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1861  Economy / Gambling / Re: ITALIAN LOCAL BOOKIES, BETS FOR YOU on: September 20, 2018, 10:03:14 AM
If you have interest for Italy local bookies, we can place for you offline. Also our service asia platform with high limits for all leagues.

I'm not really interested in someone betting for me offline where most of the times odds are lower than the asian bookmakers
also regarding the bolded part I guess nobody need access to asianbookies since they are already available to everyone worldwide through asian brokers ( except US AFAIK )
so to be honest I don't find the service interesting at all
1862  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io - Now accepting Ethereum!⚽🏆 on: September 20, 2018, 04:45:00 AM

Just wanted to ask you SyGambler on the status of your request (KYC verification) if you don't mind? Also, when you become verified with Sportsbet, is your withdrawal/deposit unlimited on a daily basis or is it still limited but with bigger cap on it?

I'm not a huge bettor but who knows, maybe I can become one in the future and this information would be very helpful for me and for others too.  Wink

I still have no idea , but I saw that sportsbet may ask for KYC in case you have a lot of btc in your account so I did the verification since I may start depositing more money with sportsbet especially that champions league started


The thing I've observed is that the people who win a promotion , or win a substantial amount in a promotion are generally being asked for verification.
This is a way of stopping people from taking away purely free money of promotion or at times could be done for genuine purposes. Either way the user cannot question the site as this is written in the terms and condition.

as much as I hate KYC but to be fair I see sportsbet the only site here in the forums that actually have the right to ask for it
not because of legal stuffs and AML BS , but because their price boost where you get odds that aren't available anywhere else even in big fiat names
thats the only good reason for KYC in sportsbet , like imagine someone having 10 accounts just to use more price boost

of course they may ask for KYC in different occasions as well , but I'm totally against that unless they suspect someone multi accounting to benefit from the price boost
1863  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io - Now accepting Ethereum!⚽🏆 on: September 19, 2018, 08:56:02 AM
any reason why you didn't accept my KYC documents while they are accepted in all the other sites that I know and have KYC ?
I sent you my passport which is on English , and a residence instrument that proves where I exactly live issued by the local mayor and translated to English by a sworn translator

is it because you insist on the bill or bank transfers ? I thought the purpose of this whole thing is to prove where the player lives and I sent you a paper issued by the mayor stating where I live
You possibly missed it, but the publicly proven Sportsbet scam is known for its KYC scam tactics! Cheesy

they didn't force me to do the KYC , I did it by my own in case I wanted to start betting bigger with them
and my account is now verified , support asked me for two more pictures one of them is a selfie holding the passport
1864  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Odds, units advantage | BitcoinRush.io Sportsbook | +69.61 units | 14 bets on: September 18, 2018, 12:56:59 PM
wow liverpool odds really dropped !! I was able to bet it yesterday at X2.33 , not thro rush but rush had a little bit lower odds than the other asian site I used
for today I have bets for all the selections that you chose
I took liverpool to win and Liverpool to score over 1.5 goals
took over 3.5 for dortmund game
and took Napoli -1

still watching the lines for Barcelona's game cause I want to bet BTTS but waiting for the odds to go over X2.00 , it was higher than that yesterday actually but didn't go for it and now the highest I can find is X1.93

anyways we should have a fun night  Grin
1865  Economy / Gambling / Re: MBET.IO RISK FREE FIRST BET. 沙田赛马 on: September 18, 2018, 12:50:12 PM
today I found 4 horses where mbet having the best price , and same happened yesterday
not sure if mbet changed the way they trade the odds but really good job guys , I like betting with you way more than betting with exchanges since I prefer betting btc directly and you have a running bonus as well  Cheesy

btw in case someone wants to write review about the site is it possible to get some info like how many users are active daily in mbet or something simillar
I'm still curious if there many people here who are actually interested in horse racing
1866  Local / إستفسارات و أسئلة المبتدئين / Re: قيود ومتطلبات جديدة | newbie on: September 18, 2018, 12:14:51 PM
الكثير من الاعضاء القدامى غادرو المنتدى من جراء نظام الجدارة لان الغالبية تنشر من اجل الكسب من التوقيع فعضويات مبتدى وجنيور وعضو وعضو كامل لا تصلح للكسب الجيد للاسف

العرض من المنتدى يجب ألا يكون الربح , من المؤكد ان الربح من المنتدى هو امر جيد ولكن يجب ألا يكون هو الغاية
جميعنا بدأنا من الصفر في هذا المنتدى وجميعنا كنا لا نكسب أي شيء هنا سوا المعرفة و تشارك الخبرات مع الأعضاء الاخرين
عامل المنتدى كباب للتعلم والفائدة وصدقني مع الايام سيأتيك نصيبك من الربح
أما غالبية التذمرات التي أشاهدها فهي من أعضاء لم يقدموا أي فائدة وليسوا هنا بقصد المعرفة وإنما فقط طمعاً بالربح و المدراء بدؤوا يظهرون الحزم بفراراتهم في هذا الخصوص

ان اهتميت بحسابك فستلقي الفائدة مع الايام ولكن رجاءاً عامل المنتدى كأنه بوابة للتعلم والنقاش وليس فقط الربح السريع والسهل
1867  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reason why 98% of sports bettors lose money long term... on: September 18, 2018, 12:02:24 PM
yeah to be honest sportsbetting is probably the most serious commitment I have ever been involved in , I left a horse racing tipster after a huge downswing that yielded me a lot of loss and right after I lost he start winning back and recovered like 60% of what he previous lost

but this is not the reason why the majority fail , it's just like poker and trading where a small percentage wins and the profits are coming from the people who are losing
so to be honest I can only see you promoting your service without giving info related to the subject that you wrote
1868  Other / Archival / Re: Investing in Gambling Sites on: September 18, 2018, 04:40:41 AM

I do not say that yolodice is good or bad but as far as I know because I have both thing with them. But there is no one are doing this as what you did. Let assume that they have no problem on their site, you may do this exactly good but when they are on maintenance or hit by ddos. This would not benefits us as investors or players as well. To make their investment as your secondary wallet would not a wise thing to do from the start, unless you know what you are doing right now

well yeah of course , but how often such problems happen ? they are really rare and so far I had no such problem at all with them
yeah of course using a site as a secondary wallet isn't that much recommended , but as I said I treat it as my gambling wallet and instead of letting the coins in my wallet it's way better to let them work in a casino IMO
but yeah I would be really pissed if I found an arbitrage for example and couldn't send BTC due to  site maintenance or ddos  Cheesy
1869  Other / Meta / Re: Enhanced newbie restrictions & requirements on: September 18, 2018, 04:33:58 AM
It feels like merits are more common on English boards compared to local ones, so I think this change is going to have a bigger effect on local forums. Are there any statistics on what percentage of merits are given on local boards?

yeah I find this true , at least for the Arabic section since it's the only local board that I visit
but also to be fair there are way less constructive topics and comments there comparing it with the English ones , not sure about other local borads but this is the case with the Arabic section
I'm still trying to make people post better there by rewarding the good topics , maybe we will start seeing better posts in local if members started to get rewarded there
1870  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io - Now accepting Ethereum!⚽🏆 on: September 18, 2018, 02:33:36 AM
any reason why you didn't accept my KYC documents while they are accepted in all the other sites that I know and have KYC ?
I sent you my passport which is on English , and a residence instrument that proves where I exactly live issued by the local mayor and translated to English by a sworn translator

is it because you insist on the bill or bank transfers ? I thought the purpose of this whole thing is to prove where the player lives and I sent you a paper issued by the mayor stating where I live
1871  Other / Archival / Re: طرق الربح اليومي on: September 17, 2018, 12:05:19 PM


كلامك صحيح ولكنه صعب جدا
انا لو بدات براس مال هكبر بسرعة وهعرف اشتري المزيد من البتكوين كل فترة
لكن كبداية من الصف بالشكل دة صعبة اوووووووووي
على العكس صديقي خصوصاً اذا كنت لا تزال جديد فالبدأ برأس مال كبير لن يقود سوا لخسارة كبيرة
لدي صديق بدأ المجال منذ اقل من سنة وبدأ بالاستثمار فوراً من دون أن يجرب المجال بمبلغ صغير وقد أدى ذلك لخسارة فظيعة له
الفكرة التي أحاول إيصالها هي أنه على الناس أن يخوضوا التجربة ويتعلموا في البدء لمدة سنة او سنتين قبل ان يفكروا بالاستثمار جدياً
صدقني الخبرة أهم بألف مرة من رأس المال وسوق الكريبتو الحالي أكبر دليل
لذا حاول أن تبدأ شيئاً فشيئاً وان تكتسب المعرفة المطلوبة ومع الأيام أنا متيقن بأن المال سيأتي لوحده
سوق الكريبتو للاسف ما هو الا حظ فقط بالنسبة لنا

قد يكون فقط سوق ممتاز للحيتان فقط

انا اتكلم عن التداول لان اغلب الناس تتداول في العملات او الاسهم او اي حاجة من سوق البورصة والفوركس انما العملات المشفرة وضعها مختلف
لا يوجد شخص يستطيع ان يخمن متي يرفع السعر ومتي ينزل ولا ينفع اي تحليل فني معاه
من الذي يستطيع ان يدخل
انها فقط مثلها مثل القمار
حظ وبس

الحظ عامل مهم ولكنه لو كان العامل الحاسم لما رأيت أحد قد نجح
  Winkحتى العاب القمار ليست جميعها تعتمد كلياً على الحظ 
1872  Local / إستفسارات و أسئلة المبتدئين / Re: ترقية العضويات on: September 17, 2018, 11:51:08 AM
المفروض انه اول عضوية Newbie
بعدها jr member
 انا كنت jr member

ناقص 10 merit  وابقا member

فجاة لقيت نفسي رجعت تاني Newbie

ازاي كدة؟؟؟

محتاج لميرت واحدة وستصبح جونيور ميمبر
1873  Other / Archival / Re: طرق الربح اليومي on: September 17, 2018, 11:47:49 AM


كلامك صحيح ولكنه صعب جدا
انا لو بدات براس مال هكبر بسرعة وهعرف اشتري المزيد من البتكوين كل فترة
لكن كبداية من الصف بالشكل دة صعبة اوووووووووي
على العكس صديقي خصوصاً اذا كنت لا تزال جديد فالبدأ برأس مال كبير لن يقود سوا لخسارة كبيرة
لدي صديق بدأ المجال منذ اقل من سنة وبدأ بالاستثمار فوراً من دون أن يجرب المجال بمبلغ صغير وقد أدى ذلك لخسارة فظيعة له
الفكرة التي أحاول إيصالها هي أنه على الناس أن يخوضوا التجربة ويتعلموا في البدء لمدة سنة او سنتين قبل ان يفكروا بالاستثمار جدياً
صدقني الخبرة أهم بألف مرة من رأس المال وسوق الكريبتو الحالي أكبر دليل
لذا حاول أن تبدأ شيئاً فشيئاً وان تكتسب المعرفة المطلوبة ومع الأيام أنا متيقن بأن المال سيأتي لوحده
1874  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: You cannot win in gambling on: September 17, 2018, 10:54:06 AM
I just had a really bad day gambling today with Roma losing a ticket for me and their odd was 1.20 and they were playing against the last place of Italian Serie A. I thought a bad day and move on and played another ticket this time I choose Brondby as they were playing at home against a team they had beaten almost always and the odd was 1.35. This was even worse as Brondby lost 2-4 at home to a team quoted from the bookies at 8.5

Now I am not an expert in gambling but this day was a really eye opener for me, you can never win in gambling. Imagine when you can't win in lotto , soccer betting or whatever you call it, you don't have a chance in slots.

mate do you ever judge a game due to a bad day ,it's possible to win in gambling as long as you are placing value bets
I was able to profit from poker in the past but I stopped playing and studying the game due to lack of time , now I invest my money in sports tipsters that are professional gamblers and they can provide you with valued info
check out my thread and you can see that I'm making some money with sportsbetting
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1800883.msg17941510#msg17941510

sportsbetting need research and analyzing , you can't get value or judge the game by just losing two bets on the top dogs
1875  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Cryptocurrency threatens governments on: September 17, 2018, 10:36:34 AM
Over the years cryptocurrency  has evolved into a global currency but governments are trying to sweep it's relevancy under the carpet. We all know that the eyes of the community are now opened to the importance and blockchain technology.

What baffles me is why are the government making lives difficult by banning or limiting it's use? Is it because it threatens the political power or are they scared it will improve the global economy or force the traditional banks to reduce their ridiculous interests rate which we have been robbed of for decades now.

What is your take on this and what do you think will make governmental bodies to finally accept crypto?

simply bitcoin enables people to control their money the way they want , some people in first world countries may not realize how important is that but I will try to give an example
for example I live in Syria and I guess you already heard about it from the news , there are many Syrians who migrated to USA in the past and now they have citizenship but now USA prevents dealing with Syria at all
so imagine if you are a Syrian who has an uncle or relative in USA and that relative isn't being able to help you at all with money simply because USA prevents that and they count all the transactions as a way to help terrorism ( as they call it  Sad )

so in Syria even the popular banking and wallets services aren't available thanks to USA : Visa , Master , Paypal , Neteller , Skrill ...etc
bitcoin created a way for people to send and receive money easily here without caring about the US ban and other banking related problems

in short words people who live in a first world country may look to bitcoin as just a way to make more money , but if you move to a 3rd world country you would know how important blockchain is and of course thats one of the reasons that governments hate bitcoin  
1876  Local / إستفسارات و أسئلة المبتدئين / Re: نقاط الجدارة ومن أين نبدأ on: September 17, 2018, 10:26:23 AM
على أمل ان يصبح المنتدى العربي أفضل
انا شخصياً اتفقد المنتدى يومياً واكافئ المواضيع الجيدة والمتعوب عليها , ولكن للأسف لا تزال المواضيع الجيدة قليلة جداً في هذا القسم
ربما لأن معظم العرب جديدون في هذا المجال ولكن آمل ان نرى بعض التغيير في الايام القادمة
نظام الميرت قد يكون ظالماً في بعض الأحيان ولكن في اغلب الاحيان هو منصف جداً وحافز اكثر من رائع للاعضاء كي يقدموا افضل ما لديهم في المنتدى
على العموم وعد مني شخصياً أن اتفقد المنتدى يومياً واكافئ المواضيع الجيدة
1877  Other / Archival / Re: طرق الربح اليومي on: September 17, 2018, 10:15:26 AM
بعد دراستي العميقة في هذا المجال
للاسف صعب جدا تكسب او تعمل فلوس من لا شي
لا بد وان يكون معك مبلغ لكي تستثمر
ويوجد انواع عديدة جدا للاستثمار ولكن لابد من راس مال

على العكس تماماً
أنا شخصياً لم انفق سنت واحد مني في مجال العملات الرقمية وبدأت من الصفر منذ 4 سنوات
حالياً على الأقل اربح 2000 دولار شهرياً من النشاطات التي اقوم بها
على سبيل المثال بعض الصنابير كانت تدفع 10000 ساتوشي للنقرة الواحدة في الماضي فتخيل كم كنت ستجني فقط لو قمت بتخزين ماتنتجه من الصنابير
المجال رائع جداً لكن يحتاج القليل من التعب والصبر , تعلم التداول مثلاً وراقب بعض العملات باستمرار لتعرف نقاط الشراء والبيع القوية
حتى هنا في المنتدى مع الايام وان اثبت نفسك بجودة محتواك ستجني مالاً وفيراً من الحملات التسويقية
1878  Local / النقاشات / Re: شرح كيفية الاشتراك فى الايردروب on: September 17, 2018, 10:01:55 AM
المرجو إضافة النقاط التالية
أولاً : الايردروب المثالي يجب ألا يطلب منك ان ترسل مبلغ من المال الى اصحاب العملة , إن حدث ذلك وحتى لو كان المبلغ صغير جداً فعلى الأغلب هي محاولة نصب
ثانياً : الانتباه الى ان الايردورب يطلب البابليك كي وليس البرايفت الكي
اي عنوان المحفظة الذي ترسله للناس كي يرسلون لك العملة
بعض الدروبات تطلب البرايفيت كي كي تسرق أموالك وقد لاحظت الكثير من العرب يشتكون ذلك في المجموعات العربية دون أن يعلمون كيف تمت سرقة اموالهم
لذا الرجاء الحذر
1879  Other / Archival / Re: Investing in Gambling Sites on: September 16, 2018, 12:08:57 PM
personally I'm an investor in yolodice ( I just treat it as my gambling savings wallet where I send profits from sportsbetting )
I always use the highest leverage which is X10 , this should generate more profit than normal leverage
it increases the risk as well but since we are investing on +EV business we should be more than fine with high leverage and as you can see the majority people there have X10 leverage

And how have your profits there been? I see on one thread in securities section one player/mod at crypto-games.net shows his statistics. Personally I also liked that casino and played every now and then, but for personal reasons I no longer play there. They had a good bankroll too.

Does anybody know what the largest dice bankroll for Bitcoin investment is? I might want to invest in the smallest, since this means my amount is the bigger share of the bankroll.

well I'm up 0.0047 btc , but can't judge it since I don't count it as a main investment and I keep investing and divesting so I have no exact numbers about ROI
the thing is that I store the bitcoins that I use for sportsbetting with yolodice so I count their investment tab as a wallet more than investment
for me it's better than leaving the spare btc in my own wallet , the profits from investing should be more than the fees I spend cause their fee is 4K satoshis per withdrawal most of the times

so what I'm sure about is that it's way better to invest in a casino that leaving the coins in your wallet , as long as the site is trusted of course
yeah I used to invest in crypto games but their bankroll is now way bigger than what people usually wager , so the profits are really small and as I stated the whole point of me investing in yolodice is just to treat it as my gambling wallet since they have instant withdrawals with low fees

I see. Thank you for that information. 4k satoshi fee for withdrawal does sound very fair - of course I only pay a few 100 satoshi if I use my own wallet, but 4k compared to every other site I'm in is actually the lowest. I don't know any casino with free withdrawals anymore, are there?

It does make sense that casinos make more money in the long run, but I had a bad experience with moneypot, which was the only investment I ever did with Bitcoin. I think it made money initially, but I ended up losing almost 30% of my deposit when they kept losing money to people who won big. I dread thinking if I had done x10 margin, I might have lost even more.

regarding if is there casinos that offer free withdrawals , yeah personally I use bitcoinrush and sportsbet.io and both of them don't charge any fee on withdrawals
bitcoinrush withdrawals aren't instant , sportsbet are instant most of the times

regarding your investment with moneypot that's really unfortunate , to be honest I made profit in all the casinos I invested in but I never invested in moneypot
anyways don't judge it based on your experience with them , you should do fine with all the other sites since all the ones I know are in profit and mathematically you are doing the right thing

it won't make fortunes but as I stated before it's better than letting the coins in the wallet IMO
1880  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tipster picks service discussion ( profit +4313 EURs ) on: September 16, 2018, 09:24:25 AM
Since Top Rated Jumps has a 90% ROI, I may subscribe and start betting against his tips  Tongue just kidding, but indeed as you said it's impossible to sustain such result. By the way, are we on the same page, ROI or ROC (Return on Capital). 90% of ROC would mean current bankroll at 1900 starting from 1000 in just 85 picks, but I cannot see how a 90% ROI is possible, unless he released one or two winners at odds of 100 or 200?

Anyway, very encouraging indeed.


the 90% ROI isn't accurate of course mate , it's just for me following only 85 picks and longterm it should correct itself
but in general this guy is a beast , he runs 3 accounts on tipstrr with 24.9%, 14.4% and 67% ROI so longterm I should expect something between 14 and 25%
you can check his 3 account here :
https://tipstrr.com/tipster/top-rated-jumps/about
https://tipstrr.com/tipster/toprated/about
https://tipstrr.com/tipster/top-rated-value/stats

one of the accounts is free the whole September if i remember right , I paid for the other 2 accounts 110 euros for 3 months
you can try it and see if it suits you , in general horse racing is really lucrative but it's dangerous as well
the more units you have the more safe you will feel , i wont be surprised if I busted like 1000 euros next week with racing  Grin

now since I follow 3 guys for horse racing it should be a little bit less swingy for me , but a time may come where the 3 guys do bad for a week or two and you will see me moaning here  Grin



Congrats, on great week. That tipster with 90% ROI is absolutely insane. Ride the wagon while it lasts Smiley

I'll have to tweak my game to include more sports/leagues. I am betting mainly on football and tennis matches from the leagues/tournaments I watch and it is getting harder and harder to stay in the plus. This weekend was ok so far with some nice results from Premier league (C. Palace win) and some Davis Cup Matches (Cilic and Coric to win with handicaps on the Friday), hope it continues today.

thanks brotha , hope the hot run continues this week as well hehe
the whole point of this thread is to treat sportsbetting as an investment , with this thread I don't rely on myself at all except with money management so hopefully I can prove that people can invest in tipsters and sportsbetting the same way they invest in stocks and other stuffs
I won't call the results accurate until I reach something like +50K euros , then maybe I can say that yeah it's really possible to win by just following tipsters
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