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Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is synthetic indices market
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on: September 11, 2020, 03:44:45 PM
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Okay... but, if you're going to copy and paste the same text around multiple threads, couldn't you at least make it cohesive or complete at all?
Fragmented sentences and a fragmented paragraph combine to fragment my train of thought.
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Other / Meta / Re: AI writing messages on Bitcointalk.org
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on: September 11, 2020, 09:54:01 AM
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Well, you said merit earners. Normally that would imply someone who has earned merits but to avoid getting too far into the weeds we could just agree on a number. It would be a fun experiment. If nothing else I hope to be impressed by the content that I generate: I've already seen some incredible things coming out of GPT-2 and 3. And hopefully, we're able to see just how sneaky an account farmer could be. |
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Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀 Sportsbet.io - Proud partner of Southampton FC 🚀
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on: September 11, 2020, 09:47:10 AM
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The previous day showed the participant pool dropping by 2 participant(s), from 72 to 70. Those that were dropped are the following:
Remaining participants just got their final prize increased by 2.85%, to 14.28 mBTC As a reminder, the list of participants that are still in here: 040****n
act****e
aki****3
ant****v
bho****y
bor****s
Bor****s
cal****i
cdy****7
cha****l
cho****o
cry****y
dea****y
din****o
dog****d
Dog****y
Dou****9
DRE****s
fid****7
fum****o
hab****o
har****5
hir****5
hir****9
hnk****1
hop****r
jon****4
jos****7
kii****5
kim****8
Kiy****0
koi****i
mar****e
mas****8
mha****a
mos****2
mum****n
nag****9
nik****3
no4****5
nok****5
noz****m
rai****5
raj****r
ral****4
ren****8
rrs****a
ryo****x
ryu****u
sab****3
SHI****7
shi****i
shi****6
shi****4
sit****m
soj****r
sun****n
Sus****n
Swe****2
taa****o
tak****9
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ten****3
ume****n
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Economy / Digital goods / Re: Platinum stake account for sale
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on: September 11, 2020, 04:55:44 AM
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40$/day or 4$ every hour for 1 week, thats what you missed out on.
cheers
What a catchy phrase but I think it's more of a clickbait to me. It's smart: the reload will be active for some duration, but the user will have to buy both the Stake account and the Telegram account linked to the reload... unless they expect the guy to start managing it for them, to which they'll find that the reload steadily decreases when their wagering activity plummets after the bets stop. Bait and switch. |
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Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: primedice scam 2020
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on: September 11, 2020, 04:51:47 AM
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"Give me the username to this account! Here's the email."
"Uh... I don't have access to the email, but just give me the username."
"You're scammers!"
... right?
Gotta thank OP for the free advertising: Primedice cares about the security of their players.
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Other / Meta / Re: AI writing messages on Bitcointalk.org
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on: September 11, 2020, 04:41:13 AM
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I should've known, turns out you can get into top 20% with 10 merits LOL. Not a very convincing argument I'm afraid. But I'd still be willing to take a symbolic bet on that. So you're saying one month to get 10 merits and the account gets merited twice by me? Say $100 on that? What if I told you that you would lose before you even accepted the bet?  One could also argue that adding a winning condition that relies on one participant's voluntary action could push the odds in their direction significantly... but I can assume good faith with spreading merit around. (And top 20% is different depending on your sample, whether it's the set of all users or the subset within, of all users that have earned >0 merit) |
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Other / Meta / Re: AI writing messages on Bitcointalk.org
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on: September 11, 2020, 04:32:11 AM
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Sounds like you're offering a bet. Did everyone see actmyname offering a bet here?  It sure would be an interesting change to start posting in shit boards but I don't know if I would want to do it for too long... I might accidentally report my own posts when I scour those threads. How much are you willing to put on being able to get into the top 20% and how much time would you need? Granted there is a bit of a risk getting your account banned if it goes pear shaped... Considering the fact that you don't need to post much better than what you get from minimal effort, earning merit is probably a really easy feat. Maybe you'd even merit the account a couple times within its first month of posting. Don't test my optimization algorithm! |
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Other / Meta / Re: AI writing messages on Bitcointalk.org
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on: September 11, 2020, 04:17:53 AM
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Right now they're somewhat limited by the human effort required. Given a feasible AI they'd likely try to hit certain targets of posts per day etc that are much higher than what's possible for humans. If it looks like a human and writes like a human... and is human-aided in their responses to seem as human as possible... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Think of Skynet but with posts instead of nukes. Then we'll dress LoyceV up as a Terminator and send him back in time to deal with this shit. And this is what separates the screenwriters from the scientific writers.
If someone wanted to, they could post at the same quality as someone who would be in the top 20th percentile of merit earners with the help of GPT-3. This is not to say that the model itself can generate enough cohesive content. |
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Other / Meta / Re: AI writing messages on Bitcointalk.org
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on: September 11, 2020, 03:50:10 AM
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But they would have to remember always give the "gambling is pointless" prompt to the model because the AI won't keep track of all the lies it makes up, the botherder will have to. Few people, if any, are going to keep track of people's opinions in the .* discussion sections. If you think that it's anything other than a strange solidarity of signature spammers in the spam megathreads, creating fake shitty discussions and replying to one another, then you should report some more posts. Or they would sound really schizo after a few posts, which TBH isn't that different from regular shitposters but would probably stand out due to seemingly intelligent word salad combined with a total lack of personality. If it could slip in some "sirs" and misspelled words maybe it would be more realistic. I think you could probably make several accounts with a few minutes of human-guided generation for each lengthy post. The real test would be how many merits such a farmer would earn before the account gets outed and if it would be worth the expense. At a certain point it, the posts are high enough quality where even if it's not legitimately generated, no one would know the difference and there is no "real" problem. This was how I saw merit abuse: if someone's going to create high-quality posts, then let them do it... that's the point. |
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Other / Meta / Re: Why does SMF create post have an Insert Flash button?
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on: September 11, 2020, 03:29:47 AM
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The shadow button is another one that is useless. There are a few SMF features that are missing from this, actually... most of the reasons that anything is disabled is for security purposes. Can you give an example of the text allign thing too? I think the BBCode interpreter is either very complex or so few lines it'd be hard to set such constraints but I could be wrong. [(anything)][right]{text} will not apply the left tag to inner text. Input: [b][left]text[/left][/b] Output: text [/b] |
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Other / Meta / Re: AI writing messages on Bitcointalk.org
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on: September 11, 2020, 03:20:25 AM
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I can see how it could potentially do some interesting stuff with some effort however I doubt that's within the reach of Bitcointalk account farmers. Here is an example of something that I generated within a few tries and it's probably better than most of the things that I could write. Honestly, it's quite a good piece of text: I think gambling is a silly and pointless pastime. And not just because I'm not very good at it. There are many reasons why gambling does not appeal to me, but the biggest one is that people don't seem to understand what they're doing when they gamble. It seems to me that when people gamble, they are basically hoping for something good to happen. There is an element of risk involved with this hope, so it's not a stupid or irrational thing to do.
But I don't see how gambling makes sense. When you gamble, you're hoping for something good to happen from the very beginning. You are hoping that Lady Luck will smile upon you and grant your wish. But what if Lady Luck doesn't smile on you? Then, in your mind, gambling has turned into an activity with very little or no reward. It's like standing outside a candy store and hoping that the owner would let you buy all of their delicious sweets.
The worst part is that people don't understand this. They think that they're being clever when they gamble, but in reality, their cleverness only goes as far as the rules of the game. But this is not how most people see gambling. They think that they're being risk-taking and greedy, and hope to win something big.
If you were an account farmer in one of the many spam boards or megathreads, this would let you blend in with minimal effort. |
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Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Fibonacci Retracement for dummies
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on: September 10, 2020, 01:43:52 PM
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I didn't know where the 0.618 actually came from (thought it was something to do with the sequence but) the 34/55 =0.618 is quite nice.... 1 / 1.618 = 0.618 When you solve the quadratic equation x 2 - x - 1 = 0, you get [1 +- sqrt(5)]/2, of which the positive gives you the golden ratio. And obviously, since 1.618 is the multiplier for ascending terms, the other direction would give you the reciprocal. |
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Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀 Sportsbet.io - Proud partner of Southampton FC 🚀
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on: September 10, 2020, 10:28:54 AM
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The previous day showed the participant pool dropping by 1 participant, from 73 to 72. Those that were dropped are the following:
Remaining participants just got their final prize increased by 1.38%, to 13.88 mBTC It's tough competition now! People aren't dropping out as quickly anymore. |
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Economy / Economics / Re: [POEM] Is that all?
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on: September 10, 2020, 06:32:49 AM
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I'm not familiar with english poetry,so I can't decide how good or bad your poem is. It's bad, just so you know. Sorry OP, had to be blunt. Forced rhymes make a piece of text strained, because the form does not fit the medium and yet your mind is forced to compromise with the flaws. Plus, continuous same-end rhyming bores the mind. ... and the second line doesn't follow any pattern. |
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Other / Meta / Re: AI writing messages on Bitcointalk.org
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on: September 10, 2020, 02:09:54 AM
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A GPT-3-written article here. It's boring and repetitive. I would've run out of attention pretty rapidly. More relevant, this was collated from several articles it created and fed the opening paragraph so it looks like it still has a way to go. Any amount of human assistance vastly improves the potential of the output for GPT-3 generations. You can develop some very linguistically-appealing sentences from the generation. Obviously, to avoid the aimlessness you do require hand-picking the sentences but someone could still easily use it in the forum with a few sentences, since the level of discourse isn't that high in most threads. With the previous iteration, GPT-2, you can already generate some interesting content, albeit again with a lot of guidance. |
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Economy / Securities / Re: im looking for partner who will invest
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on: September 07, 2020, 11:03:20 PM
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10% profit a day!? Where do i sign up!!!??? At your local ponzi scheme. Don't worry: it's a guaranteed 10% profit a day, until it collapses. Just make sure that you keep funneling in new investors to steal from increase the capital for a higher rate of return. |
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Other / Meta / Re: Android app or tapatalk
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on: September 07, 2020, 07:35:14 PM
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a Bluetooth keyboard too
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My main issue is autocorrect... Looks like you have your solution. Disable autocorrect and use the keyboard.
It's not their problem I know that. I thought someone else maid it for them. SMF is not mobile-friendly but frankly I wouldn't use a mobile device to log into the forum at all. Unless you create an alt account that is specifically noted as insecure, I would only use it for browsing. |
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Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Do we have to archive only our own pages or everything we see ?
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on: September 07, 2020, 07:27:07 PM
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Often people will archive other people's posts that they want to keep evidence of, in case the user in question deletes said post. This is mainly seen during scam or other accusations or investigations. Often people will also archive posts to so you can always see the original in case it is edited, for example if two users are agreeing terms, agreeing on a deal, arranging a bet, or something similar. Anything external to the site that is linked here should be archived, to preserve integrity and continuity. When in doubt, there's no harm in archiving something. In fact, we could have used it a lot more back in the day (sec/modlog do not have full archives) for investigative work. |
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