Let's have another look at the distribution on bittrex: - Top account now up to 3.37M neucon - Second largest account has grown to 1.14M Looking at the low volume they (the regime members) have to be the only buyers (way below ICO price naturally). Coming October 23rd "approximately 5 million NeuCoins will be distributed". Which is with high probability another lie. After the "user verification process" we can expect that less than 1M will be distributed to third parties. Still this will put more pressure on the price -> ICO investors are even more f#cked. The neucon regime dominates supply and demand but still has not disclosed the price they are aiming for. Every other piece of information they make public is old and repacked (copy-pasted), not important or imprecise/concerning the far away future... At the current state the neucon regime produces millions of coins and buys back millions of coins at a lower price. Early buyers are being toyed with by the team. Price is completely artificial. Commitment of the team doesn't seem to exist. Their forum is dry and the couple of complete numbnuts trying to pump it or defend it there appear to be team members (I don't see any reason to believe that they are not fake as well). Neucon: Where lies and incompetence go hand in hand. 24 hours later, Top account now 3,490,000. That's +120k nokoin in 24 hours. 24 hour Bitcoin volume 3.75 That equals ALL sales in last 24 hours. NOBODY else is buying. (sorry, Kay5ive is buying on cryptsy, he can't get the TWO nokoin he purchased, http://forum.neucoin.org/t/seen-neucoin-listed-in-bittrex-and-cryptsy/1765/31) Survey nokoin "released by 23 Oct." The nokoin team have got 48 hours to get nokoin delivered to the people or fail to fulfil this promise. Also 11 million nokoin become unrestricted for the "team" on 23 Oct. (also more unspoken founder nokoin will be available 6m+?) Busy day 23 Oct. Nokoin price 23 Oct? Very low. Unless nokoin buy it ALL back, and sell NONE of their own. (as Tempus said, can the unrestricted nokoin be controlled? Will there be any trust between the nokoin "team"? will it be a race to sell?) I don't think the survey nokoin release will happen in it's present form. It's futile. Either it will be "delayed due to technical problems" Or downgraded. 1000 free nokoin becomes 100 free nokoin, Or, I personally think there is a high chance, nokoin is about to be called off. Finished.
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Sandrine said, "Strategic advisors that include Patricke Stymne, co-founder and Chief Architect of King (Candy Crush Saga), Alex Norstrom, Head of Growth of Spotify, Jackson Palmer, creator of Dogecoin, Michael Witrant, core developer of Peercoin, and Brock Pierce, crypto financier and member of the Bitcoin Foundation" http://forum.neucoin.org/t/neucoin-presale-to-start-april-28-and-earn-free-neucoins-now/467No one wants to admit their involvement. Sandrine also said, "Hi @Darteous ! Here are some clarifications: Brock is one of our strategic advisors, as mentioned in our wiki1. However, he is not a board member of any of the three NeuCoin foundations, and won't be. Brock will not have any operational role at NeuCoin, and will never have any control whatsoever in the way NeuCoins will be distributed over time. I am not aware of this specific allegation against Brock, but so far we have never had any problems with him. Let me know if you have any other interrogations on this subject!" http://forum.neucoin.org/t/team-foundation-concerns/567That "specific allegation" was Darteous asking, "I decided to look into Brock Pierce. He's had about half a dozen lawsuits brought against him and he's one of the board members of the foundation. The allegation I found most concerning was that his co-founder of IGE says he stole $200,000 of stock from the company and the suit was settled for an undisclosed amount outside of court. This makes me uncomfortable." Sandrine - "but so far we have never had any problems with him." ha ha ha. Sounds like their pet dog.
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^ Yeah, I talk to Dan and most others. They hate me wasting my time too. Few come back with anything of substance. Actually, few come back. They have tried most deflection tactics now. Only SOME of the addresses were released by nokoin, of course. It's clearly nowhere near transparent. Nowhere near. Quote from: idifin on September 04, 2015, 04:07:27 PM You might also want to consider as part of your thought exercise that if this is a scam, that perhaps many of the people listed on Neucoin's site are potentially victims rather than participants. Oh, this list of names, which overrides all common sense. At one time I would agree they may also be victims of this scam. But even the most basic of dd would have thrown up problems by now? Do the names on that list have the power at their disposal to find out about, and opt out of this scam? Do these high rolling public names have a moral public responsibility not to promote scams? Absolutely. But up to now they have elected to shill their names in this farce. A farce which can really only end one way. The few supporters loose their money. Time to pull the plug already. The names crying innocence when this all goes down is too late for me. The names still want their share of the spoils. IMO. The names are a big part of this nokoin.
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M3ndi3, From the article, "If they have “gone Mt Gox” it’s of absolutely absolutely no surprise what so ever given the company’s previous involvement with some of the worst scammers and criminals to have ever operated in the Bitcoin space; that people would still trust the services of this company in October 2015 despite the nefarious company they keep is a sad reflection that either people don’t do some basic due diligence about the people they trade with, or just don’t care, and although there are legitimate victims here, the Latin phrase Caveat Emptor comes to mind. Cryptsy is one of the ever shrinking pre-regulation, old school exchanges complete with Belize registration at a time where the Bitcoin and cryptocurrency space has moved to transparency and financial compliance through venture capital backed companies such as Coinbase and Gemini, taking Bitcoin to a broader, more publicly acceptable space. The death of Cryptsy will be sad for those who lose money, but good for Bitcoin in the long term as the market can only progress once it is purged of those who are willing to steal and defraud users." Could almost replace the word "Cryptsy" with "nokoin". Same type of scammy business set up.
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ok, didn't see that. Oh they have been busy I take it all back. Some very limited update to the faq. Press still outdated?
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Does anybody know how much Coins that are? Thousands? Hundredthousands?
5 million o approximately 5 million NeuCoins will be distributed no later than October 23 that were earned for taking surveys prior to launch (the actual number will depend on the number of survey-takers who pass through the user verification process)
Oh wow... that's a lot more than I expected. They should begin to build some buy-support for it. At the current price of 0.000029 that would be 145 BTC. Will be interesting to see what they'll do. I bet: They won't give out 5 Mio Coins. I don't expect that they'll give out just 1 Mio. But if they do it, the price will drop before. Oh yeah,... Ouch. Dan better raid MrNuks for more bitcoin
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Gollo, nokoin investor. "Neucoin is dead. Or do u see anyone working? Forum is dead also. So forget ur money. I hope that some fake pump is comming to sell my coins After that i forget this coin"
No, I don't see anyone or anything working. We are in the pump phase right now. The market is being heavily supported by "team" right now. Without this intervention the price would have already tanked much lower. IMO
Even Darteous knows the "price will keep falling."
Of course, Alexhiggins732 the nokoin miner, advises you "keep buying to support the price." He would, he wants to sell. But how could small buyers keep up wlth the 100% compounded interest rate. Already 155million nokoin mined since launch. They can't.
When the free nokoin flood the market, look out. 1 week to go.
stevenCW, "our ONLY option with PoW mining now active AND survey coins coming is to cut our losses and get out."
(all quotes from nokoin investors!)
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Very well found, mr. Holmes and I am also still waiting for my survey reward, IF I'll get it (big questionmark) to also put it into my QT wallet. Hey, no problem. I'm waiting for the survey coin also. That may be the next fiasco May be (purposefully) too hard to claim. nokoin team doesn't seem to want the Masses to have any. IMO. No getnokoin.com Deferred survey rewards No distribution to other crypto coin users Barely even any tipplng by the team on their forum
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"Allergic to false promises." Gizfreak, does that mean you are done with nokoin now?
You bet. I mostly give a sound plan the benefit of the doubt. Well the doubt just won hey Gizfreak, I thought you were into Neucoin. What happened? He dumped his NoKoin. I think he calls it NeuCrap But not out yet, Gizfreak balance 5,823.475024 NEU http://www.neucoin.io/address/Ne6idHhXEKiDnW3fr3wxVM8kj9KnZJeayx
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"Allergic to false promises." Gizfreak, does that mean you are done with nokoin now?
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Quote from: NeuCoin Project on September 15, 2015, 11:25:58 AM Publicly visible addresses and verifiable transactions Second, all NeuCoin tokens owned by the foundations, as well as all restricted NeuCoins (whether owned by FOUNDERS, angel investors or service providers) will be held and mined in published addresses clearly visible and verifiable on the NeuCoin blockchain.
Quote from: TibanneCat on October 13, 2015, 08:22:03 PM Another shameless lie So much for transparency huh?? What are they hiding??
Hey ratso, Yeah good, SOME clarity at last, but... AVAILABLE NEUCOINS • Restricted NeuCoins that become unrestricted according to the schedule above o approximately 10.8 million NeuCoin tokens will become available on October 23 But.. what about the restricted nokoin that become unrestricted that aren't on the schedule above? How many nokoin in TOTAL will be released on Oct 23? What of the FOUNDERS 300m nokoin that will be released also. (6m nokoin released?, or, do founders get 100m nokoin lump sum this year?) What of the FOUNDATION pay packets. (?? nokoin released) Millions more nokoin due for release this month. Hidden by nokoin team. Its confusing I know. I will explain again. restricted coin- team 200m, seed 100m, angels 200m, FOUNDERS 300m. - Not mentioned above. Foundation pay packets? Nobody knows. But at least a dozen "well paid positions" I assume? - Not mentioned above. BTW, why didn't the foundation stake until angels (and team?) had already staked 9m nokoin for themselves? Any reason or just more greed? (first stake block 793, first stake for 1.4bn growth foundation block 2054.) Also are scam confirmed 's above addresses really all growth accounts or "others"? They need official recognition too. Also, what block was "launch"? Remember Darteous mod asking the same thing? http://forum.neucoin.org/t/welcome-to-neucoin-forum/8/26"@Sandrine Will the expected expenditures for the year be released at launch?" "Also I'm concerned as to why you plan to pay the founders after the launch at the value of $0.0075 per coin." "The foundations have set aside an additional 300 million sale-restricted coins (plus PoS awards earned on these coins) to release to the founders over the three years following launch" also, Dartious mod in answer to M3ndi3, http://forum.neucoin.org/t/why-are-people-associating-presale-premine-with-scam/591"Most premines in the past have been scams. In which the founding team make a bunch of promises.." And Torrgeek mod, http://forum.neucoin.org/t/jackson-palmer-on-twitter/587/40"For the sake of simplicity and transparency, can you answer.." "At the end of year 1, assuming an [team, founder ect] investor who had 1000 neu to start with sells away all of the coins that have become unrestricted at the end of year 1, how many would he be left with and how many would he have sold?" "What are the corresponding numbers at the end of year two?" Oh, and the bitcoin?...
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Your not supposed to use commas on numbers anyway, It seems to be an American thing. It is incorrect though Nice wallet eh Ahah totally agree with you, spaces are way better and there is no confusion possible with it Ahh, yeah.. spaces man. spaces are much better than commas, yeah. No confusion, much better. Oh wait, there are no spaces man...
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Hey, remember "bi-weekly updates?"
Remember Sandrine used to say stuff?
Remember Dank? Before your million dollars was in his pocket? Haven't heard from him in a while.
He must be sleeping from all the Coke he snorted off Sandrine's ass when he realized he got away with this.
Remember bitcoins that were supposed to go to foundations (albeit to tax free offshore money-laundering havens)?
Remember promises made? Remember when they used to say ALOT of shit every day, now, they don't say anything anymore, here, or on their own "forum"?
Remember? Now they've even outsourced spruking the list of names to poor third world bloggers.
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Meme please. Not my talent.
I remember Sandrine said, "After the launch, the communication floodgates will open again." But... Updates have gone the same way as the dinosaurs. I remember Dank. People got banned every time he rode into town. Bitcoin would go to foundations, that's right, I remember now. In a clear and verifiable way, hahaha. Promises. Yes I remember. Many, many promises. Transparency, decentralized, easy to get, verifiable, Foundation pay, founders pay, and on and on. I remember. Just lies and deflection. Now they say 1,000,000 users in a year. Just how stupid do they think the masses are? (big seller on bittrex. went straight through Dans 175,000 nokoin buywall @3005. All purchase now in #1 wallet)
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oh that was quick of you to pick up, rizzlarolla, only minutes after it was posted it seems, so quick that perhaps YOU were the one who posted it over there? making an extra buck?
and of course you conveniently forgot to mention that someone else also posted the below on the very same thread:
bitchin-camaro it's too soon to say that I think. they haven't even launched any of the games and tipping and facebook stuff yet. That's what will determine this. I never saw this as a short term trader thing - it seems to me much more of a long term play aimed at mass adoption. which is all about whether they can get lots and lots of mainstream users through games, facebook, tipping applications, etc, all that stuff in the strategic plan. That's what may make neucoin valuable. and all that was to come in the months after launch.
what we've seen in the first weeks are just the first steps - coin, online wallet, exchanges, then they need to deliver the survey coins, then start the referral program and marketing, then games and tipping, etc... it will take time, but again, this is a long term play that will be determined by the success or failure of the facebook games - not by coin speculation before those things are even launched.
Yeah, it was quick wasn't it. Thought I better get in before it was deleted. So quick in fact bitchin hadn't even replied. bitchin thinks it is too soon to judge. After 2 years in development, I think most get the message. Anyway, bitchin is a team member. Bit like you. A shill account set up to harass me (and others). Because you have no other way to deflect knowledge. Trouble is all that BS about what is coming isn't. nokoin keep promising, nokoin keep failing. All the missing stuff is already built into the price,... and some. ratsorizzo, a shill account set up for deflection. You wont fool many. Oh , you forgot another post before nokoin Project bitchin's reply, Gizreak "I get the same impression and that's all because of the lack of transparancy. I'll stick to my investment for a few weeks longer, but if this situation persists, I'll take my loss too. After all to me deeds count and not words." Hey ratsorizzo, StevenCW, another nokoiner bites the bullet, "you are on total la la land if you EVER think Facebook will back this. that part i will EAT my hat haha if it happens. it DOES reak like Paycoin sadly... i am also out, at a loss, but thankfully this year has been so full of these coins that i never went in big :\" well said exnokoiner. Dropping like flies. Shall I tell everyone or will you ratso? Oh yeah, nokoin Project bitchin replied twice, "blah blah blah....." So what was nokoin Project bitchin advising? "blah blah.. If you went in to this to speculate on just another altcoin for a quick buck on an exchange, then you went in it for the wrong reasons." http://forum.neucoin.org/t/cutting-my-loses-im-out/1939/4Well ain't that something, I agree. Nobody will profit here. but two weeks ago, much more upbeat. nokoin Project Colt45 "What does everybody think it [nokoin] will start trading at?" nokoin Project bitchin "I think it will go up 10X on the first day, depending on volume of course, then settle down at 5X at the end of the day. Then roughly hold that price, in spite of all the PoS inflation, and slowly climb up to 10X again if Neucoin can show good user growth numbers." http://forum.neucoin.org/t/neucoin-launching-this-week-update-on-exchanges/1574/17Oh, you got that wrong. No biggie. Just move the goalposts. Keep on shillin'
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Ha ha ha! Price crashing 25% inside of first month, and what does THE TEAM do? Buy another "article" from some third world crypto hack and brandish (yet again) THE LIST OF NAMES! http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/10/11/trusted-backers-makes-neucoin-more-trustable/No other attributes, developments, deals signed, coding finished, no games, no decent wallet, no official blockchain explorer...just the list of names! Pathetic. This is what you get when a shady marketing team is running the show. Marketing, and tired, repetitive, uncreative marketing at that. Look at the names you sheep! Now with "More Trustableness"! Buy some today at 25% off before it's 50% off by its 1 month birthday. Neucoin: it is a list of names. Names of people in middle management at companies you might have heard of! Trust the Names. Do not look at reality or math. The names you sheep. Follow the names. Bah! Trustableness. It's next to Truthyness. Disgraceful. http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/10/11/trusted-backers-makes-neucoin-more-trustable/Advertising disguised as journalism. Gola Yashu should be ashamed. Shill. NEWSBTC should be ashamed. Brock Pierce should be ashamed. Brock Pierce should resign his Bitcoin Foundation chairmanship immediately. Shill. Backing what is, to anyone who does any research, clearly a cash scam by nokoin. My next project maybe. "James" tells the real story in his reply there.
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oh that was quick of you to pick up, rizzlarolla, only minutes after it was posted it seems, so quick that perhaps YOU were the one who posted it over there? making an extra buck?
and of course you conveniently forgot to mention that someone else also posted the below on the very same thread:
bitchin-camaro it's too soon to say that I think. they haven't even launched any of the games and tipping and facebook stuff yet. That's what will determine this. I never saw this as a short term trader thing - it seems to me much more of a long term play aimed at mass adoption. which is all about whether they can get lots and lots of mainstream users through games, facebook, tipping applications, etc, all that stuff in the strategic plan. That's what may make neucoin valuable. and all that was to come in the months after launch.
what we've seen in the first weeks are just the first steps - coin, online wallet, exchanges, then they need to deliver the survey coins, then start the referral program and marketing, then games and tipping, etc... it will take time, but again, this is a long term play that will be determined by the success or failure of the facebook games - not by coin speculation before those things are even launched.
Yeah, it was quick wasn't it. Thought I better get in before it was deleted. So quick in fact bitchin hadn't even replied. bitchin thinks it is too soon to judge. After 2 years in development, I think most get the message. Anyway, bitchin is a team member. Bit like you. A shill account set up to harass me (and others). Because you have no other way to deflect knowledge. Trouble is all that BS about what is coming isn't. nokoin keep promising, nokoin keep failing. All the missing stuff is already built into the price,... and some. ratsorizzo, a shill account set up for deflection. You wont fool many. Oh , you forgot another post before nokoin Project bitchin's reply, Gizreak "I get the same impression and that's all because of the lack of transparancy. I'll stick to my investment for a few weeks longer, but if this situation persists, I'll take my loss too. After all to me deeds count and not words." Hey ratsorizzo, StevenCW, another nokoiner bites the bullet, "you are on total la la land if you EVER think Facebook will back this. that part i will EAT my hat haha if it happens. it DOES reak like Paycoin sadly... i am also out, at a loss, but thankfully this year has been so full of these coins that i never went in big :\" well said exnokoiner. Dropping like flies. Shall I tell everyone or will you ratso? Oh yeah, nokoin Project bitchin replied twice, "blah blah blah....."
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oh that was quick of you to pick up, rizzlarolla, only minutes after it was posted it seems, so quick that perhaps YOU were the one who posted it over there? making an extra buck?
and of course you conveniently forgot to mention that someone else also posted the below on the very same thread:
bitchin-camaro it's too soon to say that I think. they haven't even launched any of the games and tipping and facebook stuff yet. That's what will determine this. I never saw this as a short term trader thing - it seems to me much more of a long term play aimed at mass adoption. which is all about whether they can get lots and lots of mainstream users through games, facebook, tipping applications, etc, all that stuff in the strategic plan. That's what may make neucoin valuable. and all that was to come in the months after launch.
what we've seen in the first weeks are just the first steps - coin, online wallet, exchanges, then they need to deliver the survey coins, then start the referral program and marketing, then games and tipping, etc... it will take time, but again, this is a long term play that will be determined by the success or failure of the facebook games - not by coin speculation before those things are even launched.
Yeah, it was quick wasn't it. Thought I better get in before it was deleted. So quick in fact bitchin hadn't even replied. bitchin thinks it is too soon to judge. After 2 years in development, I think most get the message. Anyway, bitchin is a team member. Bit like you. A shill account set up to harass me (and others). Because you have no other way to deflect knowledge. Trouble is all that BS about what is coming isn't. nokoin keep promising, nokoin keep failing. All the missing stuff is already built into the price,... and some. ratsorizzo, a shill account set up for deflection. You wont fool many. Oh , you forgot another post before nokoin Project bitchin's reply, Gizreak "I get the same impression and that's all because of the lack of transparancy. I'll stick to my investment for a few weeks longer, but if this situation persists, I'll take my loss too. After all to me deeds count and not words."
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