matingale discussion has been active since ages here and in short words no it doesn't work , but I see some people believe that it may work on sprotsbetting or trading here
actually IMO martingale is the worst strategy even if you have the edge , so it's not good even in trading and sportsbetting even if you are making good trades or bets

in short words a good trader should be making more good trades than the bad ones and the same applies for a good sports bettor
so let's say a trader usually makes his trades aiming for 20% profit and stop loss of 20% as well , he should be doing good as long as he have 50% or more success rate ( a little bit more due to exchange fees ) now if he is martingaling even his good trades may end up eating his bankroll due to a really bad swing

so in general the only way to make money in trading and gambling is to do good value bets and trades , you will have success using these without the need of betting more cause a streak may happen that will eat your bankroll
by doing just value bets and trades you will be minimizing the risk and in the long run you will end up profitable without the need of wagering more and more when you are losing

posting to confirm that I received 0.01 BTC from Cloudbet as a bonus for the call they had with me , there was only X1 wagering requirement so it was a nice bonus
it's nice to see sites actually spending time and money on the gamblers here in the forum to know what gamblers like and don't like
hope you collected some good suggestions to improve the site more

no I'm not recommending them , not sure if it sounded like I recommend them but they are the worst if someone want to play with his own money and buy their useless token
so sorry if it sounded like I'm recommending them , I was just stating that they are the only active room that deals games with crypto so it's a good option only if you want to have fun with their freerolls then maybe play the cash games

regarding the bots I guess all the major big poke sites have such accusations but in my experience and in the games I played the field is soft , maybe for cash games and higher stakes it's suspicious but I played with ACR for 5 years and can't find anything shady in the games I played

do you recommend a certain room that have bitcoin deposits and withdrawals ?

AFAIK grading isn't slow for all the markets , it's only slow for some of the markets and you can contact live support in case you waited long for your bet to be settled
but yeah making it faster is better of course
and I have asked before about adding more lines and more types of sports , the answer has always been is that mbet focuses more on horse racing but with time they may start taking care of the other sports as well

all pure crypto sites are dead , except coinpoker which has a unique fishy token for that and yeah the room is active but that's because they had a lot of freerolls so people there were able to catch a lot of tokens for free ( which basically screwed the investors )

you can try Americascardroom and Betonline , but the rake is higher in Betonline so you should try ACR first IMO

Betonline has no KYC for bitcoin customers , but they are a fiat site so who knows maybe at some point they may ask you for your documents
I registered in ACR like 4 or 5 years ago and they used to have KYC for bitcoin customers but not sure if they still do so these days since rules change sometimes

I checked the prices for the upcoming EPL games and the margin is really low for these but not sure about other games , still it's not the best since bitcoinrush has a little bit higher odds ( higher by 0.01 in the games I checked )
so yeah betting on EPL isn't actually bad , but it's not the best in the market and hoping to see cloudbet reduce the margin more so their subject for the thread can be 100% accurate

yeah indeed , but I wasn't looking for a high pay since I already mod another site for free so thought why not to mod another site if it can rewards me a little more
but bringing new customers isn't my specialty and if I knew that it was a requirement to become mod I wouldn't apply at first place

instead of paying a mod to bring customers they need to do that for marketing , being a mod means to regulate the chat and answer people everywhere else except bitdouble

don't rely on this forums , they never check it and I guess all people here know what yobit is cause everyday there is a new topic regarding a problem with them
your best hope is just contacting the support , hopefully it's a general problem with their wallet which may be solved in the coming days but it may take months though since this is how yobit works

if you want to use them stick only to the top volume coins , these usually have no problems

no it wasn't me , probably cloudbet just understood your situation and anyways there is no single reason for them to scam a small deposit
my call with them should be 10 hours from now

hmm actually the main reason I joined the pool in first place is to see who is doing good and follow some of the guys' plays  but yeah got your point
I don't care much about the prize here since my goal is to profit betting , but yeah I guess some people won't share their plays and analysis because of the leaderboard

the games discussion threads have a lot of spam , so would you guys be interested in joining a telegram group where we share our plays ?
I mentioned that idea in the WC pool and guess some people liked the idea , if you are interested guys just pm me your telegram and I will add you to a group where we can share plays and info about tipsters and resources

contacted the admin like two months ago and I was so disappointed to get a reply after a month or so , it means one thing to me that you aren't serious in hiring people
also the requirements aren't accurate , the admin was asking me if I can bring Arab people to the site which isn't a moderator job and it's not in the requirements you have in OP here

so waited ages and got an unprofessional answer

OP has been updated with the following stats

Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)             in Euros

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                    237                                               -12.955            -323.875               (stopped tracking)

bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                   212                                         +23.249              +590.398

bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                    92                                              -13.748              -343.700              (stopped tracking)

degen signals    ( free picks  )                                    56                                          +0.864                 +21.600

tipstersclub       (alcuni )                                            11                                          -2.400                  -12.000          ( Stopped tracking )

tipstersclub       ( Basten )                                          114                                        -26.255                -262.550          ( Stopped tracking )
 
tipstersclub       ( JPP )                                               60                                          -28.885               -144.425           ( Stopped tracking )
 
tipstersclub         ( Houdini )                                       47                                          -21.588                -101.679

tipstersclub         (IrishAssasin)                                 143                                              +1.267              -24.921       ( Stopped Tipping )

tipstersclub           ( Record )                                       71                                          +28.243              +245.945          ( Stopped tracking )

tipstersclub           ( Ardeal )                                       288                                         -132.927             -896.185            ( Stopped tracking )
  
tipstersclub          ( DaveBets)                                      29                                          -15.537              -155.537                        

Joca97                  ( Free tips )                                   129                                          +7.572                +75.720
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002400.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881042.0

Wadster                ( premium picks )                            49                                          +36.510            +948.910

Wadster                 ( Free Picks )                                   27                                          +28.230             +286.340
 
Punting4Profit       ( premium racing )                          143                                          +35.647            +727.604

BitcoinSupremo     ( free picks )                                     4                                             -0.378               -3.780

BuySportsPicks.net   ( soccer )                                       5                                             -3.000               -30.000

BuySportsPicks.net    ( CSGO )                                      10                                            +8.844              +88.440

Enigma Betting          (  racing )                                    270                                           +35.400           +582.503

Tipstrr free ( Lucky 7s , Gentleman ,Low Blow, MAGA)     277                                           +56.161           +1040.951

premium tipsters       ( premium twitter )                       14                                             -17.760              -177.600
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not that much past week but there was a 300 euros profit , my routine still messed up and I'm missing some of the morning picks

no much new , last week  I followed only horse racing and tennis and still waiting for soccer season to begin so I should have more volume and hopefully more winnings

I subscribed to Boring Winners but wasn't able to place any bet yet since literally all of the bets he made was betting on corners which I'm not able to find on the sites that I use

so if you know any bitcoin site that offer corners betting please mention it here
will update the thread as usual next Sunday

both you and Darkstar have points , so please don't just rage on other members he is a great asset to both gambling and bitcointalk community
I should have a call tomorrow with cloudbet since they picked some members here to have a chat with regarding their experiences and other stuffs and I will bring your problem and how there should be an exception to their wagering rule

the X1 wagering rule does make sense , but it doesn't when someone deposit and not be able to bet

so just calm down and wait  few days , I totally understand your situation but your harsh posts won't help at all

I haven't been  that much active in the last week , but so glad that you unlocked the thread Dean
anyways even btc went up a lot and investors lost btc due to that there is still plenty of time and BKB may reach 2$ someday , can't blame Dean for what investors already agreed on ( if you want more btc next time participate in a BTC project ) 

I just want to see Betking growing and the development continues , it's one of my favorite sites to play and I want it to be better

attacking Dean or the site won't help , investors agreed on the terms and if they regret it then they can only blame their selves and as I said there is still a good chance for BKB to reach higher amount comparing it to BTC

wow so much rage for just 20$ , I mean I can't pick a side but when a person deposits and wants to bet on a certain selection then finds out that he can't bet it then it's frustrating
won't call it a scam for such low amount and since cloudbet issued a bonus , but I guess there should be an exception since the person couldn't bet his selection

let's forget about the 20$ , let's say someone deposited 0.5 BTC and he wanted to bet that huge amount on a tennis player for example and the max he was able to bet is 0.2 BTC on that selection
now let's assume this player doesn't make such bets usually and he just wanted to bet that amount for one time in his life , do you find it reasonable to make him wager another 0.3 BTC ?

I guess there should be an exception for such case , you have the right to hold the funds if a person just deposited without even trying to wager then yeah you can suspect him with laundering but otherwise there should be exceptions  

ok next time please make it clear if one of your games providers offer such leaderboard , cause there is a huge difference since I thought that I was competing only with sportsbet players
if I knew that I'm competing with every single site that have gameart games then I wouldn't participate since it's an obvious waste of time and money

would you believe that a gambler is really good when he is saying that ?? how do you have the experience in poker then if you hate KYC since all the major poker sites require KYC
and how you calling yourself a profitable gambler when you don't have the money to bet ??

I won't even risk a free bonus with you , probably my chances are way better than yours

yeah had this slow grading happening to me once , but it was graded right after I contacted the live support so no big deal with that since a lot of other sites as well have slow grading for some sports or events
it's only annoying when you are waiting the winnings and have no balance to bet on an event that will start soon , but guess live support can handle that

any comments regarding my question ?? you can't just make a leaderboard competition then not show how much the participants wagered or who did actually win
this is really shady , I can't see anyone here confirming that he received the prize and as I remember the prizes should include 50 players , I see none confirming that they received prizes for the spins leader board

any link to see how the vitamin GA ( or something like that ) finished and who won the prizes ??
I participated in that and haven't got a notification or email confirming if I lost or won a prize , and as I remember 50 people should be rewarded so guess my chances to win are good unless there are hundreds of people participated in that promotion