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1701  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG]Magi | 1st PoS-II | Fair Distr | Tor | M7M CPU only |New block reward on: September 25, 2014, 06:35:58 PM
What is your opinion about the following idea? We talked about it long time ago, but didn't push it further (had a discussion with Bojcha too):
modify the algo, keep it half-closed source, and pool setting a limit to the hashrate.

That was mine proposal for this hashrate limiting. If this 5 coin reward stays so and hashrate does not fall under 50MH/s, it will be needed much longer time to mine all coins. This can be double-edged sword for sure but it's possible. Here is how it should work, by also looking and learning on errors of other coins that used same thing.

- Source is (how i like to call it) half-closed, meaning olny dev, pools and exchange have source.
- wallet mining disabled
- pools limit hashrate
- pools need to have worker limit (1 worker) - if more PC's are in use, all can be pointed to 1 worker without problems.
- etc..

This way hashrate will be easy controlled and easy to follow by everyone. Everyone can follow blocks on pools so if some blocks are missed then someone is mining out of system. However when POS blocks starts in the middle of POW those block will be missed on pools ofc!

So what you all think?


Are those proposals a JOKE?


Bojcha is proposing an idea to make the coin be minable by most of people that will eliminate the 10-MHps miners;  some other coins already used this idea. Just a thought, would say, if more people follow, that will be something seriously to be taken, what would you say?
1702  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine on: September 25, 2014, 05:52:33 PM
diff still too high for the profit, probably only miners with super cheap electricity or no electricity(which mean stealing) at all are mining, the latter can mine forever if they roi'ed, lucky them

Sometimes things go towards the direction unexpected, likely reason could be that these miners put efforts into mining and consider it as a long term investment that turns out their faith in the coin. That's good anyway.
1703  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG]Magi | 1st PoS-II | Fair Distr | Tor | M7M CPU only |New block reward on: September 25, 2014, 02:45:01 PM

Website looks good.
Nice job Dev.

www.cryptomagic.com


Any reason why not magicoin.com?

hmm, dnt like the **coin** style, seems like I had different preference on the things, plus www.cryptomagic.com spent me 250 bucks Smiley

besides speaking what we like, how do you feel www.cryptomagic.com this domain
1704  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG]Magi | 1st PoS-II | Fair Distr | Tor | M7M CPU only |New block reward on: September 25, 2014, 02:38:53 PM
The fluctuation of hash rate is correlated with the average time to find a block. The faster a block is found means the higher the hash rate; however finding a block is a random process with many miners keep hashing to find the target number. The net hash rate should be stable on the whole, however if you look at block by block, then there is uncertainty in the block finding time, that correspondingly leads to jumping hash rate which is calculated based on the random block time.

Way better than my explanation, i did it a bit technical Grin

Sy, what is your opinion about the following idea? We talked about it long time ago, but didn't push it further (had a discussion with Bojcha too):
modify the algo, keep it half-closed source, and pool setting a limit to the hashrate.

I am pretty sure we won't touch the code neither right now nor in coming weeks; ... We won't change anything unless that is really a need by people in this community (sufficient agreements for sure).

@Bojcha, let's see if we can get enough votes on this option.
1705  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG]Magi | 1st PoS-II | Fair Distr | Tor | M7M CPU only |New block reward on: September 25, 2014, 05:34:28 AM

Take a screenshot of the screen, and publish the screenshot... Looks a bit better but this app is really good. I am a user of it.

I'm actually starting to respect CryptoNine.. first time using the exchange, and its already in this app, and its performing 100x better than cryptsy and bittrex. Plus interface is easy.

I don't have android phone so asked a friend to get a photo, looks like he doesn't know how to screen shot Smiley agree, cryptoine is a nice exchange.
1706  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG]Magi | 1st PoS-II | Fair Distr | Tor | M7M CPU only |New block reward on: September 25, 2014, 04:09:44 AM
Our website: www.cryptomagic.com

Bitcoin checker, check XMG price there:


Edit, RT: https://twitter.com/CoinMagi/status/514991661404155904
1707  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG]Magi | 1st PoS-II | Fair Distr | Tor | M7M CPU only |New block reward on: September 25, 2014, 03:36:47 AM
Can we all join forces of pushing out info about Magi all of the places we are at?
I'm talking about Chat Rooms and Troll Boxes - IRC and Web Pages... Twitter and Facebook and Reddit .. even around on Bitcointalk

We need the community to stick together on this and unite promotions. OP seems updated.

RT / RE-QUOTE Twitter Feeds from #CoinMagi https://twitter.com/hashtag/coinmagi?f=realtime&src=hash

Where to share links? Use these two places for example:
http://reddit.com/r/cryptocurrency and http://reddit.com/r/altcoin

We can also utilize other channels around Bitcointalk..

Alternative CryptoCurrencies section:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=67.0
Market Place for (Altcoins) section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=161.0
Mining for (Altcoins) section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=160.0

Use these images and graphics to share it around:
Album #1 for video with words: http://imgur.com/a/rpMuW
Album #2 for video with animations: http://imgur.com/a/Oa6A5

Learn more about magi here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpvpO0OE7Dw


Very handy info here.
1708  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: CPU Mining turns fair for individual miners on: September 24, 2014, 11:23:41 PM
Loved much this video, Magi is still rising, so far so good.
1709  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Selling 11930 Stellar on: September 24, 2014, 11:14:17 PM
I'll trade you for 5 XMG (Coin Magi) google it

guess some guys figured this out Wink
1710  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG]Magi | 1st PoS-II | Fair Distr | Tor | M7M CPU only |New block reward on: September 24, 2014, 11:13:41 PM
We're still on the rising! http://goo.gl/HRceS1 ; http://cryptoine.com/trade/xmg_btc  #CoinMagi #Magi #XMG @BittrexExchange

https://twitter.com/CoinMagi/status/514915211221151744

bump this tweet  Wink
1711  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG]Magi | 1st PoS-II | Fair Distr | Tor | M7M CPU only |New block reward on: September 24, 2014, 11:01:47 PM
apt-get install libgmp-dev
E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
....

forgot sudo:
sudo apt-get install libgmp-dev

Check the OP, the VPS section
1712  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG]Magi | 1st PoS-II | Fair Distr | Tor | M7M CPU only |New block reward on: September 24, 2014, 08:40:11 PM
Dev, what is difficulty depend on? It grow up and sometime go down...

I refer to Sy's post.
net hashrate is calculated by blocktime vs diff, if you got a fast block the net hashrate is high, like a lucky block in 20% of the expected time -> net hashrate +80%, next block is on time again so the net hashrate is back -80%, it always jumps all over the place short term.

Thank!! But I'm not clear,  can you explain it again?

I mean where is difficulty came from?

The fluctuation of hash rate is correlated with the average time to find a block. The faster a block is found means the higher the hash rate; however finding a block is a random process with many miners keep hashing to find the target number. The net hash rate should be stable on the whole, however if you look at block by block, then there is uncertainty in the block finding time, that correspondingly leads to jumping hash rate which is calculated based on the random block time.
1713  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG]Magi | 1st PoS-II | Fair Distr | Tor | M7M CPU only |New block reward on: September 24, 2014, 03:22:04 PM
Dev, what is difficulty depend on? It grow up and sometime go down...

I refer to Sy's post.
net hashrate is calculated by blocktime vs diff, if you got a fast block the net hashrate is high, like a lucky block in 20% of the expected time -> net hashrate +80%, next block is on time again so the net hashrate is back -80%, it always jumps all over the place short term.
1714  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG]Magi | 1st PoS-II | Fair Distr | Tor | M7M CPU only |New block reward on: September 24, 2014, 02:11:40 PM
hi guys!

found a short linux mining setup tutorial.

check it out here:
http://www.satoshis.guru/?p=130

That might be not enough. Might need some more libraries. As a total Linux newbie, I've gathered some feedback from community and Google. I may be overkilling but someone might find this useful:




for me this one worked well. i had some other altcoin wallets running on my linux and indeed only libgmp was missing Smiley
but your instructions will surely help some other guys with other setups

This git source as mentioned by tersagun is an optimized one,

https://github.com/noncepool/m7magi-cpuminer

You can try out both, and let us know the difference in your machine?

In a few last posts there were a lot optimizations going on windows; I wish we can see some optimizations for linux too. I have an AMD 8350 running in Xubuntu giving about 90 kh/s with 8 cores, while another people ran 6 cores getting 96 kh/s in Ubuntu. So there is a difference in different linux flavors for sure.
1715  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG]Magi | 1st PoS-II | Fair Distr | Tor | M7M CPU only |New block reward on: September 24, 2014, 07:16:26 AM
[Coin swap and brief of proof of mining campaign]

[Finalize] 10/07: Coin swap final, old Magicoin : XMG = 16 : 1, total swap coins no more than 10% of total coins in circulation, escrow will be used to hold unswapped coins: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=821170.msg9190490#msg9190490; unswapped coins (except some bounties we paid, like translation, video, etc) will be destroyed. I believe this is very much a guarantee for the miners/investors; more or less we have compromised prior holders benefits.

We offer an opportunity for prior magicoin holders; we leave out some funds/bounties for active members in the MagiCommunity. Contact me for discussion on the details.

Total swapped coins will be only 0.9% of total coin supply

Prior discussion has raised a request from our prior Magicoin holders with respect to coin swap. So here we are initating the swap. In addition to XMG swapping, we request prior Magicoin holders to allocate a portion of funds to support a proof of mining campaign, currently under planning. This campaign is to protect the network, and in the meantime reward miners for their efforts. As you all can see, we have been through various issues/complaints, though we are now at "safe", we are subject to miner leaving/low-block reward complaints too. Here, we kindly ask giveaway a portion of XMG coins to support our miners (CPU). I believe all Magicoin supporters understood the importance of the cpuminers; only with the reviving of XMG community comes with the best return to our prior holders.

Coin swap will be done approximately in 5 months, with 5% swapped each week. The precondition of carrying out coin swap is not giving impacts on the XMG price. We may pause swapping any time if we see price degradation due to coin swap.

How to swap

1) Send Magicoins to: MWhrAX6sC66361s2kt57CApxpSzEsCRznM
2) Fill out this form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1xfBW84n4Q3gJvhmC3YzYxafxoT0iA3Vb0o2g1-5ZOfA/viewform?usp=send_form
3) We will send out 5% equivalent XMG in a week, which further splits into few parts being sent a few times in a week long.

About coin swap

# Total number of coins to be swapped: 1,237,505 XMG
# Planned coins to swap in the following week: 5% of total, i.e., 61,875 XMG
# Swap ratio: 4 Magicoin : 1 XMG

As of this time there are more than 181,533 freshly minted coin. Swap coins to be sent in a week is about 34 % of coins in circulation.

Swap ratio
(let me know questions you may have regarding the ratio)

According to the total existing Magicoins are 4.5 million, the swap ratio should be 3.6363 Magicoin : 1 XMG. As you can see, we remain a portion of XMG to support the campaign. For this reason, we decide swap ratio: 4 Magicoin : 1 XMG. This yields 112,505 XMG unswapped, available to support proof of mining campaign.

Proof of mining campaign

The campaign is still under planning. Only CPU miners can participate this campaign. Each miner is responsible for contributing a number of hash rate to the network and should remain mining in a designated period. Each participant will receive a share of available funds (about 112,505 XMG right now form Magicoin holder's conntribution, plus 2K XMG donation (by Lionheart78)). Additional XMG funds may be available from unswapped coins.
1716  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG]Magi | 1st PoS-II | Fair Distr | Tor | M7M CPU only |New block reward on: September 24, 2014, 06:49:42 AM
I really do not see how this coin rewards the smaller miners. I myself being a small miner with only about 312khs worth of cpu power i still get alot and i mean ALOT less then people who has massive farms pulling 5-10mhs like seen on supernova's pool. So can someone please explain to me as to how XMG actually benifits smaller miners as the way its currently working does not really support that theory........

Understood this situation; that's really a challenge to get around this issue, same issue all other coins have. I've been trying thinking hard, really no direct way out (the reward system is not designed low all the time). What I don't understand is if a miner mines coin A is more profitable than mining coin B, why he stays mining coin B, even when he uses free electricity.

Edit, we are initiating a campaign to reward cpuminers, that may compensate some coins.
1717  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG]Magi | 1st PoS-II | Fair Distr | Tor | M7M CPU only |New block reward on: September 24, 2014, 05:48:29 AM
Cannot load my wallet.
It says "program not responding"

Any suggestions ??


Windows? Be sure backup your wallet (always), only thing you can do is to restart ..
1718  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG]Magi | 1st PoS-II | Fair Distr | Tor | M7M CPU only |New block reward on: September 24, 2014, 04:36:27 AM
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/magi/

1719  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG]Magi | 1st PoS-II | Fair Distr | Tor | M7M CPU only |New block reward on: September 24, 2014, 03:18:06 AM
But when PoW-II started?

Sorry a mistake, PoW-I stops at block 50000,  PoW-II starts at block 50001.
1720  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG]Magi | 1st PoS-II | Fair Distr | Tor | M7M CPU only |New block reward on: September 24, 2014, 02:21:15 AM
Still don't understand the block reward, how many coins per block now? And when PoW II? When change to Pos?

Why not list clearly on OP?
PoS will start at block 10080. PoW-I stops at block 50000.

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