Cryptsy wallet is in maintenance again, so I PMed mullick. He says the deamon locked up. He said it was a Cryptsy problem before, but now he is saying he may need update from the devs: It looks like the daemon locked up again. Im going to rewrite the script that puts it in maintenance to restart the daemon and try again. But ultimately it will need an update from the developers to fix the locking issue
Bittrex and Poloniex wallets still working fine as far as I can tell. Edit: Maybe I should clarify. He said he is re-writing the script that puts it into maintenance. This may fix the issue, but he is saying the locking issue itself will need an update from the devs, which I think they have already been working on that. |
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I think this quote from smooth distills the essence of SDC rather effectively.
There are no other cryptonote-based coins in the top 100 on coinmarketcap besides XMR and BCN.
SDC uses a cryptonote-based design for their anonymous tokens, which is a bit different in terms of coin design and doesn't share code but the cryptography is almost identical.
They call it "zero knowledge solution" though. Perhaps that is self descriptive. I think SDC is not just a copy of cryptonote. Its more complicated and cryptonote tech is just one of the pieces of the puzzle. When Satoshi built bitcoin, he didn't invent any new tech either. All he did was put existing technical puzzle pieces together in a way that created a powerful incentive system. The incentive system is the brilliance behind Bitcoin. ShadowCash is doing a similar thing, putting the puzzle pieces together in a brilliant way. Also soon Isidor Zeuner will have his review out on ShadowCash, which compares Shadow to cryptonote and other schemes, showing their similarities and differences, so that may put an end to the debate. |
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Shadowcash is some smalltime alt that you are pumping whereas Darkcoin is an established cryptocurrency with a huge following and a far greater degree of legitimacy and respect within the community (aka, anybody who knows anything about cryptocurrency).
That's the difference.
Pointing to marketcap and hype as the reason why DRK is better doesn't seem too smart. If anything DRK is very overvalued, so makes it a bad investment at 9 million market cap. Shadow has like $350,000 market cap, and is a better anon solution. A smart investor would choose SDC over DRK for its huge upside potential. If you think you are winning now, just wait a few months or a year. Don't underestimate the power of the Shadow. Someone could say the same thing about DRK. DRK is just some smalltime alt, invest in a real successful coin like dogecoin and litecoin because it has a bigger marketcap. |
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Here is an interesting video presentation about OpenBazaar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRp8GevQRY0I think its a cool project. I thought its interesting as they will be the main competitors to ShadyBay/ShadowBay and they offer interesting insight into how to solve some of the problems of a decentralized marketplace. In the end Shadow may have a competitive advantage because of the extra privacy and anonymity it offers buyers and sellers, but Shadow also has to compete against Bitcoin's network effect. Also wondering if Sbay will have multi-signature involved at some point. That seems like an important piece of the puzzle. |
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Ok poppin in IRC now.
And Pline was never seen again…LOL. What happened?! What did dasource do with the body?  Lol, couldn't recover the lost 500 Shadow yet. I am going to send my wallet data over for them to take a look. |
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Lost a bunch of SDC trying to transfer into Shadow. Not sure what happened, the outputs are shown on blockchain, but wallet is not accounting for them. Transferred it from one wallet to the other, says debited 2500 SDC from one wallet and only credited 2000 Shadow in the other wallet. Any suggestions on how to recover? Also Cryptsy wallet is in maintenance again  I'm sure you're probably aware that Shadow (SDT) do not appear in the "total SDC" balance in your wallet, but rather in its own Shadow balance section? Therefor you add the SDC balance and the Shadow (SDT) balance together to get your true total. Restarting your wallets can sometimes help. Give that a go first. Also make sure the first wallet wasn't credited with the 500SDC difference (seems unlikely). If things still appear incorrect using the rewindchain command from console could perhaps help. Rewind the chain by however many blocks you need to get to a block number preceding your tx. e.g.: Hop in IRC with your txid if things still seem odd. If the outputs are shown in the blockchain (as you say) theres nothing to worry about. Yeah I'm not sure what happened entirely. I had other SDC to Shadow transfers that worked flawlessly before, but this time no. It created 3 outputs, of 1000, 1000, and 500. The 500 output is not being found by the wallet for some reason. I tried restarting wallet and rewindchain, and still same result. Going to try a few more things later to see if I can recover by minting the rest of the outputs on that stealth address. If that fails maybe have to figure out how to create a raw transaction using the private key of that stealth address? Not sure how to go about this yet. I tried looking at commands in the debug window, but couldn't figure much out. did you try repairwallet? Yeah I tried that, it just says {"wallet check passed": true} I'm thinking of options, perhaps save the wallet.dat, then nuke the wallet and start over loading the wallet.dat on the new wallet? Or perhaps dumpprivkey, then import the private key into other wallet? Drop me a PM or grab me on IRC to go over this... Ok poppin in IRC now. |
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Lost a bunch of SDC trying to transfer into Shadow. Not sure what happened, the outputs are shown on blockchain, but wallet is not accounting for them. Transferred it from one wallet to the other, says debited 2500 SDC from one wallet and only credited 2000 Shadow in the other wallet. Any suggestions on how to recover? Also Cryptsy wallet is in maintenance again I'm sure you're probably aware that Shadow (SDT) do not appear in the "total SDC" balance in your wallet, but rather in its own Shadow balance section? Therefor you add the SDC balance and the Shadow (SDT) balance together to get your true total. Restarting your wallets can sometimes help. Give that a go first. Also make sure the first wallet wasn't credited with the 500SDC difference (seems unlikely). If things still appear incorrect using the rewindchain command from console could perhaps help. Rewind the chain by however many blocks you need to get to a block number preceding your tx. e.g.: Hop in IRC with your txid if things still seem odd. If the outputs are shown in the blockchain (as you say) theres nothing to worry about. Yeah I'm not sure what happened entirely. I had other SDC to Shadow transfers that worked flawlessly before, but this time no. It created 3 outputs, of 1000, 1000, and 500. The 500 output is not being found by the wallet for some reason. I tried restarting wallet and rewindchain, and still same result. Going to try a few more things later to see if I can recover by minting the rest of the outputs on that stealth address. If that fails maybe have to figure out how to create a raw transaction using the private key of that stealth address? Not sure how to go about this yet. I tried looking at commands in the debug window, but couldn't figure much out. did you try repairwallet? Yeah I tried that, it just says {"wallet check passed": true} I'm thinking of options, perhaps save the wallet.dat, then nuke the wallet and start over loading the wallet.dat on the new wallet? Or perhaps dumpprivkey, then import the private key into other wallet? |
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Lost a bunch of SDC trying to transfer into Shadow. Not sure what happened, the outputs are shown on blockchain, but wallet is not accounting for them. Transferred it from one wallet to the other, says debited 2500 SDC from one wallet and only credited 2000 Shadow in the other wallet. Any suggestions on how to recover? Also Cryptsy wallet is in maintenance again I'm sure you're probably aware that Shadow (SDT) do not appear in the "total SDC" balance in your wallet, but rather in its own Shadow balance section? Therefor you add the SDC balance and the Shadow (SDT) balance together to get your true total. Restarting your wallets can sometimes help. Give that a go first. Also make sure the first wallet wasn't credited with the 500SDC difference (seems unlikely). If things still appear incorrect using the rewindchain command from console could perhaps help. Rewind the chain by however many blocks you need to get to a block number preceding your tx. e.g.: Hop in IRC with your txid if things still seem odd. If the outputs are shown in the blockchain (as you say) theres nothing to worry about. Yeah I'm not sure what happened entirely. I had other SDC to Shadow transfers that worked flawlessly before, but this time no. It created 3 outputs, of 1000, 1000, and 500. The 500 output is not being found by the wallet for some reason. I tried restarting wallet and rewindchain, and still same result. Going to try a few more things later to see if I can recover by minting the rest of the outputs on that stealth address. If that fails maybe have to figure out how to create a raw transaction using the private key of that stealth address? Not sure how to go about this yet. I tried looking at commands in the debug window, but couldn't figure much out. |
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Lost a bunch of SDC trying to transfer into Shadow. Not sure what happened, the outputs are shown on blockchain, but wallet is not accounting for them. Transferred it from one wallet to the other, says debited 2500 SDC from one wallet and only credited 2000 Shadow in the other wallet. Any suggestions on how to recover? Also Cryptsy wallet is in maintenance again |
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Also there is further evidence in the merger proposal that the merger did involve the technology aspect as well and not just to acquire the devs: It seems both of our teams are going down similar paths and doing all of the work twice. The ShadowCash team has been hard at work creating a great user experience, stealth address technology, encrypted chat technology and much more. These are areas in which Darkcoin could benefit.
We’re hard at work creating an encrypted multi-path messaging system and instant
transactions. So the work we’re doing complements each other rather well. Also its interesting, the proposal indicates that the DRK team actually doesn't know for sure how large the Shadow team is: The total value of Darkcoin would stand to gain a lot from such a partnership. This means that anyone that has a stake in ShadowCash (for example the developers, writers, PR people, etc) would instantly have a stake in Darkcoin and thus have an interest in helping out. We're combining communities together to become stronger. Imagine us all working together and forming a meaningful alliance. We’re under the impression the ShadowCash team is quite sizable and so is the Darkcoin team, combined we will have one of the largest most talented teams in all of crypto. source: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HrGDKKtr5cKKE8Iu7aOw1vXbVTGk9078sQaWlprZYrs/edit?pli=1What are you trying to achieve Pline? You know there are people here that are also involved in Dark as well right? People said that Evan Duffield only wanted the developers and not for the tech when he tried to buy off the ShadowCash project. So I was showing that Duffield actually was interested in the tech as well according to the merger proposal, even though he doesn't acknowledge the value of zero knowledge solutions in his video. Yeah I know some may be involved in DRK as well, so maybe they should realize the truth of what that project is all about. That they try to buy off competition, and then mislead investors by saying its not for the tech don't worry. Then the DRK fanboys come here and spread FUD like telling us how Shadow is not trustless when it is. But I guess people aren't supposed to ask questions or point out facts, it might upset some people holding DRK? Your posts show that you are a DRK holder. Would you like to tell me to shut up then? |
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Also there is further evidence in the merger proposal that the merger did involve the technology aspect as well and not just to acquire the devs: It seems both of our teams are going down similar paths and doing all of the work twice. The ShadowCash team has been hard at work creating a great user experience, stealth address technology, encrypted chat technology and much more. These are areas in which Darkcoin could benefit.
We’re hard at work creating an encrypted multi-path messaging system and instant
transactions. So the work we’re doing complements each other rather well. Also its interesting, the proposal indicates that the DRK team actually doesn't know for sure how large the Shadow team is: The total value of Darkcoin would stand to gain a lot from such a partnership. This means that anyone that has a stake in ShadowCash (for example the developers, writers, PR people, etc) would instantly have a stake in Darkcoin and thus have an interest in helping out. We're combining communities together to become stronger. Imagine us all working together and forming a meaningful alliance. We’re under the impression the ShadowCash team is quite sizable and so is the Darkcoin team, combined we will have one of the largest most talented teams in all of crypto. source: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HrGDKKtr5cKKE8Iu7aOw1vXbVTGk9078sQaWlprZYrs/edit?pli=1 |
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For anyone interested, here is the original merger document for when Darkcoin and Evan Duffield tried to acquire ShadowCash: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HrGDKKtr5cKKE8Iu7aOw1vXbVTGk9078sQaWlprZYrs/edit?pli=1Here was the ShadowCash response: http://shadowtalk.org/topic/252/darkcoin-proposal-statementI thought it was pretty interesting that a more established project like DRK would be so interested to buy off the ShadowCash project. Do they feel threatened? There obviously must be something of value here if they wanted a merger. Then I wonder why in this video Evan Duffield the DRK developer didn't even acknowledge the value of zero knowldge coins, or trustless solutions like SDC (8:26 mark): http://youtu.be/lzu_02-lp7o?t=8m26sInstead he only criticized zero knowledge, even after he had seen the potential of ShadowCash enough to offer a merger deal? It just doesn't seem very honorable, and its slightly embarrassing for the DRK team. I bet they are happy that it was never widely publicized. One part of the merger details that I found kind of funny was part 2 on the proposal conditions: 2.) We're looking for some kind of commitment from the core team that they'd work on darkcoin for at least a year beyond this. They could work on whatever they like, at the pace they're working now. Really weird that they thought this would work out. What if the devs were not working as hard as Evan had hoped? Its like the ShadowCash team would have become subserviant to Duffield, but don't worry Duffield will allow them the privilege to work on whatever they want, as long as they keep the same pace as now, lol. Seems so amateurish and desperate by the DRK team. The purpose of the proposal was to increase the number of people working on the DRK dev team, nothing about the tech. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg9459644#msg9459644We're currently in talks with the ShadowCash developers to join the teams together and become the second largest team in crypto. As the twitter states , it's not about their technology, we already have a working anonymity implementation. It's about the team itself, their programmers and designers are top-notch and we could go far together. This should greatly benefit both teams. It's hard to survive in crypto and there's a great cleanup that's happening right now. Darkcoin will survive and through a merger they'll come out ahead too. For anyone who wants to read the proposal as it stands: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HrGDKKtr5cKKE8Iu7aOw1vXbVTGk9078sQaWlprZYrs/edit?usp=sharingIt was confidential but Cryptoboh leaked it, then the DRK community was against it so Eduffield took it down. Later a lot of monster devs joined the DRK team ( https://www.darkcoin.io/about/team-contact/) , I believe no way they are gonna ask SDC for a merger again. It sounds like an attempt by Duffield to save face after the leaked info threatened an embarrassment. "Its not about the tech" he says because he doesn't want people to lose faith in his project, or go to Shadow for their tech. He admits the devs are top notch, yet they don't have valuable tech? I really don't like how some of the DRK fanboys and other coins try to bash the Shadow project. Look at this post from illodin: Yes, I feel like more dev power would definitely be good. There are so many cool features waiting to get implemented, but Evan has only 24 hours in a day. Problem is, most capable crypto devs already have their own coin(s).  Merger with an emerging coin would be a very good way to gain motivated dev(s) to the team. That proposal is a few months old, so dunno if the resource situation is still the same. Why to bring it up now is obvious however, SDC is owned by a few whales who need massive liquidity to offload their millions of coins. They believe they are closing in a release so namedropping XC and DRK close to a version release is an attempt to max out the hype and get that liquidity to materialize. It's going to get busy around here very soon. They are very experienced at this, and have a lot at stake. So its all a massive conspiracy from the Shadow Scam team to increase liquidity to sell their millions of coins?? LOL, these people are really pathetic, why not just unite around the idea of anonymity and privacy? If DRK actually had a feasible solution rather than their inherently flawed master node scheme, I could get behind them, but give me a break. |
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Few questions:
I tried to get my friend to download ShadowGo for android. Wondering if it comes automatic in lite or thin mode? Or you have to switch to thin mode? Couldn't find the option.
Also, I am wondering, if you send coins from Shadow to a stealth address, does that mean you can't stake those coins that reside in stealth address? Do you have to send them to a regular address before you can stake them?
Also is there any privacy advantage or disadvantage to using more than one stealth address for receiving shadow transactions? Or for when sending from Shadow back to SDC?
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Technical analysis doesn't matter much in a market as small as this. Price here is moved too easily by one large buyer or one large seller. Also nobody would be able to buy much at the price of 1K satoshi when it was there. If they wanted to buy 100K SDC at that time, then probably it would make the price go up very significantly. So don't worry, probably nobody accumulated millions of SDC at such a cheap price. Also those that did accumulate at cheaper prices tend to sell off as the price goes up. Notice the distribution on bittrex has become more evenly distributed since the recent price rise: https://beta.bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-SDCOnly 2 accounts hold more than 60,000 SDC now. It used to be more, and now only 7 or 8 accounts hold more than 50,000. As price goes up it gets more evenly distributed. Luckily price is so low now, its not too late for anyone to get a nice chunk of SDC. |
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For anyone interested, here is the original merger document for when Darkcoin and Evan Duffield tried to acquire ShadowCash: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HrGDKKtr5cKKE8Iu7aOw1vXbVTGk9078sQaWlprZYrs/edit?pli=1Here was the ShadowCash response: http://shadowtalk.org/topic/252/darkcoin-proposal-statementI thought it was pretty interesting that a more established project like DRK would be so interested to buy off the ShadowCash project. Do they feel threatened? There obviously must be something of value here if they wanted a merger. Then I wonder why in this video Evan Duffield the DRK developer didn't even acknowledge the value of zero knowldge coins, or trustless solutions like SDC (8:26 mark): http://youtu.be/lzu_02-lp7o?t=8m26sInstead he only criticized zero knowledge, even after he had seen the potential of ShadowCash enough to offer a merger deal? It just doesn't seem very honorable, and its slightly embarrassing for the DRK team. I bet they are happy that it was never widely publicized. One part of the merger details that I found kind of funny was part 2 on the proposal conditions: 2.) We're looking for some kind of commitment from the core team that they'd work on darkcoin for at least a year beyond this. They could work on whatever they like, at the pace they're working now. Really weird that they thought this would work out. What if the devs were not working as hard as Evan had hoped? Its like the ShadowCash team would have become subserviant to Duffield, but don't worry Duffield will allow them the privilege to work on whatever they want, as long as they keep the same pace as now, lol. Seems so amateurish and desperate by the DRK team. |
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for some reason I cannot connect to the ShadowCash network using the Cold Wallet for Windows. It says 0 active connections and the refresh symbol keeps looping saying that the wallet is syncing. I feel nub...Lol
I tried it both with & without the bootstrap.dat...still same results. Would like to get my Cold Wallet up soon so I can stake...Then some BTC will be flowing in. =D
Thx 4 the help!~
I had some sync issues a couple weeks ago, it seemed there was a small fork issue, which then caused the sync problem. To fix it, someone told me to go to the wallet and click help, then click debug window, then select the console tab and type "rewindchain 249000", then press enter. Then wait a while. I guess this rolls back the blockchain and then re-syncs it. This worked for me and others, so maybe try that. |
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Yeah still be careful of Cryptsy, having withdrawal issues on their wallet right now. They will be too busy to look at ShadowCash as they are busy fixing NXT wallet right now.
Thanks PlineYou're doing good work and I for one am impressed. Keep it up! p.s. wingmen flyin' in. got ur back Bro  Thanks CH, appreciate that. Thanks to mullick too. Glad Cryptsy wallet is working now, that's a sigh of relief. |
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Yeah still be careful of Cryptsy, having withdrawal issues on their wallet right now. They will be too busy to look at ShadowCash as they are busy fixing NXT wallet right now.
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Cryptsy wallet is back in maintenance, but mullick says its just an address generation problem, he is working through it now and shouldn't be long. So fingers crossed.
Edit: Looks like its fixed now, hopefully it stays that way for a while.
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Guys Cryptsy wallet is now fixed I guess. I PMed user mullick yesterday. He just replied with this message: The issue with shadowcash was a resource leak in the daemon. Responses would become slow and our system would kick the wallet into maintenance mode. I have pulled the latest source and enabled it again. If the system kicks it off again it will need an update from the developers to fix the issue. Although initial tests show its responding much faster now
I don't really go on IRC, so perhaps someone could let one of the devs know on IRC or something. I would be careful about depositing there for a while until it looks stable. It could be a good time to get your coins off of there. I wonder why other exchanges like bittrex and poloniex haven't had any problems. |
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