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1441  Economy / Speculation / Re: Once China fully realizes it has been betrayed... on: December 15, 2013, 03:17:41 PM
right
1442  Economy / Speculation / Re: Once China fully realizes it has been betrayed... on: December 15, 2013, 03:11:40 PM
who laughs last laughs best.
As I said.
1443  Economy / Speculation / Re: Once China fully realizes it has been betrayed... on: December 15, 2013, 02:56:19 PM
"Oversold PONZI pyramid scam... no real value... deluded cultists... BITCOIN GOING TO DA DOUBLE DIGITS"

I laugh at them.

who laughs last laughs best. Oh and double digits aren't even something to talk about or even single digits, when it comes down, (which can be not for another few years or it might be next month, who knows) we are talking about fractional of a dollar to worthless.
1444  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2nd biggest ponzi scheme in history on: December 15, 2013, 02:52:51 PM
You can't build any other ponzi on ponzi basis. Smiley.

You can there is strong evidence that pirate invested in another ponzi with his proceeds.
1445  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 15, 2013, 03:52:36 AM
price will go up and down, but my bullishness will always be correct.
until it's not.

that said I can't wait till you turn bear again. It's about time...
1446  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 15, 2013, 03:48:48 AM
anything that adamstgbit says is void in my book.  his predictions have costed me over $4k

You based your trades on what someone said on an internet forum?   Huh

price is gana crash fucking hard now

everyone that bought and didnt understand what bitcoin was about,  is about to LOSE their bitcoins by selling it to someone that "gets it"

seriously noobs sell in a bear market...

you are starting to look like a clown.
1447  Economy / Speculation / Re: Analysis never ends on: December 14, 2013, 04:18:41 PM
Just a hint, have you ever thought about interpreting consolidation phases as something other than triangles?
1448  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 14, 2013, 02:39:58 PM
DUUUMP
1449  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 14, 2013, 12:18:20 AM

owned.
1450  Other / Off-topic / Re: Alex jones calls Bitcoin a "Bubble" & "Globalist NWO" Creation on: December 13, 2013, 09:11:30 PM
who are you?
1451  Other / Off-topic / Re: Alex jones calls Bitcoin a "Bubble" & "Globalist NWO" Creation on: December 13, 2013, 09:05:55 PM
I'd like to propose the following as "Schiff's Law", and suggest that it applies to Alex Jones and all such publicly-known commentators.

https://i.imgur.com/eku7Dnq.jpg

I am living proof that this isn't actually true. Not smug about it, there are plenty of other people who are too.

And many of us oldtimers would claim that is it still true, even in your case.

You hardliners will claim the moon is made of cheese if it suits you.
1452  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is china going heavy into buying all the sudden? on: December 13, 2013, 07:26:54 PM
fiatleak is junk -- it is very misleading. no data to support the conclusions people extract from it.

Welcome to life.  Misleading is the name of the game in marketing.  However, it is still a useful tool.  But like any tool, you have to figure out what it means and how to use it, not just take it for face value.

While no idea is perfect, some ideas are awful.
1453  Other / Off-topic / Re: Alex jones calls Bitcoin a "Bubble" & "Globalist NWO" Creation on: December 13, 2013, 06:37:56 PM
I'd like to propose the following as "Schiff's Law", and suggest that it applies to Alex Jones and all such publicly-known commentators.



I am living proof that this isn't actually true. Not smug about it, there are plenty of other people who are too.
1454  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Libertarians and gun rights activits here is how the rest of the world sees you on: December 13, 2013, 12:20:32 AM
There are libertarians and Libertarians. The one with the capital L are the ones I am concerned about. They represent the majority of this forum and are the people who preach "free market capitalism" which is just radical Neo-Liberalism.
I think the initial discrepancy still stands: Libertarian concept of ownership is not justified. (not according to justice). Economic Inequality can only be maintained using unjustified authority (again justice, not justification!), of course within limits. Libertarians (capital L!) do not strive after a classless society, but Anarchists do.

But quite frankly I don't see any use for either term, with l or L.
1455  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Libertarians and gun rights activits here is how the rest of the world sees you on: December 12, 2013, 10:53:04 PM
If it would only take one sentence my concept of justice is that no individual has power over another. Your sense of justice is a subset of mine.

Plot-twist: he was an anarchist all along!

A post structuralist one. As such I don't care about shutting down the governments.. And what I am saying Libertarians aren't Anarchists even if they say so.
1456  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Libertarians and gun rights activits here is how the rest of the world sees you on: December 12, 2013, 10:49:24 PM
Btw according to this logic the goverment has justified ownership over you.
It can protect you from any other entity trying to take possession of you, hahaha Cheesy

This is true; they do own you and I, because we give them the means to own us.  Once we agree that it's better for each of us to own ourselves, this comes to an end.

It seems you Libertarians have some problems with ethics if that is your concept of justice.

My concept of justice doesn't involve one group having special rights over another; however, my concept of justice isn't popular.  Your concept of justice, however, is, and the states of the world do have sovereignty over the people, which is understood to be morally consistent, as I pointed out.  Once we agree that this isn't justice, we can talk about what is.

If it would only take one sentence my concept of justice is that no individual has power over another. Your sense of justice is a subset of mine.
1457  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Libertarians and gun rights activits here is how the rest of the world sees you on: December 12, 2013, 10:42:18 PM
Well... LOL!

Look, I'm an anarchist because I don't think people should be giving all their power to one entity who is then capable of controlling everything.

I don't want people to suffer at the hands of those who can only take (as opposed to produce).

I do what I can to maintain my individual freedom. I use money that puts the power back in my hands. I own weapons to protect myself from those who would do me harm. I avoid conflict with those who have a monopoly on power while doing my best to avoid contributing more to their power.

No one should have the power to "own the world". My hopes don't prevent that from happening. Individuals need to take power for themselves in order to prevent it!
That makes you look like an egoist at best and a brat at the worst though.

I urge you to research classical anarchism.
And then post-structuralist anarchism. That's the school of thought I find most attractive. I know that from where you stand right now when you read about it you see it as hypocritical.

BTW: I am proud of my sense of ethics and fuck you if you think that does not matter.
1458  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Libertarians and gun rights activits here is how the rest of the world sees you on: December 12, 2013, 10:15:19 PM
What a relief we are back to how the thread started. Grin
1459  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Libertarians and gun rights activits here is how the rest of the world sees you on: December 12, 2013, 10:12:07 PM
You might be suffering from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder

I'm no doctor though, but see one.
1460  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Libertarians and gun rights activits here is how the rest of the world sees you on: December 12, 2013, 10:07:40 PM
Btw according to this logic the goverment has justified ownership over you.
It can protect you from any other entity trying to take possession of you, hahaha Cheesy

This is true; they do own you and I, because we give them the means to own us.  Once we agree that it's better for each of us to own ourselves, this comes to an end.

It seems you Libertarians have some problems with ethics if that is your concept of justice.
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