Yes that's right, however depending on how the person is or I mean it all depends on the personality of the person, the situation can be as you said that it is a possibility that after having children or after having a family someone still does not care about something that should be their responsibility and some are normal in the sense that they become more responsible and all of this depends on how the personality is and also how severe the level of their involvement in gambling is.

I think you may have seen or read elsewhere about a father who left his toddler at home alone to go to a casino to gamble, and clearly this is behavior and actions that reflect that he is a family man who is so irresponsible that he would risk the life of his own child just to gamble.

Yes, it is true and I have one friend who is a gambler on slot games where he always plays by making the RTP machine as a reference or simply as you said above that when the RTP percentage on one of the games is high then they will choose or stick to the game, all of this is based on their feelings and beliefs that they think the high RTP percentage will be able to increase their chances of winning closer. Honestly, I don't really know about that, but let's think with the logic that the whole gambling is to benefit the casino and on the other hand the RTP is provided by the casino itself which means it is not a very possible thing that the RTP is manipulated? I think this is a suspicion that should be in your mind, where there is a possibility that the casino makes the percentage of the game high when in fact the game's performance is very bad.

Right, I agree with you that I don't really believe in it either, because as I said above that if we think rationally using logic then I think it's something that should be suspected and not used as a reference for choosing games, in the end you will still be able to win when you are lucky, it's that simple.

I think it is no longer strange to gamble even though they are in a situation and state of fatigue due to other activities, because basically if we talk about gamblers who are addicted, it is clear that they will not care about any situation, whether they are tired or whatever, the first thing on their mind is gambling, which is usually someone who has entered the addiction phase, even they are very likely to justify any means to be able to gamble, Like in terms of budget, if for example they don't have a budget then they will use loans as an alternative, they always force things and also they cannot see any situation and condition or simply a tired or unfocused situation is not something that can prevent them from continuing their desire to gamble.

Back to the discussion at the beginning that yes it is true as you said above that gambling when we are in a tired situation can trigger many problems due to mistakes that are made unconsciously due to lack of concentration in terms of making decisions, and I think someone who comes with the intention of enjoying a gambling session I think they will not be rash in making decisions or simply put it is certain that they will not force themselves to gamble when they are feeling tired.

Yes because the problem is that they have entered the addiction phase which is the worst phase in gambling because there are a lot of problems that they will experience when the level of interest in gambling is quite high, but I think giving advice that is suggested or that is neutral depends on the person too, or the point is that maybe the person who will give the advice does not know about the dangers of the bad effects of treating gambling in the wrong way.

I think if for example the situation is that the person giving the advice is someone who doesn't really understand the dangers of gambling if done in an excessive way then of course there is a possibility for them to still advise their friend to bet a high amount and we can conclude that these are two typical people who are too focused on winning and don't have a true understanding of what gambling really is, the impact is that maybe the person who gets the advice will feel like he is fully supported to really bet a large amount. On the other hand I can't really blame his friend because after all their ignorance about the dangers of gambling is the problem, but if the opposite in the sense that you know about the various bad effects that exist in gambling but you advise others to act aggressively then yes clearly you are someone who supports others to get into big trouble.

Yes we can't lie that life is always about money because everything we need can be obtained only by using money such as shopping to meet the needs of life, and most people misunderstand what gambling really is, they don't really understand thoroughly about gambling and how winning works, what is in their minds is just "chances of winning" and they are too focused on that which in the end they unconsciously override the aspects of possible risks that are clearly inherent in gambling activities. This is the main problem where they are too focused on the chances of winning that they ignore other facts that exist in gambling such as the certainty of losing.

I understand that everyone wants to win but for some people they are able to balance their actions based on the right understanding where they gamble without putting too high expectations on winning or simply they always act carefully such as only putting the amount they can afford if they lose in the end because they understand that there is a possibility of losing in gambling, while some other gamblers are too pushy to get or realize the chances of winning by doing everything that doesn't even make sense which in the end will make them end up with a lot of problems, pressure and regret.

Yes I agree with you that very few people are able to think in a healthy way when it comes to gambling, all because of the winning opportunities that they think they can use to multiply the money they bring, but the fact is that in the end they are always slapped by the reality of losing even with a large amount, and obviously this is the reason why gambling is more recommended to be used as entertainment because when you don't put seriousness to earning then you will be able to limit your expectations or expectations of winning.

True, I think this has become a fact that most gamblers come to earn especially people who have problems in their finances which in the end they try to make gambling an alternative place to overcome their financial problems such as viewing gambling as a quick way to make ends meet and usually I see this kind of goal and mindset more owned by poor people. But the fact is as we know that gambling is not a place to earn, I understand that the chances of winning are for everyone which means whoever they are they have the opportunity to get a win, but what we have to understand is that gambling is something that cannot be predicted because everything always runs randomly to determine whether you win or lose.

Or simply you will never know whether you will win or lose in the session, while on the other hand the possibility of losing is always a sure thing and in the end the act or purpose of gambling to earn will cause a lot of problems, or simply instead of earning but what happens is that you lose money consistently due to an excessive or aggressive approach to gambling with the encouragement of the goal of earning. However, gambling is more recommended to be made as a place of entertainment because the uncertainty about the problem of getting a win is always a big reason why we should not make it a means of earning and if you still carry the mindset of gambling to earn then in the end it will only make you stuck in the cycle of chasing wins to recover the situation and there is no time limit set.

Yes it is true that gambling addiction has its own level depending on how badly they treat gambling in the wrong way, or I mean depending on how aggressively they treat their gambling activities, and if you ask me about why they still continue their gambling activities when on the other hand they have lost all the valuable things in their lives such as large amounts of money, homes, businesses and families in my opinion it is simple that they have not been able to reach the level of awareness in themselves and also they have not been able to be in a situation to understand the fact that gambling is about winning and losing or gambling is a risky activity.

You only know a few of them where what you know is that a person who is addicted to gambling can turn back or stop and get out of the gambling zone while on the other hand there is a very chronic level of addiction where it is really very difficult for them to achieve self-awareness, they are still in a situation of not being able to let go of all that has been lost so they are still gambling which is where they have the goal of returning something that has been lost which is actually quite an impossible thing to achieve, because that action is like you are chasing your own shadow and I am sure that everything will still end up with significant regret.

Everyone has their own goals and reasons why they come with these intentions such as to earn (multiply) or just for entertainment and these goals also come based on how they understand gambling itself, simply put if for example they come without having a mature understanding of what gambling really is then I think they will have the goal of gambling to earn like you here, but if basically they really understand that gambling is not just about the chances of winning but always involves the possibility of losing then they will prefer to make gambling a place to find entertainment.

On the other hand I understand that everyone needs money but I think it is an absurd mindset if you put the goal of earning on gambling, it is true the fact that casinos provide equal opportunities to all gamblers to get winnings which may be in different amounts, but what we have to remember here is that gambling runs randomly which means you can never know about what makes you win and what makes you lose because the name of gambling is always about unpredictable activities which means it only refers to luck. The point is as I said above that I understand everyone needs money but the fact is gambling is not the place to earn because of the risk of possible loss that will continue to lurk you, this is why we prefer to advise anyone to put entertainment purposes in gambling, because this is safer for long-term involvement. And yes it is a fact that when a person puts the goal of earning then I believe they have a high probability of doing everything possible to get a win while luck will not be able to come according to what you want, I think you can judge about which one is better to be a goal.

Obviously gambling can affect the financial balance in the family, regardless of whether you have children or not, still if you have entered a family situation or that means if for example you are married and have a wife or husband then your responsibilities will be greater than when you are single, especially if you are a husband who is the head of the family who must meet all the needs of your family's life which in fact can never be tolerated.

This means that you must always have money especially to minimize emergencies that can never be predicted, and obviously having a gambling habit has a high possibility of affecting the financial balance in the family which I think it is not uncommon for a family relationship to end in divorce due to financial problems caused by treating gambling in the wrong way regardless of whether you are a responsible gambler or not which will ultimately make you feel a greater responsibility because you also have to have a budget to fulfill your gambling habit in addition to the responsibility of meeting the needs of the family. Honestly, I have not yet entered the family phase or I mean I am still in a single situation but what is certain is that I will try to quit gambling first when I want to start a family or get married.

Thanks OP because these are very good tips and suggestions to help anyone to avoid many temptations such as advertisements that can make a person feel tempted and again undo his intention to stop or avoid gambling such as turning off ad impressions through Google account settings for Youtube channels, but I think this is only for some people who are very active in terms of using the Youtube application, Because obviously if we talk about the promotion of gambling advertisements then you can find it on various social media and not just on Youtube, and honestly I am a fairly active Facebook user where I see and find a lot of gambling advertisements passing on smart phone screens which are usually promoted by stremers or influencers.

Although this is a good suggestion, I think it is quite difficult to completely change the rules to disable all gambling ads because casinos do not only advertise like this on one application or website but on all social media platforms that are reached by humans, But I will still support these tips and suggestions and maybe I will also slightly suggest to you or anyone to while building self-exclusion or other precautions apart from changing the rules on some social media to avoid gambling ad impressions, and my suggestion is that you can keep yourself busy with many other activities to distract yourself from gambling as well as limiting your association if for example you have a neighborhood that is very active in gambling.

Yes you are absolutely right on this and I agree with you that however the truth is that RTP cannot be used as a reference point for us to overreact, or what it means is that RTP cannot guarantee you to end the session with a win, no matter how high the RTP percentage is in some games at the end of the day the conclusion is still very simple that you will win when you are really lucky regardless of whether the RTP percentage of the game you are playing has a high or low percentage.

The logic is that these RTP machines are created by the casinos themselves while as we know gambling is a business for the casinos whose overall aim is to benefit the house, so does it make sense that we put faith or trust in something provided by the casino that leads to increased chances of winning? I think we should have doubts because it is very possible that RTP is a kind of trap from the casino to make gamblers put their faith or also to make gamblers act more excessively, and before being honest I have also proven myself about the accuracy of this RTP which is where when the RTP is at a fairly high level but I even lose in a few trials, but when I bet on games that have low RTP the results win, and I think it is a fact that RTP does not guarantee anything at all, especially victory, this is a casino marketing strategy to get bigger profits.

This is a very good discussion, OP, and this can be a very valuable lesson for us so that we don't make the same mistakes that we now know that gambling in a state of fatigue after doing a lot of daily activities can make us negligent and wrong in doing something like what you said where you were wrong in writing the amount or number you wanted to bet. It's also true that gambling really requires good concentration in itself because this involves making decisions where concentration will be able to smooth out the decisions you have made, or it means that by having good concentration, you can do everything according to the decisions you make based on careful consideration beforehand.

Looking at your case it seems that I can conclude that you are one of those gamblers who is quite responsible and knows your limits but unfortunately you gamble at the wrong time where you gamble when you are tired due to other activities that in the end you unconsciously make mistakes that you should not do when you have good concentration and focus. The point is this is a good lesson for us so that we can be more careful and thank you for sharing it here.

True, those are words that can make your friend or anyone feel supported or encouraged to continue his actions to bet even very large money which is where such words might make them even more convinced that they really have to "do it", whereas on the other hand high confidence will usually only lead you to disappointment at the end of the session when everything does not go according to what you want.

Therefore, as you said, it is better to be neutral in terms of giving advice to others about betting issues, especially to your friends, where the more appropriate ideas and suggestions are as you said above, namely telling him that he doesn't have to push too hard because after all, supporting a club doesn't always have to mean risking money and also yes, it is definitely better to suggest something more reasonable, such as trying to advise them to bet an amount that they can afford if for example they have the mind to bet a large amount because they are driven by their beliefs, Because obviously this action will be able to prevent something that is not wanted such as results that do not match expectations that can make them end up with disappointment and regret.

Unconsciousness plays an important role in these situations, or what it means is that they do it unconsciously and chasing defeat is an action or decision that results from emotional impulses where they are unable to accept the fact of losing in the previous session which in the end it is clear that emotions will dominate and those emotions will push them to some actions that actually do not make sense and will only trap themselves as you said above which in the end yes they even lose more and I think that is a case that has happened quite often and experienced by gambling addicts before.

Like the father you told me about where he was willing to spend all the pilgrimage from his job to gamble, I am sure that initially he never had the intention of spending all his money but because he was unable to accept the fact of losing money from his salary due to defeat then after that obviously emotions will push himself to risk more with the aim of restoring something that has been lost and I say that this is a typical gambler who comes with the intention to earn or maybe I would also say that he is a loser who wants to win but is not ready to accept the risk of losing. However, healthy gambling is when you are able to draw the line at the right time.

Yes it is true that the things that lead to the best approach to gambling are easier said than done, but nevertheless it is the best way we can do to minimize the possibility of too significant risks and maybe I will not give up on suggesting the best things to gamblers out of concern for safety. Looking at gambling as a place to make money is a mindset that will be very harmful to themselves which as you said will only lead to a worse situation later on.

I think it is a fact that when someone comes with the intention and purpose of earning then usually they will justify all means just to pursue victory such as making decisions that are completely unreasonable and beyond their abilities which is where this mindset will continue to end their session with disappointment because obviously even if you win you still won't be able to ignore the greed aspect in yourself which in the end makes you lose all the winnings at the beginning and the losing situation is also not much different which when losing I am sure that you will not be able to accept the fact of defeat which in the end as you said that they will act to pursue something that has been lost, it's like you're chasing your own shadow which will never work. So of course this is the reason why it is more advisable to gamble with the aim of entertainment because with this then I am sure you will not put excessive expectations on winning.

I'm not sure if this is a good idea or not, but I'm sure it's a good idea and I'm not sure if it's a good idea or not, but I'm sure it's a good idea and I'm not sure if it's a good idea or not, but I'm sure it's a good idea and I'm sure it's a good idea and I'm sure it's a good idea, but on the other hand as I said above that I quite agree with you that all of this still depends on how an individual addresses gambling itself which when we have a goal to earn or to change the fate in life then obviously losing is a very disappointing result which most of these typical gamblers find it difficult to accept that fact And what they don't know is that yes as you said that actually losing in gambling is a natural thing but the inability to accept defeat due to the goal of earning instead makes them chase defeat to restore something that has been lost when in fact it is still no matter how good the strategy you have it is still in the end the possibility of defeat will still occur.

Yes after all gambling is always about risk-taking activities which means that not only the chances of winning but the possibility of losing will also always be attached and on the other hand it is clear in my opinion that gamblers who can enjoy gambling activities despite the possibility of losing are those who come with the intention and purpose of seeking entertainment when they are bored and if you are a gambler who comes to earn then obviously I am sure that the gambling activities you do will be full of pressure.

If you ask about who is most affected by the impact of gambling addiction then obviously the answer is the addicted person himself because after all they are the ones who cause a lot of things that endanger themselves even though in fact sometimes they do not realize that their various actions endanger themselves in various aspects, especially in terms of finances, and not only that because the impact of addiction can also make a person forget or ignore other important things in his life, such as those who are married where a husband who is addicted to gambling will definitely not hesitate to put aside his life needs which are more important than anything else in order to fulfill his gambling activities.

Prioritizing the allocation for gambling over the needs of life is a scenario to trigger the breakdown of family relationships because after all, the name of the need can never be tolerated which usually makes their spouses not strong with the economic situation that is getting worse due to the allocation of gambling made by their spouses too excessive until in the end they choose to separate or divorce which means that the second impact of gambling has a high probability of being felt by the closest people around us such as family members or maybe friends.

Yes every gambler will only end up with one of two possibilities at the end of the session that is between winning or losing, all of which can never be known unless you have completed the session by seeing the results. Gambling is always random in terms of determining who the winner is and this is the reason why gambling can never be predicted because after all it is a gambling activity that bets your money on increasing or losing.

Of course a rational mindset is the recommended action in gambling, because with this then obviously you will be able to really consider everything from various sides to be able to make a truly wise decision and this benefit can minimize the possibility of regret at the end of the session. As I said above, gambling is always random which means that you or anyone can never know the outcome, and this means that gambling should not be taken too seriously and also should not put any expectations because in many cases they will usually only end up with disappointment due to putting their hopes in a place that is always about uncertainty and this confirms that gambling is an activity for profit, so be careful before you regret it.

Basically everyone wants to win because after all we all need money to continue living or to help make ends meet, but the difference is that there are gamblers who can draw the line or stop at the right time in the sense as you say that when they win they can move quickly to stop and when they lose they are also able to accept the fact of defeat, And the other part is that yes, those who cannot manage their gambling activities well at all in the sense that when they win they are unable to resist the temptation to finally apply greed and when they lose they are unable to accept the fact of defeat and instead continue the game with the intention and purpose of returning something that has been lost and obviously this is a typical gambler who will soon enter the addiction phase.

I don't think it's right to talk about "satisfaction" or making satisfaction the limit to stop and go home safely, because basically what is called satisfaction is very close to what is called desire, meaning that feelings of dissatisfaction can continue to grow which ultimately makes it difficult for them to stop because they feel unsatisfied. However, what is more appropriate is to have a plan for the limits, for example, when you have won any amount then you better stop and if you lose once then you also have to get out immediately.

The point is that the impact of gambling can affect everything in a person's life, whether in terms of work, health, relationships and most importantly finances, these are some aspects that have a high probability of being affected by gambling, especially when you have entered the addiction phase where you will find it very difficult to ignore the slightest time not to gamble, and as experienced by the OP where he even exchanged his sleep or rest time for gambling which could make him lose focus when working because he lost his fitness.

After all if you think using common sense then yes it is clear as you said that there is still quite a lot of time for you to gamble, such as for example in your time off work which as you said that it is the right time and also we can really enjoy gambling with a relaxed state that makes us more focused and this action can also make you achieve a good balance in terms of dividing your focus on the activities you have, the point is that we must be able to apply the best possible management of time, do things according to their portions.