[ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees

[johnsmithx]

There could be 3 Bitcoins soon

1- bcc - forked from the original chain, upgraded blocks, close to orginal satnak version.
2- btc segwit - another fork but with a controversial 2nd layer, leading to possible centralised bitcoin.
3- standard btc - the one we have all known, 1mb , no segwits, with slow tx.

Which one will you choose as the real bitcoin?

im defo 100% with #1

Dont you mean
1 - BCC
2 - Segwit
3 - Segwit2x

There is no no-segwit "standard" Bitcoin anymore so that would have to be yet another fork, then it would be like this:

1 - Segwit (what is now known as "Bitcoin")
2 - Segwit2x (the fork that may or may not happen later this year)
3 - BCC (Aug 1st forked "Bitcoin cash")
4 - Bitcoin legacy (what was known as "Bitcoin" until Aug 1st, i.e. without segwit or bigger blocks)

[sirazimuth]

There could be 3 Bitcoins soon

1- bcc - forked from the original chain, upgraded blocks, close to orginal satnak version.
2- btc segwit - another fork but with a controversial 2nd layer, leading to possible centralised bitcoin.
3- standard btc - the one we have all known, 1mb , no segwits, with slow tx.

Which one will you choose as the real bitcoin?

im defo 100% with #1

who cares?
I'll hold em all for free coin...I aint proud.
quite frankly I dont have a fucking clue what wtf segwich thingy is.
(like most don't, but I admit it)
all I know is I held bitcoin and got bonus free fork coin.

oh mythical god... i love crypto!!

[Rinaze]

Everyone that sold off their bcc for "free money"..might be in for a shock of their life, when they realise they sold the REAL BITCOIN for under $300.
Theres still time, buy em back.

As for those that get their coins from polo,coinbase and other places....i seriously suggest you research this alot before selling your bcc.

If BTC had a hard time introducing itself to the entire world population, I doubt it's more than easy to have them know BCH or some other alt coins. This is the reason why the entire market (not wholly true though) movement is based on BTC..

[Mrpumperitis]

Everyone that sold off their bcc for "free money"..might be in for a shock of their life, when they realise they sold the REAL BITCOIN for under $300.
Theres still time, buy em back.

As for those that get their coins from polo,coinbase and other places....i seriously suggest you research this alot before selling your bcc.

If BTC had a hard time introducing itself to the entire world population, I doubt it's more than easy to have them know BCH or some other alt coins. This is the reason why the entire market (not wholly true though) movement is based on BTC..

bro all i can say is...read what iv put up on this page..do some research, and you will hopefully understand what im saying....if not..
https://twitter.com/satoshi_n_/status/472585020650291200?lang=en

[tekmobile]

https://twitter.com/ViaBTC/status/896016235816562688

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6t1wzd/viabtc_lets_bring_smart_contract_to_bitcoin_cash/

[Mrpumperitis]

https://twitter.com/ViaBTC/status/896016235816562688

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6t1wzd/viabtc_lets_bring_smart_contract_to_bitcoin_cash/

afaik...its already been said "no to rootstock"
no blockstream, no segwit.

[tekmobile]

https://twitter.com/ViaBTC/status/896016235816562688

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6t1wzd/viabtc_lets_bring_smart_contract_to_bitcoin_cash/

afaik...its already been said "no to rootstock"
no blockstream, no segwit.

There all in the same bed Jihan Wu has big stakes in both and wants them together this coin could just be a trojan horse (conspiracy theory)

Let the miners decide and if I am correct and the whole UNKNOWN is bitmain then good luck stopping it

May as well of just called it RootKit

[Mrpumperitis]

https://twitter.com/ViaBTC/status/896016235816562688

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6t1wzd/viabtc_lets_bring_smart_contract_to_bitcoin_cash/

afaik...its already been said "no to rootstock"
no blockstream, no segwit.

There all in the same bed Jihan Wu has big stakes in both and wants them together this coin could just be a trojan horse (conspiracy theory)

Let the miners decide and if I am correct and the whole UNKNOWN is bitmain then good luck stopping it

May as well of just called it RootKit

bcc doesnt need rootstock, rootstock need bcc

bcc doesnt need SC, eth does them and so do many other projects,
+ the brain/manpower and $$ investment required long term is something rootstock could not provide.

[tekmobile]

https://twitter.com/ViaBTC/status/896016235816562688

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6t1wzd/viabtc_lets_bring_smart_contract_to_bitcoin_cash/

afaik...its already been said "no to rootstock"
no blockstream, no segwit.

There all in the same bed Jihan Wu has big stakes in both and wants them together this coin could just be a trojan horse (conspiracy theory)

Let the miners decide and if I am correct and the whole UNKNOWN is bitmain then good luck stopping it

May as well of just called it RootKit

bcc doesnt need rootstock, rootstock need bcc

bcc doesnt need SC, eth does them and so do many other projects,
+ the brain/manpower and $$ investment required long term is something rootstock could not provide.

But Jihan Wu owns a large part of rootstock and is heavily invested in it plus is a large contributor to this coin along with ViaBTC

If they want it they will make it happen

[Mrpumperitis]

https://twitter.com/ViaBTC/status/896016235816562688

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6t1wzd/viabtc_lets_bring_smart_contract_to_bitcoin_cash/

afaik...its already been said "no to rootstock"
no blockstream, no segwit.

There all in the same bed Jihan Wu has big stakes in both and wants them together this coin could just be a trojan horse (conspiracy theory)

Let the miners decide and if I am correct and the whole UNKNOWN is bitmain then good luck stopping it

May as well of just called it RootKit

bcc doesnt need rootstock, rootstock need bcc

bcc doesnt need SC, eth does them and so do many other projects,
+ the brain/manpower and $$ investment required long term is something rootstock could not provide.

But Jihan Wu owns a large part of rootstock and is heavily invested in it plus is a large contributor to this coin along with ViaBTC

If they want it they will make it happen

lols ,
 if i say "no" , its "no"  ,no 2nd layers for bcc , ever.

[tekmobile]

https://twitter.com/ViaBTC/status/896016235816562688

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6t1wzd/viabtc_lets_bring_smart_contract_to_bitcoin_cash/

afaik...its already been said "no to rootstock"
no blockstream, no segwit.

There all in the same bed Jihan Wu has big stakes in both and wants them together this coin could just be a trojan horse (conspiracy theory)

Let the miners decide and if I am correct and the whole UNKNOWN is bitmain then good luck stopping it

May as well of just called it RootKit

bcc doesnt need rootstock, rootstock need bcc

bcc doesnt need SC, eth does them and so do many other projects,
+ the brain/manpower and $$ investment required long term is something rootstock could not provide.

But Jihan Wu owns a large part of rootstock and is heavily invested in it plus is a large contributor to this coin along with ViaBTC

If they want it they will make it happen

lols ,
 if i say "no" , its "no"  ,no 2nd layers for bcc , ever.

lol hope your "no" has more say over the billions that bitmain and viabtc have and the majority of the hashing power to make the vote if its ever put to a miners vote

[Mrpumperitis]

https://twitter.com/ViaBTC/status/896016235816562688

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6t1wzd/viabtc_lets_bring_smart_contract_to_bitcoin_cash/

afaik...its already been said "no to rootstock"
no blockstream, no segwit.

There all in the same bed Jihan Wu has big stakes in both and wants them together this coin could just be a trojan horse (conspiracy theory)

Let the miners decide and if I am correct and the whole UNKNOWN is bitmain then good luck stopping it

May as well of just called it RootKit

bcc doesnt need rootstock, rootstock need bcc

bcc doesnt need SC, eth does them and so do many other projects,
+ the brain/manpower and $$ investment required long term is something rootstock could not provide.

But Jihan Wu owns a large part of rootstock and is heavily invested in it plus is a large contributor to this coin along with ViaBTC

If they want it they will make it happen

lols ,
 if i say "no" , its "no"  ,no 2nd layers for bcc , ever.

lol hope your "no" has more say over the billions that bitmain and viabtc have and the majority of the hashing power to make the vote it its ever put to miners vote

100% confident my "no" represents what almost all crypto holders agree with, the vision of Satoshi, not the vision of core and segwit coin,via,rootstook,
My NO is defo worth more than the billions they may have...
my NO.. backed by US  

[classicsucks]

LAWL tec GTFO w/rootshart and stupid contracts, you don't even understand mining and crypto networks. Take all of that ICO/BlockstreamBabble somewhere else.

Back on-topic, has anyone noticed that the BCC/$fiat exchange rate has held steady despite BTC/$fiat going through the roof?!

Essentially this means BCC value has grown ~30% alongside BTC.

[ekoja]

Where can I find the hash rate for BCC?

[classicsucks]

Where can I find the hash rate for BCC?

https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin%20cash/

[Lindsey-Crypto]

Back on-topic, has anyone noticed that the BCC/$fiat exchange rate has held steady despite BTC/$fiat going through the roof?!

Essentially this means BCC value has grown ~30% alongside BTC.

That`s the same as saying Lunyr and Monacocoin have grown more than 200% alongside BTC. So I should better invest there?

[addicto]

Back on-topic, has anyone noticed that the BCC/$fiat exchange rate has held steady despite BTC/$fiat going through the roof?!

Essentially this means BCC value has grown ~30% alongside BTC.

That`s the same as saying Lunyr and Monacocoin have grown more than 200% alongside BTC. So I should better invest there?

Better you should start a topic in into Speculation (Altcoins) board if you are interested to take advice for other coins. Please don't try to hijack this thread by asking for suggestions.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=224.0

[Lindsey-Crypto]

Back on-topic, has anyone noticed that the BCC/$fiat exchange rate has held steady despite BTC/$fiat going through the roof?!

Essentially this means BCC value has grown ~30% alongside BTC.

That`s the same as saying Lunyr and Monacocoin have grown more than 200% alongside BTC. So I should better invest there?

Better you should start a topic in into Speculation (Altcoins) board if you are interested to take advice for other coins. Please don't try to hijack this thread by asking for suggestions.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=224.0

That wasn't my intend. Just thought his argumentation is somehow "stupid" and polemic. 

[Grrizz]

There could be 3 Bitcoins soon

1- bcc - forked from the original chain, upgraded blocks, close to orginal satnak version.
2- btc segwit - another fork but with a controversial 2nd layer, leading to possible centralised bitcoin.
3- standard btc - the one we have all known, 1mb , no segwits, with slow tx.

Which one will you choose as the real bitcoin?

im defo 100% with #1

Dont you mean
1 - BCC
2 - Segwit
3 - Segwit2x

yea, i think so, tbh at times i do get confused between segwit and segwit 2x lol..
but yea , 3 types of btc on the way.

http://coinivore.com/2017/08/10/bitcoin-cash-superior-segwit2x-bitcoin-core-developer/
Gregory Maxwell, a Bitcoin Core developer, and Blockstream’s CTO, publicly stated on Reddit that the alternative to Bitcoin born on August 1st, Bitcoin Cash, is superior to Segwit2x.

“Bcash at least has replay protection and HF safe headers now (though it didn’t until it hit its difficulty adjustment rule). It is superior to S2X. It also doesn’t seek to force itself on anyone who doesn’t want it,” Maxwell said.

*It’s very interesting to see a Bitcoin Core developer state that BTC is essentially inferior to its newly split counter part Bcash which is supposed to fix most of the problems developers have with the current legacy BTC.

...

The dev is not saying BTC (segwit) is inferior he is saying segwit2x is.

No offence but for someone so vehemently defending BCH you dont really seem to know whats going on.

[Mrpumperitis]

There could be 3 Bitcoins soon

1- bcc - forked from the original chain, upgraded blocks, close to orginal satnak version.
2- btc segwit - another fork but with a controversial 2nd layer, leading to possible centralised bitcoin.
3- standard btc - the one we have all known, 1mb , no segwits, with slow tx.

Which one will you choose as the real bitcoin?

im defo 100% with #1

Dont you mean
1 - BCC
2 - Segwit
3 - Segwit2x

yea, i think so, tbh at times i do get confused between segwit and segwit 2x lol..
but yea , 3 types of btc on the way.

http://coinivore.com/2017/08/10/bitcoin-cash-superior-segwit2x-bitcoin-core-developer/
Gregory Maxwell, a Bitcoin Core developer, and Blockstream’s CTO, publicly stated on Reddit that the alternative to Bitcoin born on August 1st, Bitcoin Cash, is superior to Segwit2x.

“Bcash at least has replay protection and HF safe headers now (though it didn’t until it hit its difficulty adjustment rule). It is superior to S2X. It also doesn’t seek to force itself on anyone who doesn’t want it,” Maxwell said.

*It’s very interesting to see a Bitcoin Core developer state that BTC is essentially inferior to its newly split counter part Bcash which is supposed to fix most of the problems developers have with the current legacy BTC.

...

The dev is not saying BTC (segwit) is inferior he is saying segwit2x is.

No offence but for someone so vehemently defending BCH you dont really seem to know whats going on.

no offence taken, we are all here to learn.
1st the comment above, i didnt say anything, its words from maxwell.

ok try and keep it simple, the current btc is now segwit coin and not in line with what the original dev wanted...
bcc is in line with what the dev wanted.
segwit coin is 2tier/2nd layer
bcc is not and functions almost identical to what btc used to.
http://www.trustnodes.com/2017/07/23/bitcoin-cash-splitting-segwit
A pseudonymous cryptographer, going by the nickname of James A. Donald, argued that bitcoin could not scale because it:
“Requires each peer to have most past transactions, or most past transactions that occurred recently. If hundreds of millions of people are doing transactions, that is a lot of bandwidth – each must know all, or a substantial part thereof.”
Nakamoto rejected his argument,
*It is an argument that was repeated many times, with Nakamoto rejecting it each time to the point where he looses his cool and gave us one of his most famous lines:

“If you don’t believe me or don’t get it, I don’t have time to try to convince you, sorry.”

As such, everyone expected bitcoin to scale on-chain along the lines roughly laid out by Nakamoto who implemented a dual soft-limit and hard-limit.

The soft-limit was initially 250kb, which miners raised with no problem, despite the objections of some like Peter Todd and Luke JR, to 500kb, 750kb and then 1MB.

The 1MB hard-limit requires a hard-fork to be lifted. Something some Bitcoin Core developers, like Todd, Luke-Jr and Gregory Maxwell, had been arguing since around 2013 should not occur, with their points being a re-hash of Donald’s arguments.

So big blockers are rejecting segwit. Chain-split hard-forking to Bitcoin Cash, which continues the soft-limit and hard-limit approach laid down by Nakamoto and followed by the bitcoin network for much of its existence.



now can i ask you, is segwit coin really necessary?
 is peter toad smarter than satoshi?
what side are you on and why?
thanks m8