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1101  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you care about what people say about you gambling? on: January 18, 2024, 10:11:12 PM
When we don't care about what people say about us as a gambler, we would also know that some people might be right about us and may be trying to help us out especially our family members trying to make us stay away from gambling to reduce our gambling addictions.
Thinking about this point specifically, it gives us a good reason to not completely ignore other people's opinions about our gambling habits. If we are going too far with our bets and losing money we shouldn't be losing, people around are probably willing to help through advices. In case we don't care about what they are telling, says more about the addicted gambler himself than the people who are advising him, as it's also a serious symptom presented by addicted individuals. They think to be right all the time and don't accept the fact they are suffering from an addiction.

And this is the benefit of having a clear and reasonable mind so that we can distinguish everything that comes to us, people can do this, or I mean they can distinguish what is right and what is wrong but not everyone can admit that the actions they do are wrong and people say the truth about themselves. Not all gamblers realize that they have gone too far in their gambling involvement but for the problem of impact I think at least they must feel it like losing balance in finances.

But they can realize this if they can take a little time to meditate and really examine themselves about whether what they  are doing is benefiting them or making them miserable and in a lot of trouble. But the fact is as you said that a gambling addict always looks for reasons that they think make sense to justify something that is basically wrong, and this is what makes it difficult for people to advise a gambling addict, they are selfish even though they are wrong, all because of the level of belief and confidence about something they do.
1102  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never gamble in front of your kids. on: January 18, 2024, 09:51:59 PM
I think this is true when our kids grow up to the point where they understand what is gambling,at that point we should not gamble in front of them.Right now though I gamble and sometimes my daughter comes to see me,I tell her that this is the carrot and this the fish game as I play Rabbit Garden and Big Bass slots from Pragmatic most of the time.She thinks it is a game with fishes and rabbits and laughs at me,of course she is just over 3 years old and keeps smiling,she thinks I am working on the computer when she sees me.I tell her dad is doing a little game because it is needed for work as she with her innocence smiles at me,I don't think is harmful for now.

Yes it is true, there is a time when children can understand about everything they see and this can be one of the reasons why we should always keep our gambling activities a secret from them and even from when they are very young, the sooner the better because after all, all parents do not want their children to be involved in something wrong even though the parents are basically doing it too. From the case you presented about your child asking what you were doing I think your answer is quite good and well-reasoned.

But on the other hand I hope you stay alert and careful with your gambling activities, I mean keep your gambling activities away from your children's environment by trying not to gamble first if you are close to their position because if they see something like that or gambling that you do several times then I think it is very likely to develop their curiosity about what exactly you are doing with the game.
1103  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think gambling every day is better? on: January 18, 2024, 09:15:07 PM
I don't really see anything bad in gambling every day if you really have good games to gamble on and have the money. I did not see any differences between someone who gambles every day and someone who gambles once a week or month; if you will lose, you will surely lose, and if you win, you will surely win, so let's just know that gambling is about luck. But many people are thinking that when you gamble weekly or monthly, you may waste much money, but that is all a lie. Those who waste much money on gambling will surely be using a large amount of money to gamble.

There isn’t anything bad if one decides to gamble everyday. There is actually nothing to it if the individual has the money to comfortably play irrespective of the outcome of such bets.
But there is an obvious difference between someone who gambles everyday and one who visits the casino twice in a month. The person who visits the casino twice a monthly would have monies saved that would have otherwise, been lost when gambling.

The OP talked about a friends theory about playing everyday so as to draw closer the day he gets lucky. That is a flawed theory.

Are you unaware or even unaware that gambling is an activity that can be stimulating? We are humans who have feelings, for example when you find a woman and build a good relationship with her and if we interact with her too often by spending a lot of time together then isn't it very possible for us to feel aroused and end up having feelings for her because of comfort? It is clear that this scenario can also occur when you are too close to gambling activities by gambling every day. For problems in love, maybe over time you will feel happy, but if we talk about gambling, it is clear that the situation will reverse, where you will actually get worse. with many bad impacts because after all this is a risky activity.

It doesn't matter if you have a pretty good approach to gambling because you can't always predict what's going to happen in the future, I think that some of the events that have been experienced by many people who are addicted especially in terms of bad effects are already strong evidence and also a pretty good reason why we shouldn't overdo gambling which is one of them by gambling every day. On the other hand gambling has absolutely no certainty for the end result, you will be in a situation of winning or losing, winning always depends on how lucky you are at that time, and maybe you also know that "luck doesn't come every day" so what will happen is that the amount of loss will be even greater if calculated, this is an idea that is not recommended at all.
1104  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling can be a hope restorer if we go about it wisely! on: January 18, 2024, 08:22:39 PM
From his voice he seems like one whose lost hope has been restored by that single win. Gambling can be a life saver too for it's not as bad as non-gamblers portrays it. To all gamblers' when you get lucky make good use of your gambling win do not chase for double portion.
Only a very little number of gamblers gain from the hopes that they have from making money in gambling. The rest just have some kind of false hope from gambling that has been keeping them gambling since hoping to score a very big win some day. This hope kept alive from the testimonies of other gamblers who they hear were able to win big. Everyone is in search of something to give them hope, gambling should not be what you put all your hopes on, you have to create other opportunities for yourself.

Obviously, that's because gambling is not a place to earn so when gamblers put their hopes on winning, the results are more in line with what they want, and that means they experience a lot of losses because obviously if a gambler puts excessive hopes on winning then usually the number of tries they make will also be more than gamblers who are not too focused on winning and only prioritize entertainment.

In my opinion, one of the reasons why they put excessive hopes on gambling is because they misunderstand the meaning and response to gambling activities, they think it is easy to get when in fact the assumptions and mindset arise because they see a lot of things that look tempting which are actually nothing more than traps so that they fall deeper, After that comes the belief along with putting hope in a victory, and yes as you said, especially if they see or hear a big win that was successfully obtained by someone else or even one of their friends then obviously it is like a big motivation for them to continue to be excited. On the other hand, this is the scenario of a gambler who starts to enter the addiction phase.
1105  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: January 18, 2024, 08:03:27 PM
Become addicted in something, is dangerous whatever it is gambling or drug or something else. Such kind of people don't hesitate to involve with any crime like stealing money, kidnapping people, selling their apartment.
There are addicted gamblers that are hyper active but not coming to this point of their lives that they're going to do most of what you've said. But, it just so happens that many of them actually do it and that's the scary part of being addicted on anything. You are going to anything that you can so that you'll be able to continue to gamble without thinking on what you might have stomped on. It's either your family, colleague, your assets or anything that's precious to you. When you get to that point that you're even willing to sell your soul so that you can gamble, that's the scariest part from these addicts. And you are right that anything that's addictive or addicted to something they like doing, they will do nasty things.

Of course, addiction has its own level, there are those who are still stagnant in bets that are not too big but they do it very often and there are also those who have entered a high level which means that their level of addiction is chronic and they will not find it difficult to make things out of control as an alternative such as stealing or other crimes just to finance their gambling activities, And it is true that this is the scary thing about gambling addiction, not only the visible bad effects but they will also experience enormous mental and psychological pressure, and the proof is that it is not uncommon for us to see people who even go crazy or commit suicide because they are not strong with the mental and psychological pressure they feel, especially when they have entered the level of chronic addiction.

Basically anything that is done excessively is always not good, therefore from now on we must be able to resolve what is wrong with us regarding the gambling activities that we do, there is absolutely no prohibition for anyone from gambling as long as you can control it. everything is good like imposing many restrictions because this is the only thing that can help us.

Yes. Some of the main things I’d pay attention to if I suspected of being addicted to gambling are like this:
- do I do other activities? Do I talk to people about other things besides gambling?
- is gambling getting in front of other important activities in my life?
- how long can I stay without gambling?
- staying without gambling gives me anxiety?
- do I dream about gambling (winning or losing)?

Many others of course but this looks like a good place to start

Sometimes I also think in that direction, like questioning myself with some of the points that you said one of them and the answer can change over time and usually only ask questions like that when I am overcome by emotions in one of the sessions that I do, it usually happens when I am experiencing other problems in the real world and instead vent it on gambling which in the end obviously everything is even worse which as a result the situation is out of control.

On the other hand I think few people ask themselves this question even those who are already addicted feel that they are fine in the sense that they do not suffer from addiction when in fact they have excessive involvement behavior like addicts, such people are aware that they are experiencing one of the problems as a result of their gambling such as losing balance in finances but they do not realize that it is due to their gambling with the wrong approach. The other thing is that if a gambler really experiences some of the points you mentioned then it can be clearly concluded that they have entered the addiction phase consciously or unconsciously.
1106  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: January 18, 2024, 07:43:21 PM

Of course, there is nothing more important in gambling than having good self-control because only this can keep you safe and a little avoid the name of significant defeat. The fact is that in gambling you can't do anything to make you win because it's a matter of luck and what you can do is nothing more than applying self-control along with some other precautions to minimize the level of risk.

But unfortunately most gamblers cannot do this because their main focus is only on winning in the sense that they always have to overdo it to chase victory, when in fact victory does not have to be chased because simply put if you are lucky you will also be able to win and the idea of doing a lot of experiments to chase victory is a bad idea that will make you even experience a lot of losses, the point is that you must understand how gambling works along with how victory comes because with that I think you will not dare to overdo it.
Once you do lose this control then it would be over and this is something that you should really be that mindful on the time that you would really be engaging with gambling on which playing in moderation and in control on which this is the key for you not to make yourself that ended up on disaster or being that addicted. Just like on that topic in regarding about being successful with gambling,
then we do know that the odds or chances for it to happen would really be that low and this is why some gamblers do really like to reach out this particular state on which they could really be able
to make constant winnings in gambling on which we know that it is hard and mostly that nearly too impossible. This is why it would be always best that you should
really be that realistic on whatever things that you do see about on gambling.

Therefore we must set limits from now on along with putting firmness on the implementation, don't be too late because if you are drawn then I think it is unlikely for you to be able to achieve the realization to be able to do or apply self-control and limits that can keep you safe and comfortable, however as I said that this is the only way we can stay awake and avoid the possibility of great risks that can occur at any time.

After all gambling is a hit and miss activity, simply put if you are lucky then you will win and if not then obviously you will end up losing, and on the other hand it is impossible for humans to know when they will be lucky, therefore I think there is nothing better to do than to take a lot of precautions, as I said above that victory will come naturally if you are lucky, and also another reason why you should focus more on precautions is because there is absolutely no certainty and guarantee of anything in gambling, everything there is random.
1107  Other / Off-topic / Re: Keeping your gambling habit a secret. on: January 18, 2024, 07:13:52 PM
Gambling also has points worth sharing, in addition to its stimulating properties, it also includes many lessons and when we go through such levels, in fact, sharing with someone is also something to express your feelings and feel more comfortable. And in a society with people of the same age who are very open-minded and who have early access to the internet, sharing gambling habits is not something but important who that person will be, a friend who listens is different from someone who gossips and talks a lot, this garden should only allow a few people to interact
Perhaps sharing stories with other people close to us makes us feel relieved and comfortable, especially when we experience a previous losing streak, which can affect our emotions. By sharing stories, we can gain peace because the people who listen to our stories can provide reasonable advice so that we learn to control ourselves better. But if we still want to keep our gambling activities a secret, that's no problem because as long as we can control ourselves well, we will be able to enjoy gambling games. I also often hide my gambling activities from other people, but I don't feel it's a secret because I want to gamble quietly without anyone knowing. And even though I'm still learning to control myself, I still try to gamble moderately and not excessively.

Yes and that is one of the advantages of socialization in gambling, sometimes things like this do not only apply in gambling but in real life too such as when you experience some problems and any problems whether it is the world of work or even more often is about romance then usually you will look for someone who can listen to the problems you are experiencing with the aim of getting at least some solutions that can be considered  and it is true that this will be quite useful if we apply to gambling problems which as you say when we are experiencing a defeat that is quite painful, because of course sharing stories or experiences with others will be able to make us feel more comfortable and calm.

And yes as you said if indeed we have  a good approach in the sense that it can still make us safe and comfortable in gambling then I think socialization is not really needed, and maybe you will only feel a little boredom situation with the gambling you do. So the point is in this  matter I think we cannot completely rule out socialization activities in gambling because of the fact as we discussed above that this is indeed needed especially when we experience problems in gambling.
1108  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Social aspects of online gambling on: January 18, 2024, 06:38:17 PM
I think the social aspect of online gambling can't match that of offline gambling. The bond or the experience with other people can't be sufficiently provided in online gambling platforms. Perhaps it would only be activated if the other gamblers in your table are friends or if you are familiar with each other like when a poker game is composed of users from this forum. If they are not friends or familiar persons, you would even seldom contribute a response.

Right, there is a very significant difference if we look in terms of the socialization relationship, of course and I think this is the obvious difference between physical and online casinos, which if you gamble in a physical casino then obviously you will meet a lot of other visitors who certainly have a lot of time and opportunity to socialize by exchanging stories or various experiences in the world of gambling maybe which will certainly be able to increase the bond in terms of relationships.

So of course as you said that socialization in online casinos will not be able to match physical casinos because after all the services and situations are different, online gambling is more specifically for people who don't want to bother leaving the house to gamble like most people do when gambling in physical casinos, on the other hand I honestly never found out about how to connect with other people or even my own friends in online gambling, but maybe this is a good idea to develop.
1109  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you pay attention on other people bet and it amount, and does it affect you? on: January 18, 2024, 06:10:24 PM
For me of course it affects my betting mentality. I would definitely feel inferior if someone next to me bet bigger than me.
Sometimes it makes me hesitate to bet, in the end I just watch first until I can really decide to bet. But of course I won't go crazy all in to equalize my betting amount.
I will continue to use my funds according to what I planned at the beginning before playing.

I think it's normal for you to be influenced by what you see other people doing, no matter what the situation is you are gambling with other people or your friends with the same position and close together, I'm sure that at least there will be your feelings to follow the amount of large bets he did this is a natural feeling that humans have, and the rest is depending on how he can control himself, whether he will decide to follow him in the sense of being influenced or stay firm on the planning and approach he has in gambling.

I think the better way is that there is no other way than you prefer to stay firm on your own decisions and confidence, do not follow the large amount of bets made by others, after all they do not guarantee you to win if you follow the way they do, in the sense that in gambling whatever happens at the end of the session then it is entirely the responsibility of each gambler who experiences it, and with that means you better gamble with decisions on your own abilities in the sense of not overdoing it and not going out of your limits.
1110  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Know when to stop on: January 18, 2024, 05:50:03 PM
One of the most important factor of a successful gambler is to know when to stop, most gamblers expecially the addictive type don't even know what is stop when it comes to gambling. So it's very important to;
* Stop when your losing is now getting to you.

* Stop when you are now feeling as is you can't do without gambling.

* Stop when you have a big winning, by channeling the money somewhere else so you won't lose it back to gambling.

* Stop when you are not even winning at all, it's not your thing.

* When your losing is weighing you down, stop and restrategize .
It is easy to say to "stop" gambling when you are losing, but in reality, it's not. People only stops when they no longer have any money/funds left to gamble. So instead of focusing on losses, the best thing to do is allocate/deposit a fixed amount of money, and use that money to gamble as much as you can. Don't think about the profits. Just gamble for fun and consider the profits as an "extra" reward that you can keep for yourself or use it to gamble more and have fun. If you are worried about profit, then once you reach a certain level, take the profit and either continue with the initial funds or just leave.

Simply put "easy to say but hard to do", the fact is that it will not be easy to make ourselves resist curiosity when there is something you expect from gambling, and on the other hand of course as you said and it is true that it is more likely that they will stop when they run out of money in one of the sessions they do, But sometimes the problem will not end here because there are other things that they can use or they make alternatives when situations like this such as "borrowing" of course I think most gamblers who always have difficulty stopping in a session will definitely take advantage of this alternative to continue gambling again.

This is a new step that is worse, the potential for disaster will be much greater because it is very clear that another impact that will occur next is "getting into debt" which usually in the end makes them experience stress because they are not strong with the pressure that exists  in such situations. On the other hand, the best thing is that we should treat gambling as an entertainment activity, think of it as a playground, don't focus on winning and don't put any expectations because there are possible risks that will continue to follow you. You must understand that gambling is a game of probability  that has absolutely no certainty whatsoever and that is the reason that only luck can lead you to a winning situation, on the other hand the fact is that "hope" is always the starting point for someone to end up with addiction.
1111  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Another question? Tell me your average amount per bet and your monthly income? on: January 17, 2024, 09:42:05 PM
~snip~
This is thinking of safety first, all you have to do is not to gamble when results aren't positive and at the same time, you just don't feel you wanna gamble when you don't have money. Don't let the urge wants you to gamble when you don't have money, that's the first rule that anyone can set and that is not to gamble when you have no money, a very simple logic and rule.
That means we have to practice self-control continuously so that we can say no to ourselves and will not have the desire to gamble. If we lose self-control, we have seen the consequences, so we don't need to experience it again. The lessons we learned in the past can help us to prevent many losses.
Self-control is very important for gamblers, because if we can't control ourselves we will of course continue to follow the feeling of wanting to gamble from time to time, we won't be able to control it well and even look for money in any way to continue financing gambling without having to worry about getting money from borrowing. or committing criminal acts, people who cannot control themselves will usually develop the bad habit of frequently gambling and eventually become addicted to gambling.

As a gambler, you must be able to prevent losses and lose a lot of money, always learn from defeats and failures that occur from gambling itself so that you can control yourself from reckless and irresponsible gambling.

True I agree to that, there is nothing more advisable in gambling that however you have to apply good self-control in the gambling activities you do, set limits and emphasize awareness, sometimes people who already have a plan or who have applied limits are not infrequently of them forgetting this due to emotions that dominate so of course what they will do is follow their lust and curiosity so that out of control actions occur such as increasing the amount of bets one of them.

Basically, there are many things we can learn as lessons from gambling, especially excessive involvement, I'm sure anyone doesn't like losing money so from now on to emphasize and apply limits and self-control, don't focus too much on winning, after all you will be able to win if you are lucky and everyone has their own lucky time.
1112  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I could have won bigger. on: January 17, 2024, 09:05:14 PM
If gambling is not about winning and losing or if there is only a chance of winning and there is absolutely no possibility of risk occurring then obviously there is no problem if you want to borrow money to gamble, but obviously as you said about what if we lose? of course it will be very difficult to feel okay when you are in a situation like that, which is why it is always not recommended to gamble using borrowed money, you will get a lot of pressure and problems from the gambling you do and also from the money you borrow.

So obviously we should emphasize a proper understanding of gambling and also maintain awareness, I think with that you will not be rash in making every decision, you will be more able to consider everything with a precaution for the sake of financial balance.
Even those that had a method to become profitable gamblers cannot afford to ask for a loan to gamble, and that is because even they cannot be sure they are going to win the next bet as they are still relying on things going their way in order to get a win, and when that is the case people need to avoid at all costs to ask for a loan, as if they do and they lose now they will have to pay that money back with interests or fail to pay a friend or a family member on time, something that can strain your relationship really fast.
I agree that if you can't pay back the money on time it not only destroys the family relationship but sometimes it creates chaos in the society. Without borrowing money, you have to bet according to your ability. Even if you win big, you will have no trouble to repay the money. And gambling is nothing but foolishness like borrowing money because no one can guarantee winning here. If luck is not good there are more losses than wins. Identifying which games have the best odds at which casino can be challenging. Having all the details can be crucial if looking for the best options.

Of course that's true, if you basically use borrowing as an alternative to getting money to fund the gambling that you do then obviously there will be new potential problems that will befall you, the question is what if at that time you lose? of course the money borrowed will run out and you will be confused about how to return it or pay it and of course this will be a new problem that you will experience, besides you will have a bad image in the eyes of others because you cannot pay debts you will also feel unusual pressure and your life will never be calm.

Another thing is that gambling has absolutely no certainty and no guarantee of winning at the end of the session, this activity is nothing more than winning and losing, meaning you can win and you are also very likely to lose, so it is ridiculous if you are desperate to borrow money just for the sake of something uncertain. I understand there is a chance of winning in gambling but it is nothing more than a chance in the sense that there is absolutely no certainty of getting it unless you are really lucky.
1113  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: January 17, 2024, 08:14:20 PM

I thought that Bayern Munich would eventually overtake Leverkusen, but after seeing the performance of all the Leverkusen players, I became more confident that Xabi team could compete to defend the title until the end of the season.

I think everyone must also be surprised by what Leverkusen are doing in defending the top spot, and yes I'm with you, initially I never thought that Leverkusen would be able to go this far in defending the top spot because after all they were a mid-table team a few seasons ago and I really never found any indication of what they were going to do this season, and it turns out that their transformation is really surprising, and their performance last season was also a shadow and made us think at first that they would not be able to be that strong to defend the top, but it turns out that they can prove it so far.

We can see that Bayern Munich are very troubled to catch up with their points in second place in the standings, although the difference is not too far away but it is very difficult to catch up if basically Leverkusen can always secure every match they pass by winning three full points or even a draw. With Leverkusen's achievements so far, it is only natural if we think that it looks like they will really be able to break the dominance of Bayern Munich, but this is still a prediction and does not rule out the possibility that Leverkusen could end up like Dortmund last season. Smiley
1114  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling can be a hope restorer if we go about it wisely! on: January 17, 2024, 07:50:51 PM
Thank you for reminding us all to be responsible gamblers as well as wise in terms of allocating the winning money if they do manage to win. However allocating money from gambling winnings to some other more useful things is indeed a very good idea, anyone can do this because every gambler must have their own luck to get a win and it is a choice whether you can humble greed not to put the winnings back on gambling and prefer to put it on something more useful as the OP said that the person he found preferred to buy a new bus as a means of business or not.

I understand that it is not easy to do this, but I think you make it easy if you have a proper understanding of gambling such as "gambling is a probability activity" with this I think you are less likely to apply greed for something bigger because you understand that this victory is generated because you are lucky, and on the other hand as we know that anyone will never know when he will be lucky. So of course allocating the winnings to something useful is a good idea rather than going back to gambling and regretting it all again.
1115  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers trickily claims they wins the bet while they never did. on: January 17, 2024, 07:20:46 PM
I still can't understand the reason for doing this, for someone to claim what is not, when you never win but decided to take it to your fellows that you did just to entice them, this alone is worth enough to remind us not to always believe in everything people are saying, some things might be lies, people can flatter stake and deceives, in gambling, we shouldn't engage it because we wanted to please others of what we are not, we are to focus ourselves on having fun in it and be sincere with every dealings we are making through it, after all, we owe no one accountable on how we gambles.

Yes that's right, I also don't understand what exactly their purpose is why they claim something they never actually got, I think one of the reasons that might be in their minds is that they want to be someone who is superior to others or some of their friends, but will your friends just believe what you say? No buddy, it's not that easy to believe in something if there is absolutely no evidence shown, and if you do provide real evidence that you really get a win then obviously it doesn't matter because those of us who see will also easily believe that you really managed to win.

But if you don't provide any evidence at all then obviously what your friends have in mind is just "all that nonsense", to be honest I've been in a situation like this where one of my gambling friends said that he managed to get a big win by only bringing very small capital, like he got $500 by only bringing $0 capital, 5, yes maybe I could have believed it because in gambling anything can happen if you are very lucky, but on the other hand he did not provide any evidence and at the same time even borrowed money from me to buy food, haha yes that's very ridiculous and with him borrowing money to alone it already proves that what he said was a lie. So the point is don't trust easily and just take it as the wind passes by and the other thing is I agree with your advice that we must be responsible gamblers for the gambling activities we do and focus on having fun.
1116  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: January 17, 2024, 07:01:51 PM
Become addicted in something, is dangerous whatever it is gambling or drug or something else. Such kind of people don't hesitate to involve with any crime like stealing money, kidnapping people, selling their apartment.
There are addicted gamblers that are hyper active but not coming to this point of their lives that they're going to do most of what you've said. But, it just so happens that many of them actually do it and that's the scary part of being addicted on anything. You are going to anything that you can so that you'll be able to continue to gamble without thinking on what you might have stomped on. It's either your family, colleague, your assets or anything that's precious to you. When you get to that point that you're even willing to sell your soul so that you can gamble, that's the scariest part from these addicts. And you are right that anything that's addictive or addicted to something they like doing, they will do nasty things.

Of course, addiction has its own level, there are those who are still stagnant in bets that are not too big but they do it very often and there are also those who have entered a high level which means that their level of addiction is chronic and they will not find it difficult to make things out of control as an alternative such as stealing or other crimes just to finance their gambling activities, And it is true that this is the scary thing about gambling addiction, not only the visible bad effects but they will also experience enormous mental and psychological pressure, and the proof is that it is not uncommon for us to see people who even go crazy or commit suicide because they are not strong with the mental and psychological pressure they feel, especially when they have entered the level of chronic addiction.

Basically anything that is done excessively is always not good, therefore from now on we must be able to resolve what is wrong with us regarding the gambling activities that we do, there is absolutely no prohibition for anyone from gambling as long as you can control it. everything is good like imposing many restrictions because this is the only thing that can help us.
1117  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Know when to ride and stop! on: January 17, 2024, 06:18:33 PM
the temptation to chase winning and getting more often traps gamblers. especially when on a winning streak, gamblers play continuously and even increase their bets to get more money or want to increase the excitement of the game.

for some time this was very normal, because i was like that several times, playing continuously and increasing the bets to increase the challenge and increase the excitement of the game. but if this is done continuously it is a risky thing because it could get someone used to playing aggressively and not being able to control themselves.

therefore, gambling must be controlled, there is no need to be aggressive in playing, even to the point of playing continuously and not knowing how to stop. someone must take into account their potential loss and ensure that their next actions do not end up causing a total loss.
When we are winning and we can't control the game we are playing, we will of course continue to raise the bet in the hope of winning bigger than what we have now, but very rarely do I see them win the game they are playing Most of the time I see them who keep increasing their bets when winning in a row then they will play greedily and most of the time I see them don't get any wins after they increase their bets.
By increasing the bet, of course there will be new challenges in the games we play, but it is very difficult for us to be able to control the games we are playing because we think we will be able to win even bigger from the games we play.
It is indeed a very important thing in betting to be able to control ourselves and not have to be too aggressive in the gambling we play and also if we have won it would be better for us to be able to enjoy the victory so that we don't miss out on the victory we have won.

Everyone has passions and emotions in themselves, emotions will usually work when you feel that something is not going according to what you want such as losing in one of the sessions they do which eventually this becomes the starting point and encouragement for most gamblers to act out of control such as increasing the number of bets with the aim of wanting to get a big win to replace the defeat in the previous time.

Of course, increasing the number of bets means that the risk they take will also be higher / bigger and for the problem of winning is still unknown, the victory you always expect is nothing more than a hallucination because you are too sure. Basically in gambling there is absolutely no prediction about the final result because the casino applies a random system for anyone involved in gambling, and obviously with that you can only win if you are lucky, so instead of continuing to think about winning you better focus on risk management because this is the best thing to do to minimize the number of your losses.
1118  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: January 17, 2024, 05:59:16 PM

Those who can control themselves in gambling are not called addictive gamblers. A responsible gambler is successful in gambling because they understand the risk factors and know all the ways in investing money. But addicted gamblers who do not know how to take care of themselves usually have more greed at work. After winning once bet again without understanding anything and then loses. But after successful gamblers win take a break and then move on gambling addiction to gambling can never be productive as it leads to more losses.
Controlling oneself is a crucial part of gaming since it helps us to stay healthy as gamblers not gambling too excessively. The wise gambling would always bear their loses when they make mistakes that led to loses or when there luck is not sufficient to give them a winning. This is why we need to be exercise patience as gamblers. That is the only way we can survive the market and not have any problem with ourselves. When we can take proper control of ourselves as gamblers especially during decision making, we could likely become  addicted gamblers when we put in too much pressure and efforts to win.

Of course, there is nothing more important in gambling than having good self-control because only this can keep you safe and a little avoid the name of significant defeat. The fact is that in gambling you can't do anything to make you win because it's a matter of luck and what you can do is nothing more than applying self-control along with some other precautions to minimize the level of risk.

But unfortunately most gamblers cannot do this because their main focus is only on winning in the sense that they always have to overdo it to chase victory, when in fact victory does not have to be chased because simply put if you are lucky you will also be able to win and the idea of doing a lot of experiments to chase victory is a bad idea that will make you even experience a lot of losses, the point is that you must understand how gambling works along with how victory comes because with that I think you will not dare to overdo it.
1119  Other / Off-topic / Re: Keeping your gambling habit a secret. on: January 17, 2024, 05:20:06 PM
The overall viewpoint of society on gambling activities is negative, not least because they see from the many facts that people end up in bad situations in life as a result of being involved in gambling, although I would say you will still be fine by having the right approach to gambling but still if the public knows that you are involved then they will most likely think that you are one of the people who will be the next victim of this gambling activity.

Therefore I think there is no point in exposing this gambling activity to others especially to people who do not gamble or even who are against gambling activities, because it will only create a bad image from the views of others to you. So of course it's better to just keep it a secret with a note that you must have a good approach in your gambling involvement, because I'm sure all gamblers don't want to end up in a slump as a result of the wrong gambling approach and the other thing is to remain guarded and firm in applying risk management.
Not that really new and not really that shocking anymore on which there would really be those kind of negative impressions and views towards gambling on which it isnt really that new anymore into this society on which there would really be always those negative things to say about. This is why its not really that shocking that people would really be that be secretive into the gambling dealing that they are really that doing in silent.
They dont really like on getting judged and this is why you cant blame them on not to show themselves that they are getting involved with gambling specially into the people around.
Even into our relatives or family, we would really be skeptical on letting them see on what we are doing because once they do saw that you are involved with gambling then they would be
automatically having those negative impressions that you are really that addicted and have that wrecked life in terms of finances. lol

Yes overall you have also confirmed that gambling has a bad or even very bad point of view in the eyes of society, and another driver is that not all countries legalize this activity so with this then obviously the public's point of view will be even stronger towards gambling is a bad activity that must be avoided, and also this is the reason why most gamblers prefer to keep their gambling activities secret because they don't want to have a bad image or view from the surrounding community.

Yes that's right, not only from the point of view of others but it also includes the point of view of our own family will be negative towards us because of our gambling activities, so it's best that there is no other way that we have to keep our gambling activities secret, after all gambling is only for enjoyment and not for display, you will not get any points from your decision to reveal everything to others and more likely it will only make your image bad in the eyes of others.
1120  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Social aspects of online gambling on: January 17, 2024, 04:40:35 PM
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In my opinion for those gamblers who need socialization there are land-based casinos and cruise ship casinos. There you can always find someone with whom you can spend a good time for a pleasant conversation. In extreme cases, you can always invite friends to your home and play the same poker or other gambling card game.

Online games do not need to be socialized. They are designed for something else - a quick opportunity to play gambling having at hand a smartphone or laptop with an Internet connection.

Right, so I think it's just a matter of choice, as we know there are two types of gambling which are online and offline and for the socialization issue obviously a gambler can maximize it in the offline type of gambling because as you already said that there they can always find other people or visitors who are also trying their luck at the same time, you can make a lot of friends or maybe get some useful references in or out of the gambling field.

So the point is that casinos have provided easier choices and you have the freedom to choose, however each casino has its own advantages, online casinos make it easy for anyone to gamble anytime and anywhere unlimited by only using intermediaries such as cellphones or laptops, you manage it yourself as long as you have money to bet. And for offline casinos, obviously the way gambling works is real, meaning that you gamble through real gambling tools and in terms of the atmosphere is clearly different, which as we said above, you can meet many visitors there and I think this is the right choice if your goal is more towards socialization activities to build good relationships with many people directly, and this is an option.
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