jesus !!! how is that a skill !! their chances won't change in terms of EV
if they snip with big amount that means they have higher chance to win but also the payout will never worth the risk they take

I don't know how you call this skill , it's pure chance and you are taking a fee so it's not even profitable

a skill game is a game that a good person can benefit from to at least lower the house edge ( like blackjack ) or even being +EV ( like poker and sportsbetting )

still can't believe you are calling this a skill game

oh great hope UK and IRE will follow , my connection here sucks so I may not be able to see any of these in case the qulaity is over 480p and can't be adjusted but if I was able to watch the races I will leave a feedback for sure

so world cup already ended , grats for the winners and hope the other guys were able to profit by betting on this world cup
I enjoyed this competition ( at least in group stages  ) and enjoyed reading most of what you guys write about your analysis 
hope to have another competition like this in the future , I'm not into EPL so probably won't join it

that's totally not true , there are many professional sports bettors as well and you can find plenty of them by googling professional tipsters or just checking twitter
these guys have sample of over 4000 picks for example where they show profit , in order to be professional let's say you averaging 3 units profit a month then your 1 unit bet should 500 euros for example and you should be making 1500 euros a month

there are also a plenty of sportstraders as well , try searching for trading betfair professional and you will see how many are generating income by just trading the odds in betfair

still not clear to me , please give me an example how skills in choosing the time of entry can change the result
make the example like if the pot has X then a player decided to enter at Y what difference would that make ?

have tried to read the concept over and over again , still not able to see anything related to skills

op has been updated with the following stats
Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)             in Euros

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                 237                                               -12.955               -323.875               (stopped tracking)

bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                   206                                         +18.502               +462.550

bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                92                                              -13.748                 -343.700              (stopped tracking)

degen signals    ( free picks  )                                    56                                          +0.864                 +21.600

tipstersclub       (alcuni )                                            11                                          -2.400                  -12.000

tipstersclub       ( Basten )                                          114                                        -26.255                -262.550

tipstersclub       ( JPP )                                               57                                          -20.275                -101.375

tipstersclub         ( Houdini )                                       47                                          -21.588                -101.679

tipstersclub         (IrishAssasin)                              143                                              +1.267                 -24.921       ( Stopped Tipping )

tipstersclub           ( Record )                                       71                                          +28.243              +245.945

tipstersclub           ( Ardeal )                                       284                                         -135.107             -908.175
 
tipstersclub          ( DaveBets)                                      24                                          -19.862              -198.620                        

Joca97                  ( Free tips )                                   112                                          +4.102                +41.020
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002400.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881042.0

Wadster                ( premium picks )                            33                                           +28.359            +724.758

Wadster                 ( Free Picls )                                    4                                             +9.830             +98.300

Punting4Profit       ( premium racing )                          111                                           +41.662            +871.964

BitcoinSupremo     ( free picks )                                     4                                             -0.378               -3.780

BuySportsPicks.net   ( soccer )                                       5                                             -3.000               -30.000

BuySportsPicks.net    ( CSGO )                                      10                                            +8.844              +88.440

Enigma Betting          ( free racing )                              108                                           +47.790            +955.800

Tipstrr free ( Lucky 7s , Gentleman ,Low Blow, MAGA)     69                                             +25.774            +449.552
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last week was just amazing , profiting around 1450 euros and most of these profits came from the hits that I got yesterday with a screenshot that I posted in the last post here in thread
it shows how patience is important in horse racing and as long as you are following a good tipster you should expect high returns in the long run
now obviously such days are really rare but it also carried my portfolio since this is my first time I reach over 1000 euros in profit since I started the thread here

I added wadster free tips which is a free version on tipstrr site and he posts there occasionally when there some plays that he is less confident about ( or let's say less profitable than premium )

Engima has been doing amazing with yesterday's hits , he share his picks for free on telegram in case you want to follow

also started following for accounts in tipstrr for horse racing and all of them are free and for one of the guys that I know , he is really good you can check his last picks there as well

tipstersclub still disappointing , I'm still only getting negative returns with them so now decided that I will only follow their picks when I find the exact same odds or better cause they are barely breaking even and some tipsters like Ardeal , Basten and Record are negative in total stats
probably will stop following them after my subscription end and then maybe come back to their site on December  to see if the tipsters were able to profit in the previous months

yeah I miss slots n go as well , we used to spend hours playing these but we weren't able to hit the jackpot so maybe we will after J adding it again
guess he is now working on adding staking for Clam investors , maybe he will start working on it after he finishes Clam's stuffs

I think there is a bug with the price boost , I took djokovic -5.5 tomorrow and the price boost showed the odds as X2.08
now I'm checking the odds in my bets and it's showing X2.07 at the top but also showing X2.08 at the right
calcuated the odds manually and found that it's X2.0699 so it's X2.07 , but as I stated when I choosed the boost the odds showed as X2.08

hope you consider fixing it , it's not that a big deal but still it shouldn't happen
https://prnt.sc/k6hnu0

I have no idea about Joca's premium picks , but he told me that he doesn't have record of his past picks and he doesn't know how much units he profited or what his ROI is
the pricing is really high as well so can't afford just testing it without having a solid info about the service ( as I remember 120$ for just 30 picks ) while I'm paying an average 25 euros for the paid tipsters I follow and they provide more than 30 picks a month with stable ROI

so can't check Joca's premium for the reasons that I mentioned , the odds for the picks may be low as well so basically I just have no idea at all how his premium picks work

how horse racing crazy can be ?!?!?! will this photo from my account can gives you an idea haha
had the most profitable one hour in my life , 1064 euros in one hour risking around 140 euros total in these races

https://prnt.sc/k6ez7h

following good horse racing guys is the best , I should update the thread tomorrow after I get back home from my exam you can see the stats for the horse racing guys that I'm following
it's a shame tho that only mbet has bitcoin horse racing

WOAH , just noticed the 30 free spins promotion going on and what a great way to celebrate world cup and wimbeldon finals !!
it seems i should keep an eye on the promotion page daily , I thought you update the thread here when there is a new promotion 

no I'm not an investor in moneypot and I didn't invest with them in the past , I'm talking about MBI that I invested in even before monsterbyte power moneypot

yes because the traffic is dead now and because the site has shitty max payout , that's why I believe monsterbyte will honor what DD promised
it won't make sense for them not to do so cause doing this they are wasting the money that monsterbyte invested in moneypot

the only thing that can bring moneypot to what it used to be is doing the right thing , I may be wrong tho but it doesn't make sense for me thinking that they won't do that in the coming months

yeah of course my experience still relatively new and can't judge , but as I said I liked it when he called out a X4.50 winner so at least from that bet I can know that he knows how to pick value instead of picking the favor?

I'm still not sure about the soccer tipster in the site , his bets so far were the low odds style which I really hate so probably won't follow the football guy there but I will stick to thezucc till I have a fair sample to judge

it's not about the win average , 70% is so easy to achieve when you always pick the favor like most of the tipsters here in the forum do but a high win rate doesn't mean profit especially when the odds range 1.1-1.3 ( there are many here that pick such odds )

the best I have saw so far is 9% ROI with normal sports and that can be higher in horse racing , so the question is how many units he is averaging a month
I can tell you even if he is super good with this price it's really hard to find any value unless your bankroll is 100K or so

lol everytime I see a tipster mentioning vegas I remember this guy who charges 25K$ a month for his plays  
http://www.vipsportslasvegas.com/

I know many great tipsters that take as a little as 25 euros a month , with a proven profitable tracked history
so why should your customer pays 500$ for 10 plays ?? are you realizing how big the bet should be in order to just break even ??

well that's the sad part haha , many people will jump in to croatia so they can arbitrage there and the price will end up the same or a little better than what other bookies offer
maybe check it right before the countdown start , if it stayed relatively high then there is a good chance that you will lock a good value bet

actually it's stupid that governments don't legalize gambling , like even here in Syria it's illegal to gamble but there are many that are gambling using illegal bookmakers in the country and at any moment these bookmakers may steal the money
it's better for the economy and safer for the citizens , governments should realize that gamblers will gamble anyways no matter if it's legal or not so they better benefit from it and protect their citizens from losing money with scam operators

yeah it's a betting on who will lift the trophy regardless if game goes to extra time or finishes in regular time
guess onehash started that after the group stage ended , as I remember couldn't find draw betting in the last games so it's not only for the final

hehe old users as well bro
yeah hoping the good for the site cause all the games are great , people still not joining probably due to moneypot current situation but this should change in the future
we should have some clams investors and players shifting to exo as well , I'm still waiting J to finish the staking code for CLAM

still don't get it , how people teaming up is considered a skill when they are teaming up in buying lottery tickets that the site take a cut from it
it's still -EV isn't it or am I missing something , if so please explain more cause I still see no skill involved at all