Everything that has become a habit will make someone feel something is missing if they don't do it, sometimes their goal is not always to win, as experienced by my friend where he doesn't care whether the results at the end of the session will win or lose again but he still does it, which maybe this can be interpreted that gambling has become a necessity for someone who has entered the addiction phase.

Maybe I would say that gamblers who are addicted are those who are very dependent on the activity, I don't know the exact reason but in my opinion everything starts with gambling without being based on the right understanding and knowledge about gambling, which most likely they only focus on winning opportunities so they ignore other aspects of gambling that should actually be more concerned such as the possibility of losing which can never be tolerated. Someone who has entered the addiction phase has a problem in their way of thinking, they have a very high level of belief in gambling and are also very obsessed with the activity where the point is all they want is to continue gambling, and what I believe is that someone can reach the level of consciousness to realize that he is addicted along with making the decision to stop when he has experienced a very significant impact that makes him feel traumatized.

True, everything always depends on how serious you are in dedicating yourself to struggle tirelessly, because on the other hand I think we have often heard about people who want to achieve success in their lives but their dreams are not accompanied by an action then obviously it is nothing more than just empty, And usually I often hear that people want to achieve success when they hear or see other people, especially people around them who have achieved success, and it really seems to motivate them but however motivated you are by the success of others if for example you only "say or dream" without being accompanied by any action then obviously it is nothing more than a hallucination.

However everything must start with thinking and acting, and I understand that there may be people who are less fortunate where they have a more difficult situation such as being in a poor life situation, but actually success does not see what your life situation is, the proof we can see is that there are quite a lot of successful people who were born poor, and what distinguishes them is that they have unusual intentions and seriousness along with having a personality that never gives up and is always willing to work hard, and you have said the right thing above and maybe the last thing from me is someone who has great potential to achieve success is those who can always look for and utilize all opportunities to the maximum.

Yes it is, and maybe anyone can answer my question and choose the one that you think is better to choose between forcing to invest in a state of stress due to other things with the risk of experiencing adverse effects on your health or not investing at all (not getting a profit) and the benefits are most likely that you will not experience a bad situation on your health then which one would you choose? I think the first is not an option because it is useless for you to succeed in making a profit but if the process has an adverse effect on your health that maybe the money from the profit will be lost again by hospital fees.

Of course as you said that the best step is to first solve the problem that is being experienced or at least you find a little time to calm your brain and mind so as not to be too stressed and when you feel good enough then only then can you invest or challenge a market to open a position. What we must understand in this case is that investing or trading is always recommended to be done based on favorable situations and conditions such as when you are feeling fine because decision making must always be based on calmness to be able to make the right decision, and in fact forcing ourselves to trade when we are under stress will only lead us to bad results because decision making is not based on common sense and rational mindset due to you being in a state of stress.

True, it won't really be able to fully help gamblers to avoid the possibility of addiction or unsolicited actions because as you said above it all comes back to the gambler themselves which means that if for example they are one of those gamblers who are obsessed with gambling or those who gamble in the wrong way then they still won't take advantage of the exclusion feature because they will consider that the feature is not in accordance with their wishes which they only want to continue using their time to gamble.

I think the scenario may be similar to addicted gamblers where they are immune to suggestions and criticism, they will not listen to them and will continue to ignore something that does not suit them, so even though for example the purpose of the feature is to minimize gamblers from entering the addiction phase, but still in the end all decisions are in their hands which will make them free in terms of making a choice even though the choice will only lead them to a bad situation. So actually the key to not ending up addicted is always in themselves, in the sense that if for example they can maintain their gambling involvement properly such as always prioritizing limits and self-control then without such features they will definitely do many things to prevent themselves from falling into addiction.

Yup that's right, most gamblers these days think that fulfilling the requirements of the casino such as doing KYC does not affect the results of their gambling, or simply they think that even though they register in the right way along with doing KYC as recommended by the casino but there are always some gamblers who do not care about this because of the assumption that there is no effect on the results of gambling or simply KYC does not make them succeed in winning at the end of the session which makes them think that fulfilling KYC requirements is just a waste of time.

Most gamblers come just to play and want to know the outcome of winning or losing right away but when they experience problems outside of winning or losing such as poor service issues that make them disappointed or even the casino does not process the following by not paying the winnings achieved by the gambler because they chose the casino carelessly then obviously there is a high probability of regret, and yes I agree with you that it is better to spend at least a little time looking for a casino that really has a pretty good reputation and is trusted by many gamblers because if many gamblers put positive comments on the casino then I think things are less likely to happen.

Everything that is called addiction then it means that it involves excessive actions that make in the end they are addicted consciously or unconsciously and excessive actions can apply to anything that makes the person curious or that makes them addicted to return to feel like drug addiction or maybe gambling which both do have elements of addiction. And let's get to the point that the effects of drugs themselves can clearly remove a person's consciousness and if they gamble while taking drugs then yes of course the chances are that they will definitely make decisions that are too risky which is done unconsciously because of the influence of these drugs.

For the problem of the effects caused may not be much different from when we are in a state of fatigue because of something like lack of sleep or after finishing work that makes you tired which is clear that our brains and bodies need time to rest but if you force to gamble at that time then yes as you said above that the impact is most likely you will make the wrong decision such as risking a large amount of money. But the point is that in any condition you gamble if for example you are lucky enough then you will also win but gambling with situations and conditions where you are tired or under the influence of drugs then the situation has a high probability of making you experience a significant defeat because you will not be able to think and consider everything rationally.

Not mandatory but indeed the age of 18 is an age that is quite allowed to be involved in the world of gambling, one of the reasons is because the age of 18 is an age where someone has begun to enter a fairly mature mindset which is simply that they already have the ability to distinguish between good and bad to make a choice in any case and also they are able to make some considerations that are quite reasonable and rational to make a decision that they think is good and right.

Another thing is that yes I quite agree with your idea that everyone has a different perspective regarding gambling but overall what makes more sense is to have a perspective that is in accordance with the reality that gambling is a high risk activity especially if it is done without being based on the right understanding which in the end is like some cases that have occurred where they even entered the addiction phase because they tried to treat gambling in the wrong way due to having an incorrect understanding. But yes, of course, in the end, whoever you are and whatever your age, caution and vigilance must always be prioritized if you are involved in gambling because however the risks involved in gambling can destroy a person's life in a short period of time if they treat gambling in the wrong way. Yes there are some countries that do legalize gambling activities for their people but however gambling can never be made as a place to earn.

Honestly so far and as far as I can remember, I have never done anything crazy just to get involved in gambling, I understand that such decisions can be made by gamblers but I think most gamblers who have a proper understanding of gambling they will not want to do something too reckless like that, because they understand that there are possible risks that will continue to lurk them wherever and whenever they gamble so risk management is a top priority such as applying many restrictions to prevent or minimize something too significant like losing.

On the other hand I am with some gamblers who even dare to take risks that are really far from their abilities that they even go to the extent of using all means just to gamble when they don't have money such as borrowing, stealing, robbing or cheating and usually they are gamblers who from the start only focus and think about the chances of winning so that when they succeed in winning one of the wins then usually they will put very high hopes and confidence in winning and obviously these are gamblers who will eventually lead to the addiction phase.

I think most gamblers experience the same scenario as you, or I mean they get caught up in their curiosity when they lose at the beginning of their involvement, on the other hand I'm not accusing you but it seems like you came to gambling without a true understanding of what gambling is and maybe you came with the intention of multiplying so when you lose then the situation is a situation that is difficult for you to accept which in turn makes you experience curiosity. However if a gambler comes with a proper understanding of gambling then I think it is less likely for them to have curiosity in them or even act to chase their losses to reach the recovery stage that even the situation makes you desperate to take a loan, while a gambler who has a proper understanding will not do that because it means you increase the chance of losing for a larger amount, but fortunately the people closest to you tell you that putting curiosity in gambling will only lead you to a more likely disaster.

Yes I quite agree with your opinion because the overall facts in gambling will not support someone to really be able to achieve a definite victory, and as you said that gambling can never be predicted 100% accurately, regardless of the type of gambling and wherever you gamble there will still ultimately never be 100% accurate odds.

I think we have to go back to the fact about the concept of gambling which is nothing more than a probability activity that will always end up in one of two possibilities, namely winning or losing, winning is nothing more than a chance and losing is a sure thing, meaning there is absolutely no certainty of being able to get a win no matter how skilled you are because of course the name of gambling activity can never be separated from the possibility of losing, I am not saying that you will not be able to win but what is certain and what must be remembered is that there is absolutely no certainty and maybe if you are lucky then you will also be able to win like everyone else, this is what makes me not believe in experts about those who can turn opportunities into certainty, so honestly I prefer to gamble with my own abilities because experts will only win if they are lucky and the winning scenario may be the same as us.

Hmm, yes, patience is indeed an aspect that is needed and recommended to be applied to yourself when you are carrying out a gambling session, but to be honest, I don't agree with that.
for example, we make patience a benchmark in terms of achieving victory, which doesn't make sense because patience is usually more useful for minimizing something like emotions which can make someone always experience a greater number of losses when they don't.
being able to control one's emotions due to defeat, for example, which means clearly, in my opinion, patience is useful for minimizing the possibility of significant losses and has nothing to do with winning, simply put, even though you are impatient, if for example it is your lucky time coming then you will definitely be able to win, but that victory it will be easy to lose it again when you can't exercise patience.

On the other hand, you explain two things here, namely patience and greed, where as you said, someone who continues gambling after they have won, usually the winnings will be lost again and that means they are greedy because they are not satisfied with the amount of winnings. beforehand and they also ignore other aspects of gambling such as possible risks which clearly will make them feel regret after committing greed, meaning that it is always recommended for gamblers to know when to row and when to pull over at the right time.

Of course because addiction is the worst phase in the sense that it has or can have the worst impact on a gambler when he has entered that phase where addiction is a situation where a person is already at a high level of interest in gambling and the impact is certainly very bad, the impact of addiction can cause many problems and can destroy a person's life in various aspects such as perhaps in terms of financial ruin due to debt or destruction of relationships with families where lately I have not rarely seen or heard of several couples who ended up in divorce due to one of them suffering from gambling addiction which made the family's economy plummet.

On the other hand, I quite agree with the idea that is often said by people here that addiction is a disease that is difficult to overcome, because this is a disease that exists in the human brain where they are very obsessed with gambling along with putting hope and faith in gambling to be able to get a lot of wins, and I think this is a matter of misunderstanding or the point is that from the beginning they misunderstood what gambling meant, And the point is that one of the reasons why addiction is difficult to overcome is because the gambler still has a high interest in gambling which means that if for example the interest has disappeared for some reason then I would say that it is an easy situation to recover from addiction and I experienced it and have proven it myself.

Yes it is true as you said that anyone can get a bigger chance of winning or a bigger chance of losing but mostly and overall I am sure that if you have entered the addiction phase then obviously it is definitely the number of losses or the possibility of losing that will be greater, no other reason because someone who is addicted will definitely treat his gambling activities in an excessive way because of the hope of more wins while on the other hand the fact of gambling is always about possibilities, or that means the chances of winning are no more than a possibility and it is difficult to get good luck to end the session with a win.

Therefore of course the number of losses will definitely be greater than the winnings because there is absolutely no certainty whatsoever in a place that is only a game of probability, and on the other hand in addition gambling is a business for casinos which as a whole will only benefit the casino and not the gamblers which is why it is only natural that you experience a greater number of losses than wins if you treat gambling in an excessive manner and this is why we are always advised to gamble in moderation and put a lot of limits.

Yes, it's true that it's a perspective that I think is quite confusing, because the advice is still within the gambling circle - instead of banning it altogether with some suggestions and points that make more sense to suggest to beginners who are just getting involved, for myself to be honest I would would rather advise anyone to see the bad possibility of addiction in gambling, but in the way you said, namely by identifying the possibility or potential, which we must know and must not ignore several characteristics that can lead us to addiction, such as gambling without placing limits on time. and budget and also gamble by placing excessive hopes and expectations. However, gambling is an activity that can make a person lose consciousness over time and usually this happens when gamblers overreact to their gambling sessions for some reason, therefore the solution is to understand and remember several possible actions that can lead you to addiction and The following is also by placing firmness on boundaries so that we remain at a good level of awareness.

Well, that's true and I agree with this that when we gamble on a type of game that really relies purely on luck to win then obviously we will never be able to find out what made us lose, or what that means is that you will never know what mistake we made. what happens that makes your bet lose, and maybe I think all types of gambling also have something in common in this case where defeat can never be learned to find the point of error, and maybe I would advise you to re-examine the concept of gambling where the name betting activity will only refer to one of the two possibilities, namely the possibility of winning or losing, and that is normal because this is a bet that can never be learned. Therefore, this is why it is better for us to better prepare ourselves to have the ability to accept the fact of defeat because no matter how simple it is, if you don't win then you will definitely lose, and this is why we say that victory comes because of luck. Of course I agree with you that it is better for us to think about stopping immediately when we lose because chasing losses will only lead us to a much worse situation.

A very good statement and I agree with you completely on this issue where gambling actually depends on how lucky you are during the session, simply put, if you are unlucky then defeat will be the result at the end of the session. On the other hand, maybe the win you mentioned was very big and of course it was a very surprising and pleasant situation for the gambler, but what we have to look at here is not the amount of the win but the impact of the win, where when you manage to get a big win then Your level of curiosity and hope will also be greater in gambling, especially in winnings, where usually then you will gamble in a more aggressive way and even though you win, if for example the amount is small or means much smaller than the winnings you previously managed to get then usually you won't want to stop and you will only stop when you win with the same amount as the previous win or even much bigger.

I would really say that this is a fact where I saw one of my friends who managed to get a big win in this type of slot game which made him experience an increase in putting hope and confidence in winning, he thought that in the next session he would definitely You can win again like that and usually the amount of money deposited to gamble will also increase and the way you play will also become more aggressive. And I will say that this is a person's development that will lead to a more chronic level of addiction, and one thing I will tell you all is that no matter how big the number of wins they manage to get, believe me that in fact the amount they lost previously was usually much greater if calculated.

I'm going to help you a little bit in terms of explaining what luck is, which is that luck is something that doesn't come and doesn't go, which means that we simply don't know when it will come, because if luck could be known when it comes then wouldn't there be no gambling in this world? Of course, because if luck could be known then surely most casinos would go bankrupt because most gamblers would always manage to win large amounts of money, but that's not the case. Still at the end of the day luck is something that you can't always know when it will come, and this is the reason why we should limit our gambling activities, don't overdo it because it will only make you lose more and also because luck will not always come in streaks. But unfortunately most gamblers always think that it is the right time to chase victory because they are too excessive in terms of putting confidence, even though luck can never know when it comes, so it is only natural that more defeats dominate than wins.

True, there is absolutely no instant way to get something big like success, in any case even in a field that has enough certainty, and yes of course as you said that gambling is just something that colors our lives or gambling is just a flavoring. And to be honest I really don't understand how people think especially for those who put high hopes on winning, the logic is how can you get that much money just by gambling? hey, it's just a hallucination, gambling is not a medium to get rich instantly, and as you said that there are no shortcuts to achieve something big.

This means that it makes no sense to put high hopes on something that has absolutely no certainty and guarantee in terms of producing it, gambling is nothing more than a game of probability which means a "possibility" and this is the reason why victory always happens by "chance". And if you still remain in such a wrong belief and mindset then obviously in the end as you said above that they will instead lead themselves to many dangers and disasters in life because instead of earning but they instead experience many losses and other problems.

If you're in the market for a new product or service, you'll want to make sure that you have a good understanding of what you're getting yourself into and what you're getting yourself into, so that you can make sure that you're getting the most out of it. Because remember that most gamblers who end up addicted to them are born from someone who basically has no idea about the bad effects that exist in gambling, usually they come because they are too tempted by the chances of winning which they think is easy to get.

By having a proper understanding of the bad possibilities and other risks that can occur in gambling then I believe you will be able to implement many precautions on gambling involvement, such as limiting expectations on winning, limiting the time of involvement and most importantly limiting the amount of budget allocation. I honestly can't say that being over the age of 18 means that you will be a good gambler or in a sense a safe zone gambler, because it is not uncommon that even those who are older have an impulsive approach to gambling that will only harm themselves, and as I said above, the point is that from the beginning you must really understand the basic concepts of gambling so that you gamble with caution and vigilance.

Yes it is and I think that is a common reason that most gamblers prefer to hide their gambling activities for that reason or because of the ban on gambling in their country, and the idea of hiding their gambling activities can avoid them from the bad eyes of society and also avoid the punishment of the country that prohibits gambling. And it is also true as you said that another reason is that they do not want to experience or hear criticism from people in their neighborhood about their involvement in gambling which can be mentally and psychologically disturbing for the gambler and may also make it difficult for them to build social relationships with people around them. I understand the people you mentioned who are loved by the gambler and they are the gambler's family or maybe his wife, and the point is overall I think we can conclude that gambling has a negative viewpoint in the eyes of society which when you are known to gamble then yes there may be criticism and it will not only be experienced by you but your family may also be affected.