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1401  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Bitcoin Show on OnlyOneTV.com on: October 14, 2011, 12:55:20 PM
It is not my business or your business but it is the child's business.  The child will grow up to be a delusional sheep, and the child's rights are violated when you teach him/her utter crap as science.

The child is best served in a competitive educational marketplace, in which theories and ideas are taught based on competitive merit instead of diktat.

I'm not going to get deeply involved in this chat - as we're now pretty off-topic, but
The marketplace you suggest effectively peddles a lie on the unsuspecting child.  The lie is that they are receiving an education that is roughly equivalent to their peers on a national or global level.
Let them send their kids to whatever extra-curricular classes tickle their fancy - but you can't expect a madrassa or fundamentalist christian school to give a proper treatment of modern science *yet the 'customers' (ignorant parents & naive kids) are often unaware of this*.

The theories and ideas which are in the curriculum have already won on competitive merit in the scientific peer-review process.
Regardless of what baloney people want to teach their kids on the sidelines - they shouldn't be able to pretend that their local preaching institution is giving an equivalent and relevant education.
I agree with evoorhees here...you might not like what someone else is teaching their kids, but they have to be free to teach it too them.  This is where crazy ideas (like the world is round) come from.  If we allow a monoculture around education to develop, we all lose.  In a private system, the vast majority of people will put their kids through some accredited and conformist education because that's the path of least resistance to developing the tools needed to be successful.  But we need those alternative perspectives as well...every once in a while, they yield something that truly changes the world for the better.

Actually, no. You should not be free to teach your kids whatever you wish, because your child's education isn't about you, it's about your child.

The crazy idea that the world is round was a scientific determination made by the ancient Greeks (among others) well before the prevalent, Christian institutions of the early and middle ages decided the Earth was flat. It was the secular, non-religious sectors that succeeded in making the crazy idea the paradigm... but the point is that the idea was only crazy to the institutions of religious Europe, not the Greeks, not the Chinese, not most of the Arab world and so on.

The alternative perspectives you speak of can and should be pursued outside of the education system. The operating notion here is that of the rights of the child, not of the parent. Every child has a right to the most adequate education possible. To suggest that teaching children the world is about 6,000 years old is adequate is ridiculous. That child, indoctrinated into believing the world is 6,000 years old, has had his or her rights trampled on.

We, as a society, defend the rights of children not just because it's just, but also because it's self-serving. Children, as it happens, typically grow into adults. And it seems to benefit us as a society to have adults whose rights were not interfered with while they were children. Funny how that works out.

In fact, at present, every child in North America is suffering because the quality of science education in primary and secondary schools, particularly in the United States, is simply appalling.

1402  Economy / Speculation / Re: well that just sucked. someone sold 20K at once on: September 15, 2011, 07:10:24 PM
Was it a sell?  Or was it just orders being cancelled?

It was definitely a sell.
1403  Economy / Speculation / Re: well that just sucked. someone sold 20K at once on: September 15, 2011, 07:01:33 PM
Even thinking of going long or short in a market that can be manipulated by around 30,000 USD is a pretty dumb idea.
1404  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Bit-Pay Mobile Checkout - this changes everything! on: September 14, 2011, 08:04:35 PM
Well done, Bit-Pay. Do you guys ever sleep???
1405  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Dramatic Decline in the Bitcoin/Dollar Exchange Rate is Good for Bitcoin on: September 09, 2011, 07:12:53 PM
Yes, the problem with the theory is that it could be precisely the other way around. The last time we had a big drop, it was followed by a sudden buying spree, which leads one to believe just one person was making back the vast majority of the BTC that had been sold out of fear. The opposite of distribution, more consolidation into the hands of a few.

If we were to see a sudden rise in prices now, because someone is out there trying to buy 30,000 BTC at rock bottom prices, will that be greater or lesser distribution of Bitcoin?
1406  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Tower of Babel on: September 09, 2011, 06:41:41 PM
I'm guessing he was trying to find a picture of people committing suicide during a stock market crash, which would have been appropriate and mildly on topic. Instead he found a 9/11 photo, which is... well, not so much.

Nah, he was just being a dick... it's more his style.
1407  Economy / Speculation / Re: I hear all this technical analysis and all I can think is... on: September 09, 2011, 12:58:12 PM
It's not often that someone articulates my thoughts so precisely. Agreed 100%.
1408  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thank you on: September 09, 2011, 11:43:11 AM

You forgot Me! You are Welcome!

Maria.


How could I!!

Thank you Maria!




Yup, thanks Maria for buying those 125 thousand BTC... where would we be without you, darling?  Wink
1409  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Satoshi actually Richard Stallman? on: September 08, 2011, 02:39:00 AM
Take a look at the YouTube stats of this video. Look at what link is at the top. Note the view count for that link.

Phin, step away from the conspiracy theory  Grin
1410  Economy / Speculation / Re: We have seen the bottom on: September 07, 2011, 07:55:25 PM
Stupid move.



Bitcoin is going to die.



Remember dwolla? The place that shafted bitcoin?


Well they just announced:

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$1B Credit Union signs with Dwolla to offer FiSync services to members


We are extremely happy to announce Veridian Credit Union has released that they will be integrating with Dwolla's FiSync services.

The 162,000 member, $1B+ financial institution represents our largest integration to date!





Dwolla has blown up to half the size of paypal from total obscurity in 3 months.

Bitcoin should have done the same thing, but it's sitting in the corner.

Right, Genius, if Dwolla had just announced it has shrunk by 80 percent you'd be hailing that as Bitcoin's success by comparison, right? No??? I'm shocked...  Grin

That's 162 thousand more people with access to Bitcoin through Dwolla. Not bad for a Wednesday afternoon.
1411  Economy / Speculation / Re: We have seen the bottom on: September 07, 2011, 06:18:23 PM
Some big announcement that will send Bitcoin soaring??? Easy, Elwar, you're starting to sound like you know who  Grin

Just kidding. I know there are several things in the works, and I for one like where this is headed. Cheers...
1412  Economy / Speculation / Re: Paul Krugman Effect on: September 07, 2011, 04:52:02 PM
All right, just posted the comment below, let's see if it gets approved.

"I feel Mr. Krugman has failed to see the essential point in the Bitcoin experiment. Its main strength isn't that it is naturally deflationary (or neutrally inflationary in the long term), but that it is decentralised. There is no government, federal reserve or central bank that determines how Bitcoins are to be "minted", this happens organically through a peer to peer network.

So it isn't so much that Bitcoin has created a new gold standard, but that in the digital realm, it has become the equivalent of the actual gold itself. Gold that is instantaneously transmissible through the internet, uncounterfeitable, fungible and infinitely scalable.

But this is hardly the end of digital or cryptocurrencies. Mr. Krugman is possibly correct in the assumption that if all there was was Bitcoin, it would lead to a stagnant economy due to hoarding. But if Bitcoin is the digital equivalent of gold, it is quite reasonable to assume that in the future, another digital currency might appear that will be just as inflationary as any fiat currency today, but based on and backed by Bitcoin.

Bitcoin is a remarkable experiment, a technological answer to the question: what is money? This has philosophical and political ramifications that go well beyond the scope of economics and market forces. The fact that it is distributed across a network that anyone can access, that it is open source and transparent, and that its creation and supply are finite and predictable makes it an eminently democratic experiment as well."
1413  Economy / Speculation / Re: Looks like the Manipulator is back in the market. Buy-hold-SELL SELL SELL on: September 07, 2011, 04:21:37 PM
Yup, Edward, there is no ugly, boogeyman "manipulator". Time to go back on the meds  Grin
1414  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ruxum exchange implements integrated mining pool, real threat to bitcoin network on: September 07, 2011, 04:56:57 AM
When I got that email my thought was, "this is good for Bitcoin" now that yet another market entrant is going strong and continually offering new services.

Yet, you think it's a "real threat?" Would you rather there be fewer mining pools, and fewer exchanges?

Ruxum is subtly developing a very powerful platform and I'm quite impressed with their professional work thus far.

If anyone needs a Ruxum beta invite, PM me! =)

Agreed, this is good, not bad for Bitcoin.

And I'll take that beta invite if it's still available.
1415  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: EUROPEAN BITCOIN CONFERENCE 2011, PRAGUE NOV 25-27 on: September 07, 2011, 04:40:15 AM
We have been looking for high profile detractors, a debate or panel discussion might work nicely.

Does anyone have any suggestions for detractors?

I'll send you a group made of bernanke, some of the sa trolls, some keynesian guys and some "hackers can hack anything, bitcoin too" ppl Grin

Invite Krugman http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/07/golden-cyberfetters/

Have him do a panel with Falkvinge!

1416  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Yubikey use across sites? on: September 06, 2011, 02:43:50 PM
A question from deep within the recesses of my technical ignorance:

Is it possible for other sites (Tradehill, Flexcoin, Vibanko, etc) to implement user authorizations based on the Yubikey some of us are getting from Mt. Gox? Alternately, would it be possible to have a Yubikey-like solution that would work across many different sites?

Sorry if this is a stupid question.

Cheers, everyone.
1417  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: EUROPEAN BITCOIN CONFERENCE 2011, PRAGUE NOV 25-27 on: September 06, 2011, 11:38:51 AM
We have been looking for high profile detractors, a debate or panel discussion might work nicely.

Does anyone have any suggestions for detractors?

Perhaps start here:

http://www.quora.com/Bitcoin/Is-the-cryptocurrency-Bitcoin-a-good-idea
1418  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / China's already doing it with gold on: September 04, 2011, 05:59:28 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/wikileaks-discloses-reasons-behind-chinas-shadow-gold-buying-spree
1419  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: EU to declare bitcoin as 'overlay currency' on: September 04, 2011, 01:27:53 AM
It is important for reputable businesses that Bitcoin gets a solid legal foundation - otherwise they would never consider accepting it as payment.
Bitcoin CAN NOT get solid legal foundation because there is no precedent. If Bitcoin has to be regulated new laws has to be created from scratch. The law has to follow Bitcoin and not vice versa! Asking FSA for permission to trade Bitcoin is the same as asking the coachmen syndicate for permission to assemble and drive the first automobile just after the modern internal combustion engine was invented back in 1862... It is quite obvious what answer you can expect.

The legal foundation of Bitcoin already exists and is indeed fundamental - Everything that is not forbidden is allowed! And this is the leading principal of the entire humankind progress.

Now, if OP's information is correct, a total regulatory mess is in the pipes. Not only reputable businesses but also not quite reputable businesses will give up using Bitcoin.

Precisely the opposite. With a currency/commodity like Bitcoin, a regulatory framework is a fantastic idea, because bypassing it, while not exactly easy, is certainly possible. More and more we're going to see in the developed countries what the "developing" world has known for decades: a hybrid of legality and pseudo-legality in the economy.

In most of the world, there is a legal economic framework on the surface, supported by another, in some cases fully illegal, in others of dubious legality. These frameworks coexist and actually require each other for the country's economy to survive.

Bitcoin fits this model perfectly. Some things above board and open, others hidden, both coexisting and supporting one another.
1420  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: EU to declare bitcoin as 'overlay currency' on: September 03, 2011, 11:05:37 PM
I strongly advice you to not bet on that being true for all different national jurisdictions.
You don't know what are you talking about, do you? What I'm talking about is a very basic legal principal that exists in every modern legal system since the times of the ancient Roman jurisprudence! Do you think UK is an exception?

Heh, actually, the UK is THE exception to Roman Jurisprudence!!!
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