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81  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 16, 2022, 01:35:05 AM
One reason I'm a fan of Elon regardless of his shilling for shitcoins, and shenanigans in general, is that his goal is to reach Mars.

Why tho? Dead planet. Nothing there but rock and more rock.

If we are in fact slowly circling the drain getting incrementally closer to the sun with each orbit, then Mars would be the next eligible rock within that sweet zone of close enough but not too close. So by the time we figure out how to get beyond that whole light years vs. limited fuel weight issue... it should be about right to support us and maintain an atmosphere.
82  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 14, 2022, 12:27:03 PM
Anyone want a 3D NFT of a dried up, over-used and old vagina?

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/madonna-defends-decision-sell-3d-072504161.html

No?

 Huh

I hear it makes a great beer coozie...
83  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 14, 2022, 02:42:26 AM
[Edited: Many Words]

Anyone want 2 years waiting for the BTC price to go back above the 100 week moving average - I am not saying that it is going to happen... but I am not so insulated as to either not giving any fucks or to even appreciate that bitcoin is going to be resilient no matter what, even if shit really goes bad in various macro-segments. 

Even if the BTC holdings of some of the longer-term bitcoiners may well still be up 30x or even 100x, there's gotta be some level of discomfort, no?

[Edit: More Words]


I mean, if we're being 100% perfectly honest...

I mean, YOU asked...

(24 months of averaging down from my $31.5k cost average with weekly buys??? Hmm... OK!)

Pro Tip: Careful asking questions you might not want to hear the answer.
84  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 12, 2022, 04:20:48 PM
Birthday this weekend, who likes my cake Smiley



Man, that's some mighty cake you've got there! Are the BTC parts edible? And...how exactly are you going to cut that thing?

Happy birthday, all the very best to you and yours, and congrats on a well-played move to increase your stash.

Also thinking of sending some fiat to Kraken to buy some corn. Should do it soon have already done it, because the bottom may already be in, and by the time the fiat gets deposited, we could be back to mid-30s (which is still a bargain)...  Cheesy

As for LUNA, serves the shitcoiners well. Will they ever learn? I'm sorry for the suicides and all, but these guys had already committed suicide when they pressed that BUY button. Let's hope it serves as an example for the noobs and the less experienced coiners out there.



It’s all edible, yes. I will leave the cutting to the Mrs Cheesy Grin

Thanks Smiley


Happy Birthday Bro!

As to the cutting, I would recommend a knife... in general wives are not that sharp, and not as easily manipulated as the more suitable kitchen utensil. Besides, wives are much more urgently needed for other purposes to promote the general happiness of the Birthday Boy!

Happy Birthday! Enjoy this one and many more to come!
85  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 12, 2022, 05:24:45 AM
Just 10% away from my price target.  Roll Eyes

If the price don't touch this trendline, I will never post any TA ever on bitcointalk.




Some D*ckheads who didn't believed my idea and called it stupid:

^^^^^
Good lord dude. Are you proudhon's other account?

If you're going to insist on posting TA here, then try harder not to post complete garbage/junk with no "analysis" given.

Just fuck off immediately.

Bye bye...   Kiss

P.S. And yes, this is not TA. It's just a chart with a randomly placed arrow.  Cool

ImThour, are you seriously betting your TA privileges on a touch down to $25k territory? Because with no wordenings to go with your chartening, that's what it looks like to me. Bold Bearish call that! I'll miss your attempts at TA.
-Cope

That chart and trendline is ridiculous..   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You are seeming to show that you have not learned anything... even after some recent promises that you made that you would try harder.. blah blah blah.

OK, I'm not a TA Guru such as yourself, but doesn't that chart have an X and Y axis? So doesn't your "Trendline" now put us below $23.5 territory?
86  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 11, 2022, 09:40:42 PM
Stepping in here, because this translates to a significant probability that I will lose almost all of my BTC:

I doubt that we are even close to max pain...

bears are going to push the BTC price down as low as they can and hold it there as long as they can.

Other than "buy a time machine, go back, and bat-slap myself a few months ago", do you have any suggestions for someone who fell into a margin debt trap?  There are no right answers in this all-wrong situation, but I want to pick your brain.

If I had been willing to "cash out" (I hate that term), I could have exited this position at $47k-48k last month, and walked away with more BTC than I started with.  I didn't do that, because selling BTC is unthinkable.

Instead, for much of the past week, I was liquidating other assets and pouring proceeds into the distressed account.  I drew the "no more!" line on Sunday, because I could lose absolutely everything this way.  To begin with, most of my liquid or liquidatable assets were in BTC - now trapped as collateral in the account that first ate all of my BTC as I added collateral to avoid losing BTC, and then has been eating everything else, too.  Other things elsewhere are safe, but mostly gone already.  I am good at hunkering down and waiting out bear markets, as long as I am not at liquidation risk!

So for example, max pain could be going down to the 200-week moving average or even going below that and maybe staying there for a certain amount of time... sure it does not seem plausible.. but for sure manipulators shoot to achieve the implausible and to sustain it for as long as they are able.. and we know that the 200-week moving average is currently at about $21,750.

In essence, we can try to give probabilities of what max pain might be.. and for sure that is not going to be easy.. including that even seemingly low probability events could end up happening.... and for sure many guys will continue to buy. all the way down.. and for sure I would need to reassess my cashflow if we were to go below $25k..

If we go down to $25k (never mind lower), I lack sufficient assets to avoid selling most of my BTC - or worse, having it sold for me in a huge market-dump into a red candlestick, with a penalty.

I can try to scrape along searching for the bottom, selling the least BTC possible with each drop (as I luckly did today).  That risks my missing the crash, and getting liquidated - or miscalculating, and getting liquidated.  For this reason, I have not been eating properly, sleeping properly, taking care of myself, or taking care of other things in my life - including things that could make money!  I have caught it at the edge many times - each time before, liquidating other assets and pouring them in; this time, selling BTC.  Now that I am run down to selling BTC, and I would be selling each local bottom before the next drop, I would sell low every time - bleeding out piece by piece, until almost nothing is left.

This has been ongoing for months, in a downward spiral of ballooning debt and shrinking assets - worsened by desperate, "must do something" attempts to make money trading altcoins on margin (!), in a chain-reaction of "I know better than this!" mistakes that seemed necessary to fix earlier mistakes.  My whole life is a wreck, and I am personally a mess - but never mind that; I am struggling to save my BTC, the important thing.

In February's worst crash, a trusted friend advised me to exit at $35k with whatever BTC I could recover - just in case we dropped low enough to wipe me out.  I replied that if I were to dump my BTC at $35k, and it turned out to be unnecessary, then I would kill myself.  I meant that seriously; I was not just joking about it, as I am now (for the moment).  In February, not dumping turned out to be the correct choice.  Before today, I never sold even one satoshi for dollars (other than spending in normal use of Bitcoin as money).

If we really go down to $25k or lower soon, the correct choice now would be to exit at $31k $30,500, dropping as I write this.  Thus I would lose most of my BTC that I have held for years, to save some scraps.  But I do not think that I am even psychologically capable of selling BTC, unless forced.  Not selling in the bull market - and especially not selling in the bear market!  I can't do it.  I just can't.  It is not "only money", because Bitcoin is not "only money".  I've lost a lot of dollars before, laughed, and walked away - but this is Bitcoin.

And if I were to dump Bitcoin at $31k $30,500, and the bottom was already in - eh, you guessed it. ☠️

So, bearing in mind that I am not strictly rational about BTC in the sense of "an economically rational actor", what is the least-bad choice?

mindrust myself out?  As my friend argued, the difference is that mindrust was trying to save his worthless fiat shitcoins; he was at no risk, as long as 1 BTC = 1 BTC.  I am trying to save bitcoins, not dollars; and I would sell the least necessary to free up whatever little bit remains.  I calculate PnL in BTC, not USD.  Though having dollars is nice, because it means I can look for a good opportunity to cash out to BTC.  Anyway, this option potentially carries a very expensive cost externality, as aforesaid; but I do consider all options, even the ones I immediately reject.

Keep scraping along, searching for the bottom?  I can currently survive down to about $29,200; with some income that I expect soon, I could push that a bit below $29k a few days from now.  For every $1k drop below that, I will need to sell off a larger and larger proportion of my BTC - that is, if I catch it before the liquidator bot.  But if the bottom is already in - or even if it is almost in (say, if the bottom is $28,500) - then scraping along saves BTC, just as I saved >1 BTC today by selling 0.5 BTC.

Also, should I absolutely stop pouring any more assets into this account?  It is a money-eating, asset-eating sinkhole - as an "economically rational actor" would have recognized long ago.  The incoming money that could be used to push down my liquidation price by a hair, could also be used to buy BTC (whether now - or later during a bull run, because "incoming money" is an airdrop of an altcoin that's down much worse than BTC).  But if spending it on BTC safely in my wallet causes liquidation of that account, it would be the most expensive BTC purchase ever!

I emphasize again that there are no right answers in this wrong situation.  There are only dilemmas, educated guesses, and attempts to pick the least-bad option.

If you would be so kind as to bounce around some ideas, I will be thankful - and I may or may not do whatever you suggest.  Either way, I will not blame you for the results of my own decisions, or for unheeded suggestions made in good faith (= with intent to maximize BTC, not maximize dollars) - just as I didn't blame my friend for urging me to dump and get out at $35k in February, even though it turned out to be unnecessary, and we visited $47k just over a month later.  And the posing of questions in a conversational way does not preclude the offering of other thoughts.

[Edited to fix a thought that got logically disconnected in the writing process, due the second-order effects of being glued to the chart without adequately eating or sleeping.]

You Good Bro???
(#wellnesscheck)
87  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 10, 2022, 01:27:36 AM
btw as of today my personal guarantee of 70k in may made last year means I may go down as the greatest btc jinx ever.

I think we really could see $70k this month. Things are looking pretty bullish from here.

I'm gonna cry...
88  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 09, 2022, 07:21:31 PM
Wait for it, we're gonna bounce any minute now. It's gonna be strong. A real trend reversal. Bullish phase incoming.

OK, now I'm getting scared.
For the first time in many many months price goes below my DCA and the local Llama spots out this???
Is this what they were talking about as "Max Pain?"
89  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 04, 2022, 06:56:22 PM
Everything going up! $40k incoming! Did the FED just make it's announcement?
90  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 03, 2022, 03:26:16 PM
Isn't there supposed to be a FED Meeting today?
91  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 02, 2022, 07:13:44 PM
He has cancer ore Parkinson?

Could be just constipated.

Vladimir Putin 'will undergo cancer operation in the near future' and is set to 'hand over power to hardline ex KGB chief while he is incapacitated', insider claims.

Quote
Vladimir Putin may be forced to give up control of the war in Ukraine for days as he is set for cancer surgery, a 'Kremlin insider' has claimed.

The Russian dictator will reportedly nominate hardline Security Council head and ex-FSB chief Nikolai Patrushev to take control of the invasion while he is under the knife.

Shadowy Patrushev, 70, is seen as a key architect of the war strategy so far - and the man who convinced Putin that Kyiv is awash with neo-Nazis.

The extraordinary claims appeared on popular Telegram channel General SVR, which says its source is a well-placed figure in the Kremlin.
------------------------------------------------------


Quote
[2] Yesterday, at the moment of the #Ukraine attack more than 40 high-ranked Russian military officers gathered in the HQs in #Izium. Reportedly, up to 20 of them are confirmed killed incl. Gen. Andrey Simonov, a commander of electronic warfare forces of the West district.

Quote
[3] Gen. Gerasymov suffered a minor shrapnel wound to his right shin without breaking a bone. Source: former minister of Internal Affairs of #Ukraine Arsen Avakov via his sources.

Quote
[4] UPDATE - #Ukraine claims that it liquidated at least 200 Russian servicemen incl. 30 high-ranked officers & elite Spetsnaz bodyguards unit as a result of the precision strikes on several Rus. military HQs in the last 5 days. Source: presidential aide A.Arestovych.
https://twitter.com/MrKovalenko/status/1520757617437683713



Fake.


Original Source

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/galleries/article-10770633/Insider-claims-Putin-undergo-cancer-operation-near-future.html

They reported Parkinsons AND Abdominal Cancer 18 months ago.
92  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 30, 2022, 06:47:41 AM
I hate fucking deer.
Other than freshly killed dressed and roasted for me to eat.🧌

Sorry bud. We have enough land that we've declared the entire tract a deer sanctuary. We allow people onto our land to hunt when nobody is there, but they are given strict instructions that deer are not to be killed. Everything else is fair game.



Good take I saw on Twatter, re BIP 119.

Noxious1 (@AlephZeta69)
Covenants lead to smart contracts. Smart contracts enable theft. The Bitcoin Council of Autism understands that. Jeremy is shooting himself in the foot, like you said. An unsound argument is one that you have to deflect attention away from.


Careful, overpopulation can lead to Chronic Wasting Disease. Terrible way to die... far worse than a well placed 30-06.

Oh and those Coyotes need to be put in check immediately! When populations reach a level of packs of 4-5 they are certain to go after your spring calves. Also keep an eye open for black headed buzzards. They're known to peck the eyes out of newborn calves and then slowly eat them alive.
93  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 27, 2022, 09:33:38 PM
the noon wall report


Mercury is in Taurus and will square with Saturn in Aquarius and sextile Neptune in Pisces 
This is a tense and unrelenting time, the fixed square causes a stalemate between the stubborn mind and the malefic
Communicative tension come to the forefront regarding long-term plans, leaving the comfort zone, and assuming responsibility
Compromise is possible, thanks to the Mercurial-Neptunian sextile 
Neptune’s energy can present itself, reducing the square’s fixed tension by offering a more optimistic approach
Just be mindful of Neptune’s ability to distort information
This all changes a few days later, Mercury will sextile Jupiter in Pisces, harmonizing the mind with the benefic 
Any tensions from a few days ago subside as the sextile infers idealistic, futuristic thinking
Be watchful for Jupiter’s ability to magnify and blow things out of proportion


dyor

4h


D

stronghands


Uhm.... 🧐


So... HODL?!?
94  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 26, 2022, 03:21:59 AM

 3.125 btc --------2024
 1.5625 btc ------ 2028
 0.78125 btc ----- 2032
 0.390625 btc----- 2036
 0.1953125 btc --- 2040
 0.09765625 btc -- 2044
 0.038828125 btc - 2048 7  ½ ings away. I will be 91 and likely not care too much


So, am I the only one who noticed the typo? Didn't this happen before? Is it a copy and paste?

If you mean the 2048 rate being .0488 rather than .0388, then no. I noticed it but just assumed I didn't know shit about fuck so I let it go. Being a Newbie I can still get away with "I dunno..." and just wait for the answer.
95  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 25, 2022, 09:33:43 PM
Elian is a narcissist that will fire or ban anyone that disagrees with him as he has proven throughout his career.

jep!

Coming back to the question "who is a bitcoiner?"  I really would love to know how everybody in the WO thinks about that expression, or better how everybody defines it in measurable terms.

What I think the fellow WOers are trying to say is that to be a "true Bitcoiner" is not to merely own loads of it, but to also (and most importantly) demonstrate an understanding of its core principles and the problem it solves, and to use everything in your power to support and promote Bitcoin every chance you get. Owning 50k BTC and at the same time promoting DOGE and removing Bitcoin payments from Tesla's shop because of environmental concerns, shows that 1. you don't get how Bitcoin works and where it draws its value, 2. you believe the misinformation that Greta and her team of EU "experts" are trying to feed to the ignorant public about Bitcoin's power consumption, or 3. you have some hidden interest and you use your power to achieve said interest, which may not necessarily be in the best interests of Bitcoin. That's excluding the ASD/narcissism aspect.

I have some friends whom I've introduced to Bitcoin, and some of them have ended up owning varying amounts of BTC. From our discussions, I'm often disappointed to see that they haven't got a freaking clue about what Bitcoin really is and how it benefits mankind. They're just in it for the quick profits. I don't think I would call them "true Bitcoiners"...

tl;dr: Simply owning BTC doesn't make you a "true Bitcoiner", just like owning a Picasso doesn't make you a "true art lover".

Personally, I think you conflate the terms "Bitcoiner" and "Bitcoin Maximalist". I believe that once you start collecting BTC you are a Bitcoiner, but with some level of intelligence and a modicum of basic research, , that should lead most to the the Maximalist conclusion..

If you drive a car you're a driver... but not until you start buying your own tools, doing your own tune ups, and craving more muscle/speed do you become a car enthusiast.

Just my opinion, to each his own.
96  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 24, 2022, 05:01:21 PM
Not that the “Where WO” must be played only from fancy, exotic locations.

You can also play from DUKE NUKEM levels!



So how was the stay there?

For some research purposes, can get location anyway?




 Based on the graffiti, I think it's in Portugal.  I see "períneo crew" scrawled on one of the windows - períneo is Portuguese for perineum.  "Pussy Coast" (also scrawled on the walls) could refer to the perineum and it's a short walk to Vulvodynia Street from there.  Three of the top ten nudist beaches are in Portugal so based on the perineum and "pussy coast" idea, I'm searching out all the naturalist beaches in Portugal to find nearby hotels that might match the image.


Hey xhomerx10 this might help you in narrowing down your search.
e.g. hotel farting



Edit: My bad it’s not seven letter but 8-letter word


You probably don't know how Europe works. Cheesy Cheesy

Probably its Hotel: "meeting", "visiting", "springrting", "cocorting", "chewbakarting" .. etc...  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes


Maybe its: "Zertin"

Uhm... Guys... it's 80's Era signage for "Hotel Martini"

Thought that was pretty obvious. Question is WHERE is the Hotel Martini that shut down w/o updating their 80's Era signage.


 Edit: (Pro Tip) Do Not Search "Hotel Squirring"
Good way to get Viruses!

 Funny, I did try narrowing it down with that exact tool!  I see three letters missing before the "rtin" and one missing after.    This means "Martini" doesn't work nor does "Zertin" but you have to start somewhere - I like the 80's signage idea.

 Nobody knows how Europe works, in fact, we have yet to discern if it works.

 I found a "Hotel Smartino" in Germany and a "Hotel Sporting" in Andorra - neither matches the hotel in the image.

 Are there more clues to come or do I have to keep making up words to search?



After drinking a few "Martini" looks like the answer to everything.
97  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 24, 2022, 05:49:45 AM
Not that the “Where WO” must be played only from fancy, exotic locations.

You can also play from DUKE NUKEM levels!



So how was the stay there?

For some research purposes, can get location anyway?




 Based on the graffiti, I think it's in Portugal.  I see "períneo crew" scrawled on one of the windows - períneo is Portuguese for perineum.  "Pussy Coast" (also scrawled on the walls) could refer to the perineum and it's a short walk to Vulvodynia Street from there.  Three of the top ten nudist beaches are in Portugal so based on the perineum and "pussy coast" idea, I'm searching out all the naturalist beaches in Portugal to find nearby hotels that might match the image.


Hey xhomerx10 this might help you in narrowing down your search.
e.g. hotel farting



Edit: My bad it’s not seven letter but 8-letter word


You probably don't know how Europe works. Cheesy Cheesy

Probably its Hotel: "meeting", "visiting", "springrting", "cocorting", "chewbakarting" .. etc...  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes


Maybe its: "Zertin"

Uhm... Guys... it's 80's Era signage for "Hotel Martini"

Thought that was pretty obvious. Question is WHERE is the Hotel Martini that shut down w/o updating their 80's Era signage.


 Edit: (Pro Tip) Do Not Search "Hotel Squirring"
Good way to get Viruses!
98  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 23, 2022, 11:55:33 PM

[Edited to eliminate immaterial excrement.] 
But we'll get to see some crazy shit in the next few years. Smiley


This being 2022... Just kinda hits different, yo...

Just Hits Different.

You might need to explain yourself.
 
We get all kinds of bullshit ways that people strive to make money and scam others through techologies that have become more possible after bitcoin because bitcoin (and then the various copy cat improvements upon bitcoin) have facilitated more ways to transfer digital value - and sometimes centralized and other times creating impressions of decentralization - and sure it was not ONLY bitcoin that made this more possible, because there were other kinds of quasi-centralized game tokens prior to bitcoin, too...  but seems that some of the scamming and ponzi schemes became more possible in recent times, and surely a lot of creativity contained therein - so even if the exact mechanisms to scheme people out of money are not the same... they frequently will take features from previous schemes or even building confidence that this or that project is legit (or the next new sliced bread or whatever)...

So, maybe you need to explain why you believe there might be some kind of meaningful difference that causes matters to play out differently - in terms of various crazes that get way more hype than they deserve... but also might facilitate a certain number of scammers to get richie through those smoke and mirrors deceptive products that are likely to come into being.. and maybe through a kind of "meta" marketing angle.

[Edited to eliminate immaterial excrement.]

WTactualF are you going on about?!?

I was just saying, after 2020, 2021, and thus far in 2020too... the phrase "we'll get to see some crazy shit" is a completely different statement than it was in say... 2019? No?
I mean fake insurrection, Covid, lockdowns, "transitory" inflation, and simulated WW111???
Please, let's go back to boredom! NO MORE CRAZY SHIT!
99  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 23, 2022, 05:28:30 PM

That's definitely going to be the new craze. People will go bananas over metaverse properties. No joke.

It will crash and burn eventually, of course. But we'll get to see some crazy shit in the next few years. Smiley


This being 2022... Just kinda hits different, yo...

Just Hits Different.
100  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 15, 2022, 09:54:36 PM

Just don't pray on the weak man. Cheesy Cheesy ..

I would not assume that he is weak, and you spelt "prey" wrong... but even if he is, then he will need to make a choice about his own participation in terms of whether it is good for himself or not.



No, no! I spelled it right. Like a priest praying for weak children to come into his lap, or Demon. U'r pick. Tongue Tongue  Cheesy  Grin  Cheesy
You know, like wishing for the weak to come to you so you can satisfy your domination needs.  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes
And not 'prey', WTF!? are we jaguars in the jungle to savage our inner animal needs??  Shocked  Roll Eyes  Grin  Cheesy  Cheesy

Well... Yeah...Huh

WAIT! You didn't Actually think we were all here to talk about "Magic Internet Money" did you???


Silly Hippie...
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