A steamin pile of shite? correct.
You were warned.

Just the next scam alt, set up to enrich the founders.
Deliberately excluding the little guy.

Gekko,
"In 4 months, they blew through or stole 84.2% of James and Dart and Superman's money.....
Give those dumb kids back their bitcoins!"

(Don't forget wretched Torrgeek! He lost 84% too!)

But,...   nah.
Those investards neither want nor deserve their bitcoin back. Even now, as all (84%) is lost, neucoin is still king to them.
You can't help them now. Neither should you want to.
You tried many times to inform. They never listened. They gave you no quarter.
They love Sandrine's picture. 

They probably blame US for neucoins faliure.

And anyway, when you think about it,
SOMEONE was going to take Darts bitcoin. (master deleter, censor. #2 to the squirrel)
SOMEONE was going to take James mods bitcoin, (i try not to talk of james mod. candy/babies comes to mind)
SOMEONE was going to take Superdupermans bitcoin, (if he ever had any. no evidence of that. just his illusion)

And SOMEONE was DEFINITELY always going to take torrgeeks bitcoin. (Proof of Fud theorist, the scammier the better)


DAN and SANDRINE just GOT THERE FIRST. 

I don't like it scambo, but hey do as you wish, your a free man, lol. OK, stay alert.

I don't mind the 66% threshold in theory. It should make change easier, to foster innovation in the bitcoin space.
Of course, in practice the decred devs/c0 will be able to outvote everyone else, what they say goes.
Shame decred did not take the opportunity to address the pressing need in bitcoin, the block size! that would be more innovative/insightful.

Scam, you must see many similarities between decred and neucoin? (or others)
Of course repackaged, reworked, reinvented.

Ok, credit if decred get the PoS pool up and running at launch. They should admit it was my due diligence (fud) that caused this turnaround.

But they were going to launch without a pool, effectively leaving "us" PoS-less.
And we know what happens when an entity controlls over 50% PoS, (which decred/c0 effectively still will, but less so) they "outvote others" to rewards.
(they effectively compound their PoS and buy tickets cheaper due to quicker rewards)

Now I don't mind ANY of this, I just want anyone with "real interest" in this to understand better.
In effect the PoS share will not be 50% decred/c0, 50% airdrop, but vastly more in favour of decred/c0 (for various reasons, some stated)
If decred explained this, fine. But they don't. (being as decred is marketed as a coin for "devs", serious players and knowledgeable people)
Being told to shut up by decreders and blanked by anonymous _ingsoc is quite familiar?

And my figures on the "$0.49" price tag allotted to repay decred/c0 in relation to a "working price" of $1.00, set by the boss Beyondtext?
Fobbed off by "the thickest one of the group" anonymous _ingsoc. (her own words not mine)

I can't get an intelligent reply to anything here. I know my lines of enquiry are uncomfortable. More so if things are being hidden I imagine.

I'm seeing many similarities to neucoin,

founders (claim to) work for years on development.
Large Premine
Founders get 2x value of dev pre-launch input repaid. (in relation to "sustainable price" of $1.00 - Beyondtext)
Founders get 450,000(?) decred PoS on top, for no extra work "hidden bonus" (this is not dev fund money. c0 money)
Founders pre-launch input "package" ammounts to 1,300,000 decred in year 1, far more than "implied" (and continue after that)
decred need to trade at $1.00 to self fund on "workable" scale.
Incompatible mathematical evaluations.
Lots of reorgs and unluck PoS miners. (expected)
"Dev fund" starts empty. No project development for some time until funds are accumulated?
Founders "hidden bonus" 1st yr PoS yields more decred than the Dev funds "10% of all blocks"
DHG (dev fund) controlled by founders.
Block explorer promised due to my due diligence. (waiting on fulfilment)
Launch delayed to create essential PoS pool due to my due dilegence. (but no acknowledgement to me. didn't see any other "users" complain)

Also,
Anonymous spokesperson  _ingsoc (Sandrine?)
An owl instead of a rabbit?
Anonymous "decred" team posting.
No sign of Beyondtext here, hardly. (to clarify my figures are correct, not anonymous _ingsocs misinterpretation)

Hmmm.... you know me scam,
If I dont get genuine answers I tend to keep trying.

Oh, thanks for bringing these very important issues to light rizz, you bastard.

Thats quite alright anonymous _ingsoc, no problem.
Don't bother thanking me, or even acknowledging me.
Oh, you didn't.

So i'm on many ignore lists here, idiots.
See what can be acheived?
If only you ignorers knew how much PoS I just rightfully earned for you.

More to come.

Oh, it doesn't look like "we all knew" about this problem.
I think decred devs should account for their 450,000 PoS yr1 in their "$420,000 repayment" Its all free decred for them on top of the premine.
(now they will get most of our PoS too. 200,000 decred?)
But my point here is, at least us muppets should be able to PoS as "implied" (50%) which we wont.



Yes pooled staking will make a big difference, ask anonymous _ingsoc to explain, she wont talk to me.
Remember "the [PoS] system was designed with stake pooling in mind"

Anyway, I thought "we all knew about this"?

No, you miss the point of course.

Our ability to achieve PoS should be READY at launch. .
It is not a development issue, it's a basic fair launch issue.
The decred dev team have sorted out PoS for themselves

You want to walt for davecgh to help develop in 6 months?
(when he has filled his pockets with our 6 month share of PoS, maybe 200,000 decred)

Remember "the [PoS] system was designed with stake pooling in mind"  
Yet not provided?

A pool is an essential part of a "fair" launch.


PS.  "Could you shut up till mainnet launch when they actually start developing ?"

Start developing at launch? With what? Shirt buttons?
The decred dev pot is empty at launch. What a joke this coin is.

OK thanks anonymous _ingsoc. Available when? At launch? (it's test net now so..?)

Even more important, PoS.
As I highlighted in an earlier post, decred devs are "forecast" to get 450,000 decred PoS yr1 profits on their premine, with no additional work due.
With no pool for us muppets, decred devs now stand to gain thousand? hundreds of thousands? more PoS.
We stand to gain very few.

remember davecgh said (decred dev, decred forum) "the system was designed with stake pooling in mind" 
Yet not provided? A pool is essential at launch.

Of course I'm aware decred has not launched yet, but it applies "at launch".

Yes of course they are "working hard" to launch, regardless we wont be able to PoS OR inspect decred devs PoS. (at launch)
But peoples ability to PoS should be important, in a "fair" dev orientated coin.

No blockchain explorer "at launch" just adds to the fact of mystery and doubt.
This should be a "must have" at launch, for transparency.
Again, a "fair" dev orientated coin needs this.


We're supposed to be part of this coin, yet are not really included till a later date.
(by which time decred devs could possibly have made another 200,000 decred in "unseen/unforecast" PoS rewards)


added;

remember davecgh said (decred dev, decred forum) "the system was designed with stake pooling in mind" 
Yet not provided?

and also "I personally wouldn't be able to contribute code to it for some time because I have a list of things I need to get to that is already probably at least 2-3 months of work and I'm sure more will come up in the mean time."
So, no help there.

decred devs have a blockchain explorer but don't want to share with us
decred devs have their PoS all sorted, but can't help us to pool.

decred devs will take nearer 100% of all PoS for months "to ensure security", before "throttling back" to nearer 50%.

No PoS for us. (very little, much less than advertised 50%)
No blockchain explorer for us. (so we can't see decred devs biased rewards being gained)

Of course anonymous _ingsoc REALLY wants us to have these things.....  top priority.....
but won't help.

I personally never liked the weak block idea, and the over complexity.

But OP also seems to brings up an attack scenario specific to segwit.
Previous soft forks have not rendered nodes blind.(?)

I think it is an attack on segwit. Sort forks are only the delivery method here.

OP Are you saying "Why soft fork TO SEGWIT is a bad idea?" I agree. Good post.

Segwit just ain't Bitcoin.

Homework? Haha, do you remember Torrgeek's investment process, "proof of fud"
When neucoin was shown to be highly scammy, on many multiple aspects, Torrgeek was wretchedly all in.
What a, urm..

Meanwhile on the near abandoned noforum,
profitofthegods asks,
"Why have the distribution reports stopped? The available supply listed by the official block explorer also does not seem to be correct."

Lol. When will these die-hard stragglers realise....  


Take a look at this HEADLINE thread on noforum "Over 50,000 users 4 weeks after launch of consumer apps" OP Acorn the scammy little squirel.
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/over-50-000-users-4-weeks-after-launch-of-consumer-apps/2417

Only FOUR replys in 2 weeks. James mod, Superduperman, Sandrine Bitchin camaro and Dan Colt45.
PATHETIC.

50,000 users, not one found their way to the noforum.
Yeah right.  

And your right not to believe....

The $2.25 funding was marketing speak, hell, EVEN cointelegraph had to admit it wasn't right, editing their article.
(torrgeek mod didnt like that. Us pesky kids!)

No one has heard a peep from the ANGELS.
(Dart mod wanted them to stay silent until the big launch, then bang....)
Nothing. OOPS.

Its all logged in these pages. And much much more

Oh my favourite, cointelegraph.
tyz 100 post a week sig shill, or sarcasm, or both?

James thesecond has comented on the article,

More BS from Frederic the shill.
Frederic has been recommending buy neucoin for months, as it falls and falls.

neucoin is 99% controlled by the spyware master Dan Kaufman.
He'll sell you all the neucoins you want, with Frederics help.

Frederic, all those neucoin you were paid are, and should be worthless.
Give it a rest, it's embarrassing.
(or clearly state neucoin is paying for this tosh)


I agree with James. Frederic at cointelegraph, your shilling is embarrassing.
It's unethical not declaring your interests.

No block chain explorer at launch?
jcv says (decred dev)" I don't know when that will actually be public (mostly because I've been more worried about testnet than the explorer) but internally I've been using it for a while."
They don't want you to see something?

Hope people are aware they need to "lock up" coins for PoS, and keep them online 24/7.
davecgh (decred dev) says "The system has also been designed with stake pooling in mind"
So will davecgh help code/set up? "I personally wouldn't be able to contribute code to it for some time"

davecgh and the other decred devs will be raking in nearly all the PoS.
They will have majority vote on every block.
But they won't help with a pool for others to PoS
And wont provide a block explorer to see all decred devs rewards.


Looking like another money spinner for the decred devs. (c0) and anonymous _ingsoc of course.
(btw _ingsoc, can beyondtext answer my previous post, I was right wasn't I?)

Darteous, not surprised your now deleting complete threads. neucoin doesn't need any more bad publicity!

Even Frederic @ cointelegraph now thinks neucoin is shite.
Price keeps falling.

Oh, you bought 16 bitcoins worth of neucoin off Dan, not 12 as I thought.
Ouch.

Still, soon you will get 20% extra neucoins from the growth account.
Your 480,000 neucoin now worth selling back to Dan for 2.5 bitcoin.

Say hi to James mod for me. And Torrgeek and Superduperman. (I think thats everyone on noforum?)
Happy deleting.

Sorry _ingsoc you are wrong.

Beyondtext explains BECAUSE OF the 10% block subsidy, decred NEEDS to be priced at $1.00. THEN the project can fund 3/4 devs. ($320,000)


For example,
BECAUSE OF the 10% block subsidy, if decred is priced (by the market) at $0.25, the project will fund only nearly 1 dev. = $80,000
(and will be a fail, as Beyondtext says, because even $320,000 is a SMALL amount of funding)

The 10% block subsidy is not a magic number for success, without decred ALSO being priced at $1.00.
Beyondtext is saying BECAUSE OF the 10% block subsidy, decred needs to be $1.00 to fund required numbers of devs to make this project work.


decred price is totally relevant in Beyondtext's explanation.

 

My post has NOTHING to do with consensus rules. 

What bothers me,

c0's % of the premine should be priced at $1.00 per decred. The price "at which this project may be able to sustain itself at 10% subsidy"

(Beyondtext said "If we assume the value of 1 decred averages to USD 1.00 over the first year, this means we'll have USD 302K to spend on development work.  This is a small amount of funding and can pay for 3-4 full time developers for 1 year, so if we went below 10% dev subsidy it would mean the project cannot fund itself unless its exchange rate is well over USD 1.00 per decred")

But then c0's guaranteed 400,000 decred PoS awards in year 1 MUST also be considered in the "compensation package".
This 400,000 "free and guaranteed" PoS is more than the dev fund receives in year 1, yet is totally unaccounted for in the c0 "compensation package"

c0 "imply" they are not seeking profit here. They just say they want "compensation for bring up costs" = $420,000. ok fair enough.
But, c0's "compensation package" is structured to produce 3x that figure = "compensation for bring up cost + 200% profit"
(100% profit at launch + 100% profit in yr 1. based on decred price "at which this project may be able to sustain itself at 10% subsidy")

So, a fairer "compensation package for bring up costs" would be something like,
TOTAL received by c0 at end year1 (premine + PoS) = 420,000 decred.
(ALL the premine/distribution/PoS figures would need changing)

Whole threads now disappearing on the noforum.

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