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7981  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: hashkill - testing bitcoin miner plugin on: May 05, 2011, 07:41:44 AM

I'm not going to install any binaries with root privileges without seeing the source.

Particularly not one from a hash-cracking expert, that would be a huge security hole, wouldn't you agree? Would you do it?
7982  Economy / Economics / Re: If all of the world's paper currency was replaced... on: May 05, 2011, 07:34:24 AM

But if they are changing rapidly in value, U$D is down 10% yoy to gold for last 10 years ... and that will likely be accelerating in the near future as the money printed the last 3 years blows the system apart, then why keep using a useless measuring stick?
7983  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Decentralize Financial Institutions - Part 1, Planning on: May 05, 2011, 04:12:15 AM
Thought a bit more after listening to fellowtraveller on the agorist radio links and have got to toss something out there ....

What we could put together ultimately is a platform, like LAMP (linux apache MySql Perl/PHP/Python) for web servers we need

a ROB platform that is nicely integrated (Ripple, OpenTransaction, Bitcoin)

They all do slightly different jobs, Bitcoin is the glue and foundation currency, OpenTransaction does the anonymising and instant account management/settlement, Ripple does the currency exchange between different commodities/services.

ROB ... for resource allocation information technology.
7984  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: python OpenCL bitcoin miner on: May 05, 2011, 03:36:50 AM
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I just want help then with how to OC the cards and manual fan control

There's multiple threads discussing that already ... and if you do go linux and really are stuck PM me ... i'm not going to say donate me because I think that is bogus .... I've given out free advice on linux/hardware problems multiple times and have never got one 1 bit iota! lol. Free market or bust, time to pay up for some people I think (not you necessarily).
7985  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: python OpenCL bitcoin miner on: May 05, 2011, 03:04:49 AM

Not really, without seeing/knowing your whole set-up. Does it boot up with all 4 GPU cards installed?

If it does and you are in linux did you look into the /etc/X11/xorg.conf to see if they all getting the drivers loaded ... etc, etc.

At a lower level

$lspci

will tell you what hardware is being recognised on the bus. Probably not a bug related to the miner s.ware so maybe somewhere else is better for this kind of system debugging.
7986  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Decentralize Financial Institutions - Part 1, Planning on: May 05, 2011, 02:35:54 AM
It looks to me like OpenTransactions has some of the machinery in place to do what you are thinking of, not exactly as you mean but close enough.

If you can get a OT server up and on the web (anonymously if you choose), and establish some community trust between nodes, then transacting in bitcoins (or any digital currency) between OT nodes becomes easy. Anyone running an OT server can essentially be a finance house and can issue it's own digital cash, fully backed by publicly auditable addresses on the bitcoin network.

The anonymising layer it can put on top of bitcoin is hugely desirable and will provide an incentive for nodes to come up, since they will get paid for this, and other services. They are a great fit.

Check it out, it's some neat code built on top of the chaumian blinding math. (Just got a java client added, "Moneychanger" but not yet with bitcoin support).

https://github.com/FellowTraveler/Moneychanger/wiki
java client

https://github.com/FellowTraveler/Open-Transactions/wiki/Business-Cases
business case possibilities

http://agoristradio.com/?p=234
radio discussion, FellowTraveller talking about OT.
http://agoristradio.com/?p=246
7987  Economy / Economics / Re: A modest amount of inflation should be part of bitcoin on: May 05, 2011, 01:50:47 AM

I don't think that is correct. Different block chains would be encoding a different set of transacations on the different networks right? So they would be hashing different blocks, they could be working on the two chains simultaneously but the work done for each would be separate. No free lunch.
7988  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: python OpenCL bitcoin miner on: May 05, 2011, 01:43:23 AM

Sounds like you need some technical advice and bitcoins. I'm sure if you put up a "Wanted To Buy" on the Market[lace you'll get urgent help if paying in BTC.
7989  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Nanaimo Gold - Shady Business Practices??? on: May 05, 2011, 01:32:14 AM
Classic story, trader got trapped in a rising market and found a clause to get out of it.

Is it really going to have to come to using escrow to deal with the exchangers? Just honour your quotes, the guy has made his best effort to get the money to you ... what has customer possibly got to gain by screwing around with the transfer, the price is not coming down, its going up?

Western Union deserves a -1 in all this as well, arcane paperwork.

FreeRad you are best off trying to find a local f2f dealer or OTC trade if you can do PGP.

For a guy who's not making any money, his fees are eye-watering.

Edit: have you seen all the info in these links?
http://tradebitcoin.com/

http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Buying_bitcoins
7990  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if receiving payments in bitcoins is made illegal? on: May 04, 2011, 11:20:17 PM
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I have not been dissing bitcoin.

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So if bitcoins end up being severely restricted as a form of payment for useful goods and services, I wonder if they would keep any value at all.

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I can see that people interested in this project range from the idealistic,  through sensible and pragmatic, through the very technically minded, and into the possibly well meaning, but incoherently ranting anarchist types (in my experience, usually the first in line for government handouts).

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I remain sceptical that bitcoin can ever really get off the ground,

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Bitcoins would become significantly less valuable, maybe  worthless.

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Even in a hyperinflation, a return to gold backed currency is more likely than adoption of bit coins.

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But I doubt it will be more than a short term fad in the real world.

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Buying bitcoins is like buying stock in one of those thousands of startups. You might get a Facebook, but chances are you'll get a fat zero.

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I think even I would prefer a hyperinflation as the alternative.

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Bitcoin can work because it has rules. I just don't think it would even be allowed to work in a big way,

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Maybe we get new bitcoin tax havens. Who knows. But it still points to niche uses.

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More than that I don't want to know much about technology.

Without even knowing how the technology of bitcoin works I struggle to understand why you think you are qualified to comment on legality of bitcoin. Everyone is entitled to an opinion though, so carry on.

We'll agree to disagree and leave it that.
7991  Economy / Economics / Re: If all of the world's paper currency was replaced... on: May 04, 2011, 11:01:59 PM

Well, using US dollars to compare is always going to problematic because it is going to hell in a basket and is inflating way too fast to measure anything sensible against it.

How about you use gold grams (or ounces) since it will still be around when bitcoin matures and won't have inflated much by then.

Imagine Jimmy Rogers 95 yo and still going, crustily popping up on financial TV clip ;

"Ah, today I like the hard monies, gold, I'm buying gold, I'm buying bitcoins, I like bitcoins, also I'm buying silver .... , the hard monies are going to be the place to be in for the next little while, we all remember what became of the dollar in 2012 ..."
7992  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: FOR SALE: PCIe 1x & PCIe 16x Riser Extender Cables - Free shipping to the US! on: May 04, 2011, 10:52:24 PM
What lengths do you have the PCIe x1 modified cables in?

These guys have up to 50cm but at some point the comms link will be affected I suspect.

http://www.ameri-rack.com/ARC1-PESX1B-Cx_m.html

Also are your ribbon cables shielded (EMI shielding) like these ones?

I'm up for one if length is longer than 10cm. If I can get 30cm would be great.
7993  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Bitcoin national radio campaign starting this week! on: May 04, 2011, 10:34:22 PM
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Someone please help make a 30 second recorded commercial to run as well.

Have you been able to contact justmoon yet, he's your guy for making ads? He's got contacts with people with 'ad-voices'.

I'm sure he'll be able to do this and might have some BTC to help also.
7994  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if receiving payments in bitcoins is made illegal? on: May 04, 2011, 09:58:42 PM
Oh this gets better, a finance write who's an advocate for gold. Well i've been reading about gold for over 15 years and there used to be very few who actually wrote anything sensible about gold and less than 1 in 200 who actually advocate for hard money ... so there's a high probability you must be one of those johhny-come-lately gold writers, who spent the best of their life scaring people away from hard money and in the last few years just found religion.

The way you are dissing bitcoin tells me you are definitely not a programmer and probably haven't much of a clue how bitcoin works, for instance tell me how does the public-private key pair encryption schema work in your own words and why it is important for bitcoin?

Then maybe we can have an informed conversation about "What if receiving payments in bitcoins is made illegal?"

You'd better get up to speed or you'll just look like an ignorant troll hard money gold finance writer. Bitcoin is a monetary technology that solves problems of pricing information distributions and optimal resource allocations, it is in essence an information technology. Perhaps you are out of your depth here to be commenting on technologies.

7995  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if receiving payments in bitcoins is made illegal? on: May 04, 2011, 02:53:34 PM
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but chances are you'll get a fat zero.

... a finance writer huh? So you probably spend a lot of time apologising to the public punters for the monumental feck ups on Wall St. and The City and then spend the rest of the time schmoozing and kissing ass with them.

... big fat zero for vision I'm afraid.
7996  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if receiving payments in bitcoins is made illegal? on: May 04, 2011, 12:15:20 PM

bye, bye troll ... c u in another nym?
7997  Economy / Marketplace / Re: CoinPal beta - Buying bitcoins with PayPal on: May 04, 2011, 11:50:18 AM

The effect of cutting Bitcoin exchangers off of Paypal: 

1) Users will still trade Bitcoins for Dollars.

2) But now they will be individually paypalling those dollars to each other, instead of using a central service.

3) Seems to me that if you have a supercomputer, and you have access to Amazon's transactions, and you have access to the block chain, then this move makes it suddenly much easier to associate block chain transactions with paypal transactions.

4) Basically if this came from higher up, the purpose was to make the block chain traceable.

5) Anyone receiving dollars in Paypal has a verified identity, taxpayer ID, bank account, etc.


I think it's time for Bitcoin aficionados to consider anonymity layers...


I agree.
7998  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: decentralized Bitcoin are highly centralized to mtgox!11 on: May 04, 2011, 09:06:37 AM

... centralised exchange problem is only going to be around during the monetising phase of bitcoin ... after a majority of users have got out of fiat and into crypto-currencies the exchanges will only be between the crypto-money flavours ... and by that time who'll care what business the exchanges are doing?
7999  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Bitcoin national radio campaign starting this week! on: May 04, 2011, 08:54:46 AM
Thanks for doing it! I've been a FTL listener for years now and I was surprised and happy to hear the ad on there!

Anyone got a link to a short clip of the ad itself .... ?
8000  Other / Off-topic / Re: FBI raids, confiscate computers, sealed documents, no charges laid on: May 04, 2011, 08:27:10 AM
Is bitcoin involved in some way?

Not a lot of details, since the documents are sealed but they have said "virtual currencies" are involved. Basically secret police tactics.
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