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1141  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) on: April 18, 2022, 06:27:03 AM
I felt the discussion above mostly is just a matter of definition, just like this scene.
For us street gamblers, it's pretty obvious that the smaller the minimum bet, the more we can spin, scoring more wager before our limited bankroll got empty.

Real example, I participated in a contest some time ago and I made 200k bets with $0.01 bet means I have wagered $2,000 while I started it with less than $50.
I believe I wont reach $2,000 wager if I bet more than $0.5 per spin as I may lose my initial bankroll sooner.
Yeah, the important assumption here is "limited bankroll" as the theory often forgot to mention the used assumption.
For example, RTP/HE assumes unlimited spins/bankroll.

So with $50, we can spin more with a $0.01 minimum bet and:
on a larger number of bets, we will get the value closest to the RTP.
Smiley
1142  Other / Archival / Re: How will the stock market crash affect the price of bitcoin in 2022? on: April 18, 2022, 05:49:10 AM
I've measured S&P 500 and BTC correlation some time ago. It was positively correlated but not significant. So if the stock market (S&P 500) crashes, there's still a possibility that the BTC price won't crash as well.

But since the result was pretty near to significant, I think BTC price will follow the stock market just like what happened in the Covid crash.
1143  Economy / Gambling / Re: BK8 - Biggest and Most Trusted Brand. Asia's #1 Crypto online casino BTC & USDT on: April 17, 2022, 01:57:37 PM
But if earlier in Jakarta, you could play gambling and it was legalized, or half legalized, then why is the government of the country so categorically against the legalization of gambling?
If you make special zones on the islands, and the appropriate taxation is the same as a wonderful source of replenishment of the state budget.
It is not clear?
Read about how Ali Sadikin built Jakarta from gambling related revenue. Yes, gambling once LEGAL in Jakarta despite no change in the demographic. It is an excellent reading material for youngsters who didn't know. In the present days, I don't think gambling will be legalized anywhere in Indonesia because of shifting in power, from nationalists to conservative/religious parties. Okay, this is going off topics.

Anyway, BK8 published stadium tour videos:
- BK8 x Villarreal CF Estadio de la Cerámica Tour
- BK8 x Valencia CF - Mestalla Stadium Tour

This should prove further that BK8 is a well-established casino Wink

What is the full meaning of BK8?
I believe it's Bola King 8, "bola" translated as ball, and 8 is just a lucky number.
CMIIW, I might be wrong, I'll ask the support about this if it's really important for you guys.
1144  Economy / Gambling / Re: BK8 - Biggest and Most Trusted Brand. Asia's #1 Crypto online casino BTC & USDT on: April 16, 2022, 12:32:00 PM
Curious to know why the Indonesian government is so strict about the gambling industry? 
This is a huge country in which about 300 million Indonesians live.  And yet they live on 18,000 islands.  It would be possible to organize special zones for the gambling industry on several islands.  And make them legal. 
Is it true that Islam forbids doing this?  Then the ban is understandable, but still a pity.
The separation between religion and state in Indonesia is growing thin day by day because of weak leadership. In the past, you can gamble in Jakarta while drinking alcohol, and it's legal. So it's not about religion since I think all religions forbid gambling (CMIIW, I'm not an expert in all religions Grin). It's about the politics. If the current trend persists in Indonesia, I don't think there will be legalization, whether it's mainstream or for a certain region in gambling anytime soon.

FYI, religion is quite a sensitive topic in Indonesia, so better not to touch that area.
1145  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) on: April 16, 2022, 12:18:32 PM
isn't the house edge in slots about the same for all games? By and large, there is no difference in which game to play, there is only a difference whether you can choose the degree of risk or not (and compared to dice, of course, there are much fewer options for choosing).
Well, it depends on how much difference would you call as "about the same." Yeah, Pragmatic Play has a ~96.5% RTP, and others vary from ~95% to ~97%. However, that's not the point when @Bitinity suggest Tree of Riches and 888 Dragon.

These two games simply allow you to bet $0.01/spin, therefore, your balance will last longer than if you play with a higher bet (let's say $0.1/spin). For wagering contests, there are two variables that pretty much determine the "sustainability, " i.e., (1) minimum bet, and (2) volatility (e.g. 1.01x setting at dice). Since you can't tweak the slots volatility, it would be best to seek for the lowest minimum bet allowed. This is the "best bang for your buck" method. However, this method can't guarantee winning because it's slow. You'll be out-wagered by a whale with $10/spin. Grin
1146  Local / Marketplace (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: BK8 - Kripto Online Kasino Terbesar dan Terpercaya di Asia - BTC & USDT on: April 13, 2022, 05:07:15 PM
om @mu_enrico koreksi kalo ane salah.
Ya emang gitu gan, 40% dari laba bersih persis kek ilustrasi agan.
Sama aja pake model %-laba bersih atau pake %-wager, jumlah "downline" bukan penentu utama opit, tapi tentunya keaktifan dan kantong downline tsb. Punya 5 minimal tapi whale semua ya auto kaya dah, dibanding punya 50 tapi depo receh mulu 50-100rb Grin

serem juga liatnya. Kayak mirip dengan aplikasi sebelah yang afiliatornya kena tangkap.
Betul, promosi juday itu masih illegal di dalam negeri, makanya kalau bisa targetnya adalah global, tidak pakai channel/situs/sosmed berbahasa Indo. Kalau memang ingin menembus market lokal indo, domisili di luar negeri lebih baik. Kalo tidak nanti kucing-kucingan ma pol PP, apesnya bisa ketangkep.
1147  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sweet Bonanza: The #1 Pragmatic Play Slots, What's Your Opinion? on: April 13, 2022, 04:44:11 PM
Since the end of March until this April, for some reason I hate Sweet Bonanza, no matter how much money I spend for playing sweet bonanza, I always lose and rekt. still haven't found any luck in this game.could it be true, if we already get a big win, we better find another game and forget about the last game we play. haha.
LoL, this game sure is toxic as f*ck.
Not sure if I can move on, since I've burned so much money there! The little devil whispers, "the next bonus buy will give your money back. "  Grin

Anyway, this game has medium volatility, so probably we should treat this game as such, not trying to get a high multiplier, but more of a higher bet play. Let's go bonus buy $100 !!
1148  Economy / Gambling / Re: BK8 - Biggest and Most Trusted Brand. Asia's #1 Crypto online casino BTC & USDT on: April 13, 2022, 04:27:23 PM
no one shill me to playing slots, i was initially intrigued by @mu_enrico's post on getting max-win on starlight.  Tongue
Hahaha, sadly after getting the max-win, I've run into a long period of rekt.
It's been a few months since I've never withdrawn a significant amount of money.
@roycilik said it's because I'm stingy, rarely giving tips to anyone... while the actual story is, I rarely win as well.

Damn, why people playing Fruity Party 1.
FP1 has more pace, or it's a faster game compared to FP2.
With cheap IDR betting, I think I play FP1 more since I usually do lots of bonus buys...
1149  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) on: April 12, 2022, 05:07:20 PM
Can you guys give me a recommendation on which slots could dish out the most wagering amount without losing much similar to how playing dice at 1.01x?

I sometimes play slots but I haven't stumbled upon a slot game that slowly burns your bankroll, the ones i've been playing are usually a hit or miss.

It just came to mind while I was browsing the games and rounds section as Livecasino was offering a reward for wagering 1mbtc on their slots but unfortunately, it ended earlier today.
If the minimum bet isn't specified, you can play $0.01/spin games, just like what @Panjul recommends.
But if the minimum bet is specified, like $0.1 or more, I used PnG - Perfect Gems to beat FJ's Bonus Appetit.
In the past, Nolimit City - Tomb of Nefertiti, PnG - Celebration / Beast / Temple of Wealth also earned me nice contest wins.

Generally, you should look for low/medium volatility games with lower max-win, the lower the better.
1150  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [Token] Anak Negeri $VGC (vcgamers) Apa Akan Sama dengan yang Lain? on: April 11, 2022, 01:01:55 AM
Salah satu kritik ane adalah token ini memiliki konsep yang biasa, tidak original, dan "sudah banyak" di pasaran. Sebut saja NFT marketplace dan Metaverse yang sudah bosan ane dengar di mana-mana. Apakah ada bedanya NFT marketplace lokal dan Metaverse lokal dibandingkan dengan yang sudah established? Ane rasa internet membuat kita bisa dengan mudah terhubung secara global, lalu kenapa harus lokal?

Kalau katanya timnya bener, ada audit segala macem, bagus lah, semoga kedepannya tim ini bisa banyak belajar dari proyek ini untuk bisa melakukan inovasi yang lebih lagi. Untuk $VGC sendiri, ane skeptis bisa sukses dalam jangka panjang. Jangka pendek mungkin bisa jadi spekulasi (P&D) yang oke.
1151  Economy / Gambling / Re: BK8 - Biggest and Most Trusted Brand. Asia's #1 Crypto online casino BTC & USDT on: April 10, 2022, 05:36:30 AM
I want to try a fishing game, can it make a lot of money?
Fishing game is like slots on steroid, you can make or lose a lot of money real quick, quicker than slots. It depends on your luck, really.
If you want steady income why not try their affiliate marketing? It's risk free!

Oh yes it looks interesting just there hasn't been a response from the manager so far only the proposal has not been approved
Our last contest 3 months ago hope this can be continued.
maybe they are discussing it with roycilik or mu_enrico about any possible option for the upcoming contest/competition. I am sure once roycilik say something here in this thread especially if it is related to promo/contest, he will forward it to the internal bk8 team to be reviewed first.
Well, the discussion/negotiation is still happening. Just be patient, soon (tm) Grin
BK8 is a big organization, so expect more waiting time to approve/disapprove of a proposal.
1152  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: High Rollers on: April 10, 2022, 04:52:50 AM
Whoever that person may be, that 23BTC is just like a spare money to him.
23 BTC is so huge, probably Satoshi himself gambling at Stake. Grin

why is the multiplier is showing 0.00x? I thought it was because the gambler was "hidden" but then when I visited their website I saw gamblers that are also "hidden" but show what their multiplier is. would anyone care to explain/clarify it?
He lost the bet, got zero result, so the payout is also negative.


Anyway, for small time gambler like me, I wouldn't risk too much money. Even if I somehow manage to be a millionaire, I won't become a high roller. That's just my principle.
1153  Economy / Gambling / Re: Slot Games' RTP, variable?? on: April 10, 2022, 04:43:44 AM
^No Limit city is known to have two versions of its games:
Regular with ~96% RTP and DX-1 with ~94% RTP

Normally, the casino will display "DX-1" or only use the best/desired version.
1154  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Apakah Token Menjanjikan ??? on: April 08, 2022, 08:55:39 PM
Tidak semua token menjanjikan dan bagus. Kenali dulu token-token yang hendak kita masuki. Namun bagi pemula saya lebih menyarankan trading dengan koin/token yang berada di urutan 1-100 coinmarketcap. Karena lebih low resiko. -snip-
Saya sepakat dengan Anda, tidak semua token dan koin itu bagus dan menjanjikan, tapi saya tidak akan menyarankan untuk membeli token/koin berdasarkan CMC, pasalnya ranking ini dapat berubah sewaktu-waktu, jika saat ini berada di 100 besar, belum tentu tahun depan berada di ranking yang sama. Ranking bukan tolok ukur yang bagus, sebaiknya fokus pada komunitas dan pengembangan, maka mungkin akan mendapatkan proyek yang sesuai harapan jangka panjang.
Kalau untuk invest jangka panjang 1-100 terlalu luas kalo menurut ane, risikonya terlalu besar, mungkin 1-20 gitu sudah cukup. Susah sebenernya mendeteksi apakah volume dan kapitalisasi pasar dari suatu token itu legit atau tidak. Meskipun CMC sudah memiliki algoritma dan penilaian tersendiri tapi masih tidak sepenuhnya sempurna. Ingat kalau kapitalisasi pasar itu bisa dengan mudah dimainkan, terlebih lagi di cryptocurrency tidak ada market resmi yang punya akuntabilitas baik.

Tapi kalau untuk jangka pendek, untung-untungan ikutin arus, token memang menguntungkan (kalo pas untung).
1155  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is the "Draw No Bet" not found on most sportsbook on: April 08, 2022, 08:44:51 PM
On the other hand, even if there's a draw option you can always avoid it by taking the Asian handicaps which have +0.5, +1.5, +2.5, and so on, or you can go with the draw no bet option as there are times when draw no bet markets have higher odds than the handicaps.
Yeah, but it will become draw win/lose situation, not draw no bet...
Anyway, I don't think the "draw" here is the issue. If some bookers don't allow "draw no bet," it is probably because they want users to play (win/lose). Let's say you place draw no bet and ranked up thus receive the rakeback/bonus, then the match ended in draw, it will become confusing for the casino.
1156  Local / Mining (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: GPU Semakin Murah, Saatnya Beli? on: April 08, 2022, 08:28:48 PM
Denger-denger Intel tidak memberikan limitasi hashpower buat produknya (seperti yang dilakukan oleh Nvidia), jadi kalo hashratenya oke dan harganya oke pula, kayaknya bakal jadi sasaran para peminer  Grin.
Kabarnya performance (gaming) Intel ARC versi mobile masih kalah dari AMD, bahkan di seri entry level AMD 6500M masih lebih baik dari Intel A370M, padahal seri Intel memiliki jumlah transistor lebih banyak.

Sumur.

Kalo begini bisa-bisa seri desktop juga sama aja.... Tapi, bisa jadi performance mining malah lebih baik, ya siapa tau.



Terkait jualan GPU bekas, yang penting set kelengkapan dijaga dan jualnya pas langka atau harga tinggi. Kemudian peningkatan performa dari seri lama ke seri lebih baru bisa tidak terlalu signifikan. Jadi, upgrade hanya ketika ada peningkatan performa signifikan, agar kartu tersebut bisa tahan lama. NAH, katanya seri RTX 4000 dan RX 7000 adalah seri yang lonjakan performanya cukup tajam dan membuat kartu lama obsolete.
1157  Local / Marketplace (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: BK8 - Kripto Online Kasino Terbesar dan Terpercaya di Asia - BTC & USDT on: April 05, 2022, 01:47:48 PM
itu beneran dapat Honda super cub dan Hyundai kona?. apa mobil tersebut dikirim langsung dari luar negeri ke alamat pemenang?, saya teringat beberapa waktu lalu ada member yang menang hadiah mobil tesla truck di chips.gg (kalau tak salah ingat) namun karena agak ribet juga soal pengiriman, ya diganti duit.
Ya beneran lah masa dapet miniatur atau gambarnya aja Smiley, dikirimnya dari mana ane ga begitu paham, mungkin tergantung ketersediaan barangnya.
Untuk masalah penggantian hadiah fisik ke uang, udah pernah ane tanyain dan ane usulin buat ada opsi exchange hadiahnya ke uang di thread global tahun lalu tapi ane lupa udah dijawab apa belum.
Kalau dari ToS memang dulu katanya tidak bisa diuangkan tapi berdasar diskusi ane dengan live support/VIP host, aturan tersebut tidak "kaku" jadi bisa saja ditukar kripto, kecuali kalau cuma menang powerbank/merchandise lain.

Jersey dengan tanda tangan Robin Van Persie dalam Frame, maksud dalam frame itu apa?, apa tidak bisa dipake?, alias cuma buat hiasan dinding?.
Frame disini bisa diterjemahkan ke pigura kalo di Indo, jadi jerseynya ditaruh dalam pigura untuk jadi pajangan.
Lumrahnya signed Jersey emang buat pajangan aja, jarang orang punya signed jersey original mau dipake sehari2.
Kalopun mau dipake ya bisa-bisa aja to, kan tinggal bongkar aja frame/piguranya trus ambil jerseynya dan jangan lupa cuci dulu sebelum dipake Smiley
Bener gan kalau jersey yang sudah ditandatangani itu tidak lalu untuk dipakai lagi, sayang karena bernilai tinggi kek NFT.
Kalau dicuci lalu dipakai lagi itu tandatangannya bisa luntur/ilang wah ngebakar duit itu Cheesy
1158  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) on: April 05, 2022, 01:39:15 PM
if there a simple method to know the volatility rate of each slot without undergoing to actually play the game real/demo.
....
Is there a website that provides data base for an in depth analysis on each slot?
If just opening the game and read the (i) information is also forbidden, then you can use 3rd party slots review sites such as slotcatalog.com or others.

I really want to know what's the best slot to get a higher multiplier so I conclude that volatility will be the key to my question but I don't know how to choose the perfect slot for it.
You should search for extreme or very high volatility slots paired with high max-win. Well, on the far right of the scale you can try DOA2, Mega Moolah, Tombstone RIP.

No replay = hoax, that should be the new norm Tongue
WTF Cheesy
Push Game has no replay feature Cheesy
It means that you should record it manually with screen recorder on your PC or phone anytime you play games with no replay feature.
Yeah, no replay = no fun... I love to see the big wins, especially from you guys!
Considering the event is pretty rare as well, it serves as a memento Grin
1159  Local / Marketplace (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: BK8 - Kripto Online Kasino Terbesar dan Terpercaya di Asia - BTC & USDT on: April 03, 2022, 10:59:02 AM
Jangan lupa besok tanggal 4 ada "APRIL GILA SLOT"
Ada bonus 4% dan kesempatan dapat jersey dengan tanda tangan RVP! Stoknya cuma ada 20, jadi siapa cepat dia dapat.

Selengkapnya di sini.
1160  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is the "Draw No Bet" not found on most sportsbook on: April 03, 2022, 03:30:50 AM
BK8 has it. It's beneficial to the bettor IMO since it will be easier to predict when the option is only win/lose, but the downside is the win multiplier is lower.
Why it's rarely found? Maybe because the casino doesn't want the hassle of returning the bet and probably it affects profitability and incentive system of the casino.
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