حقيقة لقد قرات جميع ردود الاخوة و وجدت اغلبها انه من الصعب تحقيق مبلغ 10 دولار يوميا بدون راس مال و لكم نفترض اني عندي راس مال كيف يمكنني تحقيق هذا المبلغ فارجوا من لديه خبرة يقيدنا بارك الله فيكم و في اي مجال يمكننا العمل و تحقيق بعض الارباح   بص لو في راس مال من السهل جدا ان تربح منه انا عن نفسي اقل ربح اعرف اجيبه 5 في المية يوميا وانت لو حابب تشتغل براس المال دة هتلاق يفي ميت وسيلة تعرف تكسب منها اخي خليك واقعي وبلاش كذب ان كنت قادر على عمل هذه النسبة يومياً هذا يعني انه بامكانك ان تحول الف دولار الى اكثر من مليون دولار في السنة لم ارى في حياتي شخص واحد يدعي انه قادر على ربح هذه النسبة وفي نفس الوقت يدعي بأنه لا يملك اي رأس مال اين الواقعية من الكلام هذا ؟ |
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لا يوجد اي تقييم سلبي في حسابك عموماً قد يكون قد حذفه بالمجمل لا تكترث للتقييمات السلبية الا ان اتت من اعضاء موثوقين فيوجد الكثير من الاعضاء هنا تقوم بالتقييم السلبي بدون اي سبب مقنع ورواد المنتدى لا يكترثون لهذه التقييمات |
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this should be basic sense for people who understand how wallets work , but sadly most of airdrop users are people who are new to crypto in general and looking to make something to start with for free
hope that every site or telegram channel that spreads airdrops make this info pinned for new users in case these users wanted to join another airdrop that isn't listed by that source
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Offer not good, odds not good. Please don't spam my topic with unrelated referral link.thanks
I proposed for asianconnect betting , not sure if it suits you but they don't limit winners and you will have access to pinnacle , betfair , matchbook and many more bookies if you are interested you can pm me , as I said I won't make a one single cent bet unless you send me the money first and we have to agree about the percentage that I will get for my time |
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haven't checked betcoin poker since the day they removed the WPN SNGs , so did you bring these games back ?? also can your players play the SNG2.0 with other WPN players ?
also I see you are mentioning rakeback just for cash games players , so there is no rakeback for MTTS and SNGs ?
do players have to create new accounts or do the old betcoin accounts work as well ?
my Internet is so bad at the moment getting only 30KBs/sec , that's why I'm asking here instead of downloading the software and checking myself
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Since this morning I am not able to login....
YOUR ACCOUNT IS DISABLED - PLEASE CONTACT SUPPORT
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I wrote 5 Emails since my webcam verification on Sunday.... No help... No reply....
please keep us updated here , my account is working but I was going to do the KYC so I can bet bigger with sportsbet and watching this made me cautious I don't want to send my personal info and get nothing at all in return , so please keep us updated if you don't mind posting here of course |
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glad to see some deep stats and discussions here in the gambling section , it's been a long time since I saw people posting stats and personal experiences
hope you keep posting relative topics in the future , the forum is lacking these kind of topics
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I think what you're talking about is matched betting, where you take advantage of odds discrepancies between different bookmakers to ensure that you cannot lose regardless of the match outcome. I would say that if this is indeed what you're talking about, then this is more certain than trading as you literally cannot lose, whereas trading is always associated with some degree of risk. Best to do both at low levels, until you work out what's best for you. Though the matched betting tends to have very low limits so you can't win too much.
no mate , what you are talking about is arbitrage which is yes one of the trading types but most of the times you have zero risk I'm talking about odds trading in exchanges , as I said like you see the odds are really high for a certain team so you take the bet since you think the odds for that team will go lower so basically you make money if the odds went lower than what you placed your bet on and lose if it goes higher there is a risk in these since traders doesn't let the bet run , they back the bet and then they lay the same bet at some point resulting them either winning a certain percentage or losing a certain percentage Personally I suggest you crypto trading over odds trading. This last one has high risks and you can lose easily your money. Now imagine trading, currency won't fall so much to leave you without anything. Imagine even if you invested in zcash when it launched, despite the price fall, you could still own something but you can easily lose all of your money on betting. For profit terms, for example take bitcoin, ripple... They had 1000x profit potential with lower risk compared to odds.
regarding how much to win or to lose , I guess both are the same but still not sure since I'm still new to it that's why I created this thread to see if any of the guys here tried both of these and to see what to expect in general I can assure you that even in odds trading it's really hard to lose all of your money , since you aren't relying on the match outcome but you are relying on buying good odds to sell it back to other people when the odds get shorter |
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Hi, thanks for your reply.
I heard about this service, I wonder if it is possible to place unmatched bets? I am using Betkeen myself (easysportbet.co.uk), I am very satisfied especially since we get a bonus every week we lose, however the only negative is that we cannot place unmatched bets.
By that I mean that if for example I want to cash out a bet inplay (on tennis), I lay @ 1.50 (when the player is currently @ 1.55) and wait for my bet to be matched. Is it possible with Orbit?
yes mate you can place whatever orders you want and wait till they get matched , I have no idea about betkeen but I'm sure you can do unmatched orders in both orbit ( betfair version) and matchbook you put the order and wait for someone else to accept it , so either you get the required odds that you placed or simply your bet will be cancelled if the game started and no one matched your order also there is a good feature in orbit that you can keep the order even live , for example you have an order on a certain team to win at X2.00 but the odds never went that high you can let the exchange let your order live so maybe you get matched at these odds when the game goes live and of course you can just unmark that option in case you want your order to get matched only pre live thanks for passing by , I will see your data now and decide if I will join you or not At the moment I don't have much time since I'm spending the summer with family and friends , but I may join you next month if I liked the stats |
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Most recently, I've seen many smart contract-based gambling games which live on the Ethereum blockchain. Some of them are Dice games, while others have a variety of games to choose from like Poker, Lottery, and more. Good examples of gambling games within Ethereum are EtherDice, vDice, and DAO Casino. However, I believe that these are not the only ones in existence right now, as many more are yet to come. Nevertheless, what do you think about Ethereum-based gambling games? Will they have a future? Will they become adopted at the same level of traditional gambling games or not? I would like to know your thoughts about this.  to be honest I hate everything related to Ethereum cause I'm not a fan of Ethereum overall the idea of smart contract gambling is good actually , but do we really need that ? I mean there are plenty of trusted bitcoin sites that paid out millions of dollars over time so that eliminates the need of a smart contract IMO the thing is that I don't trust any crypto coin beside bitcoin , I feel not safe holding anything else even Ethereum which is considered the safest alt |
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I think it's worth the time if you are arbitrage betting or hedge betting professionally with a good amount of money. As a hobby or a side income stream it's not worth the time in my honest opinion. You would be better off just putting aside some cash and investing it into a new shitcoin and making a profit off a pump & dump. You just write off that sum as lost at the start and if you make 5x or 10x the initial investment it's great. If not you can rinse and repeat with another altcoin till you strike gold. It's slightly off topic, but I think this is the most efficient way time- and money-wise to make some cash for casual bettors/traders. I am not a professional so I don't day trade or trade at exchanges.
thanks a lot for the advice , I got a couple of books talking about betfair trading and will see what to expect if someone decided to start trading the odds so far you and the other guy I know both have the same opinion , that investing or day trading shit coins is probably more profitable but since I like experiencing different types of making money I think I may try odds trading as well |
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Good day, I have been using Cloudbet for a few months now and it is a horrible and frustrating experience. They advertise that withdrawals are processed mostly instantly and on "some scenarios" it can take up to 24 hours. If only this was true... I am still waiting for a withdrawal of 4 days ago. They do have a Live Chat but they are useless, they only give you copy/pasted responses. I have never received any large withdrawal (0,5 BTC+) without having to go to Live Chat or Email support first. They try to calm you down with things like "Our relevant team will get back to you as soon as possible" etc... They are simply not delivering what they promise (withdrawals within 24 hours) and don't care about their customers at all. Sometimes they can let you wait for more than a week for withdrawals without any response from the "relevant team". Small proof: https://ibb.co/mCCXcePlease avoid them. I don't know any other good alternative gambling sites, so I won't mention any. Cloudbet might be fine for gambling smaller amounts but anything over 0,5 BTC and they are basically horrible to deal with. Hope this helps. I'm sure you will get paid at some point , they may ask you for KYC if the amount is bigger than what it's stated in their TOS in general if you can have a better experience with other sites then stick to other sites , there are many stories regarding delaying withdrawals with cloudbet so it's a common thing but the users got paid at the end so if cloudbet is the only site that you really like you have to live with it , casinos will always have all the reason to delay the withdrawals |
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I play at a couple of sites, some sites offer a great community, Support from the players and moderators.... To bad some sites don't offer a great community.. for example, "Bitsler" just recently a friend got his account blocked for tipping because he made a profit and decided to exchanged his bitcoin profit into another coin.. then he decided to tip his friends with his profits.. but the site decided to flag his account for exchange abuse and block him from tipping. Then we had people trying to challenge this decision on this site and we had a moderator mocking a user for their attempt to speak English and threaten people with a report to the administrator... and this probably why I don't play there much anymore. For me, if a site has a crappy community ... I won't play there much maybe... I'm gonna deposit, roll and ditch out with a withdraw... but if they have a good community... there a slightly good chance I might roll there a little bit longer and not withdraw "yet" =) https://www.change.org/p/bitsler-staff-justice-for-sully-unblock-sully-s-tips-on-bitslerIDK about Bitsler situation , maybe there was actually an abuse with the exchange like maybe getting higher exchange rate , but can't give a word since I don't know the full situation in general the coolest thing about gambling is the commuinty , most of my online friends are people who I met in gambling sites or here in the gambling section and I have trusted them with thousands of euros without even getting a one disappointment community can help a lot , especially when it comes to games where you can make money like sportsbetting and poker i have a lot of conversations with the people I know regarding sportsbetting and we always share knowledge and good services |
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Pinnaclesports.com 5
The best bookmaker office in my opinion, there are huge highs and always pay. Professional players will understand me
OMG Pinnacle started using bitcoin? That's a great news. https://www.pinnacle.com/en/payment-options/bitpayWell RIP these obscure shady bookies lol well you can always use bitcoinrush.io which offers exactly the same odds of pinnacle and there is 0 withdrawal fee also you can create pinnacle account with one of the asian brokers that offers pinnacle like asianconnect88 and by doing this you avoid the high withdrawal fee and you avoid KYC |
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Hi mate,
Which bookmaker or betting exchange platform do you use to place bets on horse racing?
Betfair Starting Price?
hey mate for horse racing I'm totally relying on this site https://orbitxch.com which is exactly betfair but for asian customers , you can open an account there using asianconnect88.com and you will have access to matchbook exchange as well which is great also for horse racing there is only one pure bitcoin site that offers racing which is mbet.io , I do recommend them but their odds most of the times is lower than betfair but sometimes you may find the exact same odds with mbet and you can bet with them best thing to do is to create account in both of them and shop for the best price always |
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OP has been updated with the following stats : Site Picks Followed Profit (units) in Euros Betting-analyst (horse elite) 237 -12.955 -323.875 (stopped tracking)
bookie insiders ( soccer tips) 219 +27.354 +703.285 bookie insiders (tennis tips ) 92 -13.748 -343.700 (stopped tracking)degen signals ( free picks ) 59 +0.474 +11.850 tipstersclub (alcuni ) 11 -2.400 -12.000 ( Stopped tracking ) tipstersclub ( Basten ) 114 -26.255 -262.550 ( Stopped tracking ) tipstersclub ( JPP ) 60 -28.885 -144.425 ( Stopped tracking ) tipstersclub ( Houdini ) 47 -21.588 -101.679 tipstersclub (IrishAssasin) 143 +1.267 -24.921 ( Stopped Tipping )
tipstersclub ( Record ) 71 +28.243 +245.945 ( Stopped tracking ) tipstersclub ( Ardeal ) 288 -132.927 -896.185 ( Stopped tracking ) tipstersclub ( DaveBets) 29 -15.537 -155.537 Joca97 ( Free tips ) 129 +7.572 +75.720 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002400.0https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881042.0Wadster ( premium picks ) 63 +36.184 +939.945 Wadster ( Free Picks ) 42 +20.112 +197.042 Punting4Profit ( premium racing ) 160 +37.713 +777.188 BitcoinSupremo ( free picks ) 4 -0.378 -3.780 BuySportsPicks.net ( soccer ) 5 -3.000 -30.000 BuySportsPicks.net ( CSGO ) 10 +8.844 +88.440 Enigma Betting ( racing ) 392 +8.985 -117.495 Tipstrr free ( Lucky 7s , Gentleman ,Low Blow, MAGA) 393 +62.498 +1174.028 premium tipsters ( premium twitter ) 16 -15.720 -157.200 Ron Williams Tips ( premium racing ) 31 +27.164 +543.280 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ +2183.376 it's been a tough two weeks , but luckily ended up profiting 50 euros after all lol Enigma is facing one of the worst swings that I ever saw , at some point I was 81 units up with him and now we are sitting at barely 9 units profit which means a loss for me since I raise the stake after a certain amount of units won I have added Ron Williams for my tipsters list , he is one of the best guys I saw on horse racing and he saved my portfolio so far tipstrr free tipsters are doing the best , the 4 accounts belong to one guy that I know on Twitter and he is a true beast so I really recommend checking his plays and it's totally free so you don't have to pay anything still looking for good soccer tipsters since I don't have much now , but I have racing and tennis kinda covered with daily tips so would love to increase the volume for soccer |
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Hi,
As title says I need people who can do sports betting for me in their local shops. They don't risk anything as I send the money for betting and they get % of each win. Of course, we will start low as I expect plenty scammers will contact.
I need to know where are you from, do you have enough time for bets, are you familiar with betting etc.
have no access to local bookmakers , but I have access to Asian bookmakers that are listed in asianconnect88.com if you are interested I'm willing to place the bets for you there in case you have no access to them and as long as you pay first and I get something back for my time let me know in case you are interested U were the one fucking begging him to give u money. Some shit was gambler that faucets for no the so he can bet like a bit and lose it anyway. Lol fucking scrub was noob. Gtfoh lol then grow up please , 150$ isn't a thing for you so why you are raging for it ?? he scammed cause you were idiot enough to not ask him to send you the money he wanted to bet ( as he is stating in op customers take no risk since he will send the money ) where I'm begging him for money ?? he is offering a business and I was going to offer him what he is looking for if he was serious so how I'm begging him for the money when you offered him a free bet while you don't have the money to bet you are just an idiot troll who trusted a random guy on the internet  |
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So recently I have been trying to learn how to trade the odds of sports using exchanges like Betfair and Matchbook
I'm still totally new to it so I have no experience , and I thought it may be helpful to ask here in case we have some people who tried both trading the odds and trading crypto
so in general I'm looking for experiences to know which one of them is better , or in other words which one of them worth the time invested to make more money
any feedback on these will be really much appreciated
Hey basically you're comparing gambling in sports to gambling in cryptos, you should know one thing for starters both work on a uncertain event which results may go either way i.e. One of the team can win, it could be a draw or rain may play havoc, similarly for cryptos a good news will lift it up, but a bad news will pull it down. In my experience sports odds are better, and my suggestion is pick a sport, narrow it down and then stick to it. To illustrate you my point, pick football in that pick EPL now pick Man City or Liverpool to win most matches. This is an example you'll need to study stats, form, coach, players, but it's worth it, I feel you'll make more money in sports odds. I'm not sure if I understood your post correctly , but in general trading odds is like betting a team to win at X1.80 for example cause you feel that the price will get shorted in the coming hours so if the odds went to X1.75 for example you make money and if it went higher you lose money You have to be very careful at betting exchanges if you assume the role of the layer, because you run the risk of getting wiped out in one unlucky lay if the liability you have accepted is too high. Normally, I would only back plays as in playing against the house - letting other players make their lay bets and then back them if the odds are any good as I would do at a normal sportsbook. Hedging is more easily done on exchanges though as you could better fine-tune the odds in your favor.
true and I understand the risk , but do you think trading the odds can be more lucrative than trading crypto assuming someone is investing the both amount of time and money in both of these ? so far I do only back bets as value bets , but still considering starting trading one of the gamblers I know actually told me that it doesn't worth the time to trade the odds and the time spent on crypto trading will be more lucrative but still trying to collect some info from different guys that tried both of these |
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Hi,
As title says I need people who can do sports betting for me in their local shops. They don't risk anything as I send the money for betting and they get % of each win. Of course, we will start low as I expect plenty scammers will contact.
I need to know where are you from, do you have enough time for bets, are you familiar with betting etc.
have no access to local bookmakers , but I have access to Asian bookmakers that are listed in asianconnect88.com if you are interested I'm willing to place the bets for you there in case you have no access to them and as long as you pay first and I get something back for my time let me know in case you are interested This is not the deal. Did you not read my last reply? Are you retarded? What he does is give u picks, that are supposedly of rigged matches. U make the bet with your own money. He asks for you to bet 200+ on the pick and even $200 wasn't enough he wanted $500 on the pick. Now you are netting this with money in your balance. If the pick wins, you give him half of the profit. If the pick loses you send him a screenshot of the bet and he is supposed to reimburse you for the pick. So you are supposed to have zero risk if he honors this method. He owes me $150 I was told I had to wait 6 + hours for him to get the bitcoin from some guy. Then he said he could Insta transfer the 150 through skrill. Once I said ok he then claimed my account was no t verified. Which it was and is. But hey he knows more then me about my own account. Then I told him he could go to paxful sell skrill for 90 cents to the dollar and get bitcoin fast that wsy, take any fees that it costed out of the 15p he owes me. He had another excuse. Supposedly I'm gonna wake up with 150 extra in my account from him, I ain't holding my breath tho am I the retarded or you ?? you just trusted a stranger with your money and this is not what the OP states !! Hi,
As title says I need people who can do sports betting for me in their local shops. They don't risk anything as I send the money for betting and they get % of each win. Of course, we will start low as I expect plenty scammers will contact.
I need to know where are you from, do you have enough time for bets, are you familiar with betting etc.
he is saying that he is looking for people to bet for him and he will pay , but you did bet with your own money instead of letting him send the money that he is willing to send I suspected this thread , but you are the one to blame since you did the bets with your money you did the exact opposite , you let the OP freeroll you with your own money so be careful before you accuse others of being retarded lol |
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here its impossible to buy bitcoin through cards or ewallets , so what we are doing is the following
there are some trusted guys in my country that they are willing to sell or buy bitcoin and they charge a fee between 2-7% on every transaction
or you can join a facebook group for that purpose where people buy and sell p2p , so you meet with the interested person and do the transaction
this is how buying/selling bitcoin works in my country
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