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Bitcoin Cash is a split from Bitcoin with a protocol upgrade to fix on-chain capacity. If Bitcoin Cash gets majority of PoW then it becomes de facto Bitcoin.
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The only reason bcc isnt flying higher right now, imo is because many are waiting for cheap polo coins. Once thats out the way and many will realise there is no huge dump coming, there will be a huge swing. Mining and money will come towards bcc, im 100% confident. Something huge is coming and many wont even know until its happened. Prepare....buy/hodl your bcc, when coins come from polo, research before doing anything. Bcc= decentralised bitcoin btc= segwit centralised coin https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@krabgat/what-is-segwitThe arguments against Segwit are: The block size increase is not enough to satisfy the growing needs of Bitcoin’s user base. Others see a hidden agenda as a large number of people working on SegWit are also employed by a company called Blockstream, whose primary product is side-chain solutions. Because a side-chain’s transaction will be verified by a trusted third party it is an unacceptable compromise because this is what the blockchain is supposed to eliminate. The SegWit is providing solution to the following challenges in the network; Resolve the weak spot in the Bitcoin software Increase of the block size limit to an absolute maximum of 4 MB. The actual block size will depend on the network conditions. It is predicted by experts to be in the range of about two to 2.1 megabytes immediately after SegWit’s activation. Remove the barrier to the implementation of second-layer solutions (side-chains) like the proposed Lightning Network. Second-layer solutions remove the bulk of the transactions off the blockchain to a side-chain. (bcc solves these issuses and more) |
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-snip- now can i ask you, is segwit coin really necessary? is peter toad smarter than satoshi? what side are you on and why? thanks m8  IMO what was laid out 9 years ago doesn't have to be the be all and end all of bitcoin, over time, especially in the information sector, things change and grow. Segwit improves apon the origonal code in a way that perhaps Satoshi didn't even think about way back then, it fixes the malleability and quadratic scaling issues, increases transaction throughput and does this without the need of a hardfork. Its not about siding with whos smarter than who, you dont have to pick one team and block everyone else out, even entry level coders can come up with incredibly elegant solutions sometimes just because they aren't locked into the existing status quo. None of the current proposals are good long term solutions and maybe bigger blocks will be necessary but its something that is being rushed unnecessarily at the moment. Personally for the main chain I believe that after segwit is activated we should wait and see what affect it has while continuing to work on other solutions like block size increases and other future bug fixes then, when and if it is deemed necessary, roll out as many of these improvemnts as possible in a single hardfork and only after the code has been thoroughly tested and peer reviewed. I dont think hardforking should be something that is taken lightly. The beauty of bitcoin is that no one owns it and I can almost guarantee that is why Satoshi has publically dissapeared from the scene because he knows that if he were a public figure his opinion would be the final say on bitcoins future and I believe that in the end that goes against everything that he and bitcoin is about... decentralisation. im not cutting anyone out, i got both versions of btc lol,, its the people that dumped for "free money" that may regret when they realise bcc is closer to the real btc i used to agree with what you are saying, until i began looking into it deeper. This 2 tier debate was happening at the start and satoshi believed we dont need another layer, btc can scale itself. If it were up to toad and co we wouldnt have even had 1mb blocks, they tried to stop it going up so many times and when it did they were proven wrong. Now, the thing is there has never been any proof that a 2tier system is better, and it does (segwit) lead to a more centralised version of btc. bcc has bigger blocks, they are here and as time passes imo they will prove satoshi was right. We all want whats best for the system overall and to me bitcoin should be pure and bcc is that, anything else ...go use an alt-coin. (you said) I can almost guarantee that is why Satoshi has publically dissapeared from the scene because he..... (i say).... Satoshi has publically dissapeared from the scene because he prob realised he was wasting to much time and energy fighting a growing list of trolls lol. |
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There could be 3 Bitcoins soon
1- bcc - forked from the original chain, upgraded blocks, close to orginal satnak version.
2- btc segwit - another fork but with a controversial 2nd layer, leading to possible centralised bitcoin.
3- standard btc - the one we have all known, 1mb , no segwits, with slow tx.
Which one will you choose as the real bitcoin?
im defo 100% with #1
Dont you mean 1 - BCC 2 - Segwit 3 - Segwit2x yea, i think so, tbh at times i do get confused between segwit and segwit 2x lol.. but yea , 3 types of btc on the way. http://coinivore.com/2017/08/10/bitcoin-cash-superior-segwit2x-bitcoin-core-developer/Gregory Maxwell, a Bitcoin Core developer, and Blockstream’s CTO, publicly stated on Reddit that the alternative to Bitcoin born on August 1st, Bitcoin Cash, is superior to Segwit2x. “Bcash at least has replay protection and HF safe headers now (though it didn’t until it hit its difficulty adjustment rule). It is superior to S2X. It also doesn’t seek to force itself on anyone who doesn’t want it,” Maxwell said. *It’s very interesting to see a Bitcoin Core developer state that BTC is essentially inferior to its newly split counter part Bcash which is supposed to fix most of the problems developers have with the current legacy BTC. ... The dev is not saying BTC (segwit) is inferior he is saying segwit2x is. No offence but for someone so vehemently defending BCH you dont really seem to know whats going on. no offence taken, we are all here to learn. 1st the comment above, i didnt say anything, its words from maxwell. ok try and keep it simple, the current btc is now segwit coin and not in line with what the original dev wanted... bcc is in line with what the dev wanted. segwit coin is 2tier/2nd layer bcc is not and functions almost identical to what btc used to. http://www.trustnodes.com/2017/07/23/bitcoin-cash-splitting-segwitA pseudonymous cryptographer, going by the nickname of James A. Donald, argued that bitcoin could not scale because it: “Requires each peer to have most past transactions, or most past transactions that occurred recently. If hundreds of millions of people are doing transactions, that is a lot of bandwidth – each must know all, or a substantial part thereof.” Nakamoto rejected his argument, *It is an argument that was repeated many times, with Nakamoto rejecting it each time to the point where he looses his cool and gave us one of his most famous lines: “If you don’t believe me or don’t get it, I don’t have time to try to convince you, sorry.” As such, everyone expected bitcoin to scale on-chain along the lines roughly laid out by Nakamoto who implemented a dual soft-limit and hard-limit. The soft-limit was initially 250kb, which miners raised with no problem, despite the objections of some like Peter Todd and Luke JR, to 500kb, 750kb and then 1MB. The 1MB hard-limit requires a hard-fork to be lifted. Something some Bitcoin Core developers, like Todd, Luke-Jr and Gregory Maxwell, had been arguing since around 2013 should not occur, with their points being a re-hash of Donald’s arguments. So big blockers are rejecting segwit. Chain-split hard-forking to Bitcoin Cash, which continues the soft-limit and hard-limit approach laid down by Nakamoto and followed by the bitcoin network for much of its existence. now can i ask you, is segwit coin really necessary? is peter toad smarter than satoshi? what side are you on and why? thanks m8 |
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afaik...its already been said "no to rootstock" no blockstream, no segwit. There all in the same bed Jihan Wu has big stakes in both and wants them together this coin could just be a trojan horse (conspiracy theory) Let the miners decide and if I am correct and the whole UNKNOWN is bitmain then good luck stopping it May as well of just called it RootKit bcc doesnt need rootstock, rootstock need bcc bcc doesnt need SC, eth does them and so do many other projects, + the brain/manpower and $$ investment required long term is something rootstock could not provide. But Jihan Wu owns a large part of rootstock and is heavily invested in it plus is a large contributor to this coin along with ViaBTC If they want it they will make it happen lols , if i say "no" , its "no" ,no 2nd layers for bcc , ever. lol hope your "no" has more say over the billions that bitmain and viabtc have and the majority of the hashing power to make the vote it its ever put to miners vote 100% confident my "no" represents what almost all crypto holders agree with, the vision of Satoshi, not the vision of core and segwit coin,via,rootstook, My NO is defo worth more than the billions they may have... my NO.. backed by US |
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afaik...its already been said "no to rootstock" no blockstream, no segwit. There all in the same bed Jihan Wu has big stakes in both and wants them together this coin could just be a trojan horse (conspiracy theory) Let the miners decide and if I am correct and the whole UNKNOWN is bitmain then good luck stopping it May as well of just called it RootKit bcc doesnt need rootstock, rootstock need bcc bcc doesnt need SC, eth does them and so do many other projects, + the brain/manpower and $$ investment required long term is something rootstock could not provide. But Jihan Wu owns a large part of rootstock and is heavily invested in it plus is a large contributor to this coin along with ViaBTC If they want it they will make it happen lols , if i say "no" , its "no" ,no 2nd layers for bcc , ever. |
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afaik...its already been said "no to rootstock" no blockstream, no segwit. There all in the same bed Jihan Wu has big stakes in both and wants them together this coin could just be a trojan horse (conspiracy theory) Let the miners decide and if I am correct and the whole UNKNOWN is bitmain then good luck stopping it May as well of just called it RootKit bcc doesnt need rootstock, rootstock need bcc bcc doesnt need SC, eth does them and so do many other projects, + the brain/manpower and $$ investment required long term is something rootstock could not provide. |
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afaik...its already been said "no to rootstock" no blockstream, no segwit. |
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Everyone that sold off their bcc for "free money"..might be in for a shock of their life, when they realise they sold the REAL BITCOIN for under $300.
Theres still time, buy em back.
As for those that get their coins from polo,coinbase and other places....i seriously suggest you research this alot before selling your bcc.
If BTC had a hard time introducing itself to the entire world population, I doubt it's more than easy to have them know BCH or some other alt coins. This is the reason why the entire market (not wholly true though) movement is based on BTC.. bro all i can say is...read what iv put up on this page..do some research, and you will hopefully understand what im saying....if not.. https://twitter.com/satoshi_n_/status/472585020650291200?lang=en |
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You want bitcoin for around $300...buy bcc/bch/bcash...exchanges currently have it listed like an alt-coin lol
When this info gets out...we will see the MOTHER OF ALL PUMPS
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Everyone that sold off their bcc for "free money"..might be in for a shock of their life, when they realise they sold the REAL BITCOIN for under $300.
Theres still time, buy em back.
As for those that get their coins from polo,coinbase and other places....i seriously suggest you research this alot before selling your bcc.
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http://coinivore.com/2017/08/10/bitcoin-cash-superior-segwit2x-bitcoin-core-developer/Gregory Maxwell, a Bitcoin Core developer, and Blockstream’s CTO, publicly stated on Reddit that the alternative to Bitcoin born on August 1st, Bitcoin Cash, is superior to Segwit2x. “Bcash at least has replay protection and HF safe headers now (though it didn’t until it hit its difficulty adjustment rule). It is superior to S2X. It also doesn’t seek to force itself on anyone who doesn’t want it,” Maxwell said. *It’s very interesting to see a Bitcoin Core developer state that BTC is essentially inferior to its newly split counter part Bcash which is supposed to fix most of the problems developers have with the current legacy BTC. Could we witness a market reversal with BTC dropping in value as Bcash shoots up in value if Segwit2x fails? What do you think? https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/08/08/bitcoin_core_fork_cryptocurrency/For fork's sake! Bitcoin Core braces for another cryptocurrency split BTC client software set to reject SegWit2x nodes https://www.coindesk.com/full-steam-ahead-segwit2x-reconfirm-bitcoin-hard-fork-plan/While the official statement is still being reviewed by the open-source group, it has achieved "general approval" from Segwit2x members, according to Bloq founder and Segwit2x developer Jeff Garzik. As such, the confirmation is emerging as one of the first signs that bitcoin could be headed for more turbulent times ahead. Since many bitcoin users don't support the change (at least not so quickly), the fork could lead to another split of the bitcoin network and the creation of another bitcoin cryptocurrency. Bitcoin cash, which split from the bitcoin blockchain last week, has already attracted criticisms for creating brand confusion, though its price (currently $318) has held steadier than some expected. The way i see it now...bcc is pure bitcoin, no 2nd layer , no segwit clinging on...bcc improves bitcoin far more consist with the view of the dev..Mr Satoshi Nakamoto The bitcoin btc is now stuck as segwit coin. http://www.trustnodes.com/2017/07/23/bitcoin-cash-splitting-segwitMUST READSo big blockers are rejecting segwit. Chain-split hard-forking to Bitcoin Cash, which continues the soft-limit and hard-limit approach laid down by Nakamoto and followed by the bitcoin network for much of its existence.
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bcc going over 0.1 get in asap  |
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There could be 3 Bitcoins soon
1- bcc - forked from the original chain, upgraded blocks, close to orginal satnak version.
2- btc segwit - another fork but with a controversial 2nd layer, leading to possible centralised bitcoin.
3- standard btc - the one we have all known, 1mb , no segwits, with slow tx.
Which one will you choose as the real bitcoin?
im defo 100% with #1
Dont you mean 1 - BCC 2 - Segwit 3 - Segwit2x yea, i think so, tbh at times i do get confused between segwit and segwit 2x lol.. but yea , 3 types of btc on the way. |
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There could be 3 Bitcoins soon
1- bcc - forked from the original chain, upgraded blocks, close to orginal satnak version.
2- btc segwit - another fork but with a controversial 2nd layer, leading to possible centralised bitcoin.
3- standard btc - the one we have all known, 1mb , no segwits, with slow tx.
Which one will you choose as the real bitcoin?
im defo 100% with #1
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Will Bitcoin Cash rise again. The price is going up and down
yea bitcoin will go back up to its price of over $3k... while bitcoin cash will drop from its current ath of $3500ish to under $300 or lower when it forks again. bcc = btc btc = bcc |
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Price is going up and down there are still many people who want to dump their Bcc at the right price, I don't know when will this coin stabilize its price I still have mine in my wallet and will wait until it reaches $ 1000 because it's free money so I am comfortable if the price is falling but of course looking forward to get rich here.
m8, im unsure on how much you have looked into this, but things are not as they may seem. Hodl your bcc and buy more if u can, the current bitcoin we know, apart from possibly be-coming centralised more than ever also... http://www.trustnodes.com/2017/08/08/bitcoin-cash-superior-segwit2x-says-bitcoin-core-developer-blockstream-ctoWhile some Bitcoin Core developers, especially Blockstream employees, clearly do not like the hardfork part of segwit2x and are now more publicly coming out against it, presumably to persuade the rest of the network to not support it. They therefore are seemingly preparing for another split between Bitcoin Core and segwit2x with the project soon to lock out segwit2x node clients. That comes just hours after segwit was locked-in in the Bitcoin Core nodes, with live production ready use expected around the end of the month. It is what many big blockers predicted would happen. Namely, after segwit locks in, Blockstream employees in particular, but others too, would come out against the hardfork part and strongly argue against it until miners back out. |
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I sense...PUMP  Price moving in NEO and other crypto currencies and there are many holders still there waiting for some movement to get rid of BCH neo...er i dunno as for many holders wanting to sell...gd luck to them, they will regret it ltr. For past week ive been reading alot about blockstream,segwit 2nd layer vs big blocks bcc today i read the article above...this just confirmed to me, that bcc is on the right track for what Bitcoin should be. |
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