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1341  Local / Marketplace (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: BK8 - Kripto Online Kasino Terbesar dan Terpercaya di Asia - BTC & USDT on: December 30, 2021, 02:57:04 PM
Nah berhubung ada yang dapet max win a.k.a 50x, gimana kalau ada max win yang lain om? Karena ga ada aturan resminya dari sampean untuk kasus multiplier sama, apa yg menang yang duluan post atau yang lebih tinggi betnya atau hadiah dibagi2. Misalkan urutan 1-2 sama2 dapet 50x dengan nominal bet sama, apakah hadiah 1 + 2 dijumlahkan terus dibagi 2? Atau gimana?
Max win tiap game kan beda-beda gan ada yang 5.000x (50x kalo bonus buy), ada yang 10.000x (100x kalo bonus buy), dst*. Jadi ya mengurangi chance untuk sama-sama dapet 50x. Tapi seandainya sama-sama 50x keknya usulan (1 + 2) / 2 itu fair sih. Santai lah, susah itu kejadiannya! Grin

*ada juga game 25.000x tapi keras kek batu.

Ini mungkin bisa dijadikan bounty untuk pemain agar memberikan review tentang aplikasinya.
Bisa dengan menawarkan beberapa dollar per review ane rasa pasti banyak yang ngikut buat nyobain aplikasinya dan bisa memberikan feedback buat team bk8.
Atau bisa juga dengan membuat kontes review dimana peserta harus mencoba main beberapa jenis permainan yang ada lewat aplikasi trus review terbaik mendapatkan hadiah yang menarik.
Review di mana gan? Apps juday kan ga boleh masuk appstore. Mungkin jadi feedback aja kali ya kalo-kalo ada bug, kek dulu FJ itu. Tapi kurang efektif keknya kalo buat promosi.
1342  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why should Gambling be legalized ? on: December 30, 2021, 02:37:52 PM
Yes, it's much better if gambling is legal. With the legal status, there will be rules/regulations that casino must obey. This will lead to better casino quality and then fewer people getting rekt by crappy provider. One example is about RTP. Once the rule states that RTP must not below 95%, it will massively affect the industry and turn it into a more fair industry. No more "scam" casino offering low RTP that will suck your money quick.

Another important thing is about arbitration, where dispute can be settled easier because the rule is clear. No more scam casino refusing to pay your winnings (if it's legit).
1343  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Opinion on increasing gambling. on: December 30, 2021, 02:25:54 PM
It could be accurate to say this generation was born and raised on video games.

Gambling on the internet is merely another video game where people can exchange their time and energy for profits and money. Rather than the usual video game happy ending™.
Yes, and the industry often called "gaming" not "gambling" because of the similarity.


The development of slots (especially) is crazy when you compare the graphics of Reactoonz 2 (2020) to older games like Myth (2018).
It's like a double-edge sword when experienced players surely have more fun playing better games, but at the same time attract young gullible newbies that can create problem if they then become problem gambler. I think more rule has to be set for the marketing/influencer, as well as better parenting, to educate their children about gambling.
1344  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) on: December 30, 2021, 02:06:30 PM
one of the best slot machines that I have played are in bitcasino, betfury and stake.com, there I have had good experiences, although of course I have also lost, but I have a lot of experience left.
all mentioned websites have the same slot provider source,IIRC.
Yeah, they pretty much have the same slots providers (or brand) like Pragmatic, PnG, etc., but they have different distributor such as Hub88, SoftSwiss, etc.
So switching between Bitcasino and Stake is somewhat make sense, since they have different distributor CMIIW. But switching from one SoftSwiss powered casino to other SoftSwiss powered casino is a bit strange. Still, neither will affect your odds (theoretically).

Also, if "good experience" means win (not about the site performance, usability, etc.), then eventually all casinos will become "scammer" Grin
1345  Other / Politics & Society / Re: I need to get something off my chest about our society on: December 29, 2021, 10:27:58 AM
"Life is not fair." (just for an icebreaker Grin)
Seriously man, there are many artists who have great paintings, but not appreciated, cannot become famous, etc. Meanwhile, when I look at the expensive paintings, I scratch my head and ask what's good about it?

Aside from NFT is a highly manipulated space, I think there's room for improvement from your side. Since you already mention "big marketing budgets," I think it has some truth in it. Maybe you need more marketing, and reach out to NFT collector if it's about NFT. Looking at your art, I can still enjoy it, so it's a good sign. Wiseman said "Ugly is absolute, but beautiful is relative." You only need to reach out to the rich people who have the same taste as me.

You need to market your product, which means to find people who:
- can afford your product
- need your product
- pitchable/open to offer
1346  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Is it good to penalize airdrop hunters? on: December 29, 2021, 09:38:50 AM
Penalizing airdrop hunter is bad, since project already stated they will do an airdrop. It's better if they just didn't do the airdrop in the first place! The behavior of canceling or penalizing airdrop hunter is just a sign that the project is a joke, they are confused, doesn't have any plan, etc.

Anyway, rather off-topic, I prefer bounty (work) than airdrop (free money).
1347  Economy / Speculation / Re: What about 2022? on: December 29, 2021, 09:11:06 AM
I believe 2022 will be the accumulation year. Last time I predicted like $20k in November, but the price seems just not making a serious move. I'd like to see the pump but we already get so much profit last year so it seems too good to be true. I'd say BTC mainly will stay at $30k-40k level and will gradually get higher because of economic growth. There won't be another serious pump before the next halving, but that's just my feeling not based on some quantitative method.
1348  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who’s who in the gambling subforum? on: December 29, 2021, 08:53:28 AM
For slots, i'd put up mu_enrico as one of the experts this guy has probably tried every slot game out there and I enjoy browsing his informative thread on slots.
And in particular there is a thread that I think concentrates a large part of experienced players in the slots, so in order not to leave out any of them I am going to name its creator mu_enrico and all those who participate in this thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5249415.0 /    
Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion
Thanks mate, my balls are getting bigger because of the shout out Cheesy

Seriously, if you are a slots addict, why not post there on slots 101. We are not "expert" per se, but just love the game and play the game more often than the others. Experienced in slots doesn't mean we can make sure profits, but at least I can provide a pleasant home to chill, share interesting games, and bragging our wins (high multiplier).

Even if you are an expert in any sport and have a lot of knowledge about it, it does not guarantee that all your bets will be successful.
Correct, but their input often resonates and their prediction sounds logically good. But we are dealing with unknown, so no one has a working crystal ball.
1349  Economy / Economics / Re: Corporations use inflation as an excuse to raise prices and fatten profits on: December 29, 2021, 08:08:40 AM
But don't forget that the real value of the dollar profits also affected by inflation. It's possible, even with the increased profit margin, the real value of USD profits falls below what stated years ago. But I think the inflation problem is deeper than just raising prices. For example, with such goods scarcity and economic instability, small businesses tend to go bankrupt quicker than big corporations, thus eliminating competition, and in the end, reflected on accounting report: good sales, fat profits, etc.
1350  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / [Diskusi] Digital Futures Exchange (DFX) & Pedagang Fisik Aset Kripto on: December 28, 2021, 10:27:03 AM
Dari berita katanya "Badan Pengawas Perdagangan Berjangka Komoditi (Bappebti) akan meluncurkan bursa kripto Digital Futures Exchange (DFX) paling lambat awal 2022."

Apabila ini sudah release, apakah nantinya order book semua market akan disatukan seperti pada IDX (Indonesia Stock Exchange/Bursa Efek Indonesia) sehingga semua Pedagang Fisik Aset Kripto akan menjadi broker saja? Tentunya ini hal yang menggembirakan karena membuat bursa menjadi efisien, dan order jual/beli akan lebih mudah terisi dibanding dengan saat market terpisah.

Untuk Bitcoin ini tentu menggembirakan karena sudah pasti dapat jatah listing, tapi bagaimana dengan koin-koin lain? Apakah nanti tidak menimbulkan pro kontra ketika misalnya melisting DOGE tapi tidak melisting SHIB?

Kemudian, apakah nanti ada jam buka/tutup market seperti pada IDX? Apakah ada perubahan fee, minimum wede, dsb. Tentunya ini menjadi suatu hal yang penting untuk kita cermati.
1351  Economy / Economics / Re: What's your opinion of the insurance industry? on: December 28, 2021, 09:59:02 AM
I think you need to breakdown the problem. If the problem is complex, there's no single antidote that can cure all the problems. Let's see several areas that we can improve:
- Agent/brokers/middlemen: this the area in which inefficiencies occur, it can be reduced into "host/personal customer support" whose job is to make sure all documents provided by insured are legit, preparing paperworks, continually in touch with the insured. Can an app replace it? Or human touch is still preferred?
- Who will calculate VAR, premium, etc. can algorithm calculate it better than human (expert)?
- Slow to pay claims: how can the technology make it faster to verify all documents?

Automation needs a well-thought architecture, and without a clear white paper, it's difficult to tell whether or not your DAO will make sense.
1352  Economy / Gambling / Re: BK8 - Biggest and Most Trusted Brand. Asia's #1 Crypto online casino BTC & USDT on: December 28, 2021, 07:20:22 AM
I think BK8 need to adjust the IDR value for Netent games to make it as cheap as possible like Pragmatic.
I don't think it's possible mate. I haven't seen Netent games with less than IDR 2,000 minimum bet across casinos, same as Play'nGO.
But in case you can find it, take a screenshot and post it here so the team knows.
My guess is that not all providers accept micro-betting below $0.1 (or IDR 2,000).

Is it not better to play in a bonanza or zeus? Those with simple patterns sometimes give you victory. Just try to play on this site, I've tried it, quite the results
It depends on your luck. For me, Salty Bonanza hasn't earned me more than ~780x win. Zeus, however, gave me more than ~1000x win several times.
1353  Economy / Gambling / Re: Duelbits.com | Instant BTC,ETH & LTC withdraws | $450k xmas giveaway! | VIP | on: December 28, 2021, 06:59:21 AM
On December 26, I withdrew my LTC balance to my LTC address on Binance.  But until now, the status of the transaction on my Duelbits is still in process and it's been more or less 2 days.  Is there a solution for a stuck withdrawal?  or does it take a long time?  I first withdraw LTC from duelbits. I need help guys, who know more about that.
It shouldn't take that long just to send LTC. It should be instant, like 5 minutes tops.
Have you contacted their live support? Check if the fund was pending, whether on Duelbits or Binance to determine which party you should notice.
1354  Economy / Gambling / Re: BK8 - Biggest and Most Trusted Brand. Asia's #1 Crypto online casino BTC & USDT on: December 28, 2021, 06:18:23 AM
How come? Cheesy
IIRC you once said that Buy Feature is the worst thing and now you're addicted to doing Buy Features :v
I mostly played in USD/EUR casinos since local casinos seem too dark/illegal/not trustworthy, so IDR 20K or ~$1.5 bonus buy wasn't possible. If you buy bonus for $20 it's just not worth it, the duration, the risk, hence deposit $100 cannot last long.

It's different when we you play in BK8 using IDR. Deposit $100 can last for hours. Even if I lose in the end, it's not as painful as playing using USD for five f*ckin minutes Grin
1355  Other / Politics & Society / Re: First FDA approved Covid-19 drug on: December 27, 2021, 02:36:39 PM
Is it going to be more effective and cheaper than Ivermectin? I don't think so.
The drug is already here all along, but since Big Pharma did not release it. It marked as a "Horse Dewormer" Smiley

Some lecture worth watching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufy2AweXRkc
1356  Economy / Gambling / Re: Self-exclusion/ban who to be blame on: December 27, 2021, 02:28:19 PM
Well, in the self-exclusion drama, I think players tried to find legal holes so they can win $$$. Conversely, banning because of ToS violation is casino tried to profit from legal. However, since casinos have a reputation to maintain, they cannot just act haphazardly, while players have nothing to lose if they create such accusations. In my opinion, self-exclusion thingy ain't worth spotlight. Simply notice the provider or just ignore the email completely. Asking the world to stop sending you promotion material about gambling is too much to ask.
1357  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Robot Trading, Menjanjikan Profit, Benarkah? on: December 27, 2021, 09:53:24 AM
^Kalo robot trading yang beneran (ga ada unsur tipu2) maka bisa saja dipakai kalau agan paham cara setup dan lain-lain. Tapi kalau yang menjanjikan opit, mungkin bisa baca berita ini dulu terkait penipuan yang berkedok robot trading.

BPKN: Robot Trading, Bom Waktu yang Lebih Dahsyat dari Penipuan Investasi Lain
1358  Economy / Gambling / Re: BK8 - Biggest and Most Trusted Brand. Asia's #1 Crypto online casino BTC & USDT on: December 27, 2021, 06:19:41 AM
I heard that Pragmatic is very bad recently, many players get rekt playing buy feature in pragmatic slots. So Netent can be an alternative although the risk is higher, there are also some Nextspin games with buy feature. Unfortunately there is no way to filter the slots game by "buy feature" category, hope it will be available next update.
Not really, this month I bought bonus almost every day: Gate of Olympus, Salty Bonanza, Starlight, Fruit Party 1 & 2. The crappiest game was only Salty Bonanza. Luckily 20K IDR bonus buy is nothing for such an experiment Grin FYI I lost money only in the most toxic game. For sure you can get long loss streak, but I believe IDR 500K is enough for 20K bonus buy. Well, it should be $500 bankroll if you play using USD for $20 bonus buy.

Netent is too expensive if you play with IDR, especially when the minimum bet requirement is only 50K IDR for the contest. Yeah, Nextspin is cheap, so it's a good alternative Cheesy
1359  Economy / Gambling / Re: Duelbits.com | Instant BTC,ETH & LTC withdraws | $450k xmas giveaway! | VIP | on: December 27, 2021, 05:27:46 AM
The raffle is over it seems that none of the forum users won the grand prize because I never saw the username here and what about $125 did anyone get ?
I just checked the account no balance there  Cheesy luck is not on my side but very happy to see a fair and transparent draw, congrats to whoever wins.
I did not watch the stream and I just opened my account but nothing, so yeah it is not our lucky day Smiley Is there any place to see the complete winners list? It would be nice if duelbits can share the list of the winners in this thread so we can check if there is some users who are from this forum who are lucky enough in the draw. @roycilik @mu_enrico, are you lucky enough buddy? I believe roycilik had many tickets so I hope he win something in the lottery.
I got nothing as well Cheesy
I guess 70 tickets ain't enough to win anything. I watched the draw but I don't really like the streamer, so I skipped the show. Last year IIRC was heyitsjoe, but he's not the host for this draw anymore.

Sweet Bonanza sucks lol
F*ckin Salty Bonanza is currently the most toxic game on my list, but somehow I keep trying LMAO
This month I believe I have made over 200 bonus buys (not sure how many, but definitely hundreds), and my best multiplier was 7.77x.
1360  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: BK8.com Holiday Competitions || $580 Prize Pool on: December 26, 2021, 03:47:15 PM
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