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741  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does casino streamers have influence in your gambling life? on: February 21, 2024, 07:06:49 PM
I came across on YouTube where a gambling casino social influencer was streaming about a casinos platform.
He literally brought out his phone and was illustrating to the audiences that it is just few steps to take the winning on your games which is making choice of your predictions, choose amount to bet and also indicate his hashtag referral code and click on confirm.
Immediately you get credited directly to your account that just you won.
I just smiled but I want to ask, how many of you guys develops interests on a particular casino platform due to the influence of the casinos streamers?

Nah, I don't think I can be influenced by any of this  social influencer on any social handle,because I see them as people who promote people's marketing business and all of that,so for this it's only promoting or supporting the casinos and bring more audience to them.
Most times they have been paid to promote such certain pages and they tend to beat the targets market.

But mind you,you don't have to fall victim to them because if you do so,as one who is trying to limits his gambling processes you will end up making a renewal process and that's it your at it again.sometimes as you keep watching you won't get know when you made such steps again.

Yes you are not too affected by the impressions they do because you already know that what influencers or stremers do is a promotion with the aim of attracting many customers, especially those who do not know at all that behind the impressions made by them there is a goal of promoting gambling sites that work with them through several agreements that have been agreed upon, On the other hand, if you look at the broadcasts they do honestly, it really looks very tempting, for stremer it is very easy to get a large amount of winnings and that's what makes most people interested, especially those who don't know about what the purpose of the broadcasts carried out by stremer, even though behind the scenes the casino has arranged all the systems to facilitate the victory of the stremer in the broadcast.

It is difficult to completely prohibit someone from avoiding and not being tempted by what they see because basically they do not know the real thing about what the purpose of what is done by the stremer, therefore it is very possible for novice gamblers to eventually become victims of what is done by the stremer.
742  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you won a bet with your last cash? on: February 21, 2024, 05:29:15 PM
Yes, of course, this happened to me a number of times already. This is not advisable to anybody of course but I think this is nothing new to gamblers. There are instances when you're left with nothing but your last money and instead of keeping that money for food or fare, you bet it. Sometimes it wins sometimes it loses, just like any normal bet.

But usually my last money isn't the money that's for my taxi, train, or bus fare. It's part of the money that's intended for my betting. That's the last part. It's fun to remember those times when your last money was actually the beginning of your recovery. Just as when you're ready to exit the casino, you're streak begins.

betting with our last money is usually full of hope. Sometimes we get surprises, sometimes we are disappointed with the results.
of course, it would be better to keep our money aside for expenses and limit the money for our games. Don't force a bet with your last money and decide to walk home when your last bet doesn't win.
maybe if we manage to win in the last bet, it will only prolong the game and not close it and let us withdraw the final winnings and then go home.

Yes it can be said like that, betting using the last money usually someone will put hope in that money or that means they expect that the money will increase by successfully getting a win, on the other hand I can't say that you will completely lose at the end of the session because winning will still be a possible thing if at that time you are really lucky or luck comes at the right time, but it is also very possible that in the end you lose in the sense that the amount of your last budget runs out without a remainder and of course you will feel disappointed in such a situation.

Honestly for myself I would never make such a decision especially when I only hold my last money, because all I think about is the possibility of losing which cannot be completely avoided from the name of betting activity. On the other hand, you are right that it is also possible that even if they manage to get a win to eventually play again because they feel they are getting an increase in the amount of money and maybe I would say that it is not a real win if you are basically unable to cash out as quickly as possible because obviously in the end there are many cases that have lost again due to greed for something bigger, the mistake is that they do not see that this is gambling where losing is a sure thing. Therefore, my advice is better to prevent than cure.
743  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When I'm emotional, I LOSS! on: February 21, 2024, 04:30:49 PM
when we get emotional in gambling we tend to increase the bet amount because we remember losing and want to make it back faster, but in the end we lose everything, currently I am holding back to be consistent with betting and not be in a hurry to win
Adding emotion to gambling will just add to your frustration because you will want to win by all means, and when you keep adding up games will only reduce your chances of winning because a places were you have selected about 20 games in sports gambling how do you win them all that will even make it impossible the more to even win. because all the attempts of trying to win will be lost because it is now desperacy and all you want to do is to win, and gambling does not work that way.  and when you keep playing with the mindset that you want to win then that is when you will continue to lose, the best thing be contented with your loss and play another day that is the easiest way to enjoy gambling.

But emotions are feelings that everyone has and that means that everyone must carry their emotions in gambling activities but maybe the difference is that there are some people who can control them and there are also some who cannot control their emotions at all, especially when the situation is losing which ultimately makes them take some actions out of control that are not based on common sense. You have also said the right thing which is that in the end they will end up in a tense situation which is a worse situation that will make them even more frustrated because obviously actions based on emotions usually always end up in a worse situation.

This is the danger when a gambler puts excessive expectations on winning because obviously in gambling there is not only a chance of winning but the possibility of losing is also the final result that we can never avoid because the risk of losing is part of gambling activities, the point and advice is that being a responsible gambler is much better, Because with that then you will have the ability to accept the fact of losing at the end of the session and you will also understand that gambling is about winning and losing and this is the reason why it is always recommended to gamble with only a small budget amount without putting excessive expectations on winning, fun should be prioritized over the idea of earning which will ultimately only make you experience a lot of financial problems.
744  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Know when to stop on: February 21, 2024, 03:57:38 PM

I think there are quite a lot of people who are victims or some gamblers come and are attracted to gambling because of something they see as very tempting, one of the scenarios is like seeing some impressions made by influencers or stremers who actually show something that is not in accordance with the actual facts, but yes on the other hand as you said that there are still many people who really don't know things like this, and I was once visited by someone I didn't really know or meant a distant friend who then said while recommending some sites that he thought could give him a lot of money, he wanted to borrow money from me to gamble, one of the things that made him so sure to borrow money because he saw that the stremers or influencers managed to get a big win that was very tantalizing to the eye, and honestly at that time I responded with a "laugh" Cheesy, in the end I was really able to save him from danger with some sensible advice and statements regarding the things that stremers or influencers do.

Good thing that you manage to convince him and not him to force you to lend him money, most of the time when a person already been drunk with his believe he doesn't care about the opinion of other people, he will push his way and will try to make things happen, people who really don't know and understand the power of those influencers in manipulating the outcome of their games.

They tend to be good and they display that with such samples of their winning journey, very appealing from those people who follows them and continue to watch them doing their trick.

Good for your friend that he listen else, he might create a reason for you to distant yourself as you will not going to lend him money for his gambling.

Yes at that time I tried as much as possible to convince my friend that what he saw was nothing more than a temptation that looked tempting but he would not find the same thing when he tried it himself, fortunately at that time my friend's situation was still in a normal situation or I mean he was in a good enough consciousness so that he could finally believe in some fairly reasonable ideas from me. but if he was in a drunken state like you said then maybe yes he would force me but still I would  never give him a way to realize his wishes by not giving him a loan at all, but maybe it was still possible to happen to finally believe in some fairly reasonable ideas from me, but if he was drunk like you said then maybe yes he would force me but still I would never give  him a way to realize his desire by not giving him a loan at all, but maybe it's still a thing that can happen to eventually try to do it to someone else or borrow from someone other than me.

True, what the stremers or influencers are doing does look quite natural and they are doing the views well and I think what they are doing is natural because their main purpose is to promote some sites so the influencers or stremers  are doing the views while creating an atmosphere that makes most viewers quite comfortable but without knowing that it is their marketing trick so that more people are interested and follow the way they do through the affiliate links that are shared.

For my friend honestly until now I still give him some advice and direction along with explaining that the winnings that the stremers or influencers get that look tantalizing are actually not real winnings, but nothing more because the casinos they promote have arranged everything behind the scenes and he also said that as long as he gambled he never got such good winnings that in the end he believed that what was done by influencers and stremers was nothing more than manipulation.

745  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is there any fun in losing while gambling on: February 20, 2024, 07:28:07 PM
I agree, whatever losses you experience in gambling will not bring any pleasure even if you have determined a low budget for gambling but your hopes of winning are not achieved, disappointment will accompany the feeling of losing funds in gambling, but never involve emotions in losses because you will bet again without control for the purpose of recovering losses, wise gamblers will not be careless in dealing with these sites because even though they have lost funds, they will return to gambling another day with a low budget, there is the potential that they can recover previous losses if they gamble while enjoying playing betting.
I do not think that things are that straightforward, there are many gamblers that despite keeping a close track on the amount of money they are betting, they do not care too much about the losses they are suffering and instead they are just happy with the experience that gambling brings them, so they can enjoy themselves even when they are losing some money, which should not be that odd, as you need to spend some money if you want to entertain yourself these days.

It seems that your statement is directed at gamblers who have good responsibility in their gambling so that losing is not a very disappointing result, on the other hand I understand that losing or losing is a result that is not very liked by most people, But if you are involved in gambling then obviously you must first agree with yourself that you must be one of those gamblers who is able to accept the fact of losing at the end of the session because gambling is always about two things namely between winning or losing and responsible gamblers have a different formula from some other gamblers in that they have an approach to gambling that is based on a proper understanding of what gambling activities are.

They understand that gambling is a risky activity but they always focus on risk management such as imposing a lot of limits both in terms of time to gamble and also in terms of putting a budget amount, and when you have the right understanding of gambling then you will only dare to gamble by putting a small amount or an amount that you can afford to lose because responsible gamblers understand that it is too risky to make gambling as an income so what they are looking for there is nothing more than fun or entertainment when they have free time.
746  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you won a bet with your last cash? on: February 20, 2024, 06:47:20 PM
Although, I had more money on  my account that I can use for transporting my self back to my house if incase I lost the physical cash, that was why I wasn't afraid to stake with it.

As you already said, i cant also make a decision of gambling with my last card with the hope of winning from it when i have no alternative, that will just be a foolish behavior of me if i did so, but when am having the last card with me and i feels like am not obligated to using it on any specific purpose, then i can afford gambling with it, we just have to understand this, that the money we cant risk to loose, shouldn't be used for gambling.

Of course, gambling with the last money will only make the situation worse, I would never do it because it is possible that the risk can never be avoided completely and it is very likely that in the end the money will be lost and I will have no money left at all to make ends meet, so anyway your life is more important than anything and don't take it too seriously because there is no guarantee that you can win at the end of the session to increase your last money. However it is always advisable to gamble with money you can afford to lose, what I mean is don't put any expectations on winning because it will only make you disappointed when you lose at the end of the session, and that means you should only gamble when you have a separate savings fund to support all your living needs. I see OP is too reckless here, he seems to be betting his fate on luck and that is not recommended because it is too careless.
747  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Rich or poor gambler, who should risk more? on: February 20, 2024, 06:17:14 PM
Rich people can risk more but I don't think that it's a necessary thing for them to do anyway, there's no way that it's a good idea to risk more and it's a bad idea if a poor person that's already trying to make the ends meet risk more money than they should so there's really only one choice here. It's a hypothetical situation anyway so to everyone that didn't catch the drift here, make sure not to be too risky with your plays especially if you're putting a lot of money make it worth it and make sure that you still play for fun even if you've got a strong desire to win.

I think everyone knows that rich gamblers can put a much larger budget amount but something that I have in mind is that I'm not too sure they would actually do such an action or I mean gamble with a large budget or risk, one of the reasons is because rich people have a different perspective on money than poor people, they will only put a large budget amount on something that has the potential and guarantee to get a much bigger return, or what I mean is that rich people will only prioritize something that basically has certainty in terms of profit such as business or other things, and that means they will not want to put a large amount on gambling because after all there is absolutely no guarantee to actually be profitable at the end of the session. So rich people will take into account more from various sides before they really decide to put a large amount of budget and I would say that the intention and purpose of rich people gambling most of them just want to find entertainment when they have free time in the middle of their busy life.

But actually the idea of taking a large amount of risk should still be avoided whether you are a rich person or a poor person because obviously even if you are a rich person if you have an overly aggressive approach to gambling then it will still make you end up a poor person, so anyway taking a low risk according to your ability is more recommended because this is also for your own safety.
748  Other / Off-topic / Re: Having a regular/steady income is important as a gambler. on: February 20, 2024, 05:31:46 PM
That is good for you because at least, you gambled when you are at home while you are free. It is what you have done when you want to playing gambling as gambling is just part of our activities that does not  have to be used every day. We must have to avoid getting much problem from gambling while many people already have it and become addicted to gambling. I am sure that we do not want to be that one so we must be careful to use gambling for fun.
Gambling for fun is indeed a safe choice, but not everyone can do it. There are times when they are still greedy for chasing wins after earning more than their initial funds and that can be detrimental without them realizing it. The need to remain alert when things don't go as desired and stop when things can no longer be controlled.

Yes exactly, and one of the reasons is because it is not easy to ignore something that at first glance looks very tempting, there is no one of us who does not like the name of money and when you see the opportunity to get money then it is obviously very possible for anyone to do all the experiments to realize something that has always been in his mind. The need and desire factor makes a person rule out the possibility of losing, gambling is always about winning and losing but someone who comes with the intention of earning they will not be able to see the possibility of risk that can never be ruled out or avoided. Another thing is that you will not be able or you will find it difficult to ignore greed when you put hope and confidence in winning so this is the reason why a gambler acts greedily to get something bigger, and the fact is that it is not easy to stop in all situations whether it is winning or losing, because a gambler who has the intention of earning they will not have the ability especially to accept the fact of losing which in the end the situation will make them emotional and even more aggressive in running sessions with the aim of wanting to restore something that has been lost.
749  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When I'm emotional, I LOSS! on: February 20, 2024, 04:55:49 PM
Maybe what you mean is "if I get emotional then my losses can be bigger", because for the problem of losing it is a sure thing in gambling but increasing the number of losses is the result that you will experience when you cannot control your emotions and I think the inability to accept the fact of losing especially in large numbers is the problem here. So the truth is that you really need to change and justify your understanding of gambling, you must re-understand and reaffirm to yourself that gambling is a winning and losing activity, in the sense that you will always find one of the two results at the end of your gambling session.

On the other hand everyone doesn't like losing, but the point is if you don't like losing then isn't the solution to not touch gambling at all? Of course, because after all gambling is always about taking risks, you can only win when you are really lucky and on the other hand everyone will never know when they can be lucky because luck is always unknowable when it comes and when it goes which means if at the end of the session you lose it means you are unlucky. So as I said above that gambling is a win and lose activity, don't just be ready to win because I will call you a loser, but it is mandatory for all gamblers to be able to accept the fact of losing, and if you are still unable to be a responsible gambler in the sense of being able to accept defeat then it is better not to touch gambling at all.

The inability of gamblers to control their emotions in the game is something that usually happens to gamblers who have just started gambling. High curiosity about luck makes gamblers carry out more and more gambling activities.
what is happening is irresponsible gambling. I think this is almost the same as what novice gamblers experience. they don't have good control over their emotions when playing.
I have confidence that those who gamble understand the risks of gambling. they can win or lose. However, not all gamblers understand responsible gambling.

Yes, I understand that this is a common problem experienced by gamblers especially those newbies who have just come because they are still very ambitious to get big wins as they always think and imagine, and the inability to accept the reality of losing is the biggest problem for most gamblers because these are all indications for a much worse situation in the end, and it is a fact that it is very difficult to ignore emotions when someone who has a goal to earn but what they experience is losing.

The lack of understanding of the real facts about gambling makes them especially beginners gamble without bringing any preparation such as risk management for prevention, simply put they will only stop when they run out of all the money, and not only that, because sometimes even if they win I would not call it a real win because it is very possible for them to eventually apply greed to get a much larger amount of winnings. So the bottom line for gamblers who have absolutely no self-control and risk management whatsoever is that they will continue to end up losing sessions because not all greed always ends with the results you want, because it's not that easy to succeed in getting a lucky streak, the key is to know when to paddle and when to pull over.
750  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Escape Debt with Gambling: A Dangerous Cycle on: February 20, 2024, 04:23:09 PM
Yes because it is a fact that many gamblers end up stressed or depressed due to not being able to withstand all the tension and pressure in a problematic situation, the idea of paying off debt by gambling is a very careless or even stupid mindset and idea, because gambling is not a cure for financial problems, but rather an activity that provides nothing more than "odds" which means "the possibility" of getting something but without having any certainty to actually guarantee you can win at the end of the session. In the end, it is clear that overcoming financial problems with gambling will actually make someone worse or get into debt, or simply gambling can give you more problems. We must really have the right understanding about gambling, do not get the wrong understanding because it can be fatal in the end. So the point is not to let the chance of winning in gambling make you conclude that gambling can solve financial problems or can make you rich instantly, NO, that's a dangerous mindset, the uncertainty in the results at the end of the session will frustrate all your plans and will make you regret it.

Those thoughts are from gamblers who don't have the main orientation needed before venturing into their gambling journey. Most newbies ended up gamblers because a friend made some wins through gambling. I was once in that shoe, luckily, it didn't last for a long time till I retraced my ways. Gambling has no certain method of winning, hence, nobody is advised to take it to the level of borrowing money to wager in casino. The player if he wins, will still return the money back to the loan shark. Such things level up the stress of the gambler, and some still go ahead to gamble more, to be able to earn a sustainable amount that'll cover for both the debt and settle their financial responsibilities. Gamblers need to follow a nice method that'll remove those embarrassing mindsets from their memory and focus on being a good gambler that wagers to learn and earn when the time comes.

True, most of it is the mindset of a gambler who doesn't really know what gambling is really about, they are just floating in uncertainty, and usually they come because they see something that looks very tempting that is successfully obtained by others or including some of their friends who are already familiar with gambling. The fact is that seeing something that is very tempting can cloud your consciousness which in the end you rule out other aspects or possibilities that are actually much more important and should not be ignored such as possible risks and they will only continue to gamble by putting very high hopes and beliefs with the assumption that "I can get a win like everyone else", they don't know that it's not as easy as they think which in the end it is clear that slowly they will only experience problems with their finances.

Yes it is certainly a very bad idea to gamble with borrowed money, I think people who do this are those who are too confident in winning which actually your belief has absolutely no effect on the results at the end of the session, nothing else can lead you to victory other than you are lucky. So the real fact and the conclusion is that gambling with borrowed money will only get you further into debt because you will only rotate in the cycle of borrowing to gamble and gambling with the intention / aim of getting a win to pay off the debt, this will only make your debt even bigger because no luck comes in a row.
751  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you ever introduced an elder gambler to online betting? on: February 20, 2024, 03:48:08 PM

There is no doubt that the younger generation is better able to use technology than the younger generation. They are better able to understand current technology well and develop it into something useful for them. They can find more information than the older generation, especially since they are already used to using this technology, including using online casinos, which for the elderly is very difficult to use.

Elderly people have admitted that they have difficulty keeping up with technological developments. Even though there are people or younger generations who always help him, that doesn't mean elderly people are able to understand him. After all, elderly people are more comfortable using something they can actually feel and see than using something they cannot feel. So we don't need to introduce online casinos to them because of the difficulties they feel.

One of the reasons is because obviously the younger generation was born in an era full of progress and change and one of them may be in terms of technology which is a familiar thing that now everything looks easier in any case, for example in terms of learning or looking for knowledge because you can get it just by opening a cellphone connected to the internet and looking for it on some social media or reference sources such as Google or other platforms.

On the other hand I understand that the older generation was born earlier than the younger generation but the right reason is because the older generation was born earlier before the development of technology was as good as it is now so that when modern technology appeared they were already at a fairly senile age and as we know that someone who is already at the age of 60 - 70 years and over is very difficult to learn because on the other hand they also have problems with their memory which makes it difficult for them to digest and understand something they have learned before, And this is the reason why the older generation is very difficult to keep up with technological developments that are developing very quickly, one of which is like an online gambling platform which is mostly filled with many younger generations, this is too complicated to learn for them and therefore more of them choose to gamble in physical casinos because it is easy to adapt and can find many people to enliven the atmosphere.
752  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The person who can’t control emotions in gambling will never earn money from it on: February 20, 2024, 03:17:11 PM
Actually in any case excessive emotions can make a person end up in a much worse situation and not just in gambling problems, and especially if something like this happens in gambling and it is definitely a sure thing that you will eventually experience a greater number of losses or a worse situation. On the other hand I would not say that by controlling your emotions you will be able to earn or make money, because winning is another thing here.

Emotions and winning are different things, or what I mean is the benefits of someone who can control their emotions in gambling activities especially when in a losing situation then they will be able to slightly avoid the possibility of much worse and does not mean that by controlling emotions then you can win big or earn, nothing to do with it because for the problem of winning in gambling it generally always happens randomly and can never be known, so do not assume or conclude that by controlling yourself or emotions then you will win big, no because self-control or emotions lead to benefits for prevention and not increase the chances or percentage of winning.
753  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Know when to stop on: February 20, 2024, 02:35:40 PM

Big wins are like fuel for addiction and gambling urges, the more one sees people getting big wins, the more they want to gamble themselves. I have a relative who keeps watching gambling videos that people create by editing the outcomes and showing how much money they are making, he doesn't listen to us or understand that they are doing this only to earn referrals because he is promoting his referral link and luring people with those edited videos.

There are people who really can't understand that, they are drunk with the lust to follow those influencers who use their influence to bring people to the gambling house and earn referral bonus, or they are being paid for advertisement and they put good efforts to make things look likes easier to beat the house, it's tough to make that person realize that he just being tricked as per his own understanding everything is true and if luck permits he will manage to duplicate the outcome.

I think there are quite a lot of people who are victims or some gamblers come and are attracted to gambling because of something they see as very tempting, one of the scenarios is like seeing some impressions made by influencers or stremers who actually show something that is not in accordance with the actual facts, but yes on the other hand as you said that there are still many people who really don't know things like this, and I was once visited by someone I didn't really know or meant a distant friend who then said while recommending some sites that he thought could give him a lot of money, he wanted to borrow money from me to gamble, one of the things that made him so sure to borrow money because he saw that the stremers or influencers managed to get a big win that was very tantalizing to the eye, and honestly at that time I responded with a "laugh" Cheesy, in the end I was really able to save him from danger with some sensible advice and statements regarding the things that stremers or influencers do.
754  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Behavioral Change!!! on: February 20, 2024, 02:05:33 PM
What is the problem and what causes a person to be addicted is the lack of understanding of what gambling really is, they only underline that gambling is a place to change the fate in life by utilizing opportunities, but they do not understand that opportunities are just "possibilities" which means there is absolutely no certainty to become a reality and it will really happen when you are lucky.
Addiction is not always because of a lack of understanding. Sometimes, people who know that gambling is all about possibilities and luck and there are no guaranteed gains get addicted to it and the reason behind that is that they do it excessively, maybe not at the initial stage but later on when they have seen that they can win money from it but it's just not guaranteed but their minds keep telling them to try again, what if you win this time?

When they keep trying, again and again, to see if they can win something significant, this thing makes them addicted eventually, along with the fact that they might keep trying to recover their losses each time they gamble and we know what happens to those who try to recover their losses.

Yes I understand what you mean here which is that addiction is not always caused by a lack of understanding of what gambling really is, and the other reason you mentioned here that addiction can also be caused by someone who wants to continue to win to the point of overdoing it in terms of doing more experiments, I understand that and I think it still has something to do with "not having the right understanding" because wouldn't having the right and proper understanding of what gambling really is make them not do everything that is excessive to get a win? Of course, so the main point to the problem is the lack of understanding so that when they manage to get a win they instead try harder by all means in order to get a win like that again or in a bigger amount.

The object of victory in gambling is money and everyone needs money to fulfill their needs or buy something they want, meaning that wants and needs will never end while we are alive, and this is the reason why someone can get addicted to gambling, they want results that are always profitable to be able to fulfill their desires in life by putting aside aspects that are actually much more important and should not be ignored in gambling such as "possible risks".
755  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When I'm emotional, I LOSS! on: February 19, 2024, 03:35:57 PM
Maybe what you mean is "if I get emotional then my losses can be bigger", because for the problem of losing it is a sure thing in gambling but increasing the number of losses is the result that you will experience when you cannot control your emotions and I think the inability to accept the fact of losing especially in large numbers is the problem here. So the truth is that you really need to change and justify your understanding of gambling, you must re-understand and reaffirm to yourself that gambling is a winning and losing activity, in the sense that you will always find one of the two results at the end of your gambling session.

On the other hand everyone doesn't like losing, but the point is if you don't like losing then isn't the solution to not touch gambling at all? Of course, because after all gambling is always about taking risks, you can only win when you are really lucky and on the other hand everyone will never know when they can be lucky because luck is always unknowable when it comes and when it goes which means if at the end of the session you lose it means you are unlucky. So as I said above that gambling is a win and lose activity, don't just be ready to win because I will call you a loser, but it is mandatory for all gamblers to be able to accept the fact of losing, and if you are still unable to be a responsible gambler in the sense of being able to accept defeat then it is better not to touch gambling at all.
756  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Escape Debt with Gambling: A Dangerous Cycle on: February 19, 2024, 02:58:20 PM
Escaping dept with the hope to win gamble is disastrous and might leed to a big problems because you don't have the power on your own to make it win and when they lose you have pay back the dept you are in. You rather pay the little you have than to gamble with it while thinking to win when you gamble. As you manage to win you the money you won might not be able to pay for the dept and this situation might put you on a bigger dept which means you can not be able to home out easily. Gamble to pay dept will only make you gamble on pressure as your mind won't be settled to gamble with mind free.

Those pressures only make the gambler to end up in pains, like the person in Op's story. Those thoughts are quite not good for anyone, especially in things as gambling. I've seen many other gamblers who end up being in a severe sickness for not being able to meet up with their debts, accumulated for the sake of gambling. However, gambling is a game for players who care about being financially stable, not for people who want to terminate their existing financial status for a wealth which they are foreseeing. When the debt is too much to clear, the person ends up depressed and get more addicted into gambling hoping that the wins appear someday.

Yes because it is a fact that many gamblers end up stressed or depressed due to not being able to withstand all the tension and pressure in a problematic situation, the idea of paying off debt by gambling is a very careless or even stupid mindset and idea, because gambling is not a cure for financial problems, but rather an activity that provides nothing more than "odds" which means "the possibility" of getting something but without having any certainty to actually guarantee you can win at the end of the session. In the end, it is clear that overcoming financial problems with gambling will actually make someone worse or get into debt, or simply gambling can give you more problems. We must really have the right understanding about gambling, do not get the wrong understanding because it can be fatal in the end. So the point is not to let the chance of winning in gambling make you conclude that gambling can solve financial problems or can make you rich instantly, NO, that's a dangerous mindset, the uncertainty in the results at the end of the session will frustrate all your plans and will make you regret it.
757  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: gambling for fun vs gambling for the financial benefit. on: February 19, 2024, 02:38:52 PM
People can never enjoy financial benefits from gambling. It can be fun if you bet with your friends all of a sudden but when you bet with a lot of money and do it regularly it becomes no fun anymore. Those who get idea about gambling gamble for fun in the initial stage and when they win gambling they gamble regularly and become addicted. There are also people who want to become financially independent from gambling, which makes them gamble regularly, which may be a mistake for them because gambling can never become financially independent.

Exactly, everything is very likely to change over time, no matter if you have the goal of gambling for entertainment or pleasure because in the end it is very possible for you to really no longer be able to feel pleasure and entertainment, pleasure will turn into tension and some pressure when your interest in gambling increases. Many gamblers experience this scenario where over time they experience a change in mindset and perspective, on the other hand one of the reasons is because there are so many things that look tempting in gambling, not everyone can ignore this kind of temptation and most of them fall into it and experience changes slowly and unconsciously. The mindset of gambling for fun can change to gambling to earn, everyone needs money and when they manage to get a tidy sum of winnings then that's where the perspective and mindset can change which is possible for you to eventually consider that gambling "can be more profitable". This is why we really need to apply firmness to our inner consciousness, if for no other reason than to prevent such changes.
758  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What You will do in this situation? on: February 19, 2024, 02:17:01 PM
There is no unique strategy in gambling that one can use to make money. In gambling, you can either win or lose based on your luck, nothing else can have any influence on the results of your gambling as long as you are playing gambling games, if you are playing skill-based games or engaging in sports betting, that's a different thing, but if it's about gambling games, there is no way you can use a certain strategy and maximize your winnings in casino games.

So, a wise person knowing all these facts and realities about gambling would never consider gambling a source of income because they would know that there is no guarantee that one can win at every single session. After all, you can't be lucky all the time.
Usually when it has to do with casino games, slots, dog race and the rest of them, you can be rest assured that you are playing based on luck as you can hardly play any of these games and think that you have got the best strategy and that's what will really help you to be the best or be at advantage to be winning more games.

Gambling on sports game could some how be a bit better and considerable if you are using a strategy because it's very possible that at some point some teams get better than that other and applying strategy to getting these teams work usually come through because you are using the best a d suitable strategy a d then the dependency on luck is reduced and minimal and not very much like that of the casino games which the house have built already to keep the house at more advantage than the players.

I think everyone should agree that this type of gambling is like a click, scroll or slide game until you find the answer between winning or losing like slots then obviously all of that is a game that depends on how lucky you are in running the session, I heard that there are some people who believe too much in strategies or patterns that are rumored to bring you victory but I will say that it's all nonsense, I've tried it several times and still no good results or wins but when I play carelessly it turns out to win, and that means there is absolutely no way that you can use it to bring you to victory unless you are really lucky, nothing more than that.

Sports betting is another thing, although it is still based on the same gambling but there are some things that distinguish it from gambling types such as slot machines or dice, in sports betting it is mandatory to have and apply skills if you have them, because by using strategic analysis of the skills and knowledge you have then obviously you will be able to get closer to the possibility of winning, one of the differences is because in sports betting there is a track record of a team that you can use as a benchmark and consideration for making decisions, simply put sports betting is like combining skills with your luck.
759  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you ever introduced an elder gambler to online betting? on: February 19, 2024, 01:55:14 PM

As for me, I wouldn't engage in doing so, I will rather vested my efforts on the young adults whom I know will be able to afford making gambling with their whole energy and vibes, take risk and take responsibility for every of their performance, as for the adult ones, I will I stead get them a game to use and be playing instead of online gambling, how can they cope with the betting strategies and the financial demands involved, some can't even read the screen on a device because of old age, which makes it not a good idea to me.
It is absolutely right that adults can understand things easily, in the case of elderly people it is delayed in old age they are quite disabled, they will not be able to understand betting strategies easily. Knowing the basic rules will prevent damage and increase your enjoyment of the game. For example, if you introduce older people it will be very difficult for them to know when to hit stand split or double down. Adults can control everything more easily than older people.

I agree you would be doing them more harm than benefit by introducing them to gambling.I would not do it unless in a very specific case like I saw some neighbor of mine do it.He never used to introduce elderly people to gambling except one case of one such person living alone and getting quite a bunch of money every month from his sons living abroad.He used to get bored and since he started passing time with gambling we don't see him sad anymore,he even looks more vivid and enjoying life more now at his age.

Exactly, the idea of recommending someone to get involved in gambling is not advisable, especially if the scenario is that you are introducing gambling to the elderly, no matter what your intentions are, and more often I see that someone recommends gambling to others when they manage to win a large enough win so that they think of bragging about it to others along with recommending the gambling situation that gave them the win, And this applies to fellow gamblers or those who are completely unaware of gambling, logically everyone needs money and when you are the one who gets the recommendation then it becomes possible for you to be tempted and try it without considering first from various aspects especially the negative possibilities, and as you said that in the end it is a fact that gambling is not profitable but instead leads them to a worse situation in life.

Especially if you are recommending to the elderly, for financial problems, it may be possible to have a scenario or case like you said where the elderly live alone but have monthly remittances from their children who work, but I don't think this will be fully beneficial to make them really feel comforted, maybe this only applies in the short term, and I think it is unethical if in the end the elderly spend their old age with a lot of anxiety and pressure as a result of gambling.
760  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Don't make use of what you disliked because you can't stay away from it. on: February 19, 2024, 10:57:35 AM

I don't fully understand your question, you gambled won and withdraw the money from the account? And now you would just like to close that empty account to not be tempted to gamble again? So it's some kind of exclusion from the casino? I can understand the casino that they don't want to close your account so quickly after opening it. If it's written in the terms and conditions of the casino then there is nothing you can do about it. But why not just wait the 90 days and then ask again to close the account? As long as you don't have any money on the account you shouldn't worry about it. Another way is to change the password in a long phrase that you can't remember and don't save it in the browser. Like that you won't be able to ever login to the account.
In my opinion, in order to no longer be tempted by gambling, we have to be able to find activities that are not related to gambling activities, but this is not an easy thing for us to do. If we still want to gamble, we have to fight the urge to gamble by continuing to do activities that are not related to gambling. gambling and we also have to avoid environments where there are gambling activities, I am very sure that you can get rid of the desire to gamble slowly.

Distracting yourself from other things is recommended because this can degrade or reduce your interest in gambling, but on the other hand, I understand that it cannot be that easy to do so, and the reason is because there are so many things that look tempting in gambling that can make it difficult for us to completely ignore this activity. On the other hand you have said and told one of the keys, which is that quitting gambling activities really requires willingness and openness from yourself and you have to really make sure that you have strong intentions and determination to quit, because I see many of those who say they want to quit but it turns out that it's all just nonsense or means they don't take any action to encourage their desire for change. And this means that we must really have or put firmness in our determination and willingness to stop along with taking some actions that can help us get out of gambling, as you said, namely by avoiding environments that smell of gambling, or that means avoiding some friends who like to gamble or other things that have the potential to make you curious about gambling again, this will not be too difficult to do if you really have strong intentions and determination.
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