I don't really think the overall name should change, but just maybe the name of the 2 different units could be improved, so I voted no. I like Shadow as the overall project name. I also like "shade" as one possible alternative to "shadow tokens". I like Shade without the "s" on the end, I think it sounds better. I don't really like "lytes" or "lyte" that much for SDC, but its not bad. But it may get confusing for people. Also it could be confused with litecoin and stuff.
One other suggestion I thought of would be "show". Like send from "show" to "shadow", or send from "show" to "shade". Or something like that. The similarity between the letters in show and shadow would be an interesting play on words. But I am not final on this either, just bouncing some suggestions around. We could keep it as ShadowCoins, and use "shade" as substitue for "shadow tokens" and that might be good too.
Edit: Or also from "shine" to "shadow" is another suggestion.
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I think the name is decent. One possible issue is the aspect of the two units. There are 2 units, one is SDC and the other is Shadow as we call them now. This could be confusing because SDC (ShadowCash/ShadowCoin) also has Shadow in the name, along with "Shadow" the anonymous tokens. One suggestion I have thought of would be to switch from the name "Shadow" for the anonymous token to the name "Shade" instead. Like "hey yo, send me 50 Shade...Ok 50 Shade sent". That kind of thing.
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Insider info: audit fail.
bullshit. Is this confirmed? Nah its probably just some FUD from someone who dumped all their SDC by accident, and now they want to buy back cheaper. If it were real, they would be able to provide details. on the contrary: if they were attempting to fud, they would provide many details in order to convince others that they were real. a simple warning on the other hand, would require no details as the audit public release will cover all the details anyway. You are the FUDster. FUD stands for Fear Uncertainy and Doubt. A FUDster does not provide details, because details lead to certainty. You are all about FUDDing, and spreading Uncertainty, not certainty. Period. Lol i fully support this coin and the dev team. I even donated .5 btc to the audit fund. Some of you community members with blind faith in a protocol that you dont understand perturb me. Stop fucking hyping the coin. It will bite you in the ass so hard if something is proved wrong with all this hype and hope around. It will be great for some of us with btc in cold storage, but it can also completely suck the life out of a coin. Stop trashing the coin with no proof or details. Its expected for the audit to point out areas of improvements, this is hardly a "fail". Your ominous warnings with no proof of anything, is highly irresponsible.
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Who is Isidor Zeuner?
Isidor Zeuner is a German cryptographer and also a prominent member of the bitcoin developer mailing list. There are not that many people active on the developer mailing list, but he is one of them. You can read some of his stuff here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net/We have raised over 5 btc for him to help audit ShadowCash. Info here: http://shadowtalk.org/topic/321/shadowcash-whitepaper-review-and-code-auditAlso as a note, if the audit turns up any flaws or problems with the Shadow system, then its a good thing, and the developers can work to plug holes, and improve the system. Its probably likely that there can be some improvements, but this is hardly a "fail". When Kristov Atlas audited the DRK codebase, he found some flaws in their coinjoin scheme, which they improved upon. This is all part of becoming a hardened coin.
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Insider info: audit fail.
bullshit. Is this confirmed? Nah its probably just some FUD from someone who dumped all their SDC by accident, and now they want to buy back cheaper. If it were real, they would be able to provide details. on the contrary: if they were attempting to fud, they would provide many details in order to convince others that they were real. a simple warning on the other hand, would require no details as the audit public release will cover all the details anyway. You are the FUDster. FUD stands for Fear Uncertainy and Doubt. A FUDster does not provide details, because details lead to certainty. You are all about FUDDing, and spreading Uncertainty, not certainty. Period.
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Insider info: audit fail.
bullshit. Is this confirmed? Nah its probably just some FUD from someone who dumped all their SDC by accident, and now they want to buy back cheaper. If it were real, they would be able to provide details.
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Guys, if anyone has a Cryptsy account, it might help to e-mail them with a support ticket and ask them to fix ShadowCash wallet. It has been broken for about a month.
Ask for Mullick, he is the one to fix wallets. Tell them if they have syncing issues, to go to debug window and console in wallet, then type "rewindchain 249000", then press enter and wait.
Or if you prefer just tell them to delist our coin. They are hurting Shadow by giving the appearance that the coin is broken and that is why its been in maintenance for a month, when really its their own incompetence. I have even talked to people in the chat box, and they try to tell me its not Cryptsy's fault, and ShadowCash must be a broken coin and they need the dev to fix it, which is complete bull.
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Insider info: audit fail.
Care to elaborate? What failed? If an audit was done, and found vulnerabilities or problems, then that is actually a success, and a step towards progress. A more likely event for failure in my opinion would be if Isidor Zeuner is too busy or incapable or doing an audit.
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Darkcoin developer Evan Duffield was on this show I just watched. He was criticizing zero knowledge coins, saying they have problems such as blockchain bloat, and need to trust the developers. But he says his DRK coinjoin scheme could be "called fort knox of crypto". Does ShadowCash still require trust for their scheme, or didn't they solve this yet? Zero knowledge discussion starts at 8:30 mark: http://youtu.be/lzu_02-lp7o?t=8m30sMy man Child_Harold is all over it with the 1st comment: This is an embarrassing and misleading puff-piece. Evan speaks of ZK anon bloat without regard to the ZK anon advancements in ShadowCash, a crypto he is quite familiar with. The masternode system imo creates centralised points of trust (and failure) which do not operate within the spirit of a decentralised P2P crypto network. I was there early on and mined DarkCoin in AWS N. Virginia images which were made available… This video chimes the deathknell of the maybe-well-intentioned, but kludgy anon architecture. No worries. There is another… I really agree, I don't feel too confident in coinjoin schemes, or master nodes. Zero knowledge is where its at. The video left a bad taste in my mouth. It gave the opinion of someone simply trying to sell their coin. He wouldn't even acknowledge the value of zero knowledge solutions. Instead it was his job to criticize any competition as best he can, and tell you don't look there, buy DRK instead.
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Anyone else pissed off that ShadowCash wallet on Crypsty has been broken for like 2 or 3 weeks? Its hurting the coin. Newbs often look at Cryptsy first when checking out new coins. The volume there is a joke because the wallet is always broken. They look on Crypsty then see that there is no volume and the wallet is in constant maintenance, and they just assume that the coin doesn't matter or is not important, or not gaining traction to make it worth buying. People don't even know that Bittrex has decent volume for SDC.
Can we organize some kind of effort to e-mail spam Cryptsy and user Mullick who is in charge of their wallets? Its just ridiculous and is holding back adoption of ShadowCash.
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Nice work!
Time to say GG to the competition: 1GGzBQXnouv2LvSvBLcT9vR8CZ3X1sQi6y
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I would have thought that openly courting these markets is somewhat risky. If our anon is strong and scales and becomes a workable de-facto, digital cash equivalent, it will attract the best in people as well as the worst. I prefer to let the worst sort themselves out. I don't think its fair to call operators of dark markets the worst of people. Many of them are honorable and good people. This particular website seems to honor true values by not allowing stolen credit cards or other harmful things, but just allowing a free market to operate for drugs and stuff. Personally I think the drug war, and prohibition is horrible and causes a lot more problems than it solves. Although I agree drugs can really be harmful, and I don't do them, I think its also harmful to lock people in a cage for drugs. Studies showed that the original Silk Road reduced violence, and made things a lot safer. I think it would be great if they implemented ShadowCash into their system.
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What's with this conversion from SDC to Shadow?
At the moment I have all SDC using the latest build from Github.
Any posts on what Shadow is or why there is a conversion or even how or why to convert it?
Appreciate it.
Basically there are 2 units of account, both SDC, and Shadow (SDT). The Shadow is completely anonymous, while the SDC is transparent and can be tracked easily on the blockchain. So its the best of both worlds really. I think this slide presentation by CoolStoryTeller is good for explaining how the system works: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1yX2jN618Rnzs4g2ri_utdKdHbny6-xnRcPhOuhLNGB0/edit?pli=1#slide=id.g577a31a2a_086Also, it may be beneficial to put this presentation in the OP for new people to check it out and understand how it works.
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Question: If I change SDC to Shadow it seems general consensus is it helps the network. It seems the issue is in the wallet it occasionally says something on the lines of "not enough anonymous outputs". So therefore changing SDC to Shadow is creating more anonymous outputs I am assuming. But what happens when you change from Shadow back to SDC, does this reduce the number of anonymous outputs or does anonymous outputs still remain the same? If it remains the same it would mean its advantageous to transfer from SDC to Shadow, back to SDC and back to Shadow many times, to increase the anonymous outputs. Any insight?
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I am curious about this. I think we can assume the dev team owns MUCH more than 60,000 SDC. Is there a reason why they have not converted more to Shadow themselves? Perhaps they feel like staking SDC to protect the network is more important than converting right now?
Can someone shed some more light on this? Thanks!
I'm not part of the development team, but I know the reason why I haven't converted more Shadow for myself: lack of commerce opportunities. I assume this is the case for many holders. It's great seeing the amount of Shadow available grow but I'm assuming until the marketplace is ready, places like shapeshift.io accept it and shop owners accept it the amount will stay low compared with SDC. The majority of transactions are either OTC trades or transfers between exchanges and traders atm (my guess). Over on the Tor dark markets they mostly use BTC, they know about DRK, but they don't seem to know about Shadow. Maybe we can spread the word. SDC has been pretty stable in the past few weeks which is more than can be said for BTC! There is this new site "Silk Road Reloaded" that operates on i2p: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/silk-road-reloaded-i2pThey use BTC, DRK, Anoncoin, and a bunch of others I guess. They say they will be adding more coins too. Seems like Shadow would be a good fit.
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How long before the review by Isidor Zeuner is completed?
Kicks off when the below reaches 5 btc: Total Received 3.29988259 So donate. Nearly there after all Yeah I donated. But according to trollsroyce, Isidor agreed to do it without a fee: "So far, Isidor is the only qualified person that has stepped up to the plate without asking for a fee first and on that principal I believe he deserves to be compensated for his work. If and when other reviewers become available we'll start up a contribution/donation list accordingly."( http://shadowtalk.org/topic/321/shadowcash-whitepaper-review-and-code-audit). Sounds like we were compensating out of goodness of our hearts. I plan to donate more once the review is completed, if its completed.
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How long before the review by Isidor Zeuner is completed?
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Cryptsy wallet still not fixed. I feel bad for anybody with SDC stuck in there. Even if they fix it, I am scared to deposit any there, it might get locked up for months.
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It did fork the other day. I don't know how bad it was or if its worked its way out now. Many users had major syncing issues and I was on a forked chain for a while. Network weight seems kind of lower than normal at about 108,147 right now. Its usually higher. Block explorer has been down too. Crypsty's wallet has been down for days. I don't bother with them anymore because last time it took them like over a week to fix it. User Mullick is the guy who fixes the Cryptsy wallet, he posted in this thread couple weeks ago. Anyways hope there isn't a bad fork going on right now.
My wallet looks good. Didn't check it last night. Yeah for anyone having syncing issues, just go to help then debug window, then click on console tab. Then type rewindchain 249000 , then press enter and leave it for a bit. Thanks to dadon for that one.
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