know about the processes used to brew your beverages in the past. Just enough to know that I won't be getting any vinegar, heavy metal laden, or ethylene glycol surprises.

Also, i'm not sure if people would be to keen on buying your "experiments", perhaps the first batch or two would be sent out for testing/sampling.
690  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The free market speaks! FDA-AVOIDED Dustberries! on: December 06, 2011, 08:22:21 AM
The dust from computers carries loads of radioactive dust that causes cancer.
God, what kind of computer do you  have that 1)produces dust and 2) makes it radioactive.

You could sell this technology to operators of atomic power plants, so they don't have to filter these materials from shitloads of mined earth and stuff.



1. Acquire steal computer
2. Bring computer to Chernobyl Fukushima
3. Huh
4. Infinite Dust
5. Infinite Radiation
6. Huh
7. Infinite Profit
691  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Physical Litecoins on: December 06, 2011, 03:34:11 AM
Oh hey I just thought of something...

my laser machine can cut AND engrave acrylic.  I could make transparent litecoins no problem.  Now, no way to hide the private key... but neato as a collector's item.

Perhaps you could mess around with refraction of light to make the private key latent until the coin is cracked or opened, each of which would change visibility.

Or maybe you could make it like a glowstick (dye would go from clear-black), just bend the coin and the ink/dye comprising the private key would appear. I'm not sure if you would need to put the dye on some medium to keep it from being damaged though... The coin would still be mostly transparent.

Perhaps make and outer layer that's UV-blocking and a UV-sensitive private key on and inner layer. That way, it is transparent to the visible spectrum, but once you remove the UV-blocking layer, you can place the private key layer under a black light to view it.
692  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I look forward to the day when I can - on: December 06, 2011, 03:18:13 AM
Buy a house with Bitcoin and turn the whole house into a mining operation.

That's like buying a show horse to turn it into a work horse.
693  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin value in January 2013 on: December 06, 2011, 03:15:45 AM
$2 - $3 is more unstable than $12 - $15. A drop from $3 to $2 means that I lost 1/3 my money while a drop from $15 to $12 means that I lost 1/5.

While it is true that difficulty follows price, it is also true that miners are a big part of the selling force at the markets. That selling force will halve in 2013, so this could create some upward pressure in the markets. But then again, there are so many things that affect price... We've seen a 90% drop and the bitcoins per block are still at 50.

When the block return halves, theoretically we should see miners selling half of what they did when blocks gave 50 coins.

As for what non-miners do with their coins will depend heavily on the usefulness of coins at that point in time. I guess there is a lot of pressure on bitcoiners this year.
694  Economy / Marketplace / Re: [Announce] SimpleCoin.com - Buying Bitcoins Became Simple Today on: December 06, 2011, 12:20:15 AM
2 questions people would probably like to see answered.

What do you use to calculate the cost per bitcoin? Why is the smallest amount you can buy 3 bitcoins (i assume it is because of CC fees)?
695  Economy / Marketplace / Re: [Announce] SimpleCoin.com - Buying Bitcoins Became Simple Today on: December 05, 2011, 11:40:27 PM
I haven't gotten past the homepage, because I'm not interested in purchasing ATM, but when/where do I give my CC info? Is that page HTTPS?
696  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Mother of 15 Kids: “Somebody needs to pay for all my children." on: December 05, 2011, 11:10:10 PM
I guess the question to you Alpha, is... What do you do with the children if she can't take care of them?
They die, of course. People have been dying for thousands of years. You think people back in prehistoric times complained about dying? Hell no! So what's the big deal?

Agreed, it's not a big deal at all. The only logical course of action is to do nothing.

I like how the correct answer came from someone who doesn't have the ability to form logical arguments and will resort to appeals to emotion every single time.

Its a question of values.  Your answer makes sense to you as it fits your values.  Others may feel that the children's lives are worth trying to save and their answer will be equally "logical."
Not only that, but neither of your answers came from Alpha, so they are equally unimportant to me.

Just kidding, but I would like some straightforward responses from Alpha.
697  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining on a cell phone on: December 05, 2011, 06:27:17 AM
Once pooler releases the source, assuming your smartphone is android, it shouldn't be TOO difficult to port it into an android app (android is coded in Java, primarily). By kill the battery I didn't mean drain it, but wear it out -- IIRC that's why you're supposed to remove the battery from you laptop when plugged in and at 100%.

We need a Dalvik miner. Seriously.
698  Economy / Marketplace / Re: [ANN] Crypto X Change Now OPEN on: December 04, 2011, 09:54:16 PM
- $500 in total... once that amount is withdrawn or deposited from the account, ID verification is required to withdraw or deposit more. This does not include BTC (you can withdraw or deposit unlimited BTC with no AML restrictions).

- Determining whether an account is "suspicious" is a subjective judgement on our part, and we cannot divulge the criteria we use for obvious reasons. Note that when an account seems suspicious, we'll investigate further and determine the proper course of action.

Regards,
-Crypto X Change

I know you might not find it wise to answer, but would an account that didn't withdraw or deposit in fiat be deemed suspicious?

Would you advise using an account as an e-wallet?
699  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to give Bitcoins for birthdays / Christmas / weddings / etc. on: December 02, 2011, 08:29:20 AM

"Bitcoin is a grassroots currency project and I am a fan of it.  It was created by an anonymous guy on the Internet in 2009, and has mushroomed into something much bigger.  You can Google it and read more.  Although the 25 Bitcoin piece I am giving you is only worth $100 today, it was worth less than a dollar in 2010, and last June, it could have easily been sold for well over $500.  The value fluctuates up and down, much like stocks or gold, sometimes slowly sometimes quickly, and you can always see what it's worth online any time.

"In the end, no one really knows what they're going to be worth five years from now.  They probably won't be worth what they're worth now.  They will probably either become worth absolutely nothing, or they might become worth a fortune.


Reminds me of the state lotteries advertising that you get someone a scratch-off for a christmas present. I saw a christmas card earlier that said something along the lines of "I got you a little something...(front) That might be a big something(inside, with scratch off on other page)".
700  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Governments/regulators may eventually actually *like* Bitcoin. - coin blacklists on: December 02, 2011, 08:24:05 AM
The government is going to tell people to freeze/take coins, it's already starting, just not particular coins yet.

mm.. yes.
Bitcoin seems like it may be far from the anonymous libertarian dream many saw it as - but I still think it levels the playing field somewhat.


It only hurts if lots of people join and there aren't that many tainted coins. If all coins are tainted it's just another way of gov saying don't use bitcoin.

Plus all of this first requires gov to explicitly endorse and approve the non-tainted coins.

If this were to happen, I hope that once started up, all coins as of now being considered clean. The only exception I could think of would be unspent stolen coins, where there is documentation of the stolen/illegally acquired coins going to an address and being held as of the time the blacklist goes up.

Of course what is considered tainted would be decided by the person making the list. It could be focused on laundered coins, drug related coins, terror related coins, etc. Sadly, the most accepted lists would be ones that comply with the government (the ones meatspace merchants would be required to use).
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