Or even better, post pics of the damn PCBs!  If you had a machine that was generating BTC1 every 2 hours, would you take it apart to take pictures of it?  No, but if I was chosen to receive one of the first units on the assumption that I'd be reviewing it, with a whole community waiting and holding their breath, I'd at least take ONE of the 3 cards out for a few hours to examine it  |
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Batch two has been postponed as of now, stay tuned today for major updates. This gives a chance for more people to acquire bitcoins for the order, it will be at least 24 hours from now before order, but I do not expect the delay to extend past this week.
On the bright side, BTC value is going up = cheaper rigs! |
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Or even better, post pics of the damn PCBs! |
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If BFL can hit even close to 1W/Gh efficiency, and fit a whopping 60Gh into the that small sandwich box, then I'll be replacing any Avalons I have with BFLs. After the customer service ordeal with Avalon's Batch 2, I really don't want to deal with them if I have an alternative. I just wish BFL offered standalone units for under $2k  |
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Avalon ASIC | ASICs on time; Business done right.
Dear ---@---,
Second Batch
Second batch's order time have been postponed, stay tuned today major updates.
Thanks for the 5 minute heads-up, trolls. |
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I used to work at a tech company for a boss who was famous within the company for his slogan "Ship it!". He'd say it, and we'd do it.
We shipped some hacked-together shit, and boy it's a good thing we did. In retrospect, "ship it" was absolutely the right decision to have made every time. It was far better to get something out the door that halfway worked, and to fix it better later than to delay and have nothing out there while we tried and tried again for perfection.
This went double for the confidence of our customers. They by far preferred to see us doing something and getting something into their hands, even if it was hacked.
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Are you saying that the Avalon ASIC is "hacked-together shit" that only "halfway work(s)" shipped out just to "getting something into [the customers'] hands" ?? That sounds about right, but it's still the best (first) ASIC "on the market".  |
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Crunching some power consumption numbers here and a little skeptical at BFL's specs showing 1W/Gh, considering Avalon gets about 6W/Gh 9.4 W/Gh.
Anyone here familiar enough with chip design to weight in on this?
EDIT: Looks like Avalon falsified their real world numbers on their site, even after the fist machine was already in customers' hands. They updated them to "reflect customers' experience" to 620w for a 66Gh/s rig.
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Somewhere, someone is hashing in his pants |
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Oh shit it's goin' down! Jesus, Jesus, damn bootleg ASICs!   |
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So, we have a problem. Avalon need the money before this weekend starts to place orders for the parts. [...] The following is the no bullshit, no fine print terms of sales for Avalon batch #2. - Bitcoin Only - Batch #2 of Avalon will only accept bitcoins. Only Bitcoin will allow us to move half a million USD in a few hours into places they are suppose to go to. [...]
- No Refunds - [...] this allows proper financial management, eliminate back-orders and improve overall efficiency and workflow on how we work. How else did you expect us to produce a functional ASIC unit in the same length of time a competitor has been delayed?
- No Proof - [...] we seldom will release any information. We will instead focusing more on killer features, some of which is already hidden in our unit. In this highly cutthroat competitive field, we do what we can to survive.
I applaud every potential customer to think over this carefully, and make the decision seem right to you, and only you. Although I must say: life isn't about "making sure" but rather "enduring the uncertainty". [...] It is hard not to get mad. However, I must warn you, don't place trust in the wrong people and what they tell you; [...] Be ready to take the spear to the chest as you were their spoke person. [...] Re-read this and holy shit does it reak like a classic Nigerian swindle. |
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i say do both. two games. one permanent, one that resets. thus people who want to can knowingly take the big risks, and those who just want a game can have that too.
Call it the Bitcoin Crystal, those things shatter all the time. |
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they've gone from bumping from "By end of next month at the latest" to "By end of next week at the latest".
I'm betting they use the "next week" line to transition into "next month".
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Not that it's my business of course, but it still pains me to see dumb people do dumb things, especially when it's easily preventable.  Can... can smart people do dumb things? |
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After all this I've decided I'm sick of the nonsense and I'm starting my own unicorn ASIC company.
With hookers? And blackjack? |
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You may likely gain more value from just holding on to $1500.00 worth of BTC in the next few months. +1 More value, but not more BTC. |
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How the fuck can you take orders for batch #2, when no one even has their orders from batch #1  |
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My bet would be on a fast sell-out of batch 2, regardless.
Maybe there is no upper limit. So customers think there is a cap at 600, but in reality, because there is no product, it is limitless. Exactly. They can just put up a pre-order site that will take bitcoins indefinitely. |
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So... don't pre-order from Batch #2 until there is evidence of working devices.
That is my plan at least... no one HAS to order anything...
Although I must say: life isn't about "making sure" but rather "enduring the uncertainty". |
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Prove me wrong Avalon.
Oh, they don't have time for that |
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No shipping/tracking information has been sent to me, privately or publicly, as of this writing.
No private communications since Jan 20.
Forum readers know as much as I know, at this point.
For the record, at this time, I do not think Avalon or BFL are scams.
Have I been browsing the wrong forum or something? |
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