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1121  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Checkcoin] Geolocation Reward System & More! [C-CEX Presale STARTED] on: September 09, 2014, 01:35:18 AM
Apologies in advance if this has been mentioned already (assume it probably has) ...

What date will the IPO end?
What will be done with the leftover coins? Destroyed or distributed proportionally? Or something else?
1122  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Crypti - XCR - Ͼ - 3 PoS algorithms - Ed25519 - Next Gen New Source - Launched! on: September 08, 2014, 09:56:17 PM
If the supernet devs simply wanted to buy up 10% of the coins on the market as part of their mutual fund type of thing... yeah, how can anyone stop them? Let them, no harm. It'd certainly increase buy pressure.

To allow one guy to have 10% of all coins is no harm? You really think it is in his interest to rise the price afterwards? In his interest is to cause as much panic sales to increase
his position - especially private one - as possible. And people just gave him enough money to eventualy corner the markets of the most promising cryptocoins. Awesome deal!

Mindless idiots who are here for profit and profit only will ruin everything the same fucking way it already happened in real world!

Ideally nobody would own 10% of a single coin, I agree. But to achieve that 10% outside of a some sort of deals with the devs for off-exchange coins, I expect they'd have to increase buy pressure ... resulting in a pretty big price hike, ie. BBR + BTCD -like. I'm not so sure they could cause enough panic to scoop up 10% of all coins at a discount, unless they created a mighty big (and temporary) panic.

Sort of moot, as whether they buy a coin or not, it's not up to any of us.
1123  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Crypti - XCR - Ͼ - 3 PoS algorithms - Ed25519 - Next Gen New Source - Launched! on: September 08, 2014, 09:28:54 PM

There is no way to prevent SuperNet from buying XCR on the exchange and including it in their scheme.  It is a free market, and they can buy and sell just like anyone else.

SuperNet demands 10% of the coins at the market rate for a coin to apply and join.  WHY should the XCR devs give up 10 million of their remaining 15 million coins for that (at 2000 sats)?  The devs are holding their XCR for the future, because they believe in the future of XCR.  

If you think SuperNet is good for XCR, give us a good reason besides PRICE INCREASE and EXPOSURE.  

 

I haven't kept track of supernet very closely, but assumed it was both sort of like a crypto mutual fund +  a multi-network of various coins? But are they necessarily the same thing?

I assumed a dev would have to agree to sign up with supernet, set things up to share the network with the other supernet coins, and agree to share various features? Basically to be a proper part of supernet, the devs of said coins would need to agree to it and put in a little work. Or am I wrong about that?

If the supernet devs simply wanted to buy up 10% of the coins on the market as part of their mutual fund type of thing... yeah, how can anyone stop them? Let them, no harm. It'd certainly increase buy pressure.
1124  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]The Chain & LINKs | iOS/Android app | Referal Rewards | Free Coins on: September 08, 2014, 05:30:57 PM
Looks interesting -- https://twitter.com/MENobody1/status/509030966745395200
1125  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POS/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold and asset backed. on: September 08, 2014, 05:49:47 AM

That's not a bad idea, we will consider this after the first cash outs.. We have been doing our best to support the price but as you can see there are a few elements trying hard to constantly keep the coin under ICO price. We will see how to remedy this as we want to reward bagholders and not those who are trying to constantly jeopardize the coin only for their own gain. If we get more buy support from others also it will benefit bagholders as well because we would be making more profits, driving the price down always is only lessening the bagholder pot from trading account associated with the stability fund.  Smiley. We alone trying to artificially drive up the price by constantly running up the sell walls by those who are pushing them down isn't the solution as they continue to use this method hoping we buy from them at the highest prices shrinking our fund. We will be looking to get the coin in the next couple of months into at least one more exchange if possible to provide more liquidity for the coin or we may even do a buy back scheme. Smiley. We will also add more funds to passive investments which will give us more time to focus on growing the coin in a healthy way.  Our primary goal though in the next few months to try to acquire more solid assets for the coin to be backed, then I believe the price would improve as well. We will discuss with out team what multiple strategies we need to put in place. This month has been our first in action and also I emigrated which took a lot of my time away so now I will be settled this week I can devote more time to our project.

Well, I don't follow the trollbox very closely (it tends to just annoy me), so don't know what the driving force is behind the current price. I just assumed it was a sell-off after the recent price rise.

I do agree that you probably should use the stability fund/buy back stuff somewhat carefully, although on the bright side it wouldn't take a whole lot to get the coin back to 25-30. Which was sort of the reasoning behind the suggestions I made, as so long as the sell side of the order book is so sparse, price movement up isn't very difficult.  It may also give an incentive for folks to buy more coin for some sort of semi-founder status, as to be honest, 10K is out of reach for most people, and especially so since not many coins are even being sold right now. But if you also had something like 2.5K/5K levels, it's much more doable. Something to keep in mind, anyway.

And yeah, another exchange could possibly help with volume. I think bittrex is doing some anti-bot stuff soon too, which ideally poloniex would implement as well. Bots are evil...
1126  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POS/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold and asset backed. on: September 08, 2014, 02:36:02 AM
Dates to keep coin in your wallet is 10th-17th, correct?

Something you may wish to consider for the future is an extra bonus for those who keep their coins in their wallet for the entire 30 days. Or perhaps tie it into 'lesser' founder's spots, with lower levels of freebies. Keeping the sell side of the order book reasonably clear would be the benefit there, even after the final wallet check date.

1127  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GB] $ GreenBacks $ ~ A Complete Currency & Infrastructure ~ LAUNCHED on: September 08, 2014, 01:41:44 AM
I really like Greenbacks a lot. I don't know how to go about doing it, but I think if there was a store/auction site designed where users could sell stuff for greenbacks or buy stuff with greenbacks, it would really help the coin take off.

If bitcoin started with Pizza! How about getting a Pizza Restaurant to accept greenbacks for purchases?
I want this coin to succeed!

Well, their marketplace is due next month.

As for an ebay-like auction site, I'm sort of 'eh' on those. They sound great in theory, but in practice they tend to end up looking like really horrible auction sites with a handful of items nobody really wants... ebooks, coupons, overpriced pc equipment and 10+ year old video games.
1128  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GB] $ GreenBacks $ ~ A Complete Currency & Infrastructure ~ LAUNCHED on: September 07, 2014, 06:47:57 PM
Is the 2.5 wallet due this upcoming Friday? If so, the devs may wish to put it on their roadmap.

One potential issue I see is there are several rather large gaps time-wise in their roadmap, at least according to crypto-time, with several weeks between upcoming projects. I realize it may sound ridiculous to think several weeks is a big deal, but in crypto-time and those with trader ADD, weeks = months.

Even if it's a small project, it may not be a bad idea to put it on the roadmap, just to keep the price stable. I'd also suggest sticking in a roadmap date for marketplace screenshots, beta versions, or anything similar, just so something can be seen before the actual marketplace is released.
1129  Other / Archival / Re: [ANN] {GPC} GROUPCoin POS|10M|Decentralized Development|Coin Audit and Analysis on: September 06, 2014, 06:26:15 PM
BLABLABLABLA Always the same excuses. Well that was the next scam like many other. Incredible bunch of losers.

Could have been worse if i didnt catch it now. As a previous user commented, no official post on the op or by me.

Obviously it was a bad decision to share your twitter or any social account related to this coin with anyone.

I'm actually surprised anyone believed the 'announcement' to begin with. Anon, all of a sudden, out of the blue, added, in like one day? No info at all related to whatever form of anon it would be, no info as to how it'd matter in the least for a coin with no marketplace or real world usage right now ... and basically copying pod (to the word), when the devs for groupcoin aren't even pod approved themselves? It didn't make any sense and was fishy from the start. All it needed was some zerocoin or darksend references to add to the fakeness of it all... he should have thrown in some supernet references while he was at it.
1130  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GB] $ GreenBacks $ ~ A Complete Currency & Infrastructure ~ LAUNCHED on: September 05, 2014, 03:53:04 PM
looks exactly the same as previous days.  Some people with weak hands start dumping, bots pull their buy orders, more weak hands sell, bot pulls back more buy orders.  

It's not organic as there is nobody setting up sell orders.  Just dumping and bots pulling back while also selling into their own buy orders to shake out weak hands.

just take the opportunity to buy now at the 1300 if you see a fake sell order, for 3btc, buy it.

People apparently have been doing the 'buy on rumor, sell on news' thing with this coin, which of course in crypto doesn't even mean what it's supposed to ... nor usually makes any sense. But that pattern has been going on for seemingly every milestone so far -- wallet updates, accelerator, etc.

It's easy to think some orders are 'fake' or people have weak hands, but that can also be explained by fake volume, or people simply dumping because they stick to the sell on news mindset, regardless of what it is.
1131  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NobleCoin[NOBL] - *GOING PoS*NOBL/$USD*MARKETPLACE*55 CHARITIES/MERCHANTS* on: September 04, 2014, 04:57:35 AM
+1. I guess the best help we can be at the moment is to try to think of ideas to promote Noble and try to keep things positive, I know that is what I am trying to do...

If anyone would like to chime in/have an idea they want to start remember we're more than happy to fund it out of the reserves ourselves. We just can't be on top of everything all the time, so any time someone has an idea they'd like to push we love 'funding' it with NOBL. Smiley

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I may be in the minority, but I've always viewed the marketplace as being much more notable than the coin itself. Using the coin as a marketing tool to get people to use the marketplace may work better than trying to get folks interested in the coin directly.

I agree, it gives us a good edge w/ real world use and something that makes us worth actually using. marketplace.noblemovement.com is always there. There are actually a lot more things these days you can buy with BTC, and we're transferring them all over @ 15% discount. Coinbase/BTC started promoting % discounts to promote real-world use a couple of months back, but we're still way ahead of them on that department in terms of amount and longevity.

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I also liked that old 'partner coin' idea, where by just holding Noble, investors get freebie coins of different flavors. I assume that idea has been put on the back-burner for now.

Still coming. It's not right doing any sort of IPO or second partner coin until NOBL is a success (in before never jokes), as we'd like it to look like we're strengthening NOBL rather than leaving it.



It wouldn't make sense to do the partner coin stuff until Noble is POS and all settled down. As for a success ... basically to me a success would be if the price was simply stable. Even we are just talking about lowish double digit sats, if the marketplace is active, I'd still call it a success. The main thing you want to stop is the slow bleeding.

The partner coin stuff would logically also increase the value of Noble, as folks would buy it to get the freebie coins... and current investors would hold, for the same reason. Although the idea would be to strengthen Noble, in reality, I would expect many partner coins to have a higher valuation. Fair or not... just the way it is with new coins, especially new coins with some of the fancier features.

I recall another idea discussed a while ago, which I mentioned in your forums ages ago, of creating a rewards type program/market discount based on coin held. A couple of coins are already doing this, Greenbacks for one, and Qibucks. The latter for dividends rather than market rewards. No idea how well it'll work, as it sort of relies on a price being stable to even make sense, but it's another thing to try. Unlike other coins, you already have the marketplace, so there is a decent chance a lot of Noble would be taken off the exchanges if you offered a rewards program for holding in your wallet.
1132  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Crypti - XCR - Ͼ - 3 PoS algorithms - Ed25519 - Next Gen New Source - Launched! on: September 03, 2014, 05:39:43 PM


What baffles me is that, the people who want Crypti to be added to SuperNet don't realise that Crypti doesn't need it at all. The whole SuperNet functionality can be replicated by Crypti's custom block chain support when it rolls out.

Why do we need to be part of another coin's network when our own network already supports it and is more robust/powerful? How about instead of trying Crypti to get added to SuperNet, promote other coins to use Crypti's custom block chain support?

You guys realise that custom block chains support leads to literally endless possibilities.

It's not that baffling when you realize that way too many people in crypto think short-term. They've become sort of programmed for the pump/dump, immediate profits, then move to the next coin.

So in their mind, anything that can cause an immediate price hike is a good thing. It won't matter if the supernet doesn't help the coin longterm, or perhaps even hurts it ... by then, they'll be out of the coin anyway.

It's a foolish mindset of course, with a coin like this. But that's just how some people are.
1133  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Crypti - XCR - Ͼ - 3 PoS algorithms - Ed25519 - Next Gen New Source - Launched! on: September 03, 2014, 05:21:17 PM

I couldn't agree more, but every second person is promoting that worthless network all over Bitcointalk.

I think the best thing the devs can do is simply be silent about Supernet, or at most, say it's under consideration for the future.

Those who think shortterm may still get a minor price bump. Those who think longterm won't be stuck with it, if they don't want it.

The smart thing is to simply wait and see how it works out. One thing promoters probably overlook is, what if supernet is a failure? You don't want some multicoin network dragging down the price of crypti. It's not automatically a price booster... it can go the other way too.
1134  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GB] $ GreenBacks $ ~ A Complete Currency & Infrastructure ~ LAUNCHED on: September 03, 2014, 02:26:26 AM
Have the devs considered partnering up with the Supernetwork at all?

I'm not sure if there is anything inherent about greenbacks that would benefit the network, so not sure if they'd take it or not. But I expect it would benefit greenbacks if they did accept it.

We are making a statement about this later today.

When are you going to release the statement?

Curious too. Today is sort of running out of time...

The supernetwork stuff is potentially a pretty big deal.
1135  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What altcoin should i invest in? on: September 02, 2014, 08:04:10 PM
ok, as the title says, im looking for an altcoin to invest in.


pm or reply back.

If serious, disregard every suggestion here (actually agree with Spoetnik... might be one of the few times) and do your own research. Everyone will of course reply with whatever coin it is that they are holding.
1136  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Crypti - XCR - Ͼ - 3 PoS algorithms - Ed25519 - Next Gen New Source - Launched! on: September 02, 2014, 07:28:58 PM
The basic question I have in regard to the supernetwork is, would it benefit from crypti and devalue it longterm, or does it provide anything new to crypti?

If it's just a matter of sort of sharing the benefits of each coin, could it possibly devalue crypti, basically giving away what is unique about it, to the supernetwork? If so, it wouldn't seem to make much sense to me for crypti to join.

Shortterm, I guess crypti could get a minor bump in price, but wait 1-3 months, and would there be any point?
1137  Economy / Services / Re: [Coins Source] *Signature Promotion* Promote Something Positive: [CAMPAIGN OPEN] on: September 02, 2014, 06:55:45 PM
Not sure if we need to repost our info or not to signup for the next month, but here is my info just in case:

Name:    poornamelessme
Posts:    1907
Activity:    252
Position:    Sr. Member
SRCC address: SVDoSeUvqTfLHSima8zRRPeKTcbyhSDMNK

Got my sr. member today, so might as well just go from today on.

Anyone know of any other campaigns that allow multiple sigs? I tend to make too much from freebie coin giveaways to make it worth signing up for any single sig campaigns.

And any plans to promote or do something with srcc soonish? It'd be nice if there was a bit of demand for the coin, or some use on coinssource for it. I'm sort of piling up a lot of coin that I have no use for right now.
1138  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GB] $ GreenBacks $ ~ A Complete Currency & Infrastructure ~ LAUNCHED on: September 02, 2014, 06:26:40 PM
Please contact the Chinese platform development team,
Promote Login
BTER.COM
BTC38.COM
MINTPAL.COM
These platforms have huge trading volume


It's already been accepted for MintPal v2, which I guess will start a couple of weeks from now.

Bter/BTC38 can be trickier to get on.
1139  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GB] $ GreenBacks $ ~ A Complete Currency & Infrastructure ~ LAUNCHED on: September 02, 2014, 06:25:28 PM
Have the devs considered partnering up with the Supernetwork at all?

I'm not sure if there is anything inherent about greenbacks that would benefit the network, so not sure if they'd take it or not. But I expect it would benefit greenbacks if they did accept it.
1140  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NobleCoin[NOBL] - *GOING PoS*NOBL/$USD*MARKETPLACE*55 CHARITIES/MERCHANTS* on: September 02, 2014, 04:55:22 PM

+1. I guess the best help we can be at the moment is to try to think of ideas to promote Noble and try to keep things positive, I know that is what I am trying to do...

I've only kept track of Noble sporadically, and have always like it... have a couple million coins tucked away.

I may be in the minority, but I've always viewed the marketplace as being much more notable than the coin itself. Using the coin as a marketing tool to get people to use the marketplace may work better than trying to get folks interested in the coin directly.

I also liked that old 'partner coin' idea, where by just holding Noble, investors get freebie coins of different flavors. I assume that idea has been put on the back-burner for now.

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