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1181  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is launching a new project during bear market a good idea?? 🤔 on: March 09, 2023, 01:43:45 AM
I've seen alot of projects did so well during the bull market, but now I'm wondering is bear market will affect the progress of a new project...
I don't know about your project as well as I have yet researched about it.

In general, bear market is toughest time as investors have their net-loss and their mentality can be very weak, sensitive and stressful. With such negative conditions, they are less likely or nearly impossible to think of investing more. Maybe many of them no longer have capital to use for investment in new projects. With those people, you can not attract them to join your new project.

Bear market is for builders and we have some lessons that a good team can build up good projects in bear market that will gain great success in a next bull market. A most classic lesson from 2020 bull run is Axie Infinity.
1182  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: March 08, 2023, 02:32:04 AM
Not only is ten hag affected at the result gotten from the match against Liverpool,  the is also very disappointed that Liverpool could have a win against Manchester united with such a high goal rate in the history of football. This is also happening when Manchester United seems to be at the peak of their form. If anyone should predict man U to lose,  it will be at a goal rate of 3-4 goals maximum. Even fan are still finding it difficult to believe what their eyes saw.
The defeat reminds me about a big clash between Brazil and Germany in World Cup 2014 semi final that ended up with a 7 - 1 win for Germany. That defeat from Brazil is like a nuclear bomb and similar to what Manchester United got days ago.

They are both big club and national team with high pride about themselves, traditional and personal ability. However when match turns to worse than they thought and they don't have a true leader on field to wake up a whole team, they easily to be collapsed in a few minutes. After that, all the rest minutes are nightmare.

Let's take a Manchester United nightmare to re-watch a nightmare for Germany years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE4BdIP6bvc

That game against Liverpool at Anfield was a massacre, I have not seen a live game where Manchester United fall to such heavy and humiliating defeat. Manchester United won’t forget this defeat in a hurry, I'm happy that Liverpool are finally finding their winning spirit again because for some time they were losing back to back games in the league.
In such match, almost every chance will be converted to goal by a dominating team. Like a one-touch shot from Salah, a head-shot from Darwin, in other matches, maybe those shots won't bring goals but in that bad day of Manchester United, a minor chance will be enough for a goal.

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Klopp can finally sleep well, I’m sure all talks about sacking Klopp will be out the door now.
Not yet. He and Liverpool have to work hard to get a position in top four. In addition, they have a mountain to climb at Bernabeu stadium in Champions League.
1183  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: March 08, 2023, 01:41:08 AM
You are right, seeing Chelsea's potential in the Premier League is very difficult. Especially with the capital points they have and the remaining matches it will be increasingly difficult to get past the club above them. Chelsea's Premier League play has been terrible and this season Potter hasn't produced great results against Premier League clubs.
Sterling and Harvertz saved the ass of Potter and he will have chance to continue his job in Chelsea.

In Premier League, it is very unrealistic to think Chelsea will be able to end at the fourth position, not higher positions in top four.

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They do look to be chasing the Champions League, but even then they are still in the last 16 while the opponents they will face will be much stronger.
A best possibility for Chelsea is to focus on Champions League and win it. At least they already get a spot for quarter final round and to win Champions League, they will have to play 5 matches including the final match. It is not easy but in Champions League and at knock-out rounds, everything can happen and strongest teams are not champions in all seasons.

Chelsea is already at the bottom and it needs to take the small team seriously to make sure if Chelsea will able to win and get full points by the end of the season. UCL is the only trophy that can be won by chelsea. I see no chance for chelsea to be qualified for UCL if chelsea keeps losing more and more points in EPL. The good result against leeds didn't prove that chelsea backs on its best performance. Chelsea needs to win a few more matches in a row.
They don't stand at bottom of table but their position is not good. They have big gap with top four and with good forms of clubs in top six and above plus a very poor form of Chelsea, it is impossible for Chelsea to beat all above clubs and enter top four. They can pass through one or two above clubs but impossible to do it with all above clubs.
1184  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My arguement with a friend who likes POS instead of POW. on: March 08, 2023, 01:33:49 AM
You don't have to convince your friend about that more than one or two times. After two or maximum three times, let him be with his opinion.

At the very last discussion, you should tell him that why he are fearful of centralized banks, pick cryptocurrency as alternative but at the end he pick a centralized cryptocurrency like Ethereum.

It would be my ending words, may last effort to convince him.
1185  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Threads on local currency with bitcoin! on: March 07, 2023, 02:55:13 AM
Peer-to-peer marketplaces are mostly centralized but people want to use centralized P2P marketplaces as they have good trading volume. It's easier to find trade partner and complete your trades. However those centralized platforms are not safe.

If you want a decentralized P2P platform, it's Bisq.network platform.

Honestly, with Peer-to-Peer trading, banks don't know what is your trade about and don't know it is related to Bitcoin or cryptocurrency. If you choose a good trade partner, that partner won't report your trade to banks. Bad case is if you are greed, choose too good offer and open a trade with a scammer. If that scammer successfully scam you, it's fine, nothing happen with your bank account. If that scammer fail to scam you, that partner can report your trade to bank.

Be careful when choosing your trade partner and skip too good offers that logically come from scammers.
1186  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: March 07, 2023, 02:13:26 AM
It must be really frustrating for PSG to hear about the seriousness of Neymar's injury. He has always been an injury-prone player and this didn't change in this season as well. Fortunately Mbappe and Messi are still making a great duo together. As long as they have both of them on the pitch from the beginning of the game PSG should still be strong against Bayern Munich.

I expect a better start from PSG this time while they have these players both. If they don't have serious problems with finishing then they can really manage to eliminate their opponent one way or another.
It's important for PSG to have both Messi and Mbappe for the next match with Bayern Munich in Germany. They have to win there and need to have contributions from their best attacking players. Neymar will be out but they need to have two rest best attacking players in Munich to win over Bayern after all. It is not easy for PSG because of disadvantage result from a first leg and also because in Champions League, Bayern are more experienced than PSG.

This season looks to be a last season of Messi for PSG because the progress for a new contract between him and PSG has no progress during past three months. Rumor is Messi is more keen on a super deal from Middle East with which he will gain $1B for four year contract there. It equals to all earning he has gotten so far in his career since 2004. So he will likely to move there and reunite with Cristiano Ronaldo there.
1187  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: March 07, 2023, 01:52:33 AM
Chelsea already has a large number of new players, therefore adding more players is not necessary given the quality of the players they already have on the squad.
Chelsea needs a new coach, as you have already indicated. Although fans have been calling for a new coach for a while now, I still don't understand why they haven't yet followed that.

By the start of next season, am anticipating that all of Chelsea's new players will align with one another on the field of play. By then matches will be won
Chelsea usually have better performance after sacking a coach but this season is different, their coach is safe but they bought many new players who have yet adapted to their club. Their performance has yet been improved after the winter transfer season and worse, it looks to be worse and more decreasing in latest weeks.

A few weeks ago, Chelsea and Liverpool were at similar situations and they stood closely on the table with two consecutive rankings. However now Liverpool are moving closely to top four and have very good chance to join top four. In contrast we can say Chelsea already lost their chance to participate in top four in this season.

Chelsea are not a counter attacking team they are a attacking team that has the most possession of the ball. Dean Potter has turned them into a counter attacking team but the players are not setup correctly to counter attack because they are not used to doing it. Dean Potter should have played attacking football like Chelsea did before he took over and then change the tactics in the pre season for next year because he would have more time to develop a system and allow the players to adapt at the moment they are trying to adapt in the middle of a season and every time they lose a game because they are trying to adapt they lose confidence.
Chelsea owners from Abramovich to current owner want to see sexy football in Chelsea but in their history, in the past two years, it's barely to see sexy football in Stamford Bridge.

Potter did built up a good pressing tactic for Brighton that brought him to Chelsea and it's strange to see what he is doing in Chelsea. Maybe he changed himself to pressing to defensive priority because in Chelsea, he has to face with bigger pressure and with many bad results, he lost confidence on himself and his favorite tactics.

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Chelsea were a defensive team under Mourinho but Tuchel tried to change that into a attacking team and it worked for a long time before he was fired but since Dean Potter has not improved by going more defensive and trying to counter attack.
Tuchel is more flexible than Mourinho in tactics and he is more friendly with players than Mourinho. I consider Tuchel is similar to Carlo Ancelotti who don't mind much about ego of players. They are coaches want to maximize results for their clubs and different than Mourinho who want to achieve best results but still don't want to fail in internal fighting with star players.
1188  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: March 06, 2023, 08:25:41 AM
it will be difficult for Liverpool to get a place in the UCL. although they could have played to their full potential and got a goal at home to Madrid, catching up to the current goal would be far enough. Madrid is not a weak team in UCL, they can always take advantage of opportunities to win. even in the second leg, they are playing at home and it will be very difficult for Liverpool to benefit from this game.
It's difficult for Liverpool because they lost big in a first leg and in a second leg, they have to play at Bernabeu. However, Real Madrid lately have very poor performance and a big win of Liverpool over Manchester United will make Real Madrid more fearful.

If they can control Liverpool in a first half, they will likely to prevent a shock at Bernabeu but if Liverpool have an early goal, their sentiment will be very positive and we see what happened with Manchester United. I know Real Madrid have stronger mentality than Manchester United but it does not mean they will be able to avoid a terrible thrash like Manchester United.

In fact Liverpool don't need thrash like that, they only need to win 2 goals to continue with extra halfs.
1189  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple and SEC Are Friends! Ugly Truth! on: March 06, 2023, 02:09:45 AM
First of all, xrp didnt hit its former ATH after 5 years, Just go open xrp chart and see again, Because if you dont understand a simple chart I dont expect you understand other things too.
It's good for Ripple fans and loyal investors as the coin has yet disappeared from top coin list.

If you check history of cryptocurrency market, many top altcoins fell out of top coin list after a few years. Some past top altcoin projects even become dead projects.
https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/

Ripple got trouble with SEC in the past few years and investors have reasons to worry that Ripple will fail over SEC. They hesitated to invest more and that reduce new capital flow into Ripple that does not help its price on the market.
1190  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin, Privacy, Mixers on: March 06, 2023, 02:03:59 AM
Every Mixing activity is based on profit for its continuity, and therefore without profits, that activity will stop, and therefore all mixers get profits either in the form of fees from users, or that the purpose of its establishment is money laundering, or to cover up some dark activities of institutions, or sell data to analysis companies, or They are honeypots to collect information for governments or third parties interested in purchasing that information.

Unfortunately, most mixers are centralized, so it is difficult to know where they get their money from and what they do with that money.
You forgot about scam mixers which likely are created to scam and steal money from their users.

Mixers/ tumblers always write announcements that they are providing best mixing services with too convincing words to acquire new users to their mixers. I read some mixers that operate a few months and suddenly shutdown or scam after their platforms received big deposit from a user and their teams decided to exit with a scam.

Using mixer is like using centralized exchanges, we should not send a too big capital in a single deposit or should never send all coin we have to a mixer. If they scam, we will lose all coins and money we have.
1191  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2022/2023 on: March 05, 2023, 11:50:25 AM
Ronaldo does not need to score in every match before he would be regarded as being efficient in such a match. Ronaldo has contributed much to his new club and he needed to do so because he was given a world class reception and also his pay is so huge.
Ronaldo is old and if Saudi was to be a very competitive league he is not supposed to be playing every match and even if he plays not for the whole 90mins
Before Messi and Ronaldo, I have never seen players who can score 50 goals in one domestic league season. Because of their high performances in the past, people expect to see those players continue to score goals like a machine even when they are older and mostly at endings of their careers. It's unrealistic and unfair.

Appearances of Messi and Ronaldo in matches mean a lot for their clubs. They can attract defenders, midfielders of opponent and it gives their team mates more chances to see good space to play and combine with each other to find goals.

I agree that Ronaldo is no longer as good as he was just two seasons ago but let's see in Saudi Professional League, how many players scored more goals than Ronaldo and he just joined them weeks ago?

Ronaldo nowadays is a player for moments and he can have very bad matches and outstanding matches. In outstanding matches, he can score 3 or 4 goals and in general, it's impressive enough against younger players.
1192  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: March 05, 2023, 11:20:56 AM
In recent games, Arsenal have to show character, a strong-willed victory was recently at Aston Villa, now they repeated the same thing with Bournemouth. Maybe Bournemouth deserved a draw in this match, but I don't really like teams that defend most of the match and therefore I'm glad that Arsenal managed to win.

The reason why Arsenal's last matches are so difficult may be nerves, because City have approached them and are stubbornly chasing them in every round.
Arsenal are the best club in Premier League 2022 - 2023 in ability to have final wins after getting conceded goals first from opponents. What to say about their trait to strongly revert results after all?

It is a strong mentality of a real champion and I know they have yet won the league but are coming more closely to a day they can lift it up on their hands. They play strongly and very ambitiously in every match and they don't rely on a single player to have goal and get points. That means they have a very united team that can bring them to success not only in a single match but also in a very long season.

It is correct that Manchester United should not underrate Liverpool for any reason because they are inform.
Liverpool will hardly walk alone in Anfield.
Liverpool have enough dangerous attacking players who can exploit Manchester United defense. They are improving and started to smell the air of top four and this big match, Super Sunday is important for Liverpool to pass through Newcastle United and move closer to Tottenham at the fourth position. In fact with two matches less than Tottenham, Liverpool can get same total points as Tottenham if they win those two matches. The task to get in top four is possible for Liverpool but at least don't lose point in match with Manchester United will be important for the Kop.

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I trust the Manchester United coach really well. He takes every match so serious that he does not like to feature incompetent players for any match.
He is not such a lazy coach that will underwrite Liverpool because they are not doing well this season.
Ten Hag is unpredictable coach and he has made many good substitutions that helped Manchester United to have goals and get points in Premier League. It proves that Ten Hag has very astute eyes to read match situations and can make relevant changes for his team.
1193  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: March 05, 2023, 11:12:01 AM
On Friday, Napoli lost to Lazio, and today Milan lost to Fiorentina. That was unexpected by Milan, but that's what one gets for betting on only one option out of trust in a team. Milan messed up my bet just as Napoli did. Monza has played well and defended their home, managing two goals against Empoli. I just thought Milan could do better today.
Those matches make the race for top four becomes more exciting. Lazio secure their position in top four but AC Milan will have risk to be out of it after this match day. Today will be a big match between AS Roma and Juventus. If Roma win, they will take over a  fourth position of AC Milan. If Juventus win at their home stadium, they will reduce their gap with top four and light up their hope to participate in top four in very late of the season.

Napoli lost points against Lazio. Other teams have opportunities to close the points gap with Napoli. But they can't. The AC Milan team lost against Fiorentina. If they win this match, they have a chance to move to second place in the points table. Inter Milan will play against Lecce today. If Inter Milan wins the match they will move to second place in the points table.
In this season, Napoli have very stable outstanding form that is opposite with other clubs so one loss from Napoli can not help other clubs make any change in the Scudetto race. They are weaker than Napoli and have to accept that Scudetto belongs to Napoli in this season.

This season can be terrible for AC Milan who currently hold the title but are facing risk to be fallen out of top four. The race is very competitive and no guarantee that AC Milan will be able to end with a position in top four.
1194  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: March 04, 2023, 03:05:43 AM
Luka modric needs to be replaced. he had a good chance but he was not able to do final execution. His shot was not even on target. Barcelona has got less ball possession but it was able to give the same pressure through the use counter attack. The goal that happened with madrid was caused by own goal. Barcelona and madrid played equally in the last match of copa del rey. Benzema tried to make a goal but it was getting annulled due to the off side. Some players like modric get older. It can be seen from his performance in the last match against barcelona was not so good.
Luka Modric is helpful for Real Madrid if they use him appropriately. They can not use Modric like when he was young, because at his 37 age, he is no longer able to play 90 minutes for all matches. In World Cup 2022, he still played well but Croatia had to replace him by younger midfielders in some matches. Modric can be useful if Real Madrid plan to use him only one half of each match and in future, he will more probably stay on bench at match debuts and only join if Real Madric need big changes in attacking.

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I hope that real madrid will consider bellingham as a replacement for modric. Real betis gonna be a very hard game for madrid for sure. Betis is now placed in the top 5 under atletico madrid. The draw may become the outcome of the match.
Madrid needs to perform better than when it was against barcelona in previous match. Madrid is always facing hard way to make goal once its opponent used fully defensive strategy.
Bellingham is a box-to-box midfielder and he is not a play maker like Modric. I am not sure that Real Madrid actually need Bellingham as they have Camavinga, Tchouameni and Valverde in midfield. However, it's difficult to find good play maker like Modric in modern football. Such players now barely appear and I have not seen any young player has potential to become new Modric.
1195  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you accept ? on: March 04, 2023, 02:58:54 AM
I wonder if PoW altcoins (like Monero) are considered commodities or securities.
So far, only Bitcoin is not considered as commodity or security.

It is one of biggest reasons you should prioritize to pick Bitcoin for your portfolio. Ethereum, BNB and other altcoins have risk to be considered as commodity or security in future.

The whole cryptocurrency community are waiting for a final decision for XRP lawsuit case. It will open a gate for SEC to aim at more altcoin projects or it will reduce pressure and risk on altcoin projects if Ripple XRP succeeds to win the lawsuit or at least have a way to handle it with SEC, in peace.

I don't actually believe SEC will file that lawsuit if they see they fail it so a chance for Ripple is handling it with SEC, with money likely.

The risk against Ethereum forced Coinbase to delist Ethereum Classic months ago. I guess they thought SEC will aim at the initial project that raised fund and it is Ethereum Classic, not Ethereum.
1196  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: March 04, 2023, 02:37:52 AM
Juventus are reported to have appealed against the 15 point sanction deductions they got from the case of falsifying financial statements. If the appeal made by Juventus is accepted, then Juventus may get leniency or even get back their full points. If it is true this return of points is given, then Juventus will have a total of 50 points, which means it will be in 2nd place in the standings. It will be interesting to wait for the results of the appeal.
It would be a joke if the sanction will be lifted after Juventus appeal. It's very slim chance for Juventus to succeed with their appeal to revert that point deduction. I have never seen any club successfully appeal their sanctions after all. Especially if punishments are point deductions, not financial charges or restrictions on eligibility on transfer market or being eligible as a representative of a national league in Europe like Champions League or Europa League.

This is great news, if Juve reaches 50 points it is very close to Napoli, of course not to reach it but if it puts itself in the best position compared to the other teams, if this happens it will be interesting how the others will react teams that are fighting for the first places, Mou's Roma, Inter, Milan, are the teams that I see a lot of heart in and they are fighting a lot, they are adopting an attitude that I like, they do not want to regulate anything, and if it occurs to me I'm happy for Juve, aside from the fact that they're not doing badly at all, I hope they can be awarded those points.
That sounds good but it is unrealistic. Juventus will likely not get any reversion of the punishment and they are no longer be able to compete with Napoli for Scudetto.
Anyway Juventus did became stronger than they were in early months of this season. Even with 15 point deduction, they still have chance to join top four. In next days, they will host match with AS Roma in Turin that will be a big mark for them to increase their chance to join top four.
1197  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: March 03, 2023, 04:41:46 AM
Actually this week could be a good opportunity for Liverpool to get past Newcastle's current position because the City vs Newcastle match will make Newcastle lose points again
Newcastle United can lose their position to Liverpool but with one match less than Liverpool, they can get it back. However, if Liverpool successfully to take it over this week day, they will increase their confidence a lot and they can beat Newcastle United at the end as well.

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Newcastle is a surprising team because their performance is quite impressive, it's just that they haven't been able to prove themselves when they have to face a team that considering strong, lost to United and also lost to Liverpool
Before Manchester United, Liverpool are the only club in Premier League could beat Newcastle United. After that second defeat by Liverpool, Newcastle United got more problems and were beaten by Manchester United too.

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but because Liverpool will also face a difficult match against Man United then at least Newcastle will remain secure in their position because Newcastle have a chance to get 1 point if they can withstand every City attack and if want to bet their last meetings have been filled with goals so it's not just City who scored a goal, Newcastle also has the opportunity to do that.
I am not sure that Liverpool will fail in their match with Manchester United that are on their outstanding form but Liverpool can do something and avoid a defeat. Newcastle United can gain 3 points from their postponed match so they will be able to increase distance to Liverpool a little bigger.

Chelsea has the opportunity to return to winning ways, it's just that the Blues' poor performance recently is quite concerning because they have suffered three defeats in a row. The match against Leeds could be said to be judgment day for Potter, because Chelsea officials were starting to get angry at the situation that was happening. Challenges addressed to Graham Potter from the owner and fans will add motivation to win the match.
I think it is too late for Chelsea in Premier League. They can return to winning way but it is too late and is not enough for them to compete for a high ranking on the table.

They have only 31 points that are 14 points less than Tottenham at 4th position. If Chelsea win their postponed match, they can reduce it to 11 points that are very big gap when Premier League only have 13 matches left and above them, there are Liverpool, Newcastle United as well.
1198  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: March 03, 2023, 03:06:55 AM
As long as Napoli are playing at home I will not doubt them whoever the opponent is  Smiley the potential to get 3 points is very possible
Indeed, Lazio is trying to stay in 4th place but there was nothing they could do this time because their opponent is the strongest team
Lucky Lazio do not have to worry too much about losing a place there because their competitor Roma will also face another strong team like Juventus.
Home stadium is big advantage for all clubs but with Napoli in this season, they are dominating Serie A and home stadium or home-away stadium, it won't change their performance so much. They simply beat opponents and go straight to Scudetto and they impressively do it in Champions League too.

Did you watch the match Napoli destroyed Frankfurt in Champions League two weeks ago in Germany? So impressive.

Lazio are not a weak team and they are at a fourth position and I am sure they will bring good powerful challenge to Napoli. However, Napoli can solve this challenge from Lazio and continue their almost perfect season.

Roma is facing Juventus tomorrow after a little break.
Meanwhile, Juventus last match was another tough competition entirely; it all needed to end in a 4:2 score, with which the lead was for Juventus and Torino had only two goals to reckon.
It is a big match as between Roma and Juventus, there is no friendly history. This match is important for Roma to hunt top four and at least reclaim the fourth position after losing it to Lazio by a Cremonese defeat.

Juventus see this match important too because in rankings, they are moving closely to top four and see their difference in points against top four is still realistically able to equal. If they win Roma, they will have another big movement toward top four.
1199  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why all these crypto-twitter "influencers" are still exist? on: March 03, 2023, 02:57:33 AM
So my question is this: if people are more aware of crypto/ bitcoin and all these scams, why they are giving power to these "influencers" to earn more money and scam more people?

And despite us having a strong and smart bitcoin community, why can't we win over "influencers" by showing people that they are all fake and lie all the time?
A community is made up of many people and they belong to many types of people with widely different traits. People in Bitcoin communities can be either genius, smart, average, stupid, super stupid. They can be well-minded, strong mental, well-disciplined or they can be very emotional, undisciplined, psychological disordered, greed. You can not have a community with all same traits.

In the community, there are people who are lazy, don't want to learn but they are greed and dependent on opinions of others. They are followers of influencers and their activities, decisions are mostly decided, manipulated by influencers.

If you can not eliminate those people in communities, influencers will have follower communities to keep their influence big and spreading around.
1200  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you still believe in bitcoin? What's your percentage? on: March 02, 2023, 04:32:54 AM
It's easier for people to feel they likely believe in Bitcoin in bull markets but it is harder for them to say they have such belief in bear markets.

By that I meant, it's hard to find real Bitcoin believers and most of people only feel great and have unreal belief in bull markets that turn to be uncertainty and disbelief in bear markets.

They can turn to be haters if they used leverages and got liquidations in bear markets. However it is not Bitcoin fault, people must change themselves first and strengthen their belief in Bitcoin. It needs time, patience, discipline and not easy.
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