Before putting more money into Bitcoin you realy should read about it's past. There were many serious issues, from someone creating almost unlimited amount of BTC to unintended hard-forks and BTC lost because official wallet had no password, at all. And lately there was massive debate (still on-going, not sure) about block size and few other aspects so you can not realy speak about stable cruising. There are also four (4) competing implementations of basic wallet, all hoping to get attention and adoption by miners and users and thus shift Bitcoin the route they want which you might not like, at all.

Pa eno bila je nedavno emisija o Bitcoin na TV i kao glavni kriticar je bio ako se ne varam Oleg iz BUG-a, znaci njega treba najesti i napiti i eto reklame u najcitanijem kompjuter-casopisu u HR. 

As for Crypto 2.0 coins:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1153740.0

But even that won't help you much unless you actualy used those coins, extensively and more than once.


Dozens of them went up 1000% or more, not sure where you are looking.

As for everything else you posted, a problem here is that so many are double-binary = Bitcoin only and the only way is up. Else I'm gonna jump off the building. That is insane. Sure, they can make money, possibly more than with altcoins (totaly doubt that though) but still they are insane and I don't feel well dealing with insane people even if we all are trillionaires.

"Quality" of avatar you are using is actualy representing the exact "quality" of Startcoin wallet, network and pretty much everything else.  

Meetup samo da bi se nasla ekipa je po meni bezveze. To mi dodje kao neka sekta ili kult. Bolje je ako se meetup moze odraditi tako da ima i nesto konkretnije i dugorocnije od same price i druzenja, recimo kao sto je bila izlozba slika u Gjuro2. Ideja koja je meni pala na pamet prije par mjeseci je da se okupi ne samo postojeca cryptocoin ekipa vec i da "dovucemo" sto je vise moguce kompjuterasa na meetup pa im se svima objasni kako se postavlja Bitcoin full-node. Usput ide i live streaming za one koji ne mogu doci. Pa onda nakon meetupa Hrvatska skoci na recimo deseto mjesto (ili prvo ) na https://bitnodes.21.co/ i onda bude show program i ludilo, sve nas pohvataju i pozatvaraju. Ma zakon! Zezam se ali ovo sa full-nodes bi bilo zanimljivo odraditi, bila bi dobra propaganda.

Ma nista od toga ni od mojih prijedloga, vidis da se nisu ovdje pojavili vec tjednima. A sigurno im je nesto ili netko drugi kriv sto je trade volume na BitKonan samo nekoliko BTC dnevno, koja ekipa.

Emotional trading so I'm doing the oppossite, selling bits of BTC and buying bits of altcoins. "Sell when everyone are buying and buy when everyone are selling" is a proven winning strategy. 

Many people lost a lot of money (or all the money) on Bitcoin or whatever else. Satoshi Nakamoto is still by far the richest Bitcoiner, owning possibly over 1 million BTC. What was your point, realy?


Learn to trade before any buy and hold, Bitcoin or whatever else.

It is rolling until few known pools and few known major miners are confronted by guns and black copters or are simply prevented from accessing Internet (trivial). At that time you'll love if you have a stake in something less centralized, like well-distributed PoS altcoins where hundreds of mostly unknown people are running the show and are in many cases actualy using the same secure code as Bitcoin excluding the gimmicks.

One bank, one leader, one exchange, one coin, one whatever means a single point of inevitable failure so good luck with Bitcoin only.

ROFL, so you are all-in on Bitcoin but altcoins are gamble? Do you think you are somehow not a gambler? What's more, what would happen with your investment if you wake up tommorow and Jamie Dimon kept his promise about stopping Bitcoin?

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20151106/08022132734/jpmorgan-ceo-jamie-dimon-says-government-will-stop-bitcoin.shtml

If you think Bitcoin is much safer investment than altcoins you are crazy, realy. Anything crypto is a high risk investment.

Are you sure? Becase, as you can see on this very thread, central planning mentality is still very strong. Bitcoin or nothing! Just rise 1 BTC to 1 billion USD and you'll witness absolute and unseen tyranny, dictatorship and wickedness by this very people so into Bitcoin and Bitcoin only. Or BitShares and BitShares only, Qora and Qora only and so on. Nope, nothing realy changed. Not even wealth redistribution is something unseen.


I am not missing anything. This thread was not ment to be of a "buy this and that" kind, do your own research.

It is just bigger than altcoins, not more secure and definitely not better.

Just because everyone are going crazy about that old, slow, worn-out but the first-ever and most widely used car you should not be dismissing Lambos and Ferraries lurking in the shadows. For example, what one can do with NXT alone is actualy more (and 10 times faster) than if Bitcoin is combined with Counterparty and dozens of 3rd-party centralized services. And some altcoins are so light that one can run a full-node on smartphone which means as trustless and decentralized as you can go with Bitcoin but without a need for a computer. That is a real deal to me and an area where Bitcoin already lost the battle.

Well, obviously, you should not be investing much money into mere clones. Most are realy not going anywhere but there are exceptions like Doge, where past and present coin popularity could boost massive upswing. And there are definitely not "re-inventing" the wheel coins like NXT, Ethereum, BitShares, Qora and few others but again, unless you actualy used them it is a waste of time to talk about why they could 1000% or more.

Facebook was not much more than MySpace was but that did not prevented it from dethroning MySpace and all others.

Altcoins can grow much higher but unless you actualy checked and used many of them it is sort of pointless to debate that with you. In any case, holding only Bitcoin is much like holding only gold or silver or Facebook stock. Here I am advising diversification within cryptocoin sector as a sort of hedging against unexpected Bitcoin demise. I'm not telling you to invest all bitcoins into altcoins.


The same was true for Bitcoin not so long ago.

Low liquidity means extreme upside potential! Besides, Bitcoin went up so much exactly because bagholding aka HODL so I don't find your argument good enough to dismiss altcoin markets recovery.

Sure, Bitcoin can go up 100% from here but altcoins can go up 1000% much easier and much faster, given their current marketcaps and lack of liquidity. But do not wait for too long, buy at least a small amount of altcoins at current very low prices and smile later when majority suddenly (re)discovers altcoins, many of which outperform Bitcoin is all technical aspects. Pretty much every noob investor and speculator is dumping altcoins now so you should be slowly buying them.

Pa gdje su sada oni silni noobsi koji hoce kupiti BTC za PayPal ili sta vec? Ajmo ljudi, treba mi ova ladica hitno, da se ne zezam sa vanjskim USB HDD (spoooooro) kada radim backup primarnog HDD.

Available For Sale 970,000 coins with Last Price $0.4 per MSK = Extremely overpriced, no thanks.

Explorer at http://qora.co.in/? is down for 3 days but no one seems to care.