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1281  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Neucoin ? on: June 14, 2015, 02:00:31 PM
Does anyone know anything about this coin?

Yeah I do its shitcoin.
devs/mods give false info
1282  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: June 13, 2015, 01:22:14 PM

I havnt had time to re-assess TX expense yet, as all my calcs (since April 22) have been based on misinformation.

Just wondering, rizzlarolla... if you don't like Neucoin so much, why are you putting so much work into analyzing it (ie. re-assessing TX expenses)? Does this mean you see some glimmer of hope for it?... or maybe you just like analyzing things, as a hobby.

I wont re-assess TX fees, I was simply trying to make the point that even on the RARE occasion when a clear answer is given by nocoin, it was wrong and could not be relied upon.
I see NO glimmer of hope for nocoin. I did, until I got involved and saw what I am seeing. Scammyness, amateurism, Inaction, fantasy, BS.
Analysis is not my hobby. I try to be exact because, for me, it is the only way to counter the BS evasive non answers from the nou team.
As I know the nou forum well, I figured I was as well informed as anyone could be on day to day dealings If there WAS any tech talk, others may be better positioned.
1283  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: June 12, 2015, 07:51:03 PM
The posts were deleted. Thought so
 The current plan is for the tx fee coins to be destroyed. Though I'm not sure that is concrete. Then why increase them, AT ALL?? And don't tell me that it's to prevent TX spamming.
And You think a hundredth of a cent is to high? 100 tx will cost 1 cent. Again, why did you sell something that isn't supposed to increase in price (value should come first tho) to "investors"? Ah, angels got bargain price. And you know, 1 cent is not exactly peanuts in, say Kenya or Ghana, and a hundred 1 cent transfers would still get a 1% fee. You may think that this example is going over the top, but you get the drift.

I did not insult anyone I'm simply naturally blunt and at times people find that insulting. I'm cool with that.

A month or so ago I asked a facebook page that was based around some old guys theorys how much longer he's expecting to live.
Which on that note, if you're looking for something that's very logical may I suggest reading into the Venus Project.



...wat?

DidiMidi, for (some) clarity, the terribly offensive posts were deleted but 2 were retrieved and posted here by me previously. 1 by gekko & 1 by gurkin. Take a look, are they so bad? (thats the only post by gurkin that was deleted and got him banned)

Dartious, tx fees will now be destroyed, concrete. Its in the new official FAQ which outrank your unofficial FAQ. Please now re-edit the Kourosh post to correct him from stating "unlike Peercoin, tx fees will be kept added to the block reward." (posted April 22) He probably needs to say something like "just like Peercoin, TX fees....."

I havnt had time to re-assess TX expense yet, as all my calcs (since April 22) have been based on misinformation.

Im cool with that

Wat?
1284  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: June 12, 2015, 06:32:32 PM
M3ndi3, ok, good luck. I'm sure you'll be just fine in "life"  Roll Eyes
(unless its all in nocoin lol!)

P.S. you started it!  Tongue
1285  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: June 12, 2015, 05:22:25 PM
M3ndi3. Sorry, Can I just go on a bit?

It's not just because of Dan Kaufmans reputation and history, or Jackson Palmers involvement, or Alex Norstrum leaving, or other team members.It's not just the $2.25m cash claim, the premine, the lack of details on foundations and who is employed and paid, it's not the just the lack of details on the voting system or when users votes might outweigh the foundations.

It's not just the presale, the Seychelles, the T+C of btc refund, the pressure sell. It's not just there is no nou yet, no code, no wallet, no mynocoin.com, no getnocoin.com. Its not just that Jackson Palmer is still listed on nocoinorg/blog. It's not just the advertizing on Graza sites, the marketing speak, the zombie forum users. It's not just the bannings, the deleted posts or the deceit.

It's not just the "off the shelf" forum software problems, the survey response email problems, the referral scheme problems, the distribution to other crypto holder problems. It's not just the lack of foresight at presale, the lack of customer care. It's not just the weeks it took to correct TX fees post, the FAQ being abandoned, finally reborn a clone, the mods/team still unclear or the minor mod.

It's not even just because the Tippy vote was so badly run that some people (innocently) thought that was a scam!

It's not because of any single thing, but so many things?
Please tell me what you like about noucoin so I may understand a little better, If you would like too.
1286  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: June 11, 2015, 10:29:26 AM
Nothing ever gets done.
The nou official FAQ were so outdated Dartious created an unofficial FAQ. James did a similar thing before him. Then...

NomadBR (banned) Asked 25days ago
@Sandrine Now that the pre-sale is well over, the FAQ would greatly benefit from a thorough update. There's a lot of new important information scattered all over this forum that could be consolidated into the FAQ.

Sandrine Replied 25 days go
@NomadBR ! Yes indeed, I totally agree, and it is on my to-do list for next week. As well, we're thinking of upgrading it to a more sophisticated page than just a Google doc in view only mode. In the meantime, I would indeed redirect you to @Darteous ' Unofficial FAQ.


Over 3 weeks later (10 weeks after Dartious suggested it first) we have the new official FAQ, a rehash of the white paper/strategic plan, as before.

Did Sandrine manage to create anything more sophisticated than a Google doc as she hoped?     
No, of course not!

This expert marketing/tech nou team has to be hounded to do anything, then only half hearted results are achieved. Such BS.
1287  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: June 10, 2015, 11:13:54 PM

M3ndi3, I kind of agree the Direct Revenue thing has been done, so long as people know, Its their decision. It was only "done" by/because of us "trolls" though TBF

So what else is wrong?  A lot. Too much to explain here, but I'll try to give you a taster.
I have just been posting about "unimportant" TX fees. If the information posted by dartious (about TX fees on nou forum) is correct, then it has taken about 6 weeks to get that answer. So basic, almost trivial, takes 6 weeks.

The white paper was eye catching at first, hence my interest, but is very thin under scrutiny.
Yes, if blind faith in the team not ripping you off, because "they are rich so dont need your money" is all you need to jump in on this, ok.
Nothing of relevance has happened since the white paper, IMO.

There is much "marketing speak" such as how much CASH has been invested in nou through angel investors ect. It portrays that $2.25m CASH has been invested, when it seems to me it is only $1.25m plus $1m "work done", which is repaid to the "team" in nou at launch. (200m nou) So not invested at all. (the other $1.25 is only on trust, as I said, "funny handshakes")
Also there seems no mention on nou forum that the founders stay on for three years, at 100m nou per yr as advisers, although honestly, there are almost no "serious" questions, or answers on nou forum are there?

Some members here tried, respectfully it seems to me, to discuss nou in depth, but were more or less dismissed as trolls.

Transparency is more "marketing speak". I have "studied" nou for a few months now, and still know nothing because in truth, nor do the "team".
IF they do know any details they aint telling us. Any questions on nou forum are either met with silence, misinformation, ramblings or such.
The team often respond with "I get back to you" or "heads up"-nothing ever comes of it.

NomadBR and gurkin were banned because they had a little moan at Dan "Dank" Kaufman, his only posting, but were among the most intelligent   
users on nou forum IMO. NomadBR even said he bought nou. What sort of totalitarian ship does Dank run?

Kim seems genuine to me. nou team fucked up her survey reward because they cant get the email responder to work properly. pathetic. (dont tell me it wasn't their fault it never is) Another pissed off customer.


I wont go on.


Thank you so much for helping me understand this side of things. It's really hard for me to fully grasp what people are concerned about when emotions run high in their responses (they result in namecalling or snarky remarks) , or arguments happen on forums that I can't keep track of. Indeed I fully want NeuCoin to be transparent and I understand there will be mistakes made along the way, so I think questions to these tough topics are great.

I work in the restaurant industry, and there will always be a pissed off customer, but it's only fair that those who have had great experiences there should also have a voice. My experience with NeuCoin and the community have been great so far. I must admit, there were some hiccups with the presale that I was concerned with, but all those concerns were addressed for me. After all the talks about the founders, presale/premine, though, I still want to stay and make the launch a success. Smiley

M3ndi3, Please dont think I fully understand either. I feel that is all part of the stratergy? Everyone is left feeling inadequately informed to say much of importance? Confusion.
I saw your concerns on nou forum. They were not answered for me.

nou does have all the traits of a ponzi. Offer high % returns to early investors. Buy early as the price rises daily. Tell your friends to earn rewards ect, but this can be interpreted many ways. Ask James for that interpretation. (as you kinda have)

When the team cannot get the email to work, on any survey, the presale was delayed because of minor issues, there is no evidence of any working code, wallet ect...I do wonder? As I said previously, nou may well not live up to white paper ambitions.

You are a dev. Shouldn't you be more informed in nou? Isnt your reputation somewhat at stake?
1288  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: June 10, 2015, 09:18:07 PM
Hey everyone, I haven't posted in BitcoinTalk forum yet, but I feel like I need to bring up some of my concerns which I don't think have been addressed yet. Why do we care so much that Dan had a past in advertising and had a program that put "spyware" in people's computers? I read everything about him and what you call "shady" but I honestly don't understand what the big problem is. We are living in the world of facebook and google and social media, that are constantly tracking what we do, what we say, what we post, etc at all times right? Why is it any surprise that this was happening in the past and that someone made money on it? Every single business wants data on its users, and will pay good money for it.  Every website has an analytics code that tracks what you are viewing, and has targeting codes that will retarget ads based on what site you were in. You don't need to download anything anymore to be "watched"... online/offline you will be watched anyways. So can we all just move on to the next topic, because your points about Dan creating software to spy on you, and he will do it for NeuCoin blah bah isn't really scaring anyone. People are sharing their private lives on social media on their own free will. They know what happened with the NSA and they accept it. If that makes you angry, that's a bigger issue than NeuCoin and Dan.  Make a campaign to end all spying on media. Have people sign petitions that they don't want to be tracked etc. But please, stop this BS with trying to say NeuCoin is some awful terrible thing because one of it's founders had spyware in one of his programs. Seriously WHO CARES???  ::end rant::

NOW, can we all just focus on how we have a coin that has the potential to actually have mainstream adoption? Personally for me, I am excited for the applications it can be used for gaming and content!

M3ndi3, I kind of agree the Direct Revenue thing has been done, so long as people know, Its their decision. It was only "done" by/because of us "trolls" though TBF

So what else is wrong?  A lot. Too much to explain here, but I'll try to give you a taster.
I have just been posting about "unimportant" TX fees. If the information posted by dartious (about TX fees on nou forum) is correct, then it has taken about 6 weeks to get that answer. So basic, almost trivial, takes 6 weeks.

The white paper was eye catching at first, hence my interest, but is very thin under scrutiny.
Yes, if blind faith in the team not ripping you off, because "they are rich so dont need your money" is all you need to jump in on this, ok.
Nothing of relevance has happened since the white paper, IMO.

There is much "marketing speak" such as how much CASH has been invested in nou through angel investors ect. It portrays that $2.25m CASH has been invested, when it seems to me it is only $1.25m plus $1m "work done", which is repaid to the "team" in nou at launch. (200m nou) So not invested at all. (the other $1.25 is only on trust, as I said, "funny handshakes")
Also there seems no mention on nou forum that the founders stay on for three years, at 100m nou per yr as advisers, although honestly, there are almost no "serious" questions, or answers on nou forum are there?

Some members here tried, respectfully it seems to me, to discuss nou in depth, but were more or less dismissed as trolls.

Transparency is more "marketing speak". I have "studied" nou for a few months now, and still know nothing because in truth, nor do the "team".
IF they do know any details they aint telling us. Any questions on nou forum are either met with silence, misinformation, ramblings or such.
The team often respond with "I get back to you" or "heads up"-nothing ever comes of it.

NomadBR and gurkin were banned because they had a little moan at Dan "Dank" Kaufman, his only posting, but were among the most intelligent   
users on nou forum IMO. NomadBR even said he bought nou. What sort of totalitarian ship does Dank run?

Kim seems genuine to me. nou team fucked up her survey reward because they cant get the email responder to work properly. pathetic. (dont tell me it wasn't their fault it never is) Another pissed off customer.


I wont go on.








1289  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: June 10, 2015, 08:07:21 PM
when are they releasing the coin to investors?

As soon as they can cobble something together
1290  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: June 10, 2015, 02:50:03 PM
I guess that you can add me to the soon to be banned list.

Kudos for your DD everyone.

Your not banned....yet. (or Kim) There seems to be a new policy of lovin. "They're a friendly bunch"
Half a dozen or so mods roam the corridors of nou forum ready to give likes to any post going. the more mundane and inaccurate, the better.
Latest mod addition is "BTC2You4Free" a "minor" (young person).
Just try to get a clear, straight answer to ANYTHING!
Or, for guaranteed banning, simply reply directly to Dan "Dank" Kaufman
Good luck with that

(BTW 24 hours after Dartious posting x10 increase in tx fees, no reaction on nou forum, except 1 like?)
1291  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: June 09, 2015, 02:45:52 PM
Nocoin TX fees have gone up x10 today.
Dartious just edited post of april 22. (presale BS)

Darteous
1h
Tx will be fixed at .01 neu not .001 as accidentally stated earlier.
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/a-few-answers-for-common-neucoin-questions-answered-here/121/60

Not too great for tipping, more rewards for founders.
Presale purchasers are gonna be delighted I not think.
1292  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: June 07, 2015, 09:45:15 PM
For your further amusement, check out the level of delusion and naïveté here:

http://forum.neucoin.org/t/neucoin-speculation/1209

Oh God how I wish there was a way to short this!

lol, James just posted. Not a fuckin clue.
1293  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: June 07, 2015, 08:29:45 PM
When blockchain.info comes back online I shall continue my search through Sandrines btc wallet.
So far, if I understand, I have established-

Sandrines "wrong address wallet" starts with 1000btc less than 24h before presale.

The 1000btc are "spent" over the next few days of the presale. (Im actually not quite to the end yet) Im guessing about 1000 small transactions.

I have identified 29 separate purchases from this wallet, spread over the 3 days of presale. (just the easy to find ones)

The address posted on neu forum by Sandrine is the only purchase (of the 29 found) that did not get moved to mrNuks that night as scheduled. (moved 2 days later to MrNuks)

Mostly small purchases of varying amounts. some whole coin purchases, some fractional. (for example, 4btc or 1.21460895btc)

2 purchases 20-30 min before presale was live

2 payments to Bitcointalk Forums





1294  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: June 04, 2015, 08:59:52 PM

Hold the popcorn, we got 4 months till launch, there still work to do, IF your so enclined!

I have a (new) conundrum.
Can you (or anyone) read the blockchain, have you got a few hours you could spare? I would very much appreciate some help here, Im stuck!

When the presale was live Sandrine posted a "wrong btc address" on this thread. http://forum.neucoin.org/t/presale-timeline/152/329
She meant to post https://blockchain.info/address/3MrNuksZ1VePU3dGiSQFiouWerJUJgDkfH (the address holding neucoin presale btc)
But accidentally posted https://blockchain.info/address/3AVupf8G33XnXTrE3AFSSDyqs9vbzWFEVJ
A conversation ensues between Sandrine and user Cellophanebirdcalls, who noticed the mistake.

Read posts 320 to 332 for the story. It took me a few reads to get the feel of it.
Briefly, Cellophnebirdcalls see's 666btc and panics. Sandrine "cant understand" how 666btc was seen by him, even posting a screenshot to show 0.0144btc in this wallet. No mention why she may have posted this address. the 0.0144 ends up in 3mrNuks address. Unfortunately Cellophanebirdcalls cannot screenshot but does describe some of what he see's.

Why wouldn't Sandrine just say oops thats one of our customers address?
Why does 0.0144 (out of 666 btc wallet?) go to neucoin. Min purchase was 0.1 btc?
Why Sandrine post screenshot of 0.0144, then say "the number in itself is interesting" (666 btc) as a reason for her actions?

just does not seem right. would just like to know. Any thoughts? thanks

edit. think I have found multiple purchases from (connected to) 3AVupf8G33XnXTrE3AFSSDyqs9vbzWFEVJ
for example
37jPv7GWHgLE8Xc7NrXar32FtTrWu86pSZ
3QRv8tjXBNMXZQyn3mm7AzJxc1X1fqYiXH



1295  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: June 03, 2015, 06:18:42 PM



What was this coin supposed to do? Can anyone say in 1 sentence?




turn unimportant FUD into facts
1296  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: June 02, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
I will make it clearer on the forum tomorrow. For now the unofficial faq is pretty clear now.
Most of Gurkins posts were left untouched. His posts that were deemed inappropriate/ harmful to the forum atmosphere were deleted. Where as the previous person to get banned (Gekko) had all of his posts deleted. So he was pointing out that difference. Inappropriate posts are going to be deleted, I wouldn't consider Mark statement to be a lie. When a customer comes in making tons of short tempered demands most people would have no problem with said customers being thrown out because said customers aren't respectful. In fact they tend to prefer it, that way things aren't being slowed down unnecessarily and the community that likes the service can continue it's natural flow.

you can do as you please on neu forum. As I have shown there are many more inaccuracies than that.

"Most of Gurkins posts were left untouched."  Is a VERY different statement to "His posts remain however"

"His posts that were deemed inappropriate/ harmful to the forum atmosphere were deleted" There was only 1 post deleted, shortly before ban. (unless you know better, dont imply there were multiple, as this would suggest a repeatedly troublesome sort of user. there is no suggestion that is the case) (Same deletion/ban for NomadBR but this has not been mentioned on neu forum)

" (Gekko) had all of his posts deleted" You KNOW this is not true. there is one post left as you correctly informed neu forum

"So he (Mark) was pointing out that difference." So gurkin had 1 post deleted, Gekko had all BUT 1 deleted and the way to express this is to say "His posts remain however" I dont buy that.

"Inappropriate posts are going to be deleted" How is this 1 post* so inappropriate? (except it is a reply to captain Dan "Dank" Kaufman. Could he not defend himself against such minor dissent?) (*re posted below for clarity)

"I wouldn't consider Mark statement to be a lie." Well I certainly dont consider it to be true and Feel Mark KNEW it to be so, (explained post May 27)
 I do feel it is "deceitful" at best. (my personal opinion only)

*here is the deleted post again, is it really material for banishment? A little bit uppity maybe
                                                                     -----------------------------------------
gurkin
< 1m
dank

hi @dank welcome to the forum.
it is not fair to dump all that on @NomadBR. he is only one person who would have liked a simple explanation weeks ago.
others have used the word shady. this question, and others about the team, have been kicking around for ages. 11 days ago @Sandrine said you would come back on this.(thats probably the forum average anyway!)
@NomadBR quotes are in the main from the fyc/government.web site, i think, so were relevant to his question, and informative as to why the case was brought.
we have recently discussed asking and answering difficult questions here. they are allowed     
                                                                           ---------------------------------------

Why pretend this never existed. Probably because other neu forum users would also be stunned by the heavy handedness, had they been told. catch 22.

I have JUST REALIZED gurkin has "@" Dank, NomadBR and Sandrine. They WILL have been sent an EMAIL of this DELETED post! So others did know, as I suspected. hmmm.. the plot thickens?



1297  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: June 02, 2015, 09:46:50 AM
NEWSFLASH - ban in progress


Kim
3h

For those following this: now Mark has informed me that my answers were simply not found! Simply ludicrous.

soooo, after complaining about not receiving what was promised in exchange for filling a lengthy survey, I have have been threatened with ban and unceremoniously told that the reason was likely that I have "filed junk". After I ask for my answers to be publicized for scrutiny, tadadada, my answers vanish into thin air!! I guess they weren't junk after all eh?

Really ironic for some of you to portray this as a welcoming place yet advocate banning those whose views are not aligned with yours. Very democratic! Have you read the lovely comments people are leaving on other venues about neucoin? You can "decapitate" [as suggested by myhash] people who complain here, but it will just increase the uproar elsewhere. Someone who walks into your store and complains about an unmet expectation should be immediately kicked out of the store? I'm sure that would go down very well with the majority of other folks witnessing the scene, just as is happening now.

Perspective buyers will not be put off by some random person screaming "scam!" without a good reason, but they will be put off by bad service, undelivered promises, and totalitarian attitude. Censorship as means to attain mass adoption? groundbreaking!!

                                   (This post has been flagged and will soon disappear)

http://forum.neucoin.org/t/how-many-neucoin-do-you-will-distribute-for-me/1046/47


EDIT- http://forum.neucoin.org/users/kim/activity This post has been removed from Kims history. Ban pending?
Kim was on my list of "complainers bans pending" post May 30
read back to kims first post, very...er...interesting!

EDIT-11.40 If Interested, read the whole thread!  http://forum.neucoin.org/t/how-many-neucoin-do-you-will-distribute-for-me/1046
It starts with a complaint/enquiry about the EMAIL not working, (when it matters to people) posted by "johnfound1161,This user is suspended until May 21, 2016 4:17pm.Reason: Harassing the moderator in private messages.  http://forum.neucoin.org/users/johnfound1161/activity

EDIT-20.20 Kim post reinstated, for now. Kim not returned yet. (dont think neucoin wanted it broadcast live, may have affected outcome!)
1298  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: June 02, 2015, 09:01:18 AM
I think the "grown ups"  are a bit too busy to deal with trolls, but I'll ask them.

Could you post the link that has Mark lying.

The emails telling people about the blog and the emails telling people about the soon to start presale worked properly. But that may have been before you heard about Neu.

You seemed to be complaining about the number/percentage of users so I was giving a logical explanation as to why it's low.

That page is just where you can see the mods. We're considering adding more than just the currently new additions so haven't announced it on the thread yet.

All of those threads link to the wiki. There are the ten neucoin team which in the thread "who are the admins" The usernames on the forum are given. In the unofficial faq I point out the active forum admins and mods. Is English your second language? In which case I apologize. I suppose I didn't take that possibility into account. I will see about making it a bit clearer on the forum.


OK, I thought all the trolls were here?

This is the link http://forum.neucoin.org/t/how-best-to-manage-and-moderate-discussions-on-this-forum-to-ensure-neucoin-s-success/1003/10
May 20 post 12 USER asks
On a different note, anyone know why gurkin has been banned for a year?
May 20 post 13 MARK says
We banned him because of his generally negative tone of commentary over the duration of his time on the forum. His posts remain however.
(this is 2 days after deleting gurkin and NomadBR replies to Dan "Dank" Kaufman)
(no user asked about deleting, "his posts remain however" was "extra info")

Yes, but the confirmation of survey rewards/presale purchase emails have problems

Im not "complaining" about the user numbers, just pointing out that there is a significant difference between "zombie" users and "active" users.
I recognize your logic, however it was incorrect, so of little or no relevance as explanation.

"that page" What page? This page? http://forum.neucoin.org/about lists 7 mods and 5 admins. (you said there were 2 mods yourself & James)
Are these the new mods?, are there more mods to be announced?, are these the admins? which list is correct?

The links in my "edits" (edits 1-4) post May 30 all reveal different lists/ titles/combinations of admins/mods. NO list is clearly definitive over another.
check http://forum.neucoin.org/t/who-are-the-admins/127 as you suggest, post 2, Sandrine says "Hi @Darteous! The admins are myself, Dank, Ophelie, and Ludpo, and Arcanis are part of the team.
chech http://forum.neucoin.org/about says "our admins" Sandrine, Ophelie, Dank, Johan, Mark. "our mods" M3ndi3, Ludpo, Whateveryousayman, James, Arcanis, Kourosh, Dartious.
Looks like different lists to me, as i say, confusion.

English is my first language, which is why I am able to see these lists conflict each other. How will you be able to make it clearer on neu forum if you cannot see the problem - make another list?


1299  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: June 01, 2015, 07:44:26 PM
Oh, so thats it?

no apology, no answer to my important questions, (Important to me anyway) no factual comment. Basically what I expected.

neucoin,
Firstly, please answer questions in my previous posts. (AS I keep asking, you know, stuff like "will Marks post now be corrected?)
Its not cool to correct my post with your own inaccurate postings. (Or those of your mods, acting on your behalf)
neucoin FUD.


"And that is the problem I have found with neucoin, it is so hard to get to the truth, even on the most trivial issues,
let alone anything MEANINGFULL! Every time I look I find more crap. It takes effort for anyone to try to correct so it mostly goes unchallenged."
Quote- myself May 28
Dartious, your post personifies my quote here I feel. There is no point replying if you dont know ANY of the answers.
I will run through your post quickly, hopefully you may understand more what I am saying.


"I haven't had quite as much time so haven't gotten to the bitcointalk thread. There were some minor issues with the email"
Please dont post inaccurately then not return for days, Its not polite. The emailer has NEVER worked properly, shame you have NO TECH TEAM

"I'm not sure how the discourse measures the day"
Its  rolling 24 hours

"the Neu team is quite busy working for right now I don't see the need for tons of conversation until we're closer to launch"
Then dont post here, inaccurately, and expect me to wait quietly till your ready to come back

"which would make them having straight zeroes across the board reasonable."
NO. You dont get it. If you visit it is RECORDED. you will NOT have a straight ZERO anymore.

"You expect heavy activity between Wednesday and Thursday?"
my posts on the matter were on Thursday and Saturday

"right now people aren't going to be rushing to the forum everyday."
You got that right.

"I would guess eviltrout just pops in awaiting more pressing information."
NO. You dont get it. He joined Jan 28. He has not visited EVER since. SEE HIS HISTORY

"I would hardly call it a PR disaster."
We shall agree to disagree on that.

"I don't see how you are confused question #25"
Because all those edit links I listed all reveal DIFFERENT people. there is no DEFINITIVE list, or if there is which one?

"James and I are community moderators and a few more are being added and it will be announced soon."
Is this the ANNOUNCEMENT? http://forum.neucoin.org/about (IT lists 7 MODS)

"The mods are mods because they are active community members"
Fair enough, IF there were more "users." BTW mods at neu all seem happy to post inaccurately.

"I was referring to before "events". Changing our posts after the fact could be misconstrued as trying to hide something"
That is EXACTLY what happened. gurkin and NomadBR replies to "DANK" deleted. 2 days later MARK says "NO POSTS DELETED"

"There was no need to announce it."
Agreed. But when asked WHY gurkin was banned, MARK "OFFERED" the "EXTRA" info that "HIS POSTS REMAIN HOWEVER" -Deceitful

"What did Mark state as fact that wasn't?"
see above explanation, or try reading my posts

"5% 1-4 months prelaunch doesn't sound bad to me."
OK if your happy with that, but please dont specifically refer to people who never visit as "active users"

"If you were trying to increase transparency then you wouldn't be trying to spin unimportant facts into FUD."
You CORRECTING me by saying 242 active users, just because your computer says so, THATS OK IS IT?

UNIMPORTANT FACTS INTO FUD, LOL.

Please send one of the grown ups next time!?

1300  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: May 31, 2015, 08:09:36 PM
Dartious and neucoin,
Firstly, please answer questions in my previous posts.
Its not cool to correct my post with your own inaccurate post, then dont come check response for days.
neucoin FUD.

Now, while I await your response, how "active" are "users" on neu forum?
Lets take a look,

When i posted my "just for fun" here, 21st May, gurkin was 14th on this years most likes list, NomadBR was 17th.
NOW gurkin is still 14th, NomadBR has moved UP to 15th! WTF?
http://forum.neucoin.org/users?period=yearly

I cant compare weekly likes, as these bans were (very nearly) 2 weeks ago! So I will look at the last month. (I know, its not very fair as NomadBR and gurkin have been banned for almost half that time.)
gurkin comes in 8th place! (ahead of him are 5 mods/team and 2 "users") NomadBR makes it into the top 20!
http://forum.neucoin.org/users?period=monthly

I dont think gurkin or NomadBR were EVER any higher up the list than that. There are NO real new users coming through the neu forum to dislodge their standings.

Now, lets check badge holders, as this helps get a better overall picture. http://forum.neucoin.org/badges

Out of 771 total "users" only 304 have achieved "basic" level. The other 467 "users" are, in general, zombie accounts, as seen in my user lists.
(it is sooo easy to achieve basic level, anyone who is a tiny weeny tinsy little bit interested will achieve this)

Of the 304 "users" to achieve "basic or better" many of those are themselves inactive now.
(I cant list them all, there are to many. you will have to do your own confirmation. just click on the "user" avatars. you will soon see how inactive most are. http://forum.neucoin.org/badges/1/basic-user)
Also discard the dozen mods/team, and discard a dozen exiles, banned but still classed as "users".

My "honest" best guess as to how many "active" users out of 771?
30-40, TOTAL AT BEST, and disappearing fast. (thats 5% of listed users)

"Active users" BS

Im just trying to increase transparency.
There is no more interest at neu forum Since the cull. (at least 3 others have been banned since)
What a PR disaster that was.
Now they invent "users".

BTW, Has Kourosh had enough? Has he heeded Gekkos warning of prison? Is he the latest team member to quit?
He has not posted in over a week. (although TBF, there is nearly nobody to post to? mods/team outnumber "active" users already on a daily basis)

P.S apologies to forum members here for my over activity on these matters (if anyone is left here lol). Seems the neu team gibberish has ceased. neucoin please close this ANN page if you aint gonna attend it, its embarrassing now.






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