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721  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: February 10, 2017, 07:51:44 AM
i scanned the white paper. but there is still one thing i don't get. who gets the transactions fees? probably this is explained in the tech-parts that i don't untderstand. can someone give me a hint please which pages i have to read.

AFAIK tx fees are spread among full wallet users and witnesses, don't know if this is mentioned in the whitepaper.
722  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: February 10, 2017, 07:48:27 AM
So to get it right, all GB's in my wallet (even this I bought and withdrawaled) and all linked BTC addresses in Wallet bot from round #1 (+ GB's from round #1) will participate in round #2. Is this kinda correct?

BTC addresses stay linked but you should consult the transition bot again if they still have a balance, because if you used one of those linked addresses in the meantime, their balance is probably moved to a change address.
The bytes in your wallet all receive the 0.1 new bytes, but for the new blackbytes you have to link one or more byte address. Simply follow the instructions of the transition bot.
723  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: February 10, 2017, 07:45:33 AM
Will bytes and blackbytes show up in wallet at the time of snapshot or will there be a period of time in between? If so, are we talking minutes, hours or days?

Thanks in advance

On round #1 it took about 24 hrs for the bytes and a bit longer for the blackbytes to show up.
724  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: February 10, 2017, 07:44:41 AM
  please support retweet. time to play in the Major Leagues    Wink   https://twitter.com/vasys174/status/829950592047075328     Make BYTEBALL Great Again    Cheesy

Good tweet, retweeted!

 Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy
725  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: [ANN] BYTEBALL: komplett neuer Konsens-Algorithmus und private Zahlungen on: February 10, 2017, 07:42:48 AM
Gab es nicht mal irgendwo eine Seite auf der man sehen konnt wieviel bisher verlinkt sind? Kann die Adresse leider nicht finden.


http://transition.byteball.org
726  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: [ANN] BYTEBALL: komplett neuer Konsens-Algorithmus und private Zahlungen on: February 09, 2017, 06:59:19 AM
irgendwie will das mit dem transition bot nicht richtig funktionieren. wenn ich versuche mit dem bot zu schreiben erscheint in rot eine aufschrift: ("code"."self_signed_cert_in_chain")
kann mir irgendwer helfen?

Ich sehe, dass Dir schon im englischen Thread geholfen wurde. Ich werde mir für unser Helpdesk merken, dass der Virenscanner an dem Problem schuld war. Das hatten wir bisher noch nicht. Welchen Scanner setzt Du ein?
727  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: February 08, 2017, 09:51:42 PM
Sorry for maybe a dumb question:

I wanted to link the BB address to get BlackBytes for the next giveaway. The bot says:

Quote
You also receive 0.21111 blackbytes for each 1 byte of your balance on the linked Byteball address, which currently is:
<byteball-address>: <amount-of-GB>.
Move your bytes to the linked address in order to maximize the amount of blackbytes you receive.

However, the ammount of GB it shows, is less than I have in my wallet in the actual address.
Am I missing anything? Are there some kind of "change addresses" where BB goes to when I make transactions? I would appreciate your help. TY!

Exactly, like in bitcoin, some bytes are transferred to change addresses when you do an outgoing tx. So best practice is to send your complete balance to yourself, using the address you've linked in the transition chat.

in this situation i have to send all bytes from address_1 to address_2 and then back to address_1 where:
address_1 – is linked to my btc and has problems (bot shows lower balance than it is actually);
address_2 – additional address within the same wallet.

am i gettin' this right?



Send it to address_1.
You can find all used addresses in the cogwheel menue under Advanced/Wallet Information.
728  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: February 08, 2017, 09:08:09 PM
Sorry for maybe a dumb question:

I wanted to link the BB address to get BlackBytes for the next giveaway. The bot says:

Quote
You also receive 0.21111 blackbytes for each 1 byte of your balance on the linked Byteball address, which currently is:
<byteball-address>: <amount-of-GB>.
Move your bytes to the linked address in order to maximize the amount of blackbytes you receive.

However, the ammount of GB it shows, is less than I have in my wallet in the actual address.
Am I missing anything? Are there some kind of "change addresses" where BB goes to when I make transactions? I would appreciate your help. TY!

Exactly, like in bitcoin, some bytes are transferred to change addresses when you do an outgoing tx. So best practice is to send your complete balance to yourself, using the address you've linked in the transition chat.
729  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: [ANN] BYTEBALL: komplett neuer Konsens-Algorithmus und private Zahlungen on: February 08, 2017, 12:41:29 PM
Finde das Thema interessant!

Frage:

Wenn meine BTC's auf ner Exchange liegen, so sollte ich sie am besten auf ne Wallet schicken wie z.b. Blickchain.info ?
Würde das funzen für Byteball?

Ja, wir hatten schon User mit blockchain.info, aber leider geht dort das Signieren nicht, nur die Mikro-Transaktion. Ich empfehle immer Electrum, als SPV-Wallet brauchst Du dort auch keine Blockchain downloaden und diese Wallet kann auch signieren (in der Desktop-Version).

Ok danke für die Infos Jungs Smiley!

Also kann ich blockchain.info vergessen .-/! Mit Trezor oder Electrum muss ich mich erstmal auf die schnelle auseinandersetzen :-/

Man kann (oder konnte zumindest) sehr wohl bei blockchain.info signieren. Ich nutze blockchain.info mit meinen eigenen Adressen, die ich außerhalb von blockchain.info kreire, Dann  kann ich bei Bedarf meine privaten Schlüssel eingeben und somit auch signieren.
Das geht jedenfalls mit der alten Wallet. Es wurde zwar vor einiger Zeit etwas umgestellt, ich bin daher nicht sicher, ob das mit neu erstellten Wallets noch möglich ist. Aber das kann man ja probieren!

Stimmt, mit importierten Schlüsseln kann man signieren, aber nicht mit von Blockchain.info erstellten.
730  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: February 08, 2017, 12:38:46 PM
hi bbs people..i lost the thread since some days..pls someone can tell me if there are new live net version on gitub for ths nex distrib of bbs ?

The current version is 1.2.0, download it from github or byteball.org
731  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: [ANN] BYTEBALL: komplett neuer Konsens-Algorithmus und private Zahlungen on: February 08, 2017, 07:17:57 AM
Finde das Thema interessant!

Frage:

Wenn meine BTC's auf ner Exchange liegen, so sollte ich sie am besten auf ne Wallet schicken wie z.b. Blickchain.info ?
Würde das funzen für Byteball?

Ja, wir hatten schon User mit blockchain.info, aber leider geht dort das Signieren nicht, nur die Mikro-Transaktion. Ich empfehle immer Electrum, als SPV-Wallet brauchst Du dort auch keine Blockchain downloaden und diese Wallet kann auch signieren (in der Desktop-Version). Signieren hat den Vorteil, dass Du keine Bitcoins verschieben musst und die Signatur wird sofort verifiziert (keine warten auf die langsamen Bitcoin-Bestätigungen).
732  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: February 07, 2017, 09:44:54 PM

Done.

Please retweet: https://twitter.com/cryptkeeperbtt/status/829083197824704512
733  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: February 07, 2017, 09:02:23 PM
warning medium ot  Wink

I am writing this because this distribution is so incredibly interesting, but probably not everyone is aware of it (Besides, it is a treasure chest for sociologists, economists and marketing experts).
The second round is a good time for a retrospective and a look into the future.

Some history for the newcomer:
When tony started the distribution, he planned a distribution in 4 rounds (see above - a Big Bang with four steps).
1.   Round 10% -> 0,10 * 1E15 Bytes = 1E14 Bytes / 1E9 = 100000 GBytes
2.   Round 20%
3.   Round 30%
4.   Round 39% (1% reserved for future development)
Tony participates like everyone else with his BTC.

Tony's goal was / is a distribution with great spread.  He hoped (last year) that at the optimum 10% of BTC's capitalization would be linked ( 10% => 1600000 BTC = 1,6 billions Dollar)

The interest was however rather modest (70000 BTC -> 0,4 % of BTC's capitalization) . Genesis making by a Big Bang does not seem easy- people are so lazy .
As we can see here ( http://transition.byteball.org/firstround.html ), we were only a very small number of believers - ICOs., some Big, and a lot of small fishes  Grin

According to this result, there was the risk that some early adopters (big fishes) and the ICOs. would suck up all the bytes (like a black hole sucks all the matter by gravitation).
The first distribution scheme still provided a 1: 1 distribution of byte -> bytes. What would have further accelerated the process. Similar to matter, money unfortunately has the property of agglomerate very quickly (The byte to byte ratio controls the gravity in the distribution cosmos).

The newly created Byteball universe would have become dark, boring and desolate. Only inhabited by 3 black holes (the ICOs), two handful of suns/planets, moons, and some planetoids + dust . (However, there are enough coin universes of this kind Wink ).

Tony pulled the emergency brake:
There was a new (newbie friendly) distribution scheme. It slows the distribution radically to remain attractive to new users. It’s also a more altcoin holder friendly scheme ( gravity  set to 0.1 new bytes for every 1 byte you own at the moment of the snapshot-> people have more time to participate).
(new rules: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1608859.3580 )

Now it becomes very interesting:
Due to the binding to BTC, the distribution of BTC with the BB distribution is repeated in a timelapse:

Before and right after the first round, Google Trends reported only inquiries from the US and Germany (and no-one else). Now (before the second round) Korea is the leader (since about 7 days), and the Netherlands +UK has joined. We are once around the world  (search google trends “Byteball” time: 7 days).
If you look at this video https://youtu.be/XFFvSYdKN78 you can estimate how the distribution (hopeful) continues.

Conclusion
The first thought was to carry out the distribution like a big bang in 4 steps. That did not quite work. Now, Byteball runs as a symbiont over the host BTC.
Will it work this way? I think yes, because anyone who does not connect his BTC must be totally stupid.  There is a classical win-win situation. Zero risk and one keeps the BTC only 24 hours a month (full moon) at an address.
Earlier or later, the insight should greatly gain ground at a lot btc owners and organizations.
This will be a very interesting year..


Congrats, well written! Can I tweet this?  Smiley
734  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: February 07, 2017, 08:04:58 PM
an other connection. this one if funny a tiny picture.

i.ytimg.com

Quote
wants to connect to i.ytimg.com on TCP port 443 (https)

   IP Address   172.217.22.174
   Reverse DNS Name   arn09s11-in-f14.1e100.net
   Established by   /Applications/Byteball.app/Contents/MacOS/nwjs
   Process ID   3668

something googelish according the IP


i will no stop reporting. because i think it is clear that nwjs thing is the reason. dev will know what to do.

Thanks for reporting.  As other people said here and in a few github issues, it is some (supposedly dead) code in nwjs making connections to google properties.  These connections will be blocked in the next release.  If you want to block them now, edit your package.json by adding this proxy setting:

https://github.com/byteball/byteball/commit/dfdd00808e3ac8f3268e7e346c2009bb403260f5

The location of package.json on Mac is /Applications/Byteball.app/Contents/Resources/app.nw/package.json.

Vlom, great finding!  Smiley

We need more people like you to test the software. Even with careful developing, such privacy leaks can creep in. Better to eliminate leaks and bugs right from the start!

You have earned a bounty of 1 GB for finding this leak, thank you!

Please post your address here or PM me if you don't want to make it public, thanks.

@CryptKeeper
thank you very much.

you can send me the bytes to this address: 62VPG77DWEHUIDCWJG7BLZFRDUKDI22U

Just sent you 1 GB.
735  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: February 06, 2017, 10:23:51 PM
an other connection. this one if funny a tiny picture.

i.ytimg.com

Quote
wants to connect to i.ytimg.com on TCP port 443 (https)

   IP Address   172.217.22.174
   Reverse DNS Name   arn09s11-in-f14.1e100.net
   Established by   /Applications/Byteball.app/Contents/MacOS/nwjs
   Process ID   3668

something googelish according the IP


i will no stop reporting. because i think it is clear that nwjs thing is the reason. dev will know what to do.

Thanks for reporting.  As other people said here and in a few github issues, it is some (supposedly dead) code in nwjs making connections to google properties.  These connections will be blocked in the next release.  If you want to block them now, edit your package.json by adding this proxy setting:

https://github.com/byteball/byteball/commit/dfdd00808e3ac8f3268e7e346c2009bb403260f5

The location of package.json on Mac is /Applications/Byteball.app/Contents/Resources/app.nw/package.json.

Vlom, great finding!  Smiley

We need more people like you to test the software. Even with careful developing, such privacy leaks can creep in. Better to eliminate leaks and bugs right from the start!

You have earned a bounty of 1 GB for finding this leak, thank you!

Please post your address here or PM me if you don't want to make it public, thanks.
736  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: Nxt - Allgemeiner Thread on: February 06, 2017, 06:45:49 PM
Was geht denn gerade mit dem NXT Kurs ab? Der steigt ja recht heftig. Decken sich die Leute jetzt mit NXT ein für IGNIS?

Ja, ich denke, dass das der Grund für den Anstieg ist. Es gibt ja mindestens 0,5 IGNIS pro NXT, wahrscheinlich aber sogar mehr.
737  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: February 06, 2017, 07:12:55 AM
Nice rise for NXT tonight!

I guess some people want their stash of IGNIS in the snapshot.  Grin
738  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: February 06, 2017, 07:09:36 AM
Witnesses are the single point of failure of the system. They essentially control the network and there are only 12 of them. You can imagine that if the rogue government (bankers or whoever) wants to take down the byteball system all they have to do is to take controll over 12 computers running witnesses nodes. This seems to be rather easy to do, especially at gunpoint. Moreover - this can be done without the rest of the network to even notice - if witnesses after being taken over by the rogue party are operated without interruption. Anybody who controls the 12 witnesses can do whatever he wants with the network - for example censor certain type of transactions. All of this is a contradiction to censor resistant trustless network that bitcoin is.

I can follow your arguments and respect your opinion. Bitcoin was created as a decentralized platform and that was a great invention - in the old days when everybody could easily take part in the consenus with their CPU or GPU miners, this system was still intact. But nowadays bitcoin has become a total different thing. Expensive asic miners drive bitcoin to centralization and the need for low energy costs favor some countries.

I will ask you a question: how many mining pools do you need to cross the 50% consensus barrier in bitcoin? I guess it's a lot less than 12.
739  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: Trading bot on: February 05, 2017, 04:53:02 PM
Wie kann man beim trading bot das kauflimit verändern? gibt es eine Übersicht aller Befehle?

Wenn Du 'help' eingibst, zeigt Dir der Bot eine Liste der Befehle.
740  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: February 05, 2017, 04:51:40 PM
happy new year! Smiley

3 coins is very interesting.  byteball/elastic XEL/ Qtum/

will hold my 700BTC shares byteball for one year.

700 BTC shares byteball?  We got a whale in the house!  Cheesy

But yes, it's good to hold byteball for now... I'm curious what will happen with black byteballs.



Coinmarketcap gives 1,499 BTC as the market cap for all the byteballs distributed. I doubt anyone was given 700 BTC worth, that's almost half of all byteballs distributed. It would require linking approximately 30000 BTC to get that number of byteballs from the distribution.
Explorer shows that your bb address contains 1012588898911 bytes:

https://explorer.byteball.org/#N5M2V4ZV3GWBRIGPHKOIVFI54UHDDDGC

not half marketcap..

about 1012588898911 Smiley

byteball will be popular!

i will hold and buy BTC/Byteball/Qtum/elastic XEL  in 2017.


seems no blackbyte in my wallet?

i got 1012588898911 bytes in my wallet. how many Gbyte i have ?  i will hold it forever.

Also after this round link.. how many new byte will i receive based on my old byte?
thank you



Welcome Byteball whale!  Grin

You're hodling 1012.5888 GB right now and should have another 2137.6764 GBB (Gigablackbytes) in your wallet, congrats!
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