I understand what you mean, the meaning and conclusion is that in gambling the next result does not depend on how the results were in the previous session, there is no connection whatsoever because this is a probability activity that does not depend on how skilled you are, so you can never know and ensure the results that will occur in your latest session. I agree with that and that is the fact in gambling, therefore of course this is the reason why greed is an action that is prohibited, because it does not mean you will continue to win. But strangely, often a gambler always feels that a much bigger win is close to them, even though they never know whether luck is still holding out at that time or not, and one of the reasons why someone ends up losing again when they apply greed is because luck is gone.

Greed will always be something that is difficult to ignore for the majority of gamblers, especially those who are addicted, I understand what you are saying, that practicing is much more difficult than saying and as you said, usually when they are in a winning situation, the majority of people will prefer to continue the game in order to get bigger amounts, that's true but I think we also shouldn't forget that there is still a minority of gamblers who always feel enough with what they already get. What this means is that if you are a gambler who does not have an excessive interest in winning then yes you will be able to easily stop in winning situations and ignore greed, and in fact in losing situations it is the same, provided that if they understand and realize that winning comes from luck and after that the possibility of defeat will continue to lurk, so in terms of stopping when you win or stopping when you lose it will be an easy action if a gambler does not have the intention and goal to make a profit.

That's right, and I'm sure that gambling wouldn't be as popular as it is now if there was no money involved in it in the first place, meaning it's quite reasonable to say that one of the things that makes people feel more attracted to gambling is because there is money involved. , even though in fact in gambling everyone has the possibility of losing apart from the chance of winning, but if we talk about money then usually people will focus more on the idea of ​​"chances of winning", and this is what makes gamblers fall into the trap and get carried away completely. unconscious until finally addicted.

They like making money but of course everyone doesn't like losing money, and after all gambling is not only an activity that can give you money for free but can also lose you any amount of money in a short time, and this is why we You really need to have a realistic and neutral point of view, because by having a neutral understanding, I think it is less likely for them to be manipulated by their own expectations. Money is everything, and increasing dopamine levels in the brain is something that happens when someone succeeds in realizing their hopes such as winning, but however that only happens when we are lucky. On the other hand, gambling with friends can be more entertaining, even if they lose maybe it won't hurt too much, but winning in a really exciting situation can be more exhilarating.

Yes, that is the reason why every gambler is advised to have good responsibility, in the sense that with this ability they will be able to avoid various more significant bad possibilities. As we know, gambling is a game of luck, meaning that no one will ever know the outcome unless they have completed the session, and by having good responsibility you will be able to make peace with any situation that will occur at the end of the session, especially defeat.

Because in most cases, gamblers usually fall deeper into a deeper abyss when they are unable to take responsibility for all the decisions they have taken, especially when it turns out they lost at the end of the session, which is usually a situation that will make them emotional and chase losses that are actually indirectly will lead them to a worse disaster. The benefit, as you said, is that by having good responsibility it can save us from financial problems in life due to gambling, and I would say that to be a responsible gambler you must first justify your budget allocation every time you bet, in meaning try to only risk a small amount that you are prepared to lose.

Yes, of course, however and whenever we are involved in these activities, various bad possibilities will always lurk us. We can see the impact experienced by gamblers who are addicted, and I think that is normal because after all, when someone is chasing victory or prioritize the idea of ​​"earning" in gambling then that is what they will experience, the reason is obvious because the percentage of wins is much smaller compared to losses. This means that I would say that success in gambling is when someone is able to control their gambling activities well in the sense of not exceeding their limits, and not those who get big wins, because that is something that is most likely only temporary when they cannot manage and control it.

I think the bad effects experienced by addicted gamblers are a natural thing, and their biggest mistake is trying to achieve something big in a place where it is not possible, they don't think rationally that after all no significant results will be produced by little effort, therefore gambling is called an activity of luck.

On the other hand, gambling is a casino business, and such a business will always prioritize various ways to maximize profits, such as carrying out large-scale promotions, meaning they need people to be employed there in any department, whether as admin, marketing or maybe the one who set up the game system. Forget about that, the point is that overall gambling is a negative activity, but if we are able to control it according to our abilities by prioritizing various preventive measures then we will also be able to avoid significant impacts.

That is completely true, it means that in gambling winning is not the end of everything, or it means that there are still other results that can happen at that time after you have won and as long as you have not withdrawn the winning amount for some reason, such as still wanting to gamble, in the sense of losing. will always be a sure thing even if at first you manage to win. In gambling, of course, limiting time is also an important thing that must be prepared by gamblers apart from limiting the amount of the budget, because you have also said that even if, for example, they manage to win, if they do not set a time limit then in the end it is very possible for them to to experience defeat again.

You gave a good example, and maybe I will also suggest a strategy that is no less good which leads to the prevention aspect, such as when you succeed in winning and it turns out you still haven't reached the target time limit that has been set, then I would suggest that you first secure part of the winnings and leave the other part to continue the gambling session if you haven't reached your time limit, even if in the next session for example you lose but still you have secured some of the previous money, so you are still safe and I think this is almost the same as the plan You.

Yes, almost everyone here has a balanced understanding regarding the positive and negative sides of gambling, but not the people out there where the majority of them are still more focused on the chances of winning in gambling which can indirectly have a negative impact. in gambling. But from what you said about your approach to gambling then yes maybe I would say that you have a good approach, because you can still control everything and not let your mind be carried away by the idea of ​​"earning" as is often carried by gamblers who is addicted.

And actually, when we have a correct understanding of what and how gambling actually is, even if, for example, people try to influence us to fall into it, we will never follow them because we already know that what they suggest is not good and can lead us to many disaster. It's not uncommon for us to find people who always advise us to stop gambling, and not without reason, they suggest this because they have experienced it and felt the bad effects, therefore, as I said before, it doesn't matter if someone If someone else gives us advice or advice, consider it wisely, because maybe you need that advice.

Of course, this means that in gambling what must be prioritized is risk management and not the desire to get a big win, because as you said simply, it is clear that the higher our desire to win, the greater the level of risk we face. , and usually people who always prioritize themselves in pursuing big wins are those who don't have good personal responsibility, in the sense that they only want to win but when they experience defeat they get emotional, losers, right? clear, and it is a mindset that as time goes by will only cause them to experience greater and greater amounts of loss.

Therefore, in gambling, correct understanding is something that gamblers must have, in the sense of understanding that they can win but also realizing that they can lose large amounts of money, and with this awareness they will be able to measure their abilities. yourself in the sense of making decisions that do not exceed the limits of one's abilities.

There is nothing else that can make a person stop gambling other than running out of money at that time, at first glance it makes sense, but for a gambler who for example is already quite addicted then actually that is not the end of his gambling session at that time, as we know that they always think and create various ways to get money right away with the aim of chasing losses as you have said above, and usually so far what has always been used as an alternative is loans. The people closest to them will usually be the main targets when they are in this situation, usually they will try to contact some of the people closest to them and borrow money for quite sad reasons (lying) so that the lender will feel sorry.

On the other hand, from what I read about your opinion, I am sure that you are directing your ideas at people who are addicted, or you are telling about the habits that addicted gamblers always do when they are in a winning or losing situation. And speaking of when a gambler who is already addicted manages to win, then yes it is a really difficult situation for them to withdraw from, there will be lots of things that look tempting that will continue to tempt them at that time, they will assume that if they continue the game then they will succeed in getting a much bigger win, meaning that even if you manage to win, it is not a real win if you haven't cashed it in, greed will continue to tempt you, and greed will always be something that is difficult to ignore, especially if you are already addicted enough.

In my opinion, it is clear that it is because of the presence of money that makes a person experience increased levels of dopamine in the brain, the various sensations that are evoked in each spin are because the spin looks very good in the sense of having the potential to be profitable so that gamblers feel very happy (even though anything is still possible) . We can't lie that money is everything, and if someone only wants entertainment without any money behind winning then I think gambling will not be an option, because there are many other options that can also provide entertainment without involving risk.

But so far gambling is more often used as a choice when they have money to gamble, I understand that someone can still feel entertainment even if for example they don't win, but the opportunity to win in gambling is an additional point to be able to further increase the sensation and dopamine levels in the brain. In fact, as long as you or anyone else is able to treat gambling well based on correct understanding and without exceeding your limits then it won't be a problem, because so far the majority of cases of people who have lost significant amounts of money are those who don't understand. and realize that there is a much greater risk.

It depends on a person's perspective in dealing with gambling, some say that gambling is the same as wasting money as you said, and I think it depends on the situation too, if basically they are gambling with the amount of money that should be used. for other important things in their life then yes of course it can be said to be a waste of money, for their mindset or approach it is wrong but for the problem of the results at the end of the session it also depends on whether they are lucky or not, because if the results turn out to be win then they don't waste money, or what I mean by the context of wasting money also depends on how the results are at the end of the session.

And from what you gave the example above about someone trying to make money in gambling to meet medical expenses, actually his aim was right but he put his intentions in the wrong place because it was too risky, but fortunately he was able to cover all the medical expenses in time. he was really lucky, but however that was a bad example because it was clear that the possibility of defeat would always lurk at any time which of course could make the situation worse.

On the other hand, I hope you can explain in more detail about what benefits we can get from gambling, and what achievements we can get from this activity so that this discussion becomes more direct, or so that we can measure whether it makes sense or not. Accomplished a lot? I think not too much, especially in terms of finances, in the sense that there is no achievement of financial success in gambling because what happens is the opposite, instead of making money but the fact is that people end up running out of more money as time goes by especially when they have wrong approach.

Talking about the benefits of gambling, yes, maybe there are several things that we can get, such as making lots of new friends, especially when we gamble in physical casinos, getting entertainment when we have boring free time, and I think there is nothing more besides just those two, while the rest is the negative side. Overall as we know that the percentage of wins is much smaller than losses, it is natural because gambling is a business for casinos, and that is the reason why the negative impacts in gambling are much greater than the rewards.

Winning in gambling is nothing more than a chance, meaning there is no certainty for you or anyone to always end the session with a win, while on the other hand, defeat will always be a part that can never be separated. This means that although I understand that patience can help, it helps so that you don't lose larger amounts of money, and that doesn't mean that by applying patience you won't lose anything, and that's why I say that the possibility of losing will always be a part that cannot be avoided. in tolerance in gambling.

And also I would say that winning doesn't really depend on how patient you are in running the session, winning depends on luck, especially when talking about random types of gambling like slot machines, and as I said above the point is that patience does help, but only helps you to minimize the possibility of significant losses and does not mean ensuring that you will not lose at all.

Yes, we agree that a real win in gambling is when the winning amount is in real form, or in the sense that it is physically visible in your wallet and you can spend it on whatever you want. However, it is not uncommon for gamblers to say the following by bragging to other people, especially some of their friends, that they managed to achieve a big win, even though the win is still in the form of a balance in their betting account, meaning that there is still a lot of possibility for them to end up going home without taking anything.

And also usually this is where gamblers are tempted by greed, and I have also experienced several times that when I managed to achieve a big win by successfully getting an addition to the total balance I had then at that time various temptations came and whispered in my mind to continue and doubling the bet becomes bigger, and if you get caught up in things like that then you will most likely lose all the money you previously got, which often happens.

There are several things that you can immediately correct in your approach to gambling, friend, the first of which may be in terms of time, wherever you gamble and in any type of gambling, including sports, if basically you are busy with other things or activities in your life, such as work, so it's better to focus on activities that are much more important, meaning that time management and the ability to divide your time according to portions is really needed if you don't want your activities to be disturbed.

The second is that yes, it is clear that you are already aware that the amount of your bet is relatively large each time you run a session, you can immediately change it, and I think it will not be too difficult to make this change if you are really aware of the error. As you said, by only risking a small amount you will be able to easily let go of all the losses you experience, meaning that is indeed the best. Gambling is a chance activity, don't overdo it because there is no certainty that you will always win.

I am sure that the person who is trying to thwart the gambling session that you want to do is someone who has really experienced the bad effects of gambling where it is very likely that the person has lost large amounts of money and in the end he knows that gambling is an activity that is manipulated by Casino bookies always favor the house, and I think that's right, because as we know, overall the percentage of losses is much greater than wins, or gamblers experience losses much more often than wins.

In the end, what this person did may have disrupted your gambling activities at that time, but I hope you can consider the advice he has given you, considering that the house is the real winner which can indirectly make you more aware of the the bad effects of gambling. But if you are a responsible gambler in the sense of being able to control your gambling activities according to your abilities then there is nothing wrong with that, you just have to maintain everything well and try not to fall for anything that looks tempting at first.

Yes, I agree with that, and I would also say that an activity that is a matter of chance means that there is no element of consistency whatsoever in terms of earning, not only in terms of winnings but also including losses, or what this means is that it doesn't mean you can always win in Every time you have a gambling session, it doesn't mean that you will always lose every time you have a session, that is a chance activity that occurs randomly in determining the results.

Therefore, it makes sense, as you said, that we must really be able to make the best of the situation and conditions, in the sense that if we succeed in achieving victory, even though for example the victory is relatively small, we still have to be satisfied with the result, because basically we won. It's always much better than losing all your money due to defeat. And maybe I would say that greedy people are those who bring the wrong mindset to the wrong place.

Yes that kind of makes sense, it's impossible for someone to continue gambling if they run out of money or if they no longer have any money, while we know that the requirement to be able to engage in gambling is to risk money. And it is very likely that this situation will be faced when someone is really far from luck. On the other hand, if someone manages to win because luck comes at the right time, then yes, they have the opportunity to continue compared to other people who run out of money at the start of their gambling session.

 On the other hand, everyone can be lucky and can win any amount, but it is a fact that not all of them can really make good use of their lucky situation by withdrawing at the right time and securing the amount they have won by cashing out, This means that it is very likely that cashing out at the right time will only be done by gamblers who do not make the goal of "earning" their main priority.

You give a pretty good analogy in this regard, and yes I admit that treating gambling as a place to lose money can be useful in generating various forms of caution and vigilance. Gambling is a game to increase dopamine levels in the brain so that it can cause an exciting sensation, and yes gambling can be interpreted as a form of entertainment activity where as you have said, in the context of entertainment then yes it is a situation for us to waste - waste money, but awareness must still be maintained, lest we spend too much money at one time on something that is not very important, meaning there must be limits.

And maybe I will say that one of the reasons why gamblers don't think in that direction or in the analogy that you have conveyed above is because the object of winning in gambling is "money", and everyone can never lie that they always need it. and want money, meaning that because of the object of winning this is why the majority of gamblers ignore the negative side of gambling. And also I think if gambling only has the possibility of losing without providing a chance of winning then I think no one will ever want to gamble.

If from the start no one tells you about the actual concept of gambling then it is very likely that a beginner will misunderstand, which is usually where they will have quite high confidence and hope in winning at gambling, there are even some of them who think that gambling is a get rich quick scheme. This is the mistake that occurs in the majority of beginners' mindsets who come of their own accord without being suggested or invited by other people who have already gambled. This means that I understand your opinion that to be able to identify a mistake, a person must first make that mistake unintentionally, because in any case it is usually experience that will tell a person what is good and what is bad and should be avoided.

But that doesn't mean that by having a lot of experience they will be able to correct their mistakes in their mindset and approach to gambling. We can see addicted gamblers who are getting worse day by day. Getting a lucky streak is a very difficult situation to get, although it is possible for all gamblers including beginners, but this is only a matter of time, in the end they will definitely experience defeat.