There are timestamps in blocks, that is used to compute the difficulty change (and blocks must be within 2 hours of network mean time or will be rejected by other nodes).

However that has nothing to do with this transaction. There are no timestamps on transactions.  Blockchain.info is simply (incorrectly) reporting the time THEY saw the transaction which even if correct will vary from node to node.

No Balthazar is playing academic semantic games.

The code was released under MIT license.  Satoshi has no control over either the original copies (unmodified copies of the code he released), or derived copies (improvements to Bitcoin protocol, altcoins, etc).  None.

Just to try and confuse the point Balthazar is saying that IF Satoshi could convince every single person who has a modified copy of the source code to delete it (not just Gavin, or every developer, but every single human on the planet who has a copy), and not just every original copy but every derivative copy as well (all the improvements to Bitcoin, all the alt-coins, etc) then he could modify his copy (the only remaining copy) and release it under a different license.

Essentially an asinine scenario which was pointless to even bring up other than to confuse the fact.  It would be like saying if I found every single copy of Shakespeare's works and destroyed them.  Literally every single copy, everywhere in the world, not a single tattered copy in a bookstore, not any copy on a publishers computer, no ebooks.  Litterally every single copy destroyed except the copy I own.  I could then modify the copyright page and release his works as my own. How would anyone prove that I didn't write it.   Of course that is such a stupid asinine scenario nobody discusses that when covering what a copyright means.

If you download a copy of Bitcoin (or any open source project) you have a right to keep it, modify it, distribute it, publish it, etc.  Just like the MIT license says in plain english.


Nobody can take that right away.  Nobody. Obviously like any other right you can voluntarily give up your right but it can't be taken from you.

There is no timestamp in transactions.

Blockchain.info is reporting the time it(as in the blockchain server) saw the tx.  Obviously something was wrong with their clock.

Good point.  pywallet is well trusted and vetted but even so pywallet doesn't need or ask for the wallet passphrase.  It simply creates a copy which replaces the encrypted private keys with placeholders and then changes the encryption key on the copy to prevent accidental unlocking as a precaution.  It is making a reduced information copy, it doesn't modify the original ("spending") wallet.dat.

If you are particularly paranoid you could:
1) Make backup of your "spending wallet".
2) Make a throw away copy of the backup in #1.
3) Use pywallet to create a clone of the copy in #2.
4) Delete the copy in #2.

Either that or read the source code.

Hey VLAD you don't have any legal authority to restrict changes made to "NUG".  "You" (and I use that loosely) released it under the MIT license.  Since I am sure you haven't read it, here is a copy

https://github.com/nuggets-project/nuggets/blob/master/COPYING


You gave legal permission to everyone on the planet to "modify and publish copies" of NUG.  This permission is binding and irrevocable.  You have no legal authority to restrict anyone's access to the source code, or prevent them from making changes you don't like.  In the future you may want to learn among a list of other things about open source licensing before "developing" anything.

Free software man, as in free speech not free beer.  Any costs you may have incurred have no bearing on the license and don't give you any legal standing to sue anyone for anything.  How about you ask your super hacker genius Bitcoin developer to make some calls to the FBI or NSA.  They likely can get you up to speed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_license
http://opensource.org/licenses

Makes sense to me.

Another version set to modern events/images ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsgaFKwUA6g

You do understand "your" coin is 99.99% Bitcoin right?  Your coin wouldn't even exist if it weren't for open source.  You can't prevent someone from copying open source code.  Anyone who knows how to use github can clone the repo in a few seconds, it doesn't requrie access or control.  Even if you do gain admin control over the repo people can STILL clone it and launch a copy in a matter of minutes.

Welcome to open source.  As far as closed source crypto-coin well that is an oxymoron however please ignore everyone it will be even more hillarious than the last time when you ignored everyone on things like you should have knowledge on how crypto-currencies work, testing, making a coin with a real purpose, etc.

Don't bother he doesn't want to listen to facts, he just makes up his own reality as he goes along.  You are just the scenery going by the Vladmobile.

You can ask for login credentials for the repo.  
As an alternative you could clone the existing repo into a new one and convince people that one is the official build.

Beyond that not much.  

The idea that someone is stealing open source code is kinda silly.  I checked, yup the copyright notice and MIT license are still included so the code is lawful.  You don't own the code.  The code is "owned" by the copyright holders going back to Satoshi and licensed openly via the MIT license.  How can someone steal something you don't own?

It has a "C" instead of a "B" in its name. For people who dislike the letter "B" it is a game changer.

Changed the title.  I would like watching wallet in bitcoind without 3rd party tools as well.  However that likely isn't going to happen anytime soon.

I never said the market wouldn't take care of it, just that you might not like the outcome.

One outcome would be block sizes becomes so large that pools >51% of hashing power run private links to each other in the same datacenter in order to keep orphans out of line.  That drives other pools out of business, the major 3-4 or pools/solo-corps grow even larger and decide to optimization of the network to simply exclude the blocks of any pool/solo not in their organization.  That is one way of the market "taking care" of the problem that demand for higher tx volume exceeds the capabilities of public peer to peer links.  The market doesn't necessarily care about the advantages of decentralization, transparency, fair play, and the "solution" arrived may not be one that most bitcoiners find desirable.  It isn't a prediction, it is a risk that is all I am saying.  As long as avg block size is low relative to bandwidth capacity between miners on open public peer to peer links there is no catalyst for such a move, there is no problem for the market to "solve".

Updated OP to use pywallet clone-watchonly option.  I have not encountered any issues in testing however pywallet 2.1.0 is in beta and should not be used for production without further testing.

If I open a bank and have a vault and I hire a security guard to guard the vault and the bank never gets robbed was the years of salary a waste?  Hint: the purpose of mining isn't to get free coins (that is just the incentive.  The purpose of mining is to _______.

For multibit specific questions you likely will get better responses in multibit thread in alternative wallets section of the forum.  I would answer but I have never used it so I don't have a clue.

This.  Not sure why OP bought it.  The purpose is to save space in a datacenter.  Single chassis in say 4U of space holding more than 4 servers.  Generally they are much more expensive and unless the space in your house runs $500+ per sq ft it makes absolutely no sense outside of a datacenter.

Almost everyone?  Bus driver, taxi cab driver, the waiter at Olive Garden, UPS guy, etc?  Or is "everyone" techno-nerds?

I wear have had a t-shirt with the Bitcoin BTC on it (actually says "BTC or GTFO") .  I have been asked at least a couple dozen times "what is that?" and only had one person recognize it.  At least 50:1 if not more.  Not scientific but if you think Bitcoin is mainstream well you obviously have already made up your mind so facts don't really matter.  Bitcoin may be many thing and it may go down or it may even crash and burn but the idea that it is already mainstream is just silly.

It "worked" for me.  The clone had no issues and when I did an encrypted dump of the cloned wallet everything looked correct.  Will do some more testing over the weekend but this should help a lot.