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9641  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Avalon ASIC] Batch #2 pre-Sale Thread on: January 29, 2013, 03:54:44 PM

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Wow... No Way ..

In before Seems Legit or anything like this:



9642  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [70 GH/s] BTCOxygen.com - Pure PPS | Stratum Support | Low Fee on: January 28, 2013, 09:38:32 PM
Manual and Auto payout are both broken.

Wish I'd noticed before the price spike today.   Cry
9643  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-1-28 zerohedge.com—Is The ECB Responsible For The Second Coming Of BitCoin? on: January 28, 2013, 09:08:12 PM
And the comments again:

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WARNING: Bitcoin is a SCAM. Bitcoin is an idiotic experiment which proves that a non-centrally planned currency is simply unfeasible. Bitcoin is highly corruptible as it is 100% computerized, unregulated and unmanaged. What if somebody cracks the code to your wallet? What if the code breaks? Libertardians never consider intricate details like this because they are too simplistic. The libertarian dream of perfectly functioning ‘free markets’ is a ridiculous fantasy. The only way to ensure peace and happiness is to delegate responsibility to democratically elected politicians with the skills, experience and education to manage complex social and economic issues.
Poe's law

Poe's law FTW.  What a perfect send-up of the anti-bitcoin asshamsters!

This meta-troll does a magnificent job parodying the idiotic ranting of the typical Slashdot/DailyKos gun-gold-and-libertarian-hating, Obama-voting buffoon.   Cheesy

He constantly does this at ZeroHedge, except with gold and silver instead of Bitcoin.  He never breaks character, despite laying it on a tad too thick today.   

Nuff respect!   Cool
9644  Other / Off-topic / Re: God I hate the British on: January 28, 2013, 08:47:18 PM
Um sorry theymos. Little guns wont stop military from killing you... Just let me remind you of Soviets. Ukranians even had well armed militia, which got wiped out pretty quickly by NKVD. And that's back when the military didn't have the toys they have now.

Fee-fi-fo-fum,
I hear the bleating of a sheeple man,
Be he live, or be he dead
Kings grind his bones to make their bread


WHAT GOOD IS A HANDGUN AGAINST AN ARMY?
http://www.jeffhead.com/liberty/handgun.htm
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Most military questions have both a strategic and a tactical component. Let's consider the tactical.

A friend of mine owns an instructive piece of history. It is a small, crude pistol, made out of sheet-metal stampings by the U.S. during World War II. While it fits in the palm of your hand and is a slowly-operated, single-shot arm, it's powerful .45 caliber projectile will kill a man with brutal efficiency. With a short, smooth-bore barrel it can reliably kill only at point blank ranges, so its use requires the will (brave or foolhardy) to get in close before firing. It is less a soldier's weapon than an assassin's tool. The U.S. manufactured them by the million during the war, not for our own forces but rather to be air-dropped behind German lines to resistance units in occupied Europe. Crude and slow (the fired case had to be knocked out of the breech by means of a little wooden dowel, a fresh round procured from the storage area in the grip and then manually reloaded and cocked) and so wildly inaccurate it couldn't hit the broad side of a French barn at 50 meters, to the Resistance man or woman who had no firearm it still looked pretty darn good.

The theory and practice of it was this:

   
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First, you approach a German sentry with your little pistol hidden in your coat pocket and, with Academy-award sincerity, ask him for a light for your cigarette (or the time the train leaves for Paris, or if he wants to buy some non-army-issue food or a half- hour with your "sister"). When he smiles and casts a nervous glance down the street to see where his Sergeant is at, you blow his brains out with your first and only shot, then take his rifle and ammunition. Your next few minutes are occupied with "getting out of Dodge," for such critters generally go around in packs. After that (assuming you evade your late benefactor's friends) you keep the rifle and hand your little pistol to a fellow Resistance fighter so they can go get their own rifle.

    Or maybe you then use your rifle to get a submachine gun from the Sergeant when he comes running. Perhaps you get very lucky and pickup a light machine gun, two boxes of ammunition and a haversack of hand grenades. With two of the grenades and the expenditure of a half-a-box of ammunition at a hasty roadblock the next night, you and your friends get a truck full of arms and ammunition. (Some of the cargo is sticky with "Boche" blood, but you don't mind terribly.)

    Pretty soon you've got the best armed little maquis unit in your part of France, all from that cheap little pistol and the guts to use it. (One wonders if the current political elite's opposition to so-called "Saturday Night Specials" doesn't come from some adopted racial memory of previous failed tyrants. Even cheap little pistols are a threat to oppressive regimes.)
They called the pistol the "Liberator." Not a bad name, all in all.

Now let's consider the strategic aspect of the question, "What good can a handgun do against an army....?" We have seen that even a poor pistol can make a great deal of difference to the military career and postwar plans of one enemy soldier. That's tactical. But consider what a million pistols, or a hundred million pistols (which may approach the actual number of handguns in the U.S. today), can mean to the military planner who seeks to carry out operations against a populace so armed. Mention "Afghanistan" or "Chechnya" to a member of the current Russian military hierarchy and watch them shudder at the bloody memories. Then you begin to get the idea that modern munitions, air superiority and overwhelming, precision-guided violence still are not enough to make victory certain when the targets are not sitting Christmas- present fashion out in the middle of the desert.

9645  Other / Off-topic / Re: God I hate the British on: January 28, 2013, 06:12:31 PM
Fuck England, but let's not say anything bad about Scotland.   Wink



9646  Other / Off-topic / Re: Ortiz set out to destroy more american citizens. on: January 27, 2013, 07:06:55 AM
Thank you again for the update.  So glad to hear that incompetent cunt got smacked down in court.

Were I the hotel owner or a surviving relative of Swartz, I would have sufficient standing to go after her bar card.

It wouldn't be easy, but discovery is a powerful tool. 

Prosecutorial immunity is not absolute.  Just ask old Mike Nifong!   Wink
9647  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Dwolla Begins Paypal-Style Account Suspensions on: January 27, 2013, 06:53:36 AM
In the long run Bitcoin as a disruptive technology is just as harmful to Dwolla profit model as it is to PayPal's.

Dwolla had a golden opportunity to play Trainman, ferrying money back and forth between our world (the Matrix) and the machine world.

But Dwolla is funded by venture capital, whose vast investments in regulatory capture are threatened by Bitcoin.

By siding with obsolete anti-consumer PayPal style technology and eschewing truly disruptive innovation, Dwolla relegates itself to unprofitable infamy.
9648  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: David Friedman and Bitcoin on: January 27, 2013, 05:20:23 AM
Fractional reserve banking. Fiat money. Central banking.

All key causes of the business cycle and its latest iteration. None result of "unregulated" markets, but rather of regulations designed to give banks special privilege.

Read about regulatory capture please...

Precisely. Unfortunately 21after2 is focusing on the symptoms instead of the actual problems hence his false diagnosis.

It's okay for us to have a difference of opinion. We can just call each other liars and be on our respective ways. Wink

The only legitimate regulators of markets are competition and the invisible hand. 

What part of "regulatory capture" do you find so hard to understand?

You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.

Here's How The Community Reinvestment Act Led To The Housing Bubble's Lax Lending
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2009-06-27/wall_street/30009234_1_mortgage-standards-lending-standards-mortgage-rates

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The CRA was not a static piece of legislation. It evolved over the years from a relatively hands-off law focused on process into one that focused on outcomes. Regulators, beginning in the mid-nineties, began to hold banks accountable in serious ways. Banks responded to this new accountability by increasing the CRA loans they made, a move that entailed relaxing their lending standards.

Throughout the nineties banks, as banks lowered their mortgage standards, mortgage rates remained high. The laxity was spreading but the incentives for borrowers to re-finance even under relaxed standards remained low. New buyers often still didn’t know that some of the loosey-goosey mortgages existed. Speculators had an internet bubble, so they weren’t yet attracted to real-estate. Treasury rates were not yet so low that investors seeking yield would pour into mortgage backed securities. Securitization levels were low enough that banks weren’t yet willing to fully embrace the loose standards. The historical data on default and loss rates from the lax lending were not yet available, so they weren’t embraced by banks or the broader market.

But as the years went by, these factors changed. The Fed pushed interest rates down. This made refinancing more attractive, and created an investor demand for yield. Fannie and Freddie popularized low-income securitization. Low defaults and loss rates from lax loans made them seem not as risky as previously expected.  A shrinking consumer asset base thanks to the dot com bust created a demand for home-equity loans and high loan-to-value loans, as consumers exchanged high-interest credit card debt for low interest home debt. Speculators seeking higher returns and ordinary home buyers became aware that lax lending standards would allow them to buy bigger homes with little or no money down.

In short, the lax lending standards created in response to the CRA had dug a pit that was waiting to get filled when the circumstances were right.


9649  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: World's First Bitcoin Lawsuit - Cartmell v. Bitcoinica on: January 27, 2013, 04:35:20 AM
Feel free to have a laugh at my expense.

OK, how's this?   Tongue

9650  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: David Friedman and Bitcoin on: January 24, 2013, 11:14:05 PM
Bitcoin and unregulated financial markets just leads to massive scamming.

Unlike our heavily over-regulated fiat trash based financial markets.  Oh wait, S&L crisis, dotcom bubble/crash, housing bubble/crash, bond bubble/crash. 

And Madoff, plus MF Global and LIBOR, etc. etc. etc.

Can't you go be a blithering statist in some other thread?   Cheesy
9651  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: David Friedman and Bitcoin on: January 24, 2013, 11:10:26 PM
Awesome!  DF is amazing, even if I don't think tiny isolated ancient Iceland is a good model for a global society with incomparably more people.

Bitcoin takes the machinery of freedom, and upgrades it to Star Trek.   Cool
9652  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: January 24, 2013, 03:23:35 AM
So you're saying it's a steal at $17.90 per coin? Grin
Well if $18 falls....

A mere 5k bull snack between here and $18.

9653  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: January 24, 2013, 12:43:43 AM
$17.95



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9654  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASIC from POLAND on: January 22, 2013, 10:20:44 PM
Please donate the .1BTC to GATA at 1GATA3hUsxq3DmAhpACBHvB4r7u32xBRur.

Thanks! 
9655  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASIC from POLAND on: January 22, 2013, 11:19:27 AM
keep it bro, no worries!  Good luck with your project.
9656  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASIC from POLAND on: January 21, 2013, 07:01:05 PM
Oh goody!  BTC0.1 sent!  TX# 8816829939f0061ef02827f25c534962887a869433d6d68dd76c791af63af502

How many jiggahash do I get?   Grin

I'm sure glad this "is not SCAM." 

9657  Economy / Economics / Re: What is bitcoin backed by? My favorite answers on: January 21, 2013, 06:51:10 PM
Gold can exist without Internet. Bitcoin can't.
Gold can exist without electricity. Bitcoin can't.
Gold can exist without humans. Bitcoin can't.
Gold doesn't depend on SHA 256 algorithm and how NSA breaks cryptographic algos. Bitcoin does.

"Value requires a valuer."  -J. Baird Callicott

"The concept ‘value’ is not a primary; it presupposes an answer to the question: of value to whom and for what?”  -Ayn Rand
9658  Economy / Economics / Re: What is bitcoin backed by? My favorite answers on: January 21, 2013, 06:42:36 PM
Nice suggestions here, but backing has a specific meaning regarding money, and bitcoin is not backed by anything. So drivel along, but use another word.

Actually backing's specific meaning (which you conspicuously fail to volunteer) has at least two separate connotations, internal and external.

You also fail to suggest which other word should be used instead.

And then there's this:

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Most Economically Illiterate Journalist In History Proposes “Gold is Backed by Nothing, but US Dollar Backed by Federal Reserve”
http://maxkeiser.com/2012/09/03/gold-backed-nothing/

Which tells us something about the POV your coming from.  Bridget Brown, is that you?   Grin
9659  Economy / Economics / Re: What is bitcoin backed by? My favorite answers on: January 21, 2013, 06:26:56 PM
I find that what one should see as ideal depends for some large part on the situation in which the currency is to be used.
Casinos have a different view on what is an ideal medium of exchange than, say, society as a whole.

So how do you define "ideal media of exchange" ?

The concept of "ideal" means completely removed from any particular situation.

From Merriam-Webster:
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1: existing as an archetypal idea
2a : existing as a mental image or in fancy or imagination only;

The word you should have used instead of "ideal" is 'optimal' (most desirable or satisfactory).  Big difference, as you've neatly demonstrated.

Anyway, I can't improve on Aristotle's definition of a good money (ie an ideal exchange medium). 

I'm just glad to see it instantiated in Bitcoin.  It's been a long wait for the Holy Grail of digital cash for us impatient fiat money haters.   Cool
9660  Economy / Economics / Re: What is bitcoin backed by? My favorite answers on: January 21, 2013, 06:13:15 PM
Oh I see, the problem is actually that you don't understand what the meaning of "being backed by" is.. Tell me, can I cash in my 1btc or 1gram of gold and get utility as ideal medium of exchange out of them? And how does utility as ideal medium of exchange look like?

valued properties != backing, mkay?

Sorry, my mistake.  It was Jutarul who is half right when he says Bitcoin doesn't have backing (because like gold, Bitcoin is backed purely by its own utility).

OTOH you are half wrong for

1) not understanding the subtle circular nature of an Aristotelian good money's self-backing properties, and

2) screaming at me in rage-font (for the offense of trying to teach you something).

Thus, you're completely wrong to assert (in big bossy letters) that "valued properties != backing," ignoring the fact that backing may be external or internal.


For X to be backed by Y, X must be guaranteed to be convertible to Y.

E.G. A gold standard, where a currency is guaranteed convertible to gold by the issuer of the currency. 

For Z to be backed by Z, Z must inherently posses valued properties.

E.G. Monetary PMs and Bitcoin.


Your silly question ("can I cash in my 1btc or 1gram of gold and get utility as ideal medium of exchange out of them?") amply demonstrates your lack of understanding the crucial distinction between extrinsic backing (via an artificial arrangement) versus intrinsic backing (via inseparable quintessential properties).

Your other silly question is not even a proper sentence.  Do try and proofread, especially when posting in a fit of pique.   Wink

And don't be so narrow-minded when it comes to the meanings of words.  Your linguistic rigidity is the source of your confusion. 

Words have radial definitions, especially phrases (such as "backed by") based on flexible spatial metaphors.
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