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7701  Other / Meta / Re: Designated "business etiquette" boards on: May 26, 2011, 07:07:11 AM

The anarchists are organising.


I don't think you realise how discredited anything with a slick PR "official" look to it has become after the rip-offs perpetrated from on high for so long. Sure make a "Business" section for the "high-rollers" or whoever you think it is that is offended by the bitcoin rabble but don't expect the vast majority of the people that are using bitcoin now to give a damn what you are saying in there ....
7702  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (450Ghash/s) on: May 26, 2011, 05:05:19 AM
Quote
slush's pool doesn't penalize for disconnects mid-round.

but your earlier shares depreciate so you lose out ... arguing over semantics here aren't you?
Your earlier shares depreciate even if you stay connected. They don't depreciate because you disconnected. And your newer shares have the same expectation with either scoring method.

And this isn't semantics. If the question is "If I often disconnect from the pool, does this mean I'm better off with deepbit?" then the factual, objective answer is a resounding "no".

Well that wasn't question, but you go right ahead and make up the answers to your own questions because that is how you operate ....

What factual, objective definition of "often" are you using here btw?

What factual, objective answer would you give if the disconnection, is "not often"?
7703  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (450Ghash/s) on: May 26, 2011, 04:29:03 AM
Quote
slush's pool doesn't penalize for disconnects mid-round.

but your earlier shares depreciate so you lose out ... arguing over semantics here aren't you?
7704  Other / Obsolete (selling) / Re: 2 x 5970 Sapphire, 3 x 6950 MSI 2GB, 10 x Visiontek 5850 ref, 3 x Corsair TX 950 on: May 26, 2011, 03:59:42 AM

Can vouch for the TX950W PSU ... it is well matched to run mobo, HDD and 3 x 5970's.
7705  Economy / Marketplace / Re: The Bitcoin Sun - Looking for Subeditors [10 BTC / week] on: May 26, 2011, 03:56:22 AM

Hi, I've read both issues of The Bitcoin Sun and I like it.

Except there are a few glaring spelling/typo mistakes in the copies I've read.

If you like I can proof-read, for free, for donation, advance copy, whatever. PM me if that works.

(I've proof-read scientific/technical papers in the past ... I think it is why the errors stand out to me.)
7706  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Please test: Bitcoin v0.3.22 release candidate on: May 26, 2011, 03:24:44 AM
This is just a suggestion, but wouldn't it be a good idea if development now focuses also on the usability and appearance of the client software? Maybe a slicker interface, make it as dummy proof as possible? I dunno. I'm thinking out loud.

You mean like linux packages in a repository somewhere?

(I got it built in fedora but god, what a mission, maybe a bounty is in order here?)
7707  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi's spare change? on: May 26, 2011, 03:10:07 AM
Personally, I find this more worrying. One person has access to a kill switch, huh? Was that in the wiki?

See here: http://forum.bitcoin.org/?topic=898.0

I don't know what state it currently is in (whether it prints a message or shuts off the RPC interface).

As I already said, I just looked at the source code, and all I see is "print a message".

So not a "kill switch" ... what does it do exactly? (not being a programmer recently)

Edit: don't answer ..... thanks "doublec", just saw your link to the alert key actions now ....
Edit2: okay, it is a beta safety switch ... when does it get removed ... at the Jan 03 2013 party?
7708  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: BTC Guild - 0% Fee Pool, Long polling, JSON API, invalid insurance [~250 gH/sec] on: May 26, 2011, 02:41:12 AM
https://mtgox.com/

Check out the graph from the last 24 hours.  Exchange rate fluctuated by almost 40% today.  Up from 7.6-9.3 down to 8.1 right now... The opportunists must be going crazy.  It's a good time to be mining, not selling.

Also:  NPR (national public radio) did an incredibly uninformative report on bitcoins yesterday.  Related?
Honestly, it was so derpy... They kept talking about how it could be used for money laundering, as there is no record.  Isn't the record accessible and very permanent?  Not to mention in the app data of every person who has the program?  Derp.

It was the same ditz from Slate, Annie Lowry,  that wrote the hatchet job piece the other day calling bitcoiners "privacy freaks" .... http://www.slate.com/id/2294980

.... maybe someone should invade her financial privacy to give her a taste of what she advocates?
7709  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (450Ghash/s) on: May 26, 2011, 02:26:28 AM
we have lift off...

The dc's are annoying, but my main concern is when the pool goes down for however long it does my card goes from 71c to mid 40c and having that every now and then worries me about my hardware. I want a steady temp on my gpu no 70 and 40ish back to 70. I am sure its not good for the gpu.

This is a valid concern. What I do is run a secondary instance of the miner program on the same GPU pointing at another pool with a much lower aggression, -f or whatever, so it sits in the background and when the primary pool crashes it gets all the available processor and ramps up ... net result temp. on GPU is constant.

Deepbit.net is good pool to point your secondary process at since it pays per share and doesn't penalise for disconnects mid-round and it makes few bitcents now and then ...
7710  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Pizza for bitcoins? on: May 26, 2011, 02:15:54 AM
http://heliacal.net/~solar/bitcoin/pizza/.t/IMG_0988.html

Luv this pic .... symbolic hand of humanity reaching for bitcoin? (This is the actual 10,000 BTC pizza I assume since laszlo has linked to it.)
7711  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi's spare change? on: May 26, 2011, 01:48:53 AM
I believe Gavin has the alert key now.

Personally, I find this more worrying. One person has access to a kill switch, huh? Was that in the wiki?

Talk about a central point of failure.

Maybe this could be arranged so that 4 or 5 people need to push the button simultaneously .... not that I doubt Gavin's integrity but evil forces know exactly where to apply pressure, and it ain't by building massive hashing machines.
7712  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Mining server room (cooling development help) on: May 26, 2011, 01:38:45 AM

Definitely out of his depth ... but it is the best way to learn how to swim with the big boys .... good luck ... go for it!

Hint: blow the heat out up through the ceiling as much as possible and bring the new air in through the floor ... heat rises, the top stacks will be hottest ... good luck.
Q. = m. Cp delta T

If you can't change temp. difference you gotta move more fluid (air).
7713  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What happens if this hardware crunch keeps going? on: May 26, 2011, 01:20:03 AM

Open-loop feedback ... this thing is out of control!!!!!!

It's gonna consume all the computing resources on the planet and then eat the moon and the sun ... and then what will happen to carbon emission, huh? Have you thought about that?

Most likely it is gonna get so big no-one's gonna fuck with it .... which was the intention methinks.
7714  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Ubuntu Natty Narwhal 11.04 Mining Guide / HOWTO on: May 26, 2011, 01:16:44 AM
minute_of_angle, I tried your suggestion and in the end the xorg.conf was repopulated with the same sections that were present prior to deletion. Still having the same issue in that fglrxinfo detects the card correctly, but clinfo / any of the miners are unable to do so.

If
Code:
aticonfig --lsa
returns all the cards as present then the fglrx drivers have loaded

try a
$export DISPLAY=0:

and see if the CLinfo sees it. If not you problems are with OpenCL .... which SDK?

Have you set the env. variables correctly ... for SDK2.1 installed at /opt/
Code:
ATISTREAMSDKROOT=/opt/ati-stream-sdk-v2.1-lnx64
Code:
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/ati-stream-sdk-v2.1-lnx64/lib/x86_64
7715  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Ubuntu Natty Narwhal 11.04 Mining Guide / HOWTO on: May 26, 2011, 12:48:26 AM
If you can get a terminal up do a

Code:
$less /var/log/Xorg.0.log

scroll down just a little and you'll see where the PCI addresses are detected ... one of those addresses will have an asterisk, *, next to it ... this is your default display adapter.

Make sure that address is the one in the base "Device" section of xorg.conf

Code:
Section "Device"
        Identifier  "aticonfig-Device[0]-0"
        Driver      "fglrx"
        BusID       "PCI:3:0:0"    <----------- put default PCI address here
EndSection

Because the PCI addresses change when cards are moved around, new cards, added, change slots, etc, what I do is delete all other reference to devices, screens and monitors except the default one (i.e. begin with minimal xorg.conf that references only the default adapter address and run


Code:
$aticonfig --initial -f --adapter=all

and it populates all the other instances as necessary.

E.g. begin with this
Code:
Section "ServerLayout"
        Identifier     "aticonfig Layout"
        Screen      0  "aticonfig-Screen[0]-0" 0 0
EndSection

Section "Module"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier   "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0"
        Option      "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver"
        Option      "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor"
        Option      "DPMS" "true"
EndSection

Section "Device"
        Identifier  "aticonfig-Device[0]-0"
        Driver      "fglrx"
        BusID       "PCI:3:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0]-0"
        Device     "aticonfig-Device[0]-0"
        Monitor    "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0"
        DefaultDepth     24
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     24
        EndSubSection
EndSection

where the BusID in section "Device" is that of the default device asterisked in "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" .... and run a "aticonfig --initial --adapter=all -f"  as detailed above ... reboot or restart X and see what you got ...
7716  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi's spare change? on: May 26, 2011, 12:06:46 AM


As far as early users using their bitcoins for ill, given there will always be people who are far wealthier than them, I don't think that's something we really need to worry about. Do you stay up all night thinking of all the things the oil sheiks in the Middle East can do when you buy gasoline?



Exactly. If twenty percent of the bitcoins in existence are controlled by a very few people, that's actually a very equitable distribution, a good and just start for the economy.

Globally, the top two percent of wealthy people control 50% of the world's riches. Bitcoin is a communist dream compared to the real world.

+1 ... take a look around, wise up, the evil elite are already in control.
7717  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: May 25, 2011, 07:41:45 PM

This is what a 21st century monetary system looks like people ....  Grin
7718  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi's spare change? on: May 25, 2011, 07:22:36 PM
Scenarios (assuming btc takes off big time)

1 - btc originators method of staying anonymous wasn't as good as thought.  Secret ops team from a fringe political group acquires 12% of world economy (possibly creating a more terrible master then our current state)
2 - btc originators have their own crazy ideas on how the world should run (use that polX from earlier post), and use 12% of the economy to make it happen (possibly creating a more terrible master then our current state)
3 - I'm a major company considering leveraging btc for a multi-billion dollar insurance binder.... of wait we can't.... some crazy dudes who hang out in teh shadows and possibly have crazy political ideology (or some weird god complex) hold 12% of the currency, therefore too much risk
4 - Give me more time and I'll dream up more of these.


You're right.  It isn't ANY of MY business.  What is my business is possibly using this to generate a ground swell to restart the block.  I know this is a radical departure, but I ultimately want to see btc succeed in a massive way.  I don't see it succeeding with 24% now, 12% in 2045 (or whenever the block stops rewarding coins (non-fee ones)) of the currency being in a state of complete unknown.

my 00.02 btc

do you even have 0.02btc ?

you come across sounding a little unhinged ... and from me, that is saying something ... no offence intended, truly.
7719  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: HD 5970 replacement fans on: May 25, 2011, 07:16:42 PM
I have not found a source for the 5970 coolers at all... The Arctive Cooling ones are out of stock everywhere and of course it's impossible to buy the reference cooler.  No one else seems to make an aftermarket cooler for them, either.  I would definitely be interested in locating a source. 

its standard turbine.
visit your vendor service center or order one via internet.
you can also buy slightly more powerful thing Tongue

reference, link ?
7720  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity on: May 25, 2011, 01:57:39 PM
The double-vertical-line B, like in your avatar BW actually reminds me too much of the cartoon "Richie Rich".

Exactly, the sound I hear in my brain when I see it is "cha-ching!"

Exactly, it needs to have two lines of security to be real money ... Atlas Shrugged.

One for public key other for private key ... cha ..... ching.
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