yeah I don't even know what NFL is 
would be amazing if there will be such promotion for soccer since it's the most popular sport and almost every single gambler know exactly how it's played unlike American sports

bitcoinrush is limited to what pinnacle offers , I got your point and yeah sometimes they don't offer all the betting selections but when they do over 90% of the times they offer the highest odds comparing it with other sites
would love to see rush offers all what pinnacle offers cause at the moment they only offer some of the selections , for example sometimes rush offers only one handicap while there are other selections on pinnacle

can't complain much about this but yeah it would be perfect if they offer everything that pinnacle offers

oh great mate , hoping you the best of luck with your site
if you need some info about sites just post here I'm sure the people here will help you with the reviews you make at least with some headlines for the best sites
will keep watching your list

yeah mate would love to see the reviews in hackforums ( I haven't ever visited it )
was hoping to know more about your betting style in premium , is like the one you are using with the free section cause I see a lot of low odds picks and not sure if this is how you tip on premium as well

is there any chance to have access for all the previous premium picks you made ? if so that would be great to have an idea about how you are doing

yeah I truly agree , but the only thing I like about Betcoin is that my balance is always stored as BTC not USD ( so I don't have to keep worrying about the price )
other than that you are 100% correct , WPN skins offer more and better games especially for me since I only play sit n goes and Betcoin doesn't offer all what WPN offers

if Betcoin wants to compete for players then they have to offer all the good things that other WPN sites offer

will there be any reward for the people who do good reviews for your site ? if so I may take the time to do reviews for the sites I usually use with sportsbetting
also surprised to see you picked coinbase as #1 exchange and #2 I haven't heard of as well while Binance is #4

heard a lot of people having trouble with coinbase and it's not accessible worldwide while Binance is the best and most popular IMO

oh thanks for making this clear , I didn't understand the site when I visited it and thought they offer tips as well
well yeah if it's hard to get the odds for these tipsters then probably I shouldn't join especially that I'm limited only to asian bookies
hope we can together find someone who is still not that popular , cause IMO this is where the value stands 

thanks mate , yeah as you can see some tipsters I followed weren't good so there is a grind and I'm trying to have as many good guys to follow as I can so I reduce the variance
I checked the site but honestly I didn't understand it fully hehe , still trying to see where the tipsters section is and where to see their past results cause I check the past results everytime before I check a tipster

is there any specific guy there to follow ? and is there any section in the site that shows past performance ?

hey Joca , is there any people here in the forums who are using your VIP predictions ?
want to know what people think about this service but can't find any vouch here , would love to know how is your style with the VIP picks and do you use the same style that you are using for the free picks ?

I don't really understand the situation here , I know that bitsler has good repu and yeah the rules are the rules
but still don't get what happened exactly , I mean even if someone had more than 2 accounts what harm will it cause if he isn't referring himself or using the accounts for farming ?

and as I stated I still don't get the situation , but this can also mean that bitsler is freerolling people that have more than 2 accounts
if these guys lose then bitsler takes the profit and if they win bitsler blocks the withdrawal

apologies if I didn't understand the situation clearly but there is lack of info given and I'm just trying to understand why bitsler did that cause just having more than 2 accounts isn't a good reason IMO

oh I see this thread has turned to tipping thread , can you please add the total profit/loss on your sheet also if you add the ROI that would be good as well
will keep an eye on this thread till you reach 400 picks or more and maybe I will start following after that
I have a thread for the tipsters I follow and you can check it out in case you are looking for something to follow as well
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1800883.msg17941510#msg17941510

OP has been updated with the following stats

Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)             in Euros

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                    237                                               -12.955            -323.875               (stopped tracking)

bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                   235                                         +14.754              +356.785

bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                    92                                              -13.748              -343.700              (stopped tracking)

degen signals    ( free picks  )                                    72                                          -0.036                 -0.900

tipstersclub       (alcuni )                                            11                                          -2.400                  -12.000          ( Stopped tracking )

tipstersclub       ( Basten )                                          114                                        -26.255                -262.550          ( Stopped tracking )
 
tipstersclub       ( JPP )                                               60                                          -28.885               -144.425           ( Stopped tracking )
 
tipstersclub         ( Houdini )                                       47                                          -21.588                -101.679

tipstersclub         (IrishAssasin)                                 143                                              +1.267              -24.921       ( Stopped Tipping )

tipstersclub           ( Record )                                       71                                          +28.243              +245.945          ( Stopped tracking )

tipstersclub           ( Ardeal )                                       288                                         -132.927             -896.185            ( Stopped tracking )
  
tipstersclub          ( DaveBets)                                      29                                          -15.537              -155.537                        

Joca97                  ( Free tips )                                   129                                          +7.572                +75.720
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002400.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881042.0

Wadster                ( premium picks )                            78                                          +50.395            +1,336.460

Wadster                 ( Free Picks )                                  64                                          +42.102             +438.932
 
Punting4Profit       ( premium racing )                          172                                          +39.643           +823.508

BitcoinSupremo     ( free picks )                                     4                                             -0.378               -3.780

BuySportsPicks.net   ( soccer )                                       5                                             -3.000               -30.000

BuySportsPicks.net    ( CSGO )                                      10                                            +8.844              +88.440

Enigma Betting          (  racing )                                    453                                           -4.956              -486.931   ( Stopped Tracking )

Tipstrr free ( Lucky 7s , Gentleman ,Low Blow, MAGA)     463                                           +83.482           +1,635.612

premium tipsters       ( premium twitter )                       16                                             -15.720              -157.200

Ron Williams Tips      ( premium racing )                        54                                              +10.917           +218.340

Elite Bet Syndicate    ( premium racing )                         21                                              -2.929             -73.225

Damir                      ( premium soccer )                          9                                                -1.222             -24.440
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so total profit is back up to over 2000 euros thanks to Wadster and my tipstrr friend who runs 4 accounts there and ended closing the week with around 740 EURs profit
these two are doing amazing as you can see with crazy good ROI especially Wadster who provides really tiny amount of picks but with crazy accuracy and crazy ROI
so if you have a good bankroll to risk then these two can really help you double your bankroll quick

soccer has been kinda boring and kinda break even , I really like Damir's style but wasn't able to bet all of his picks due to my life routine these days but I still believe that he has great value

also wasn't able to place all the bets with punting4profit cause I'm not waking up early and I'm missing pretty much all of his picks since he post the picks in the morning
this should be changed in winter when I have to start waking up early and go to college but so far I'm still having vacation with friends and family and I'm waking up really late

I may not continue with Ron and Elite Bet Syndicate cause they have kinda high price with low volume and they use clickbank for their payments that does the auto renew monthly so I'm struggling to find someone who is able to do the payments for me regularly and accept my bitcoins for the clickbank payments

still searching for good new guys to add , as you can see I have premium tipsters but also I'm not able to find their selections since most of the times they do doubles that I can't find with bitcoin bookies or asian sites
also subscribed to Boring Winners and he claims to have over 10% ROI but he mainly tips corners and these also are really hard to find with the bookies I use especially with the odds he quote so I wasted the subscription money 

again if you know any good site or guy please let me know so I maybe subscribe

didn't even bother with creating an account so I have no idea about KYC
but I opened the site and found that the margin varying between 8-10% and this is insane , you would be better betting literally anywhere so won't even bother with the site unless the margin gets reduced ( it should be reduced a lot !! )

huh ?? but you said that old accounts are still working so how not honoring affiliates payments makes sense to you ?
I don't have any active referral in Betcoin but this isn't a good way to run a business , so basically people who spent their time promoting the site won't get paid while there is a good chance that the players they brought will be playing with you and generate rake 

does that really sound like a good way to run the site ?

so is there any plans for the site in future , like focusing more on other sports and lowering the margin a little for at least big soccer leagues like EPL , Liga and Serie A
also can you create a telegram group for the community to chat , that would be nice as well
also I noticed that you offer betting for Bundesliga 2 but you are not offering Bundesliga so can you please add this as well ?

personally not a casino guy and for me to be honest I find all the casinos kinda offer the same service so they are all the same for me ( as long as they are reputable of course )
but when it comes to sportsbetting and poker then you need to do the research to know what site offers you the best service
for example in poker you should aim for good traffic , low rake and high rakeback in order to maximize your returns
and for sportsbetting you should always choose the site with higher odds and good betback or weekly/monthly leaderboard , this way you maximize your returns as well
of course the site needs to be reputable , for example 1xbit has really good odds but they have many cases where they didn't pay some of their players

in short words the site should be trusted and should offer you better service or better rewards than other competitors

at the moment I know none that have such type of games , but one of the admins I know told me in private that he is planning to start adding some multi player games where skill can give you an edge and I'm hoping this won't take long


well yeah this is true but personally I would love to try such games anyways even there is a good chance that I'm playing against a bot
the idea of doing something fun while gambling is still way better for me than just clicking the dice buttons

it's a challenge for developers but hoping they can figure this out

the death of bitcoin is a big word to say , bitcoin has reached that fee before and there were many who still used it
of course lower fees are better , but as I stated the sites I use pay the fees for their customers so even if the fee went higher it won't affect me when I withdraw unless of course they change the policy
and if you compare bitcoin sites with fiat sites then even paying 20$ for a transaction to be done isn't that high unless you are gambling low amounts since most of the fiat sites charge big fee ( for example as I remember pinnacle charges 10 euros on withdrawals and it's considered the most gambler friendly site  )

another great thread , thanks for the examples as well
yeah sometimes laying gives better payout than backing , the thing is that I mainly use orbit exchange for horse racing make this not helpful since there are plenty of selections to choose when it comes to horse racing

but yeah when there are 2 outcomes then it pays out to know what exactly to bet
this link can also be helpful to know the odds after commissions for both backing and laying
https://www.bettingexpert.com/how-to/calculate-betting-commission

well to be honest since I mainly do sportsbets then I don't care much about transactions and fees , all the sites that I use for my betting have 0 withdrawal fee so even if fee went to 20$ it still won't affect much
also I make like one or two deposits a month where I have to pay the fee , but the fee is really tiny compared to the deposits that I make

anyways if network got busy and spammed like it was before I guess dice and casino players are the ones who will have struggles since they tend to deposit and withdraw a lot and usually the sites don't pay for the fee