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1321  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: December 05, 2023, 11:49:18 PM


There is no significant difference. Both sites are operated by the same company, 1xCorp N.V., or something like that.
The only differences are in the frontend design and the fact that 1xbit does not have a license, so it operates illegally.

Quoted message: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5412793.msg60900509#msg60900509

So they are really that having on the same company but having on that different management but still
it isn't just that wise that you do make yourself getting involved with these shady sites and better to avoid it at all cost
or if you don't really like to experience some headache.
Oh thanks for pointing me to that thread,  I have read through that thread before but I have forgotten and at such could have missed out on other features of both sites that link them to each other,  mostly in the way and manner I operate and for sure by now there will be a lot of comments on that thread that would have exposed more about the two sites and his there have violated the players right on several cases.

But,  we warn newbies to avoid both casinos since there are high chances of becoming one of their scam victims no matter how popular one of them is in our countries,  the fact still remains that,  their scam casinos and bad actors to the market.
1322  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do not gamble with Loan Money~otherwise you will be in danger like me on: December 05, 2023, 11:10:15 PM

It is unfortunate but an uncontrollable urge that some gamblers fall into. One of the major reason for taking loan in gambling is where the gambler has lost out but he is trying to come back into the game. This is the real factor that causes it. Ordinarily, gamblers don't begin their game with loan but they are forced to do that because of the losses that they begin to chase in the middle of the game. I have seen seen many like that in offline gambling places that ended up dropping their iPhones and android phones to come back at a later day to retrieve their phones when they pay up their debts. So loses can make a gambler without control to take loan and at the end they end up not having back the loses they were chasing. Gamblers need to learn to let go when it doesn't go their way.
Sometimes,  those gamblers who are fun of taking loans to gamble with are not mostly in losses or trying to chase after their losses,  but almost their greedy and have overconfidence and the ability to make winnings at all times.

I wonder how they have forgotten about the sad reality of gambling which is that,  gambling is an unpredictable event and at that, its outcome can't be predicted,  but we are always learning not to take gambling as a means of making ends meet so for that we have to avoid taking loans just to gamble with and expecting to win and being able to pay back that loan through the winning.
1323  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why Is Bitcoin Price Increasing? on: December 05, 2023, 11:01:47 PM
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It may be that the price of bitcoin is rising because demand has increased , there are more people who want to buy bitcoin because they know that it is a great investment, and with everything that can be achieved when buying right now and hoping to sell much more late, for example, buy now and wait until the end of 2024, you would be making a lot of money, this is a lifelong investment, where the more time passes, the more strength the investment takes because the better price it takes, this is what is expected all the time to be done, based on how much they think about why ? It could be because the investors have planned it that way, if the big investors who are the ones with the most money see it that way, we who buy little by little because we must follow the big ones.


That is the fundamental foundation of Bitcoin price increase,  because only when the demand increases that guarantee the price to increase and that is what has an impact much more on our understanding of how and what makes Bitcoin price increase or decrease because when demand increases,  the commodity will become scarce and at that point, the value will automatically increase which will give birth to a competitive price.

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Those who follow the big ones do well buying , and selling when they sell, that is the only way I have seen that they can Achieve the things they want, you only have to Follow those who know and those who know know that there is still a long way to go to go up.
We call such approach,  the DCA approach and this is the most effective way to accumulate both bitcoin and the dollars at the same time using same formula DCA,  with that too are sure that you may have short term Bitcoin price speculations and buying vs selling at regular proportions.

1324  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Wetin look genuine no genuine for nija on: December 05, 2023, 10:49:22 PM
I have been thinking,  of going on a social media break again at least for now until all this social media war has been properly handled things like this are what make the social media law very important and needed to give the government the framework of things and how to properly manage all the messages that are speculated through social media within the country.

Also just like one member mentioned,  whatever you see a fake copy,  there is an original copy of such because the conditional money transfer is a federal government/CBN initiative so scammers already know that Nigerians are desperately searching for means to ease their economic condition and because of that,  they can take risk in believing things like this, even without proper findings or investigations,  so scammer has found that as an avenue to exploit and work on the gullibility unsuspecting members of the society.

I used to receive such offers from many of them,  but most times,  I already know how to identify and block them outright to avoid any conversations with them.
1325  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sympathetic gamblers looses itself on: December 05, 2023, 10:29:45 PM
No matter how much you lost on gambling, I ain't got that time for petty sentiments, all in the name of regrets or pity for you... I believe that nobody needs to tell you at that point to forsake so many unnecessary spendings, including gambling....(cus I believe a gambler would always carryon and spend on other irrelevancies extravagantly)

The one thing that gives them hope is that -- others are winning, and it'll definitely get to their turn... maybe today, maybe not. How sick that sounds to me...

Sandra 🧑‍🦰
You are correct and the reason being that you only gamble with an amount you can comfortably lose at some point and also you have a long-term experience to know how best to handle gambling losses at some point and most times,  we tend to take the time to build that system that can reflect on our mindset and physical appearance at the time of Unfavourable conditions such as in this case mentioned in the ops.

Gambling with the wrong mentality or under the influence of anything will amount to a total waste of money in the long run,  but much more also is taking gambling as an investment,  such an approach also has wracked a lot of gamblers sliding them either into huge debts or becoming uncontrollably addicted.
1326  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gambling and Invest in gambling. on: December 05, 2023, 10:19:55 PM

Sometimes,  most of those gamblers are already addicted and at that will use even their house or other landed properties as collateral and If they fail to make repayments for the loans,  they automatically forfeit their properties,  so for much as it is given as loans,  it somehow an unknown trap for the gambler to lose something bigger because no lender in their right senses will loan money to a gambler to gamble with without having collateral.
Basically this has become a cycle that will continue to run if the gambler cannot be firm with himself to stop or at least just reduce his gambling activities. There will be no end to gambling involvement because someone who is already addicted will always have a way or even explore many ways just to realize their desires and curiosity about gambling, as you discussed here they are willing to pledge their professional assets or homes just to realize their gambling desires.

So when your hopes and expectations are getting higher and higher in terms of the end result that can make you smile then don't be surprised if people are even willing to do stupid things like that, so it might be very difficult if we just tell them not to be too much because they won't listen to some advice from others and they only focus on their own beliefs. So it's probably too late if you're already in that position, not least because you started with the wrong approach and understanding, simply put "when you lose you get curious and when you win you get addicted" that's gambling.
The first point of battle is battle against one's self and this could possibly be the most toughest battle even though the gambler is willing to quit it has to do with a lot of effort and wellness from the gambler himself to be able to defeat that tendency,  first, one need to have an effective approach to this and in doing that also you have to be convincingly ready to quit the addictions or act.

I can't imagine myself,  quitting active gambling and then embracing the gambling business even if I have all the experience in the world to work with,  many times our experiences may be based on the wrong approach and going with such a mentality will only lead to more devastating outcomes.
1327  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▄■▀■▄ 🌟BITVEST.io🌟 💰WIN BY 🔶PLAY 📈INVEST➡🔺🎲🎰🔲 | BET CONTEST ▄■▀■▄ on: December 05, 2023, 09:50:12 PM
Yes we are beginning to experience a new wave of improvement in this project and at some point we are sure that this comeback will give the casino another positive outlook in the market and help the owner to regain the trust of the community,  all that is needed,  is some level of commitment and being active in communication with the community because that is the only way to get their issues resolved at some point.

I believe that they're trying their best to regain the trust of the community and are offering such good things to regain the players attention that they have lost. Bitvest isn't a new name in the industry but still they haven't got a good amount of players due to their weak practices. I believe that they might need some good feedback and some reviews in order to get better. I think the best they can do is to run a review campaign and accept some participants who may share their honest opinion about the site. That way it will be smoother for them to gain some trust from the community and I also believe that they should offer some unique features to get some more attention.
I believe that also and that is why the community is trying to give them a second chance for them to be able to prove themselves to us that their are trust worthy and can make a welcome back that will make a lot of sense with the way lighlord have been actively communicating this day,  but then also we need to see some other members of the team that will join lightlord in running the project because doing so will boost a lot of confident in the project and will help the investors to have other channels to communicate with the team if lightlord become unavoidably unavailable just like what happened some time ago.

But then,  I believe that lightlord will put everything in place that will help him in running the business without any stress since he has long time experience in projects management but then also running a one-man business is not so that easy.
1328  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Opay-Fin Fech Companies Gaining Ground in Nig on: December 05, 2023, 09:13:24 PM
I wish them more success and pray they don't change when they get so big because most of us are increasingly dependent on their good services. Make them no break our heart ooo
I pray they don't change too, but I trust my Naija people once they notice a change in their services in the future everybody go japa leave them na. Opay has to understand that they have competitors out there who are working tirelessly to take them out of the market. I think with this in mind they will keep doing everything possible to keep delivering their best to their customers. I know that periodically they are always doing customer survey to know what their customers thinks about them and how to improve to keep delivering the best.

Opay,, in particular has done well right from time and I can say that there have overcome their worst phase when there was an insider attack on customer details but ever since that security issue was taken care of over 3 years ago,  Opay has been the top-notch and have always been keeping up with current financial demands from the public most especially in the year 2020-2023 their services have improved a lot and that can be also ascribed to the removal of their loan feature because some Nigerians took advantage of that to take loans without any plans of repayments and possibly abounding the loans.

This affected the company's revenue for some time before they finally discontinued the pay loan services and now giving loans from third-party loan companies.

I believe in the next few years from now, pay will be ranked among the top-rated in the country and that can be predicted with the steps the company has taken in terms of infrastructure and other development.
1329  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sympathetic gamblers looses itself on: December 05, 2023, 08:49:29 PM
So, comparing losses to someone else's own, before we stop gambling, is actually a bad practice as gamblers.

I so much agree with you on this very statement you just made above, because the fact that some people lose huge sums while gambling, at times that could be how much they are willing & could afford to lose, unlike if you are a newbie, and then you try to compare yourself with legend gamblers who has got enough funds and willing to risk any amount. Hence, trying to compare yourself or your budget with anybody else is the worst thing any newbie gambler can ever afford to do. Because just as our fingers are not the same, so is our financial strength not the same.
Comparison is not allowed in gambling and should be seen as one of the bad habits and no gambler should ever try source bad act,  because the outcome of this can be highly devastating and for that we can't either avoid group gambling or gambling with friends that may put us in a competitive position,  a lot of time we open to some of those act if we don't keep our gambling activities private and for such it's much more easier to avoid competitions as much as possible.

1330  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw on: December 05, 2023, 07:19:18 PM
Before accepting the term of service of the casino we must first of all be willing to hand out our documents for verifications because this is the most important stage that always gets gamblers stock at some point if they don't understand what really is happening.

Maybe that only applies to big gamblers so far, as a small gambler, I don't need to send any identification, just do level 1 verification, filling in the information data is more than enough, I can still withdraw money without having to be asked to send documentation for level 2, every KYC there is always a level. That's why gamblers who have a lot of money should read the rules first before making a large deposit.

Usually people like that never know how the online casino system works where there are rules and requirements that must be read regarding KYC so most of them make large deposits and bets until they end up confused when the casino asks the user to provide their identity and complete their KYC. My suggestion is that rich users should complete their KYC at the beginning
Yes most of those that are asked for kyc is those big bag holders and that os part of the anti money laundering laws which some time are effective in making it hard for corrupt politicians and criminals to use gambling sites as a mix for their stolen funds,  mostly at a time we have to look in the direction of that,  so the casino is always on the lookout for any possible loopholes that is why their place minimum $5,000 one time deposits or withdrawal on none KYC gamblers but any amount above that $5,000+ it may require the account to go through verification,  so for sure a lot has to do with why casino act the way they do and what the reason for kyx demands is because in most cases,  the gamblers are the one that has failed to follow the terms and conditions of the casino.

Unless for scam casinos who may deliberately lock a person out and for some reason to scam the gambler such as in cases with 1xbits unless that,  if not KYC is a prerequisite for higher wagerers.
1331  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: December 05, 2023, 06:51:48 PM

Well, as much as we don't know the sites out there that are connected to 1xbet, as well as 1xbit, I personally believe that this is the more reason why we all should steer clear from unknown casinos, most especially, unknown casinos outside this forum.

For me personally, ever since I got into this forum and started playing on online casinos, I done well  to avoid casinos that do not have a presence on this forum, except for 1xbet which is a casino I've personally known and played on several occasions before I started playing on online casinos on this forum.

So, in order not to fall victim to puppet casinos belonging to the same family or 1xbit and 1xbet, avoid playing on casinos that are not known out there, and also do not have a presence on this forum.
Based on the available evidence,  we have not linked both 1xbit vs 1bet,  but although we saw a lot of similarities between the two sites both in the game providers and also ways of scamming and locking customers' accounts anytime they make big winning and they want to withdraw,  most of them have complained that their withdrawal got stocked or they are asked to provide documents which at some point,  the team will tell them that the documents still with the security team and will not want to entertain,  recently there is a case with 1xbet of hold g some people winning when the won millions of Naira, I don't know how that case ended but I am sure that the casino will do what there have been known for which is to deny the gamblers they winning.
1332  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Cristiano Ronaldo get 1 billion dollars lawsuit for his NFT failure on: December 05, 2023, 06:27:07 PM

Its not even deserving to be called an investment, its just collectibles, ronaldo might iniitially thought it was legit business because the ones that released the NFT was an exchange with billions of dollars of trading volume that is binance so I guess his management thought that its gonna be fine but we all know some people are so detached from reality they think every investment guaranteed them profit and if they instead losing money it must be the fault of someone.
its simply ridiculous how just a mere $77 could become billion dollars lawsuit, well regardless people should know that NFT, arts more specifically, is just collectibles not investment, anyone should be conscious that these NFT are more likely gonna be ending up having low value if no one bids, after all its art.
When I saw that Binance was mentioned in the lawsuit as the custodial exchange that sold the NTFs I thought it could possibly end well for both parties but then I remembered the recent crisis that hit the exchange in recent times,  and what their debt ratio is right now, much time we have seen celebrities getting into problems like this just because they failed to do due diligence research before offering to promote the project because most of them have fallen to this crisis of management failure to discover future problems and what their motives are.

I think the $77 sell price was the initial and the team promised a certain predetermined price which was promised to the investors and at launch,  they saw that this token failed to increase in price and also fell below the price sale which is what have triggered the anger of investors.
1333  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Gala still worth it? on: December 05, 2023, 06:19:17 PM
To be frank when there is any disagreements between founders then you need to be very mindful with your holdings especially when the price is starting to dump on holders, that is one thing about altcoin i don't always like them due to disagreement between founders/team members and to whatever news that may possibly surface one of them may decides to back off from the project by dumping his holding and for the projects to be revived back it would take only the grace of Bull run otherwise those projects that face similar difficulties never rise again that was their ends. Main while altcoin you to be vigilant since falling is inevitable. 
Yes, I was about to point that out for the ops, because at that point anything can happen to the project and as long as the crisis lasts it will keep affecting the value and usability of that token,  if I were to be an investor in this project,  I will look out for an exit opportunities to secure my capital instead of buying more.

Alot of time,  most of these tokens are just gambling and at that, we should not take them too seriously and if there is any crack in the management,  it may lead to the collapse of the project eventually.

Let expect Assume that the 100% price recovery was as a result of some positive progress in settling the team issues,  or a trap just to pump the price and dump it on the investor's face,  holding a token since 2022 is a long enough time.
1334  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Money laundering in crypto casino on: December 05, 2023, 06:09:13 PM
For the souls fact that money laundering,  illegal financing and terrorism financing have been on the increase since time past and mostly used is the banking system and a lot of those thief's will rather avoid risking their stolen founds through gambling since their already know that,  there is high possibility for them to lose in trying to meet the wagering requirements for the casino, so for sure,  casino is not the best place to go for them when trying to carry out their money laundering act.

In fact most time those that launder money choose to use cash stashed since they know that with that,  their transactions will be totally untraceable,  it only a few time that,  there can be any possibility of casino becoming tool for money laundering it's upton impossible.
1335  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gambling and Invest in gambling. on: December 05, 2023, 05:15:41 PM


Also, its never been that ethical or something that would really be that good to take advantage of those gamblers on the verge of that huge losses because you are really that taking
advantage of them on which they would be likely be getting those amounts or loans and trying out to make collateral on everything that they could possible have.
Do you really have that kind of emotion on having no sympathy for their situation or condition? Yes, business is business but we can't really be able to deny that
it isn't really something to be that ethical.
Yeah, I think in those cases,  the collateral is the main aim of the lender because they already know how hard it is to win in gambling and at that will already know that it is almost near impossible to get the loan money back since the gamblers will have suffered a lose from the games,  and will not be able to make repayment of the loan so for sure the lender will have only the collateral as the only available means of getting their repayments back.

Sometimes,  most of those gamblers are already addicted and at that will use even their house or other landed properties as collateral and If they fail to make repayments for the loans,  they automatically forfeit their properties,  so for much as it is given as loans,  it somehow an unknown trap for the gambler to lose something bigger because no lender in their right senses will loan money to a gambler to gamble with without having collateral.
1336  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gambling and Invest in gambling. on: December 04, 2023, 06:10:47 PM
The last thing I will ever do is lend money to a gambler as a way to assist them to gamble more, a gambler who have gambled until he or she lost all their money also have the potentials also lossing the money they borrowed, or was lended to them, and we all know that, if a gambler loses the money he or she borrowed to gamble, there won't be any way for him or her to pay back the money except he or she looks for an external source.

So for me, I completely disagree with the Ops idea or method of quiting gambling to invest in it rather, I will rather play the gambling myself than lend someone money to do it.
It's like investing in a Ponzi scheme,  how can you lend money to someone to gamble with,  that is the most irresponsible thing to do as most time gamblers lose all their money,  and that is why we have always warned against taking gambling as a means of making earns needs and also taking it as an investment because doing so will cause you more harm than good on the long run,  most times some addicts things that they have the most sure games and at that,  can boldly request for loans just to gamble with and at the end,  they will still lose the bet and money will be wasted.

So anyone that lends a gambler money to gamble,  is just risking himself and should take it as if he is gambling with that money himself.
1337  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tips on staying responsible. on: December 04, 2023, 06:01:02 PM

We came to the conclusion that many people play without knowing why. Probably many people want to be lucky and in the end the player wins enough money to afford to buy a new house for his family or afford expensive medical care to his relatives. These are all very good dreams and of course there is a chance for this thanks to gambling, it’s just extremely small compared to losing, which is sometimes better to stand on the sidelines. Some believe that they won't achieve this dream in their entire life, and are ready to justify themselves with bets, which is irresponsible. Since we want to try to realize our dreams through gambling, we need a tough approach and informed decisions.
Really,  such a mindset is what have put a lot of gamblers into problems of losing chunk of their holdings,  having the dream of buying a home or having a family vacation using your winning,  many times we have not really taken the time to check what the risk are and how we may not be able to make an anything significantly through gambling,  so again we have to know that,  winning a jackpot in gambling is mostly all about the luck factor and some time that luck are not easily come by,  so we much lower our expectations on best results.

We can't build a dream around gambling because gambling outcomes are unpredictable and still can not be relied on, let's just gamble for fun and nothing more than that.
1338  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do not gamble with Loan Money~otherwise you will be in danger like me on: December 04, 2023, 05:51:10 PM
Why should you take a loan just to gamble with,  thos is a bad approchysince this can lead you into debt that may become hard for you to repay,  even as you said you took the loan from the bank,  most time banks loans come with a lot of interest and now that you have lost the money,  how then will you pay back the money,  this is the reason why we always advise against gambling addictions.

Because if you have been an experienced gambler,  you should have known that loans are no good area for gambling and also,  you should not chase after your losses just like in this case.
1339  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How discipline are you in managing your bankroll? on: December 04, 2023, 05:39:58 PM

Well, please don't make some people or persons without much experience in gambling believe that using or betting with big amount of money is a prerequisite to becoming settled in life, if you are betting big amount of money, there is always the possibility of losing it, and if for whatever reason, you spend an amount of money you can't afford to lose on gambling and end up losing it, rest assured that will surely create some financial problems for you.

So, it is very important to gamble wit caution, don't bet with big amount of money simply because you want win big, most especially, if you can't afford to lose such an amount of money, wining in gambling is not constant, and as far as I know, most gamblers today are in red, if we check the amount they have won from gambling in total, and compare it to the amount they have lost in total.

The gambling should be played with some good capital as like the investment of big money for the business to get good mobey as return from the business.Because the high investment should be not allow to get out of the gambling at the mid level of gambling by no money.The money used in the gambling should be take responsibility by the gambler.Because if they loss of big money make him easy blame of gambling site after the loss in the game.
OK, I think I understand what you mean better now, it is indeed true that having a big bankroll in gambling does give a gambler a good winning edge over those playing with small bankroll, but like you said, the gambler must learn how to manage their bankroll, if not, he or she may like loss it all in a twinkle of an eye.

It's like what you said before in your previous comment that, the more money a gambler have in their bankroll, the more they engage in gambling activities, a gambler who is out of control may even find him or herself betting on games which ordinarily, he or she shouldn't be betting on because he or she lack proper knowledge on such game or sports.
Big bankroll could be a temptation to the gambler if the gambler lack self control, so before a gambler get to that realm of managing a big bankroll, he or she should or first of all master self-control, else, he or she may just end up wasting the money.
Since the total rewards are calculated based on your amount staked that means that having a big amount in bets is what gives you a good amount in winning and that way also you have the chance of lowering your risk by selecting only one game odds and making a big stake on it to give you big rewards.

But those who are involved in such high-stakes bets are those who have taken sports betting as a way to make money in the form of investment.
1340  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Money laundering in crypto casino on: December 04, 2023, 05:25:23 PM
Money laundering from mixers to crypto casinos is a major concern. The mixer crackdown may reroute illegal flows to casinos, but the business won't die. Why? Because AML policies already monitor crypto casinos. Criminals adapt, but so do regulations. But are present AML policies strong enough to handle this possible surge? The government's mixer seizure shows the dangers of lax regulation. Crypto casinos must adapt and impose strict AML to survive. Government involvement is likely if they fail. How can these platforms evolve to beat launderers and meet regulations? The industry has a huge challenge, but it can also demonstrate its integrity and compliance.
I believe that casinos have some anti-mixer mechanism,  I am just assuming though,  because some exchanges already have such features in place to detect mixed coins,  and detect bitcoins,  this way every inflow from mixers may result in account limitation and investigations,  which sometimes is part of the anti-money laundering rules that comes with the license.

So we all have nothing to worry about when it comes to money laundering control in casino, The gambling system is more secure and it have a wager mechanism that puts every deposit at risk.
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