oh daaamn , it must be an interesting game with crazy hands over there.
anyways i just try the betking poker room , deposit and withdrawal all went smooth it was so instant, i love it! but it seems not much player available to play, are they in VIP?
yesterday's action was crazy , there was a full ring of highrollers playing for a lot of money and the table lasted really long the traffic isn't stable but you could find a game to play if you just started a table ( in case there are no players ) , I'm usually active from noon to mid night EET and I'm able to get some games running sadly ( or luckily it depends on you ) the majority of the players play PLO , but maybe we can get holdem going too for all the stakes |
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OP has been updated with last week stats as the following :
Site Picks Followed Profit (units)
Betting-analyst (horse elite) 191 +7.855
bookie insiders ( soccer tips) 84 -2.054
bookie insiders (tennis tips ) 70 -1.359
degen signals ( free picks ) 13 +1.340
no much new except soccer picks are back now but bookie insiders had a bad run in Sunday where they lost 6 picks and only won one but we all know these runs happen from time to time
horse racing is being stable but anytime it can drive the profit way up or down since variance is huge there
so far not willing to add any other site to the list till I achieve decent amount of units
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haven't used cloudbet for sportsbetting since long time , but yesterday deposited 0.05 btc played some casino games and then requested a withdrawal and it was instant
to be honest if you can find similar lines in other sites with similar odds then go for that and avoid cloudbet , they aren't scamming money but your scenario has happened so many times with cloudbet and they handle the problems so slowly
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I totally didn't get how this work , how am I supposed to get the rakeback ?? I have no BKB but if buying that will allow me to get rakeback I will do it for sure , or am I getting it wrong ?? can you please explain more Yes you must buy BKB either from hitbtc.com (we will be delisted on 12 april), from bkb token holders (check telegram, crypto trade groups or betking chat) or directly from me (pm for details). The BKB buy back value increases with dice profit (btc, eth, ltc etc), 25% of poker rake goes towards buy back price too. Now you can even trade it in for 20% rakeback on top of that. still don't get it , let's say I bought 1000 BKB then how exactly I can trade it for 20% rakeback ?? do you mean like I convert my BKB to rakeback or what ?? I'm not familiar with such things since all the site I play on pay flat rakeback so not sure how I can trade something I have to rake back |
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I cant play so much last week because so busy in real life because of Easter events here, at least I have collected some points already for the rake race so I'll still get some $  I will have more time this week so hopefully to see more and more players on the cash game (especially the holdem games because I dont really understand to play PLO games) without waiting too long time. yeah so far as I see only PLO tables were running in the previous days , lost a lot since I don't totally get how to play PLO good  the rakeback should cover my loss , but still I enjoy holdem way more and hopefully players will shift to it I totally didn't get how this work , how am I supposed to get the rakeback ?? I have no BKB but if buying that will allow me to get rakeback I will do it for sure , or am I getting it wrong ?? can you please explain more |
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Problem with bitcoin bookmakers are odds, you lose 3-5% in start and basically I dont use them for tipsters. As I have already over 14 years experience and managed to buy few properties off it, I will also write some own experiences during the day like how it went for me and what I overall think about tipsters.
cool , actually that would be really appreciated I guess since many here are interested in gambling success and experiences yeah same for me I don't use bitcoin bookies for my betting except bitcoinrush since they offer pinnacle odds and sometimes pinnacle has the highest prices but my other betting is all using fiat brokers that accept bitcoin like asianconnect and sportmarket |
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I am suprised you didnt mention some of worlds most popular tipster sites:
1)Blogabet- Excellent site with many quality tipsters but worth buying only if you have time to bet as odds collapse insanely quick.
2)Betrush verified tipsters- Some of best tipsters in the world. Problem is lot of them use b365 which gets limit so you need to include in the price
3) Betadvisor- personally dont like then but junior tipsters are good for begginers.
thanks for the list , I may check them in the future so far I'm starting small and all the tipsters I have accept bitcoin as a payment method , cause I can't pay with anything else beside crypto also sites that have more than 10 tipsters confuse me a lot , since it's hard to know who to follow and who to not |
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Hope this would also be an alternative in choosing the BEST tipster out of a list of tipsters:
6. Ask them to give/accept a challenge from a tipster of their level
To testify the skills of a tipster, it is necessary for us to put them under the rules of probation and ask them to compete with someone already having a good (or even better) track records than them. As it is our money we will be betting with, and even paying a higher fee to such tipsters, we do have the right to see if they are actually the ones we should rely upon, and whether they really deserve our money or not? Choosing a tipster is a very arduous task and we need to have all odds on our side and see if the tipster we trust - makes it through their years of experience, hard work and research or not against whom they compete.
well no I don't think so , as long as you have the records for both tipsters there is no need to make them compete against others I mean if you already have the info about them and you have the records you can use your judgments to choose between them , at the end there is no one forcing you to subscribe for a certain tipster |
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any update on how long could it take to fix the pre live betting , tried to bet on a tennis match and the system kept refusing my bet
not sure if it was only for that match or for all other matches too , but something defiantly is wrong maybe the odds aren't updating
Tennis matches would be different than any other sport because their start times are never set in concrete unless they are the very first match. This is because the next match always depends on the court that is being used and how long it takes them to finish the current match. Matches can even be cancelled right before a match starts due to the previous match running too long so they need to resume the next day. Betting on ATP/WTA tennis is funny this way.  and how is this supposed to affect the betting ?? all the sites offer their lines for tennis and they let you bet there is something wrong with the pre live betting as their support told me , so it's not because of tennis it's because of something wrong going on |
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any update on how long could it take to fix the pre live betting , tried to bet on a tennis match and the system kept refusing my bet
not sure if it was only for that match or for all other matches too , but something defiantly is wrong maybe the odds aren't updating
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I enjoyed reading your thread and you make a lot of sense, but I didn't understood a few things, specially on point 3 and 4.
When you are talking about ROI%, I'm assuming your talking about it's overall profit, at least that's how I usually use ROI%. So if a punter has 10% overall profit, it shouldn't matter if he makes more or less bets than a punter making 3% overall profit. Assuming he manages to keep his record, and you follow every tip, then you would be better with the one having 10%, even though he only bet on 2 or 3 games a week.
Seeing ROI% the way I do, I guess that point 4 would not be very important as well. Again, I'm assuming someone would be following every bet offered by the tipster. Some would have high odds, other would have low odds, but in the end he would get those %10 average profit.
Another thing I would find important, would be a trial offering.
hey Fruegaurds , ROI is Return on Investment so when you follow picks for a tipster that has 5% ROI for example you will be expecting to make 0.05 unit everytime you bet but the volume is so important , so if a tipster has 10% ROI that doesn't mean that he is a better investment than a tipster with 3% ROI let's take an example , if a tipster with 10% ROI gives 2picks a week and you are betting 100$ on each match you are expecting to make 20 dollars a week while if another tipster with 3% ROI gives out 5 picks a day you would be making 3 dollars on each match so in a whole week you would make 105$ so the 2nd tipster made you more money since he has a high volume it's just to clear a point that you should look to both ROI and volume and the higher the volume the better value you get point 4 is important too , if the tipster is giving higher odds than the available odds then he is lying about his profit and he may not even be profitable another example : let's say that a tipster gave out 100 handicap picks where he told his followers that the odds for these picks are X2.00 but the followers tried to find these odds for the picks and ended only finding X1.95 let's say the 50 of the picks won and 50 lost , the odds that tipster gave would break even but his followers lost money on papers the tipster publicly is a break even tipster but in practice he is a loser so if you see that example you can find that some tipsters may say that they have 3% ROI , but since they are faking the odds they may turn out to be loser tipsters about the trial for sure it's good when it's available , but the most sites that I saw so far don't offer trial |
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I dont know how i missed this thread before,nice idea on the thread it would be nice if you can add all active members that post picks to the OP so people can see in total how many tipsters are there,maybe even to add a pool too see who they like the most hey Joca , glad you passed by the thing about this thread is that I place bets on all the picks in the op so I'm also betting my money not only tracking if I started tracking everyone that means I have to risk more money but in the future I may add a watch list where I only watch how the tipsters are doing without betting my money until they provide a profit on like 200 matches count if your premium betting site is ready I will gladly track your premium picks if the price isn't high so far I'm paying 100 euro a month for betting analyst racing and around 60 euros for bookieinsiders thats why I'm only tracking what I'm betting on since the picks are costing me my money and I'm placing bets with my capital too My site took a set back because some people scamed me,but im giving away vip picks through telegram so if you buy the picks you will get pm`ed every day with a few of them i sell 30 picks for 120$ you can even add my telegram username to your list where people can contact me about the picks 120$ for 30 picks is so damn high It's not only that it makes the ROI harder, but if you want to ROI at all you need to have huge bets 4$ a pick means each pick has to be at least a 100$ and you need a ROI with over 4% just to break even yep thats why I decided not to buy Joca picks for now , hopefully he lower the price so far I pay betting analyst the most ( 100 euros a month ) but they average 4 picks a day with a good a roi so by betting 25-50 euros a game I should do fine with them and I always find higher odds than they publish cause they give the odds that are available in most bookies not the highest ones bookie insiders subscription is cheaper and it covers tennis , football , golf and MMA but I'm only going with soccer and tennis |
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@SyGambler. Good advice, thank you. Can you also give us a tip of who you reckon are the best tipsters to follow in the forum? There are so many of them, and it's so hard to choose because they are all winners like the traders in the speculation subforum hehehe.
to be honese I haven't got involved much with tipsters in this forum , the majority of tipsters here aren't posting how much they are up or down with their picks which is always a shady thing to do since it mainly means they are hiding something but personally I'm involved with some tipsters outside bitcointalk and I'm paying them some money monthly for their service , you can check my progress in my following thread since I'm tracking every single pick that I follow for them https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1800883.msg17941510#msg17941510great thing you share this helpful info , people usually make a guide like this in general . but i see this one more specific. i was used bet adviser long time ago here in the forum , i have got a lot of nice odds with him and wonderful winning, too bad as time goes by everything changed he seems throw everything randomly , that is my experience when i do following strange random tipster in this forum , the track record will never enough qualified as a pro tipster. so yes i vouch better to look for a member who have reputation already outside the forum and offering the service here. thanks for your words , yeah the tipsters I follow have reasoable price and tracked results by 3rd party software IDK there may be some good tipsters here but wasn't contacted by any of them , I liked some stats for 2 tipsters here but the price they take is so crazy to take so decided to not purchase any other subscription for now since the one I follow already are good with the coming days I may contact some of them here if they lower their prices and they start to provide full record of how they did in the past and I actually hope the community here will help with that , you can see that there are tons of tipsters threads and if we all start demanding the tipsters to track their results this will be way better for all of us ( tipster and customers ) sadly the tipsters that track their results here are mostly new tipsters and they have small record to judge |
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check out your notification to see if they counted it as a loss or is it just still pending , looking to your link it seems that Brasil de Pelatos won the match but not sure if it was overtime
anyways if the support told you to wait then that's all what you can do for now
Yes, Br Pelotas won the match on penaltis shootout. But, as you can see, if the match can never end as Draw, having Draw option available to bet does not make any sense. And waiting it's all I am doing  No stress, not first time that this happens and it won't be the last. And Onehash stills the best!  oh so it ended as penalties !! then defiantly there is something wrong with onehash system |
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check out your notification to see if they counted it as a loss or is it just still pending , looking to your link it seems that Brasil de Pelatos won the match but not sure if it was overtime anyways if the support told you to wait then that's all what you can do for now |
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@SyGambler. Good advice, thank you. Can you also give us a tip of who you reckon are the best tipsters to follow in the forum? There are so many of them, and it's so hard to choose because they are all winners like the traders in the speculation subforum hehehe.
to be honese I haven't got involved much with tipsters in this forum , the majority of tipsters here aren't posting how much they are up or down with their picks which is always a shady thing to do since it mainly means they are hiding something but personally I'm involved with some tipsters outside bitcointalk and I'm paying them some money monthly for their service , you can check my progress in my following thread since I'm tracking every single pick that I follow for them https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1800883.msg17941510#msg17941510 |
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Hey all, As we are in our final phase of testing and adjustments, we are recently altered our Mobile UI to better support just about all smartphone devices including iPhone SE. Here is the updated design for mobile attached below. We ended up moving the slider to the right and expanded our betting buttons below. The arrows on the left will open a sliding panel that includes the games chat and other pre-play settings such as 'sit out next big blind', ect. Any feedback, thoughts or suggestions would be great!  wow I must say that I'm amazed with the progress you made , it looks that you are really serious in launching a great quality poker site so far and from looking to your design this is the best site available in crypto , hopefully it will have an impact on the market registered for the prelaunch |
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are you asking about how to know the odds after you place bets on onehash ?? if so I asked the same question two months ago and got the following calculator as an answer https://jsfiddle.net/x1kpdhs9/1/you need to combine how much people placed their bets from the transactions tab and insert them in the calculator hopefully this may help you |
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to be honest when I choose a bookie I always avoid sites that have some history of shady acts , cause I leave relatively huge amounts in the bookies since some times you can find an arbitrage opportunity
1xbit may be good with some customers , but there are many accusations against them which lead me to never even register at that site
best thing to do is to avoid till they come out clean and at least be active in the forums again
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Beginner's luck from an account with negative trust.
the neg trust was for account selling , it has nothing to do with what he is offering also he isn't asking for money to provide picks or not even claiming that these picks belongs to him to OP can you please tell me what service are you using , I have a thread that track paid tipsters and I'm tracking them on my own so it would be nice if you can pm me the site to see if they are providing full track of their history |
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