got my investment back and i still own 6TH. ROI and profit achieved within 30days. good luck folks!
edit: My bad, 5TH not 6TH
How much did you start with?! Must have been a lot. i was thinking that myself on the amount of start up, to be able to roi in 30 days means you got alot power or got something for free to help ofset costs. In any case good stuff on roi so fast |
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Update ASICMiner is attending the Internet Finance Innovation CEO Summit(IFICS) Global Bitcoin Summit(Hong Kong) to promote the latest 28NM BE300 chips and Prisma:  Here is the booth:  Here are some specs of BE300:  Well this is awsome hope the summit in hong kong goes well. I cant wait to see what 20 or 24 NM can do |
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This is interesting: Q: Will Genesis get the option to mine PayCoin, considering its SHA-256 algorithm?
A: Paycoins POW stage will only be available for a small period of time. Our technical team is still analyzing the possibility of changing over equipment to mine PayCoin during the PoW stage. We believe that allowing the HashPoint pool to stay online during this phase is the best way to allow customers to earn PayCoins during the PoW phase. Sounds like no outside mining, if even their own Genesis can't mine it. Also doesn't fit the other answers stating that Hashpoints will be discontinued once PayCoin shows up. Unless they set it so that Hashpool is an option and people still convert HP to PC rather than mine PC directly. It's still an odd setup - you have a SHA256 coin that can't be mined with a SHA256 hashlet, but can be mined with the pseudo-Scrypt hashlets. Or are you saying they would make HP Pool an option for Genesis? Edit: this seems to have been retracted. So the question about who/what/how will be able to mine PayCoin is still open. GAW_CEO
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@GAW_CEO said:
Q: Will Genesis get the option to mine PayCoin, considering it's SHA-256 algorithm?
A: Paycoins POW stage will only be available for a small period of time. Our technical team is still analyzing the possibility of changing over equipment to mine PayCoin during the PoW
stage. We believe that allowing the HashPoint pool to stay online during this phase is the best way to allow customers to earn PayCoins during the PoW phase.
Am I reading this as Zens will still be able to mine Pay Coins by proxy via hash points during the POW stage (i.e. after the coin launches?)
Also, how long is the POW stage and POS stage?
Sorry, this should not have been in there. We considered letting hashpool stay up, but we decided to end it at the end of the second round as originally stated
It's almost as if they're completely making shit up as they go along.  lol that picture is priceless i really like it. I made copy of it and posted is as wallpaper on laptop. i wonder how long till someone notices it from my household and ask as to why i have itput up lol |
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see i am interested in this card i am in the USA but i dont think it should be a problem right? Considering wiki says they located in the USA so i figure they can send out a new card. If some one can post me to official form for xapo or updates would be great. Also feel free to send test donation to xapo wallet lol
15WjeBwVoDgYMPzvMksjf8cmByJQ7zFE3x
The last I heard from Xapo support a couple of weeks ago, they said they are still in the beta phase for the cards and are keeping it small until they sort out all the issues that pop up... ahhh man that is sad to hear i really want to have a debit card that i can use anywhere debit / credit cards are accpected. I wonder if they are labeled visa, mastercard, discover or amex. I would assume they need to carry one of this logos to use them like at lets say walmart or hotel reservation. |
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I agree with puppet, why trust an exchange like Havelock that has been there for over two years. An exchange that is registered and complies with local securities regulators at the same location where they reside. Provides fast support and a telephone number in case you need to reach them right their on their contact page. Never had any major security issues since inception and provides a quality service to AM and AMHASH investors with no buy in fees and a low 0.4% sell fee.
I agree completely I personally have all my shares on havelock and sometimes buy and sell depending on the swings and dips. For AMHASH to have my business first they MUST lower the trading fees. $1.10 and 9% is ridiculous and forces people to keep their shares longer (sure this can have benefits but I HATE having my money tied up, its always nice to know I can pull out if I find a better investment and need it quick). Second if you want to distinguish yourself accept more payments than just bitcoin maybe paypal (GAW's model). Third I would like some more transparency such as showing your mining address for a week or so. The BTCguild few minute thing does not prove anything. Show us a week's worth or real time mining and it would definitely help. +1 i must say i even lost my googleauth and managed to get my account back in not even 24h. they are very responsive. so im with you on that havelock, i think it is impossible (if not unnecessary) nowadays to compel whatsoever to any traditional juridiction when talking bitcoin securities (and especially not the us) although i would appreciate more clarity on your moving from canada to panama, teams, future plans etc.. (noob stuff also, but i'd appreciate an improved GUI, + all the securities trade history ^^) it seems bitcoin is about trust afterall, or at least in these early days. but you better not screw me  this are all good points and i could not have said it better. Now since we have havelock in the house, i wouold like to ask when are you all going to add 2FA SMS text verification some of us dont have apps for codes or simply dont want them and preffer text codes to cell phones. Also please add more amhash to sell from havelock directly. |
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My best advice for new users regarding cloud mining is to be very careful. Most, if not all, of these cloud mining sites are either scams or money losers.
Keep these in mind if you are considering cloud mining:
1. A cloud mining site is a prime opportunity for a Ponzi scheme. Customers pay a bunch of money up front and don't expect a profit for several months.
2. "Instant mining" sites don't make sense because the operator makes more money if they don't sell their hashing power to you.
3. The rising difficulty means your hash power will earn less and less over time.
4. Maintenance fees are usually more expensive than they seem. The maintenance fee could exceed your mining revenue in just a few months.
5. Cloud mining contracts that start in the future must be valued using the future difficulty, and not the current difficulty.
Good advices. You might like to improve your site with more information. www.cmmonitor.com has done a great job at ranking various cloud mining services. May like to use it as a reference. That site a just a list of cloud miners (most of which will probably be ponzis) with the sites referral id in the links to the websites. Essentially, that site is just trying to cash in on referrals. lol that just makes it sad if the website is " trying to help " people make the right choices. Then they have a link to each site / store but they have referral ids in all the links so if you do sign up even if its bad they get credit for it. I tell you hard to find a site that gives reviews and they get nothing out of it. The site offers a free service that you can chose not to use. it is true they might offer free service to users but they themself benefit from it as others have said. Also we all know some neebies might see the sight as a 100% safe list and just jump on it without asking for any opinions or reading anywhere for any facts at all.    |
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Today's dividend is 0.00000807 per share.
We are selling AMHash on hashie.co now.
Yes we know you have it on hashie but what about for those that only want to buy on havelock. Are you all going to be offering more amhash there  We are going to improve the promotion ways of AMHash, any suggestions? Sure, I have a few suggestions for you guys: Don't be offended by this, but the English on your website is pretty bad. I know its because English isn't your first language, but it looks a bit unprofessional (and it's hard to read). Consider hiring a native english speaker to rewrite the page, and it will make you guys look a lot more credible. I've also seen no advertising for AMHash outside of this forum. Try advertising on reddit, targeting the /r/bitcoin and /r/bitcoinmining communities. You might pick up some people that way, and I don't think reddit advertising is that expensive. I'm not sure if you've done it yet, but also try running a signature campaign on bitcointalk--it might help a bit. i agree with this options to make it better. I also agree with the recomendations on post after this one that i am replying to i just did not want to quote the 2 seperate posts with pretty much the same information to lazy for that lol. If you going to start a signature campaign let me know as i dont know how long my current promotion i am doing now is going for with other company. |
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If you have paid miners and sell them in the market can you still withdraw the payouts on the free miner if the free miner is the only one you have left?
No. You need to have a active paid miner so i guess if you are planing of selling miners for whatever reason i guess you best take out all bitcoin out. Then it leaves the problem of having to make second withdraw for the sale proceeds of the miners you sell. Ofcourse if you only selling part of the miners and keeping some then should be ok on btc withdrawls.  |
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you are always going to have people question any company no matter what. I still see people question cex.io even though they been around for many years and have hundreds of thousands of customers day in day out. So i think best you can do is provide proof of fresh mined coins on block chain. Also since now people going to kill the photos you can submit like a 20- 40 second video walking through your farm while eating a ice cream cone or drinking a soda. |
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took a closer look and guess what I noticed.. the photos posted by bitcoincloudservices.com are FAKE!!! obviously they look sterile because it's a 3D image.. lol 3d photoshop that is something new and creative. They do deserve some credit for the fake photos you claim. I mean come one most people will say no but they created something that looks so futuristic and almost looks as clean as a hospital. I do agree though it is hard to find good services this days |
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Today's dividend is 0.00000807 per share.
We are selling AMHash on hashie.co now.
Yes we know you have it on hashie but what about for those that only want to buy on havelock. Are you all going to be offering more amhash there |
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i will make it formal i will accept bet saying dificulty in 6 days will NOT go up. I say will be below the 0% might even drop even if it is only like 0.01% it is still a drop. I dont think we need no escrow for a 0.1 BTC bet lol i think we both can be honest and open in front of everyone here. Let me know if you officially accept this bet since i know you betting for increase of difficulty. To avoid any confussion or loopholes looser has to pay winner within 3 days of difficulty change.
I'm glad I got the bet first! Wait so puppet already made the bet with you? If he did i guess i lost chance to place bet unless they want to do to bets and have chance to win .2 BTC total or loose .2 btc total between you and me. I hope he responds to me soon so i can know for sure one way or the other  |
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No matter what's bet you are going to do, the slower of difficulty climbing up, the higher ROI you will get from AMHash. So, bet on higher difficulty will be better, when you lose bet ,you can get more profits from you investment in AMHash . Thats assuming one is invested in amhash. Im not Besides, this bet is just for fun. I may very well lose it, but its not like that would bankrupt me and I doubt roadstress sees it as a hedge for his shares. The bet itself also has nothing directly to do with amhash. Winning it or losing it doesnt say anything about its long term profitability. For the record: I dont believe amhash will prove profitable in the long run, as its a bet on <4% growth per difficulty adjustment, but I also have no problem admitting I dont know a better offer on the (cloud mining) market right now. i will make it formal i will accept bet saying dificulty in 6 days will NOT go up. I say will be below the 0% might even drop even if it is only like 0.01% it is still a drop. I dont think we need no escrow for a 0.1 BTC bet lol i think we both can be honest and open in front of everyone here. Let me know if you officially accept this bet since i know you betting for increase of difficulty. To avoid any confussion or loopholes looser has to pay winner within 3 days of difficulty change. Still waiting for acceptance of this bet if you want puppet, nothing special is needed just put you accept bet |
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I was talking about crypto as a whole, it will either die a fad or go mainstream
and what part of me being able to buy a coffee in my local cafe - with Bitcoin - is not already mainstream? BTC is already mainstream, it is merely the greed which people hide behind that insists on them wanting more. Josh insists that his shitcoin is going to put cryptocurrency into the mainstream. I say, he trying to sell a clone of something which already has such successes. from what I gather, the Paycoin protocol is a simple ripoff of the Mastercoin protocol. there is nothing new here. However, I did not know that it BFL was under criminal charges, this is news to me, and the same, with MtGox. I had thought they were under civil indictments. Perhaps sometimes, when you live in a land which confuses criminality with civil complaint, it's easy to make that mistake. "I can't breathe" It isn't mainstream, I wouldn't say in mainstream until at least we get into the paypal area of use. I understand your local coffee shop accepts it but Starbucks, dunkin dnuts , panera, lilly, tully's, Tim Hortons, Caribou coffee, The coffee bean, and Costa Coffee don't. Do you see where I am going with this? Yes were past the unknown stage but nowhere near main stream use and it isn't for being greedy it so we can have a time in a couple years where i can pay my bills in bitcoin and shop in bitcoin directly. A dual fiat/crypto economy. Fair enough, and forgive me if you felt i was insinuating that you were greedy in any way, this was not my intent. I do think that there is a long way to go before we see mass acceptance, but I'm not sure it will ever be in my lifetime. I am confident that it will happen, but there is - fortunately for those of us on the greyer side of the barber seat, something slightly encouraging that small retailers are happy to accept Bitcoin. It's enough for me, and it's a starting block to build on. Every day the technology behind Bitcoin in improving and there are easier ways to use it as a spendable currency. Understanding is another obstacle which needs to be overcome, and simply designing a clone, or piggy-backing on an already designed protocol to create a competitor to Bitcoin is in no way going to help cryptocurrencies in any way. Instead of trying to out-Bitcoin Bitcoin, GAW should have concentrated on building what is already available. The Mastercoin protocol is a great idea for things like loyalty coupons and company-specific rewards programs, but to try and start from scratch, something new which they think will outperform the 'old original' is very narrow minded, and will do more harm, than good. Again, speaking personally, i'm quite content at where BTC is at the moment - the price is good - the availability of it is good - and my undetstanding of it (though not total) is also good enough for me. For that reason, i'm going to stick with what I have 1BTC = 1BTC but 1PAYCOIN = 1GAWPROFIT and not much else. I totally agree but I think GAW isn't just doing this as a short term profit maker, I think there idea is if they can create a coin that is tied to their company (still open source) they can have all the third parties run though them making them the profit (such as the debit card instant exchange fee, the fees for buying and selling on Paybase, and other utilities). They didn't make the coin to profit off it directly but to be a sort of monopoly of fees on the uses, they could have done this with bitcoin but there are too many other companies that would make it hard for them to compete and they wouldn't be able to make the profits they could with Paycoin. This is why i don't see Gaw as scamming people (this is my personal view) they're spending too much building and developing the coin to reap long term benefits and work over ton of cash, they aren't going to screw it up for 1000btc even. I tell people to diversify and that's what I am doing because keeping all your eggs in one basket is too risky. yeah, i'm not usually so against entrepreneurial endeavours, it's good to see new businesses evolve in the crypto-world, however... the one word that gives me the heebie-jeebies in your comment is 'monopoly'. For that single reason, which is evidently the purpose of GAW, it's not something that I would consider, and for that reason alone, is why I will continue to actively persuade people not to put money into this. It flies in the face of everything that cryptocurrencies stand for. you are 100% right buddy! if there is going to be a monopoly in crypto currencies then there is no point to adopt crypto currencies. just stick with our bank !! I know right i would just stay with my bank atleast i know where to go and have some security. Imagine bitcoin being a monopoly i am sorry sir you are overdrawn by 0.000002 btc you got to pay over draft charge of 0.001 btc for each day you are negative balance |
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so which place would it be cheaper and better to buy at havelock or hashie?
seems like at store from hashie i can get at .0012 but havelock its .00124x
are the dividends exactly the same so far?
how bout where on hashie it shows where users can sell there hashrate, is anyone there selling for a better deal? i dont understand their price there.
thanks
The dividends are different between two platforms for different payment time. HEY AMHASH are you all going to offer like amhash3 as other people are saying or is this not true. What happens if we dont want to buy from outside havelock website. I am just wondering thanks for information ahead of time. |
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Thank you for your support! What rates do you guys expect from us on Bitcoin Black Friday sale? for black friday i will take 100GHS for free or more permanent lol feel free to send me voucher code to inbox. Well thanks in advance no im off for some dinner be back later wating for the gift in my inbox |
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This joke being buyable at .008 yet ?
NOPE this joke is now at .00126 i wish i had bought more when it was 0.00118 but oh well what can i do about it. No point in ceying over spilled milk i suppose |
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so which place would it be cheaper and better to buy at havelock or hashie?
seems like at store from hashie i can get at .0012 but havelock its .00124x
are the dividends exactly the same so far?
how bout where on hashie it shows where users can sell there hashrate, is anyone there selling for a better deal? i dont understand their price there.
thanks
this is what i have on there as test and this is what i am getting paid out. This is from todays email they send me email every day well they email me for everything lol but look below. You have received a dividend payment from fund: AMHASH1 Your Units: 451 Dividend: 0.00000813BTC/unit Total Dividend: 0.00366663BTC hope this helps Who is the e-mail from; Hashie or Havelock? this is from havelock, sorry thought i copy the whole email on here lol my bad. |
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so which place would it be cheaper and better to buy at havelock or hashie?
seems like at store from hashie i can get at .0012 but havelock its .00124x
are the dividends exactly the same so far?
how bout where on hashie it shows where users can sell there hashrate, is anyone there selling for a better deal? i dont understand their price there.
thanks
this is what i have on there as test and this is what i am getting paid out. This is from todays email they send me email every day well they email me for everything lol but look below. You have received a dividend payment from fund: AMHASH1 Your Units: 451 Dividend: 0.00000813BTC/unit Total Dividend: 0.00366663BTC hope this helps |
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My last payout on 51.5 GH/s hashing power (10 GH/s was free) I am being paid 0.00064098 - 0.00028175 maint. fee for a total of 0.00035923 the last 24 hour period. The payout before maintenance is more than the theoretical return on the calculator but the electricity (maintenance) fee takes about 44% of daily earning. My electricity cost where I live is about 50% on my Antminer S3 so Hashie's returns are quite acceptable if they continue as is. This result was a typical daily result. Some days are slightly less and some days are slightly more.
that seems to be in line with what i am getting. So to person who asked there you have it the short sweet answer without me having to do the leg work lol. |
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