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1801  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Difference between Bitcoin and real money? on: November 29, 2016, 09:44:51 AM
To put thing simple we use real money every day and we cannot (still we cant use it) bitcoin. There are some exceptions but for now thing are as they are. Still if we want to spend bitcoin most of us here change that to real money reason there are not so many shops/stores that can accept bitcoin (in my country not a single one we had one atm but that was broken).

Unfortunately we need still real money in case cuz 99% of every day purchase we do with real money so this may be simple answer for now.
1802  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Will a government sponsored blockchain ever work? on: November 29, 2016, 09:27:14 AM
This is divided opinion on some articles that i read on net and what i have read here on forum.

Some say it is good some that is bad other that it wont happen this is in progress but will it come to be reality is something completely different.
Some government in some countries are trying to implement application areas for the blockchain, Other are truing to create there own crypto.

From what i have read so far i found i will share. Estonia established an e-residency program, Sweden is planning to place real estate transactions on the blockchain so that all parties involved in the transactions – banks, government, brokers, buyers and sellers and they also planning to create there own cryptocurrency, United Kingdom (UK) is exploring the use of a blockchain to manage the distribution of grants. Monitoring and controlling the use of grants is incredibly complex, and subject to potential fraud or abuse.

This is only something that i have found and i believe that we will see this in motion but not that soon, perhaps in 10 or 15 years this will be in bigger use but for now it will be like it.

To governments, the only benefit from blockchain I could imagine is its anti-tampering feature. Governments want to control currencies and other records so it makes little sense for them to switch to decentralized system.

The benefit of a decentralized system, will be that it would increase the security. We have already seen government sanctioned hacks between countries, so a decentralized system will make it harder for countries to hack their financial systems.

The most important benefit for them are actually the control that a system like this, would grant them. They will have total control over the flow of money, if it was a private <permissioned> Blockchain, where they control the development. They can manipulate the amount of currency in circulation without public consensus and they can follow all transactions. < They do not have this with fiat cash >

Let's hope this never happens and it stays public.

to be honest i hope so to still we us individual can change much from any perspective and like @devthedev mentioned in post above "The government breaks most things it's involved in", this line is 100% true maybe in just maybe in few governments its not but this is main problem
1803  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Portuguese League Prediction Thread (Primeira Liga) on: November 29, 2016, 07:51:19 AM
MATCH DATE 03.12.2016. (2nd)

Match: FC Porto vs Sporting Braga
Betting option: Both Teams to Score YES
Odd: 2.10
Stake: 0.015 BTC (15 mBTC)
Return: 0.03150 BTC (31.50 mBTC)

EVENT CAN BE FOUND HERE: https://sportsbet.io/sports/pre-live/soccer/portugal/primeira-liga/fc-porto-v-sporting-braga/event/9788785?ref=tipster9



Why did i pick this match
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I last several meeting from these teams ended with goals winner will be hard to pick both team are on top of table but little better is Braga at the moment. Previous meeting never ended without goals so expect that this one will be the same

1804  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: November 29, 2016, 07:30:51 AM
When I gamble i use faucet and I play on higher chance to win bigger like example if i have 0.05 btc I try to double with playing 0.01 btc on 66% chance until I get 0.1 btc I think that this method is better than using method like playing on 10% 0.01 btc but I prefer more only faucet gambling to not lose own money Cheesy

It is right, also it is more than better to lose our amount. But you know many people not do faucet, because they think it is time wasting and also many people don't know about it, Because we can do faucet in only online gambling, but in live gambling, we should mustily use our money.

But using faucet gambling is not guaranteed, it can give you free amount start to gamble. But in the end, you will just end up to losing.

And you just wasted your time for using faucets so for me that is not that smart but good strategy.

If you think that strategy is good for you then you can just keep on working with that strategy for we have our very own strategies.

wasting time with faucet with some dice site is just waste of time
smart way of playing is only with card games in my opinion and if you have opportunity to play with some opponents live then its even better cuz in card games you have better odds by me and you can play smart

dice games and casino (roulet and slot) are more of luck on winning rather then smart playing
i saw here and read here lot of systems but that is really worked or you deposit 5 times 0.1 and return once 0.3
if that is the case then you lost 0.2 (you, me anyone)

i bet on sport from time to time better that way, but still think that only in card games live can be played smart
1805  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: ALTCOINS signature campains list [UPDATE 02.11.2016.] on: November 29, 2016, 07:20:01 AM

Inchain ico finished and they are refunding the money.

https://medium.com/@inchain

update

added and removed some campaigns also some returning campaigns are on the list
1806  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Portuguese League Prediction Thread (Primeira Liga) on: November 28, 2016, 06:42:27 PM
MATCH DATE 03.12.2016. (1st)

Match: Rio Ave FC v CD Tondela
Betting option: Rio Ave FC WIN
Odd: 1.80
Stake: 0.015 BTC (15 mBTC)
Return: 0.02700 BTC (27.00 mBTC)

EVENT CAN BE FOUND HERE: https://sportsbet.io/sports/pre-live/soccer/portugal/primeira-liga/rio-ave-fc-v-cd-tondela/event/9788775?ref=tipster9



Why did i pick this match
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Is last game for RIo was just some last moves or the form is back for them again i will go for win on them they play Tondela who won last game with big surprise but i think that here they will have little chances
1807  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BitCoin 20 Years From Now on: November 28, 2016, 01:07:26 PM
I am afraid to make any prognoses now. Twenty years seem so far. I suppose in twenty years bitcoin will still exist, but it will have some other form. I think in that time all crypto will be joined under some one name and that One crypto will be admitted by governments and banks as any other currency.
I agree with you, but I dont think that bitcon is going to exist in 20 years.
But if it is going to happen then the price is going to be very high to make it worth for miners to keep mining,at the worst scenerio,we will have another cryptocurrency that is going to rule over in 20 years.

i dont know about that government thing but to all cryptos put in one that is also hard to accomplish in any way
in 20 years bitcoin will evolve all cryptos will but we have now some progress that some governments want to implement this
will we have to wait for 20 year this is another questions but think that major thing will change in next halving by my opinion we will see lot of change in 2020 and see more this year as year of some bigger implementation and involvement of certain governments in this picture
1808  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Do you agree if coinbase/exchangers give the data of costumers to IRS/government on: November 28, 2016, 07:56:34 AM
We can say that we are again it all we want but there is very little we can do, if they have right they will have all information.

Actually coinbase it self against and dissagree, what was done by IRS and it is still in proggess on court, and there are many debates that will need much time. But the final answers is on court, and i think the data will be given to IRS are american costumers only, for other details can be checked on here.
 http://www.newsbtc.com/2016/11/27/irs-could-have-done-better/

I sure hope you are right im not US citizen and hope that this article is correct.

1809  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Will a government sponsored blockchain ever work? on: November 28, 2016, 07:48:23 AM
This is divided opinion on some articles that i read on net and what i have read here on forum.

Some say it is good some that is bad other that it wont happen this is in progress but will it come to be reality is something completely different.
Some government in some countries are trying to implement application areas for the blockchain, Other are truing to create there own crypto.

From what i have read so far i found i will share. Estonia established an e-residency program, Sweden is planning to place real estate transactions on the blockchain so that all parties involved in the transactions – banks, government, brokers, buyers and sellers and they also planning to create there own cryptocurrency, United Kingdom (UK) is exploring the use of a blockchain to manage the distribution of grants. Monitoring and controlling the use of grants is incredibly complex, and subject to potential fraud or abuse.

This is only something that i have found and i believe that we will see this in motion but not that soon, perhaps in 10 or 15 years this will be in bigger use but for now it will be like it.
1810  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: November 28, 2016, 06:56:16 AM
Final race was really boring. Hamilton was doing his best, but Vettel and Verstappen was to slow to overtake Rosberg. Rosberg deserved to win championship. Hamilton lost too much in first part of season.
In next season Ferrari and Red Bull need to make many improvements on their cars if they want to fight with Mercedes.
And it will be strange to see formula without oldscool guys Button and Massa.

can say that it wasn't like that cuz it was
Hamilton whit this tactics could use loot sooner last race was not the case (heavy rain) but race before he could use it in mexico to resolve winner
this was from Hamilton at least by me smartest driving in his carrier at first i was thinking that somehow RB and Ferrari have good car then i was wrong
i just can wait to see next season again with some new rules and regulations but i hope to see better driving from some teams and that some team will do better
1811  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: November 27, 2016, 03:08:22 PM
Full race results for the 21st round of the 2016 Formula 1 World Championship (F1), the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix at the Yas Marina Circuit.

1. Lewis Hamilton   GBR Mercedes-Mercedes   55 laps
2. Nico Rosberg   GER Mercedes-Mercedes   
3. Sebastian Vettel   GER Ferrari-Ferrari   
4. Max Verstappen   NED Red Bull-TAG Heuer   
5. Daniel Ricciardo   AUS Red Bull-TAG Heuer   
6. Kimi Raikkonen   FIN Ferrari-Ferrari   
7. Nico Hulkenberg   GER Force India-Mercedes   
8. Sergio Perez   MEX Force India-Mercedes   
9. Felipe Massa   BRA Williams-Mercedes   
10. Fernando Alonso   ESP McLaren-Honda   
11. Romain Grosjean FRA Haas-Ferrari   
12. Esteban Gutierrez MEX Haas-Ferrari   
13. Esteban Ocon   FRA MRT-Mercedes   
14. Pascal Wehrlein GER MRT-Mercedes   
15. Marcus Ericsson   SWE Sauber-Ferrari   
16. Felipe Nasr   BRA Sauber-Ferrari   
17. Jolyon Palmer   GBR Renault-Renault   

Not Classified

Carlos Sainz Jr   ESP Toro Rosso-Ferrari
Valtteri Bottas   FIN Williams-Mercedes   
Daniil Kvyat   RUS Toro Rosso-Ferrari
Kevin Magnussen   DEN Renault-Renault   
Jenson Button   GBR McLaren-Honda
1812  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: November 27, 2016, 03:07:13 PM
Today for match MNU -WHam will play win and over 2.5 goals on match.
Consider that MNU won in europe league last game i will play this on them today
1813  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Portuguese League Prediction Thread (Primeira Liga) on: November 27, 2016, 01:49:19 PM
MATCH DATE 27.11.2016. (7th)

Match: SL Benfica v Moreirense FC
Betting option: Goals home team 2
Odd: 3.60
Stake: 0.010 BTC (10 mBTC)
Return: 0.03600 BTC (36.00 mBTC)

EVENT CAN BE FOUND HERE: https://sportsbet.io/sports/pre-live/soccer/portugal/primeira-liga/sl-benfica-v-moreirense-fc/event/9788759?ref=tipster9



Why did i pick this match
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Benfica will win this match no question about it but i will play on goals for them and try to pick good for them/color]
1814  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Overview of Bitcointalk - COMPLETE AVATAR Campaigns [24-November-2016] on: November 26, 2016, 04:30:11 PM
New Signature and Avatar campaign with a nice avatar: BitConnect Coin Signature & Avatar Campaign
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1692930.0

Updated
1815  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The danger of the cyptocurrencies on: November 26, 2016, 01:54:41 PM
I feel more dangerous are your altcoins which comes for few days/months and then will go to almost zero value. People invest considering a huge return possible and may get it in short time but if you see in long run not many are established or exists which started 2 years or 1 year before.

from all altcoin on the market every now and then only few survives the openings and remain to be stable and good with good support
only few coin are here that can be on this list some are here for long others are here for some smaller time but still are good and got good community and support
1816  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAME][LAUNCHED]famecoin - viral photo sharing on Blockchain with tippings. on: November 26, 2016, 01:52:17 PM
How this is complete
went smooth with no trouble at all

question still remain how to collect for all i mean sig avatar twitter translate articles
can someone post here
1817  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: November 26, 2016, 01:46:04 PM
From some mine experience i mean i dont gamble that much place few bets on sport but best is to play poker with friend
Read them look at faces this is my experience we never did play in big money we have chips and the loser pay diner once a month nothing big just for fun

Think that only poker and blackjack can be play on smart way roulette is always house win to big odds on house
1818  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Portuguese League Prediction Thread (Primeira Liga) on: November 26, 2016, 01:29:44 PM
MATCH DATE 27.11.2016. (6th)

Match: CD Tondela v Vitoria Guimaraes
Betting option: Vitoria Guimaraes WIN
Odd: 2.10
Stake: 0.015 BTC (15 mBTC)
Return: 0.03150 BTC (31.50 mBTC)

EVENT CAN BE FOUND HERE: https://sportsbet.io/sports/pre-live/soccer/portugal/primeira-liga/cd-tondela-v-vitoria-guimaraes/event/9788769?ref=tipster9



Why did i pick this match
---------------------------
Tondela is last team in league and they dont play as they expected on other side Guimaraes is performing good this season and they are in good form. Bet is for Guimaraes to win
1819  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: TV series and Bitcoin: the debunking thread on: November 25, 2016, 11:26:13 AM
Remember two more series that were mentioned with this one is House of Cards 2 season 2 episode was where it was mentioned about bitcoin and deep web, other is i can say for sure was it original NCIS or NCIS LA where there were also mentioned bitcoin and deep web as well here.

Edit for my previous mentioned for Almost Human it was episode 6 i have then all i just look to see which episode was. And i also think that is was mentioned in Simpsons and South Park but will check this to be sure can say it cuz i cant remember
1820  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: November 25, 2016, 09:19:54 AM
I do not consider same because their different ways of losing in the sense that in gambling the chances of me losing is higher which could also be unfair, even after the "provably fair" slogan and I could not verify or I'm not even sure of that unlike trading when I lose, then I know I'm not the only in the box and I can even win back my losses overnight unlike gambling...
Yes the possibility of gaining back loses is much clearer rather than gambling that will only allow you to keep losing more and more while you are very eager to bounce back unlike trading after sudden loss opportunity to hold or opportunity regain the price always higher if you supported known project.

that's right. i think the only similarity between gambling and trading is the risk you put in the onset. but if you analyze it, it's normal to lose when trading but you are,in a way, aware of how to get back those losses since trading requires study of movements of coins. wherein gambling, you have to still hope that you'd be lucky enough to regain your losses if you lose and the chances of that happening if pretty slim compared to when you do trading
They are really the same in terms of risk of lossing money but they differ on how you gonna lessen the risk involving it. As you mentioned on trading we could definitely minimize it by having more knowledge on trading and some skills needed unlike on gambling which you really purely rely on luck in able to win but there are games that still need skills and experience like sports bet but they are just the same though.

risk is resent all day if we look in that direction
every actions and every step have some risk or consequences
will this be trading or gambling that is not the point
gambling is win - lose all the way trading is different from all perspectives
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