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821  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Another health benefit of online gambling on: February 14, 2024, 05:01:14 PM
I can't accept that gambling has health benefits but its overall harmfulness and imbalance in society. A gambler can never be socially perfect as there is a possibility for him to create turmoil in a family and commit various social crimes and misdeeds. A family never expects anything good from a gambler but always he starts causing financial disaster to the family as well as relationships.
The opinion you have expressed here is correct. People who gamble often have various problems in their families. People who gamble don't spend much time with their family. People who are addicted to gambling get involved in many crimes and commit various crimes starting from drugs.  There is a high chance of getting involved with drugs. So I think it is better not to get involved with them and once one gets involved there is no limit to the suffering in life.

Yes and you have mentioned some of the bad effects that are very likely to be experienced by many gamblers as well as those that can affect or impact the people around them such as families when they gamble in the wrong way or gamble in a way that is not recommended, we have to go back to the actual fact that the societal perspective on gambling as a whole is negative and means that of course there is no positive expectation from someone who is already involved in gambling even if they are basically capable of being a good or responsible gambler because the possibility of bad potential is always lurking in them, and means that there is nothing better than not gambling at all or avoiding gambling activities. On the other hand, it is the right thing to do, no matter if you just want to have fun with gambling because the bad possibilities cannot always be avoided completely and it means that it is very possible for you to eventually become someone who is addicted to gambling and suffer many problems that will befall you and the closest people in your life.
822  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk. on: February 14, 2024, 04:41:13 PM
Some people don't have anything productive to do because they have grown to get their money easily and these kinds of people do not easy one to quit gambling because the losses are not affecting them as badly as those who are struggling to make money and they only make money from their hard-earned from their daily job. This kind of person is not really hard to convince because once they face a huge obstacle in their life and run out of money, they often quit gambling and focus on the more convincing way to earn their living rather than gambling all day which is not the same case for some people who haven't struggled to earn their money since they are rich and capable of losing it every day.
Any gambling addict will find it difficult to receive any motivation to stop gambling activities, especially since they often get luck from gambling rather than losses that do not have a bad impact on their finances, in my opinion it is not a problem if they maintain gambling principles carefully as long as they allocate their budget to gambling and budgeting for future savings as a priority, but I am afraid that some gamblers with low economic status still risk their entire work income just to gamble and they ignore financial management, they will feel the worst impact when they need a budget for emergency needs. No one forces other people to stop gambling as long as they gamble according to the rules and determine the limits of funds for gambling, but if your economic conditions do not allow you to gamble then don't gamble regularly, but gamble at certain times just for fun.

Absolutely mate everytime we say that a gambler was addict then it will say that is too hard to leave or quit cause we all know their mind will always thinking the past which is they need to gambler for Their wants. Cause they will aim for the winning but in reality  everytime they put a bet there's a high chances of Lossing cause in gambling we can not predict the outcome of our bet which is pretty sure enough that it will make us dissatisfied once we learn that gambling is not the way we can make money like our daily jobs.

One of the reasons why a gambler can end up or enter the addiction phase is because from the beginning they have the wrong point of view and understanding about gambling, they think that gambling is a place that can provide them with income and nothing but this mindset is usually formed when they get a win at the beginning of their involvement in gambling so that it indirectly makes them conclude that gambling can be a place of income, But unfortunately gambling is not for that, because over time the results of gambling will be different - different, I mean that maybe you now manage to win a certain amount but it cannot be denied and it is very likely that in the next session you lose and lose all the money you won before.

The expectation that they put on winning makes them irresponsible gamblers in the sense that they can't accept the fact of losing at the end of the session, and of course their usual course of action is to chase the winnings to restore something that has been lost, but instead what happens is that they suffer even more losses. On the other hand, you have already said one of the reasons why gambling should not be used as a place to earn, that is because there is absolutely no certainty that can guarantee you to win at the end of the session, and that means that all the wins you manage to get are no more than a "coincidence".
823  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: gambling for fun vs gambling for the financial benefit. on: February 14, 2024, 04:21:04 PM
That's why I say that becoming a gambling addict will be very dangerous for your life and family. And people like you said, I'm sure they are people from lower and middle economic levels, right? I mean according to what I know rich and super rich people never gamble to make money. They do it just for fun.

This is a problem for most gamblers. Because there are still many people who think of gambling as a source of income. I have a friend and I think he can be an example not to get addicted. He is not a rich man. He also only bets very small amounts. And he did it just for fun and to add adrenaline while watching sports. People like him will not be addicted to gambling and will not continue to gamble. What is most necessary is to manage time and money well, and realize that gambling will be very dangerous if we are not able to control it well.
In the gambling section, addiction is often discussed, but how often do we see it in everyday life? I realize this problem exists, but I don't think it's widespread enough to be discussed that often. Every player would like to make money from gambling, but mostly they play for such little money that this cannot become a problem for them, and those who want to play for big money do it for a reason, it means they have financial wealth that allows to do this, or they manages to make money from it.

How often do we see this problem in real life? I have several friends who are now addicted, every day they always experience a lot of problems, losing financial balance is an impact that they will definitely feel in real life, and I saw one of my friends just sold one of the items that seemed to  have become a friend of life for most people, namely gadgets, He needs the gadget to help facilitate his life in every way and one of them is to communicate with family or friends or girlfriends, and there is no other way to be able to help himself from the needs of life that cannot be tolerated other than he has to sell his gadget and get  money to buy food, and isn't this a gambling addiction problem that causes problems in everyday life? Not only this because I also often see some news shows that inform that the rate of people who commit criminal acts is higher due to the impact of gambling addiction.

One of the reasons why we have to talk about the evils of gambling addiction as well as give/exchange advice and guidance to anyone as a preventive measure is because this is the only thing we can do to help our fellow gamblers not end up with addiction and a lot of bad consequences. On the other hand you can't just say that "most gamblers only play with little money", you can't conclude that simply because that idea overrides another fact here which is that the population of addicted people is increasing and I saw this fact from some news shows that showed statistics of the increase in people involved in gambling where the percentage increase almost touched 100x from 2020 to now, and this means that the population of addicted people will increase, and this is the reason why we always discuss the adverse effects of addiction along with giving a lot of advice and direction so that the number of addicted people can be minimized. I understand that most gamblers come to earn but unfortunately gambling is not a place that can provide you with income, it is this misconception that we must correct and redirect.
824  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Risking 1% in Gambling on: February 14, 2024, 04:01:14 PM
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Right, we are of the same mind on this, I think it is no longer a matter of suspicion but certainly this really happens and is done by most gamblers especially those who have entered the addiction phase, they will find it difficult to ignore all the people they see in running sessions, so this is what makes them end up depositing much larger amounts. On the other hand, I will absolutely confirm that only a few gamblers are able to ignore the "greed" aspect of gambling because the opportunity to get a bigger  amount of winnings is always in their mind. And for those gamblers who can actually afford to risk no more than 1% in their gambling then I can confirm  that they really understand the various bad possibilities that exist in gambling so that they prefer to prioritize risk management or various precautions for safety.
But I think the amount of 5% or more is still reasonable amount because as long as it doesn't exceed quarter of you monthly income and it is still acceptable to lose it, even if the money is actually prepared for fun then it is still decent amount.
But on the other hand, the money must be money that is not used for other purposes or to meet life needs, they must use money that can make them feel happy but is not difficult to lose.
Percentage amount is not problem because everyone income is different, but I agree that gamblers who are in the addiction phase will be able to deposit and spend more money.
They will increase the amount of bets to be bigger without considering it and they gamble really with the aim of pursuing the ambition to be able to make more money, clearly this is very fatal mistake and should be avoided by every gambler.
If they really want to stay safe and avoid various risks that affect their lives, they must be able to manage or limit any budget they spend on gambling, otherwise it is clear that complicated problems will definitely arise in the future.

Yes there may be some gamblers who think that 1% is too small an amount to get a lot of fun or to sustain the fun over a longer period of time, and of course I also wouldn't mind if they wanted to increase the amount of budget they carry a little to 5% as you mentioned for example and just don't go over 10% because of course when you put the amount of bets with a budget above 10% then obviously at least it will definitely create problems in terms of your finances even if the problems are not too big. but the fear is that over time it is possible to eventually experience an increase in interest in gambling that can change all the approaches that you have planned before, But the fear is that over time it is very possible that you will eventually experience an increased interest in gambling that can change all the approaches you have planned before.

One of the reasons why I emphasize to anyone to put 1% in each gambling session is because it is very likely that they will eventually experience a change of interest as I said above which of course can make them think of increasing their budget, and with you in the habit of putting 1% then obviously I think the amount of increase will not immediately exceed above 10% because it is likely that this scenario will be gradual, and imagine if you start your gambling by putting a budget amount of 5% - 10% then wouldn't the amount reach 20% when you experience a change of interest over time? Of course that's a possibility, and it's nothing but advice that I say this so that you don't lose too much. On the other hand, you have also mentioned about the habits that are always done by gamblers who have entered the addiction phase and that is true.
825  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you seen gambling advertisements on TV? Opinion. on: February 14, 2024, 03:41:22 PM
Yes and the reason is because we do not have the right and power to regulate everything because all of that is beyond our ability individually and that means only the government in a country can limit or even prevent some promotional broadcasts in various channels because the government has the right and power to do so, and that means there is no other way if you really don't want your child to be affected by things like this especially what they see other than us limiting the activities carried out by a child, this is the only thing we can do for prevention so that things that are not wanted can be minimized a little. On the other hand, yes you have also said something that I said earlier that now is the digital era where everything we can get from the internet, especially science and other knowledge, so the point is that as much as possible we have to direct a child to things that are indeed more positive and along with limiting them, don't let them walk alone without monitoring from you as a parent.
We should be the ones to prevent TV programs by restricting our children by permitting them to watch TV at certain times so that they will not watch TV outside of those hours. Maybe we should invite them to do activities outside the home so that they will get used to physical activities and not depend on activities at home. This is also to train them to get used to physical activity so that they don't mind if later, when they grow up, they also have to do a lot of physical activity. As parents, we must also be able to limit the use of devices connected to the internet because if they are not limited, they can access many things that they are not allowed to see. If children have been trained from an early age, they will start to get used to it and know what to do so that they will not fall into bad things and will also be able to adapt themselves to stay away from bad things they already know about.

Yes, I think this is quite simple and for this problem it really comes back to parents who do have full responsibility for their children, we are not not allowing a child to watch any channel, one of which is a show on TV but maybe along with that it would be nice to apply limits to the activities carried out by a child, On the other hand, we will not always be able to predict the schedule of shows on TV channels and that means it is very possible that when you only allow your child to watch at certain hours it turns out that at the same time there are shows that lead to negative things and one of them is the promotion of gambling, and a better solution is that you have to be next to them when they are watching TV shows or playing other social media because with this, you will have full control to prevent and divert your child's vision when there are shows that smell of gambling.

Or yes, it can also be like what you suggest where we divert a child's attention to many other things that are physical actions such as outdoor activities whether it is exercising which can indeed be healthy and improve a child's fitness. On the other hand of course directing a child to more positive things is a good action that will ultimately create good habits for themselves.
826  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you ever introduced an elder gambler to online betting? on: February 14, 2024, 03:21:51 PM

Yes as I said above that even though they have a fairly responsible personality in real life but honestly I really wouldn't fully believe that they could be a responsible person if they were involved in gambling activities, this is another thing that raises another speculation and I have already mentioned my disbelief when they are involved in gambling. Gambling is a place that will have a bad impact on irresponsible people and gambling can also be a trap for those who are basically responsible in real life.

All the ideas that I said before that lead to preventive measures are all none other than my own experience, before that I once asked one of my friends who had already gambled to teach me how to gamble, he asked me "are you sure you want to get involved in gambling, think carefully" and I instantly said "Yes", and after that I was really in a bad situation where I lost balance in my finances which in the end I really realized that I shouldn't have asked my friend to teach me how to gamble, Although I don't blame them but still the bad impact is really felt by me and this is the reason why I really will never promote or teach someone to gamble, it is too risky especially for beginners who are really new to this activity or the elderly who should enjoy their old age with fun that does not involve risk.

You could be responsible even if you do even engage with gambling. The main issue on here is that someone do loses up their control along the process on which on the time that they would really be engaging with gambling is that they do lost off track and would really be that being impulsive along the process. This is why i dont really like myself to be that to have those kind fo introductions or recommendations on playing gambling because i dont really like for someone to mess up their lives because of me specially with those elderly.

Just let them on doing on the things that they are that tending to do so, we do have different interest in life on which it is really just that right
just leave them alone and would really be that having no recommendation on things so that there would be no regrets or conscience that would be pushing you onwards.

Yes, that is the case, because gambling is very likely to change a person's character and personality, as I said that my prediction could be something that is very likely to eventually happen, which is where someone who has responsibilities in his real life cannot be denied that it will be possible for them to eventually fall into the wrong approach to gambling, We must understand that gambling is an activity that can stimulate your brain and mind because there is a chance of winning there that is always difficult for most gamblers to ignore and this is what can make gamblers change over time without them realizing when they are really in a situation that makes them lose control.

To be honest, I do not discourage anyone from recommending anything to others, especially the elderly, but before that I hope you try to consider first about the negative and positive impacts that exist in something you want to recommend, if there are indeed bad effects that are far greater than the fun then obviously avoid it and look for other alternatives that do not have serious risks.
827  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How my gambling life started. on: February 13, 2024, 11:37:32 PM
Then the casino and other online bet platforms was introduced in time. This was how I was exposed and my begining of gambling life!
Yes, all of us must have experienced experiences in the gambling arena, whether it started illegally or legally, the point is that everyone has a life story of first being involved in gambling.

I also have a long life history in gambling, where I got to know online gambling through a friend, he taught me everything so that I could master gambling like now, but basically gambling has made me happy and difficult, while I was still learning, especially online crypto gambling, however, I always hoped that gambling could make me better in all aspects.

And everyone has quite different experiences in their gambling activities, all of this depends on how they treat their gambling and what their perspective on gambling is, I will say this when you or anyone asks what impact will be received by gamblers during their involvement. What is worrying is the gamblers who take gambling too seriously, especially for those who think that gambling is an earning activity, on the other hand I can already ensure that in the end you will experience many bad effects when gambling on the wrong path.

Yes we are the same, I also know about gambling through one of my friends, he introduced me to gambling which eventually I took an interest in this activity, to be honest in the early stages I can be said to be one of the gamblers who has a big ambition to win but in the end when I have experienced a very bad thing where I really have financial problems and with experiences like that then now I really understand about gambling, never put any hope in this activity because gambling is actually nothing more than a probability activity that only provides "opportunities" (not that you always win), the possibility of risk will always lurk you and even the possibility of bad impact is much greater, therefore we must be very careful in addressing and treating gambling if you do not want to end up with a lot of problems.
828  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think gambling every day is better? on: February 13, 2024, 11:00:16 PM

but it is only recommended for very rich gamblers who have unlimited money and for ordinary gamblers it is not recommended because usually middle class gamblers have an average income so if they use it to gamble every day they will definitely spend money from their income just to try their luck at gambling.

People indulge in their favorite pastime activities on a daily basis. There could be people out there that regularly gambles, likely on a daily basis as well.
One can only comfortably gamble if there’s enough money to do so. And for one to go on to gamble daily for whatever reasons, the pockets of such individuals must be extremely deep for him to comfortably keep at it.

Middle to lower income earners could find it difficult to gamble daily even with lower amount of money as there are other more important expenses that would need to be taken care of.

But I say that it is no longer "entertainment" if the activity basically causes problems to a person, as you said that when you have a goal to gamble every day then you must have a sufficient budget for each day especially to fund your gambling activities, but isn't it right to say that over time this habit will actually cause a lot of financial problems? obviously, one of the reasons is because gambling is not always about winning but the possibility of losing can also never be avoided, and can never be separated from gambling because gambling is a risk-taking activity.

I think it is a very careless or even stupid decision to gamble every day, most likely you will experience a lot of financial problems because I can already confirm that the number of losses is definitely greater because winning always depends on how lucky you are at that time. On the other hand no matter how good your financial situation is, even if you are one of the rich people still I think eventually you can go bankrupt because of the approach to gambling that is very excessive, so avoid the idea of gambling every day because most likely gambling will no longer be fun but you will only spin the cycle of chasing losses to restore something that has been lost.
829  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling addiction lead to domestic violence? on: February 13, 2024, 10:32:58 PM
It is very possible that gambling can lead to domestic violence because there are sometimes when you are on the verge of winning a gambling game,and before you know it,you've gotten lose,and maybe you placed a high stake on the game,it is worth making someone very angry.
If this has happened to you,and you have a  wife at home,if she makes you angry or adds her own problem,you might be tempted to lay your hands on her,but it all depends on people,a hot tempered person will easily hit his woman,but a responsible man will still overlook things.
That's the hard reality. We can experience it ourselves, because gambling is closely connected to emotions. We have different thinking, and the outcome isn't in favor of our choice, resulting in a loss. Further, we don't have money to try to recover what has been lost. Different thoughts will circulate in our minds, and anything said by our close ones or someone on the way back home will surely end in some sort of problem. This happens, and for the same reason, we need to be very cautious after a loss.

But on the other hand there are still some gamblers who are able to stay fine, and that means they have a formula to prevent emotions that dominate them when they are in a losing situation, and I would say that the formula they apply in their gambling is that they have the right understanding and point of view about gambling, especially in terms of risk so that with this then they will not dare to act carelessly such as for example in putting the amount of money, they only put the amount they can be responsible for when losing and this is very useful for minimizing the occurrence of emotions when you lose. In contrast to most gamblers or especially those who have experienced addiction where they always act excessively because they always prioritize winning so it is only natural that in the end they get emotional when it turns out that the final result does not match what they want. So in my opinion what must be corrected is your mindset and point of view on gambling, never consider gambling as an activity that produces because of course in the end you will end up with a lot of disappointment, for me gambling is nothing more than an activity to fill spare time when I'm off work.
830  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: This was my highest risk. on: February 13, 2024, 06:01:52 PM
I wouldn't take this and have never taken such a ludicrous risk as buying someone else's position on a game that I wanted to bet on anyway. You do realize that if you've been there when the bets are being tallied you could've saved so much money and still earn arguably even more money in the process without paying so much money as what you did right now. Good on you for not losing it all but 9 times out of 10 this wouldn't be the case, trust me, and you just got so lucky today.

I'd never go so far as to become stupid for gambling to the point that I'm buying someone else's bets in hopes of winning whatever they could. It's like an investor paying/funding a business that doesn't even exist yet in hopes of earning money in the process. It's not gonna happen. Call me condescending or cynical but it's just not for me, and I think a good amount of people in this forum would agree with me as well.
I would not even call it being cynical, this is simply being a realist, whenever someone makes you an offer you always need to think what that other person is winning by doing so, since it is very rare that someone else is going to actually offer you a deal that is beneficial for you and instead they are looking out for themselves at all times, so if I was given this kind of offer I will immediately reject it since my first impression is that I will be disfavored if I did accept it.

The point is that you really need to be rational when you get some offers from other people such as those who offer to be gamblers that you fund, or other things promoting gambling to you without any cooperation, it all depends on you and maybe we can only suggest something like what you suggest that they really need to be rational and ask for some proof of the winnings that the person who promotes, if they cannot provide or show something as proof that they really make money from gambling then obviously you should feel doubtful and suspicious of them.

I think it's quite simple to make a decision, and  with you bringing a rational attitude then you will really know at least some facts from the suspicion that is in your mind when they promote something without any evidence that can really be trusted and you will be able to get a  conclusion and decision on the considerations that you do by being rational.
831  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Risking 1% in Gambling on: February 13, 2024, 05:43:16 PM
By risking 1%, you could end up losing everything. Because the size of the winnings will be quite ridiculous. And you can't win all the time. So now you have risked 1% and you have not won. Then you risked 1% again and again you didn't win. The third time you risked 1% and you didn't win. The fourth time luck smiled on you and you won. What do you get? You lost 3% and won 1%. And these statistics will continue.

The risking 1% in the gambling site can be think as the easy one,but the gambling with the one percentage capital was low for the game.So the gambling should play with the small betting if the initial was made as the one percentage from the earning.The gambling was seems to the easiest game,but playing with the experience to make the good money with the small capital like 1% from the income of gamblers.

i don't think a lot are risking only 1%, because more then likely, more gamblers are spending 5% or more. because once you are sitting in your game, the tendency of depositing more is high once you deplete your game.
but if the gambler can stick to 1% then that is commendable as he won't encounter any problem when it comes to his financials.

Right, we are of the same mind on this, I think it is no longer a matter of suspicion but certainly this really happens and is done by most gamblers especially those who have entered the addiction phase, they will find it difficult to ignore all the people they see in running sessions, so this is what makes them end up depositing much larger amounts. On the other hand, I will absolutely confirm that only a few gamblers are able to ignore the "greed" aspect of gambling because the opportunity to get a bigger  amount of winnings is always in their mind. And for those gamblers who can actually afford to risk no more than 1% in their gambling then I can confirm  that they really understand the various bad possibilities that exist in gambling so that they prefer to prioritize risk management or various precautions for safety.
832  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can you make gambling a profession - a full time job on: February 13, 2024, 05:23:07 PM

The fact that people do not realize that the losing streak possibility becoming major when they gamble more is the problem. If you want to make it a "profession" then you need to gamble a lot, this isn't really about getting lucky once, it is about the fact that we are talking about something that would be a big situation, and this is why I think it has to be something that would not be all that easy.

I hope that the best thing to do would be nothing too worried, and that has to be the situation. I think we are going to end up with a trouble if we are not careful. So all in all we need to end up with a situation that will not be all that easy, so all in all do not gamble professional because most likely that you are going to lose.
I've noticed that the secret to gambling, even for pros, is realising that its a combination of danger and entertainment. It takes balance to know when to play and when to give up. Over a sufficiently extended period of time, the idea of a "losing streak" is not merely conceivable; it is inevitable.

What do I think now? Absolutely, gamble for enjoyment. But what about professional gaming? A mindset that accepts risk and uncertainty is necessary, along with the constant understanding that failure is a part of the process. Savour the excitement, but proceed cautiously and responsibly. The key is to play the game rather than allowing it to play you.

Your statement is very good and right about gambling is an activity that can be "harmful and entertaining", we can choose whether we want to make gambling a harmful activity or vice versa by making and treating gambling as a fun activity. All of this is a choice and only you know what is best for yourself, but in the grand scheme of things and in the common sense that everyone has I am sure that all gamblers do not want to experience the ill effects of gambling, and that means that there is no other option that you have to choose but to make gambling as nothing more than a fun activity, with this mindset and point of view I think it will not be too difficult for you to create a balance in any case whether it is in terms of your financial time management.

I think the idea and point of view that gambling is just for "fun" can cover everything, my point is that by having this mindset and understanding then obviously you will have no difficulty doing some things or actions that are suggested, It will not be difficult for you to put small amounts because you understand that the possibility of risk can always not be avoided completely and you will also definitely limit the time of gambling because you know that when you gamble too often then it will be able to make you fall into the wrong path which ultimately makes you addicted, so the point is that we must control gambling and not gambling that controls us.
833  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you seen gambling advertisements on TV? Opinion. on: February 13, 2024, 05:03:12 PM
I think we will not be able to completely prevent some shows that involve or that have elements of gambling promotion to limit their promotional shows on several media such as TV channels or other platforms because now is the digital era that all things we can find by just looking and carrying, a lot of references and knowledge that we can get on the internet because indeed on the other hand the internet has become an important part for several companies to develop their business because it is the internet that is their biggest promotional place, and we can find many things whether positive or negative.

So the point is that we as parents must make plans that lead to prevention in any way that we think makes sense, and one of them may be by limiting the activities carried out by a child who is still underage who does have a high enough curiosity about something they see, I think limiting them from the association of the environment along with limiting them from using social media is a good step to minimize.
Yes, it is difficult to prevent what we see on TV channels, especially if such advertisements are continuously broadcast to attract viewers' interest to visit online or offline casinos. Moreover, technology has developed more rapidly than a few years ago and is very different. We can only control the time they watch shows on TV while providing insight and understanding so that they are not influenced by what they see on TV. Children who watch advertisements or other things on TV or internet channels will be easily influenced by what they see and follow it without thinking about the impact.

We as parents should be able to guide our children to prevent them from doing things that could have bad consequences and also limit what they are not allowed to know. That is to give them understand that they are still children who do not need to know many things at their age. Their great curiosity must be diverted to positive things to develop in a positive direction and not do bad things.

Yes and the reason is because we do not have the right and power to regulate everything because all of that is beyond our ability individually and that means only the government in a country can limit or even prevent some promotional broadcasts in various channels because the government has the right and power to do so, and that means there is no other way if you really don't want your child to be affected by things like this especially what they see other than us limiting the activities carried out by a child, this is the only thing we can do for prevention so that things that are not wanted can be minimized a little. On the other hand, yes you have also said something that I said earlier that now is the digital era where everything we can get from the internet, especially science and other knowledge, so the point is that as much as possible we have to direct a child to things that are indeed more positive and along with limiting them, don't let them walk alone without monitoring from you as a parent.
834  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to manage gambling winnings on: February 13, 2024, 04:43:11 PM

What you say is true, basically winning is very rare and difficult to get, only lucky people get it, therefore gambling with small bets will prevent us from experiencing big risks when defeat comes and if we win, manage it. our money to be used for useful and useful things. The important thing in our life is good and correct steps.
I agree with you, when you win, it is better to immediately leave the gambling place, so that we are not tempted and attracted again by the tricks in the casino.

Yes and we have to keep telling ourselves that "you can win when you are really lucky" only luck can bring you the results you expect, don't take it too seriously and if you lose then it means you are unlucky. Seriousness in gambling can lead you down the wrong path, so avoid it because after all gambling is nothing more than a place to find a little fun through some thrills you feel from a few spins or something that can help enliven the atmosphere with a little adrenaline in the running game.

Since gambling is an activity that is suggested only for entertainment purposes then obviously isn't putting in a small amount the right approach? Of course, because what we are looking for here is entertainment and not profit, if there was no risk behind gambling then maybe I would put a very large amount for a profit, but the problem is that the victory in gambling is always unpredictable and this is the reason why we should be more concerned with risk management than profit by putting the smallest amount we have, and also another benefit of treating gambling as an entertainment activity is that you will have no difficulty in making the decision to "cash out" when you are really lucky.
We should be more relaxed and not tense in the game, this is perhaps the main thing that we should feel about the game. Otherwise, if we feel greed, excessive tension, worry and stress, we will definitely commit wrong and illogical actions, which will make us later regret what we did. The most common action here is to continue the game even if we win the jackpot. The player feels greedy and thinks that he is kissed by luck, this is complete nonsense, because luck does not depend on our past successes. A relaxed player will not continue, he will calmly withdraw this winnings and leave with plans to enjoy life. Of course, not being stressed is not so easy, but if we can’t feel like that, then we are not ready to win the jackpot and we don’t deserve it.

Yes and a calm mood along with a relaxed feeling can only be obtained when you gamble without putting any hopes and expectations on winning, because obviously on the other hand if you put your hopes then the game that runs will be very stressful in the sense that you will feel really worried about losing, on the other hand you have said some things that are likely to be felt by gamblers when they come with the intention of earning and that is true when in the end they lose then we can be sure that some out of control actions will of course be taken as a result of the emotions that dominate. And this is the importance of being a responsible gambler, because with the responsibility you have it will be able to make you more relaxed because you are able to accept whatever the results at the end of the session are especially ready to lose, because with this then I think it is less likely for you to do things that are prohibited or not recommended, and one thing I want to say that the number of attempts made by gambling addicts will actually only make them end up with a lot of significant regrets.
835  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Beginner needs your advices in gambling. on: February 13, 2024, 04:23:15 PM
Gambling could affect your real life only if you start gambling for money. Otherwise there's no problem. And your one more question was, if gambling can make you addicted or not? Actually its verily possible that gambling could make you addiction. That will happenen when you gambling for earning and when you loss, you'll naturally again do gambling for recovery. And if you win, then money can makes you greedy and then it also inspires you to gambling again! Actually gambling is depends on you how you consider it. gamble for fun, not for making money. And don't gambling higher and control yourself
Gambling with the intention and purpose of earning money or income is the goal that most gamblers bring with them and now most of them have entered the addiction phase where they just spin on the cycle of getting winnings and losing and gambling again with the purpose of wanting to restore something that has been lost, there is absolutely no time limit that can determine about how long you will be in such a situation, the point is if you can identify the mistakes in terms of the approach you have in gambling then I think change is something that will not be too difficult for you to do.

I can honestly say that if they come in with the goal of making money then obviously they're going to feel addicted, because making winnings is their main goal and fun is another thing that's actually more advisable but it's something that they ignore. Actually there is no good situation if you have entered the addiction phase, you have also said here that when they win they will be greedy and when they lose they will be curious and try various ways to achieve recovery, but restoring something that has been lost in gambling will not be that easy, and the opposite happens where the amount you lose will be even greater, so we must be careful and always apply awareness and caution to avoid addiction.
Often there are no mistakes, nothing to learn from and nothing you could have done differently. Sometimes you'll just lose for a long time. Everyone has a goal to make money on back of their head, hree's nothing wrong with that, as without any incentives, we wouldn't most likely gamble. But when that's a main goal, then the whole experience gets loaded with expectations and assumptions.

I often see my gambling budget as a money for having fun. It's a similar to budget planned for night in the bar or trip to somewhere or something like that. I am confortable that i lose it all, but the whole experience is giving me a thrill as i actually might win, even win a lot. While starting to play i am often happiest, as i don't know what's coming. Even when i win, it's not that exciting anymore, as just right before bet gets solved, i am feeling the rush.

Yes you have corrected my previous statement and it is true that in gambling there is absolutely nothing we can learn especially when your goal is to win, or what it means is that you will not be able to learn anything to make you win because in gambling everything that happens there is pure "coincidence" especially about winning. On the other hand, I understand that the "fun" that people often say could be something they shelter from criticism, and that means I suspect that the real purpose of all gamblers comes to win. Because it is quite reasonable that the "chance of winning" that exists in gambling is one of the things that attracts gamblers to come, and if the real goal is to gain pleasure then why not choose something else that is fun without involving risk? of course this is everyone's choice.

Basically everyone doesn't like to lose, but when you are able to be a responsible gambler then you will be able to accept the fact of losing at the end of the session because the allocation of money you bet is not too big or that means it is money that you can afford to lose without feeling regret, and the difference is in terms of "amount" if you lose a large amount then obviously I would say that you are not a pleasure gambler, because gamblers who have lost a lot can be sure that they are chasing victory with various attempts but your journey will not be that easy because the possibility of risk can never be avoided and this is the reason why you lose more than pleasure gamblers.
836  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamble Responsibly on: February 13, 2024, 04:03:08 PM
You are right that gambling should be fun without involving regrets at the end of the session, but the opposite is true where most gamblers feel a lot of pressure, they seem to hide behind the idea of "fun" when it is nothing more than their shelter to avoid the ridicule of some other gamblers especially their friends who really gamble for fun.


Gambling is fun to an extent when you do not lose money which you never expected. As soon as anyone encouters a situation like this they forget about fun and chase the lost money. Hiding behind the fun is hapeens when anyone becomes habituat to gambling. A social gambler will always enjoy the company where he is gambling.

Why does a social gambler becomes a habitual gambler because it is not about fun but about returns. When anyone thinks gambling is way to multiply an amount then they will lose the fun. As their expectations from a game is to increase the bet amount and not reduce it such expectations always results in greater loss than casual profit.

In gambling losing money is one of the common things that will be experienced by all gamblers but maybe we will point to the difference in the amount of loss between gamblers, I think it is a fact that someone who comes with the aim of seeking pleasure then they will not really lose a significant amount, and vice versa when your gambling goal is to earn income then obviously the impact is unquestionable, they will suffer a large number of losses and they just spin in a cycle of chasing victory to restore something that has been lost.

I'm honestly not saying that when you gamble with fun in mind you will be able to avoid all the bad possibilities, I'm saying "no" because however the bad possibilities will always lurk for you at any time while you are still involved in gambling, And that means the key is that you must really put firmness on yourself in applying the mindset and perspective that is suggested on gambling because the fear is that it cannot be denied that in the end you can experience changes over time due to the difficulty of ignoring some of the temptations that come, and of course in the end gambling is no longer a pleasure for you but a place that will give a lot of pressure. So the point is to apply caution and full vigilance to minimize unwanted possibilities.
837  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you ever introduced an elder gambler to online betting? on: February 13, 2024, 02:56:54 PM
You would really be blamed and you would really be that having that sense of responsibility if you do see someone who have lost big time on gambling just because you do make out some recommendations. This is why it would really be that best that you shouldnt really be telling something about gambling specially into those old people. They do easily believe
when there's someone who would really be telling this and like that. Easy money? If the old person does have that gambling experience then it wont be an issue but if they are
totally newbie then for sure they would really be that impulsive even if  they are already on that old age or something can be called experience.
We are not all knowing being on which there would really always those gaps.

Yes and I think this is a possibility that really has great potential to happen, although basically they have a pretty good responsibility in themselves especially in real life but I'm not sure they can be someone who is responsible  when it comes to gambling, anyone will never like the name "loss" and when they really experience a losing situation then it is very likely that they will eventually come to you to blame.

I have always avoided the idea of promoting gambling to others especially some of my friends even though they basically always force me to tell them how to gamble and how to deposit on some online casino sites, but I say that I will never tell you because after all I care about some of my friends and I am afraid that they will eventually become addicted. If the people who get promoted are basically newbies or people who never knew about the world of gambling then obviously  there is a high probability that they will be able to think that gambling is a "place to earn" and usually this assumption and mindset will come when they manage to get a win, on the other hand I think on the contrary that we should avoid gambling from the elderly because I don't want them to spend their lifetime experiencing many bad effects of gambling.
Gambling? The quagmire traps even the most responsible people in uncertainty. Not only rejecting defeat, but the appearance of control. Everyone thinks they're special until reality hits.

Your defense of friends is admirable and important. Introducing beginners is dangerous; once they think about quick money, addiction is inevitable. The initial win is a hook, a siren's call that could have catastrophic effects.

Dont even mention the elderly. They should never risk their health or legacy. Money loss isnt the only issue; emotional and psychological damage is too. "The house always wins," and in this game, the "house" is not just the casino but gambling itself, feeding on hope and leaving sorrow.

Yes as I said above that even though they have a fairly responsible personality in real life but honestly I really wouldn't fully believe that they could be a responsible person if they were involved in gambling activities, this is another thing that raises another speculation and I have already mentioned my disbelief when they are involved in gambling. Gambling is a place that will have a bad impact on irresponsible people and gambling can also be a trap for those who are basically responsible in real life.

All the ideas that I said before that lead to preventive measures are all none other than my own experience, before that I once asked one of my friends who had already gambled to teach me how to gamble, he asked me "are you sure you want to get involved in gambling, think carefully" and I instantly said "Yes", and after that I was really in a bad situation where I lost balance in my finances which in the end I really realized that I shouldn't have asked my friend to teach me how to gamble, Although I don't blame them but still the bad impact is really felt by me and this is the reason why I really will never promote or teach someone to gamble, it is too risky especially for beginners who are really new to this activity or the elderly who should enjoy their old age with fun that does not involve risk.
838  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Selling a property to play gamble on: February 13, 2024, 02:32:54 PM

When the risk is big and the profits are small there isn't any need to take the risk because it's not profitable and still risky in a way you are not sure you will gain.
I agree to your comments that's some people who does things with common sense and with the awareness of what they are doing can not make these mistakes as they will think about the risk involved and if it doesn't worth it they just allow it flip away so they can avoid risking when losing is involved.
It can take much longer time to gather properties and can only take a seconds to sell them, to avoid any decisions that will make you sell is never to put the thought of recovering winning.

In gambling when you put a large budget amount then obviously the possibility of winning must also be large, but it's all nothing more than a "possibility" which means it doesn't necessarily happen, one of the things why we shouldn't put a large budget amount because of course there is absolutely no certainty for you to actually get a win at the end of the session, meaning the possibility of risk can never be avoided because what is called gambling is a certain amount of risk-taking activity, you will be able to be a healthy gambler when you only take low risks in the sense of putting a small amount on every gamble you do.

Yes you have repeated what I have said before that people who gamble based on their common sense and awareness will not dare to take risks that they cannot be responsible for in the end, as I said above that the possibility of risk can never be avoided completely and because of this responsible people prefer to put small amounts because the fear is that when they put large amounts that happen at the end of the session they lose, on the other hand they can win big but with a note must be really lucky while on the other hand anyone will never know when they are lucky. In gambling, the point is, never think about returning something that has been lost and don't put any hope in winning because this kind of mindset will only worsen your situation.
Players are willing to risk such large sums of money from the sale of real estate because they experience intense feelings that make them tickle their nerves. This euphoria from the fact that their life is about to change for the better, but at the same time they refuse to believe that they will lose. This unpredictability exalts them, they seem to be in flight. But after losing, this flight is interrupted by a loud impact on the ground and the gradual realization that the property can no longer be returned. The owner of a gambling establishment will be happy with such a client. And then the embittered player can attempt to win back by borrowing money from friends, but it won’t be nearly enough to win back the amount. So I did not recommend that anyone touch real estate, this is the basic level that allows us to live more calmly and with a roof under our heads without worrying that tomorrow we will have to spend the night anywhere.

Yes they can't ignore something they feel that is influenced by the temptation of gambling, I say they are too "prejudiced for gambling that is full of logic" so obviously because of this they are unable to miss all the whispers that enter their ears and minds. I think it's nothing more than the expectation of winning that makes them think of a million ways just to chase something that basically can never be chased unless by "chance" you're really lucky.

The hope that they put on winning makes them eventually rule out the possible risks involved in gambling and that can never be separated from this activity, and however the realization will usually come at the end along with regret. On the other hand, of course, casinos will be very happy with the audience or typical gamblers who are always greedy and who can never accept the fact of defeat like addicts because with gamblers who are always excessive in the sense that they have a wrong understanding, it will make casinos more and more profitable, and this is the reason why gambling should not be taken seriously let alone make it a place to earn because obviously the opposite will happen.
839  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: February 12, 2024, 04:37:24 PM

Exactly, Leverkusen is unstoppable this season in 21 matches they are unbeaten and the Bundesliga still leaves 13 matches meanwhile Bayern Munich has been defeated 3 times so does Bayern Munich still have a chance to pursue? I do not think so. I agree with you that the possibility of Tuchel will be fired because it failed to compete with Leverkusen in the Bundesliga but if Bayern Munich can win the Champions League, Tuchel might be considered, Tuchel only had a chance in the Champions League to cover up his failure.
I really hope that Bayern Leverkusen can break Bayern Munich's dominance in the Bundesliga. This season seems very appropriate for Leverkusen to be able to do that, with a fairly consistent performance, it will most likely be difficult to stop their progress. Since being handled by Tuchel, Bayern Munich has not experienced rapid improvement, last season they were able to win a trophy with great difficulty and it had to be determined until the last match. And I'm pretty sure it looks like Tuchel will be fired if he fails to give the Bavarians a title this season.
Like you, I want Bayer Leverkusen to beat Bayern Munich this season. According to my research, Leverkusen's 5-point advantage gives us optimism for a top-level shift. Alonso leading and with 13 matches left makes it exciting to be a supporter. As with you, Im trying to contain my excitement because the road ahead is full of surprises. I feel sorry for Tuchel. He's trying under pressure to preserve Bayern's legacy. It will be a memorable season if Leverkusen stays consistent and Bayern battles to catch up. In football, anything can happen. Lets hope for a thrilling season finale.

Leverkusen came as a complete surprise, one that I don't think they showed any indication of last season for this season which as we all know is a very surprising season. I don't know what Xabi Alonso's formula is, but certainly Leverkusen have undergone a very significant change since the arrival of this coach. This time we find an interesting situation like what happened last season where Dortmund gave a very tight competition to Bayern Munich towards the end of the season, previously I thought that last season Bayern Munich would fail to maintain its title dominance because Dortmund had a greater chance at the top of the table but it turned out that in the end they failed and the trophy fell back to Bayern Munich.

I think we'll see pretty much the same situation this season but I can't be completely sure yet. Of course, now Tuchel is in a situation that is far from safe / comfortable with a lot of pressure from the management, the advantage that Leverkusen has at the top of the standings is a thrilling situation for Tuchel, but as you said, anything can happen and we'll see if in the end the concerns of Bayern Munich fans will really happen or not.
840  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you have a "gambling problem" which you can sometimes control for years? on: February 12, 2024, 04:16:32 PM
If I talk about myself, to be honest, until now gambling has not damaged my relationship between activities and finances, and if I was forced to stop gambling it would be difficult for me, because I at least play casually at least twice a month so I not too worried about my gambling status,
If gambling only makes you depressed, it's better to stop

From what I can see it looks like you have a good understanding of gambling and that understanding makes you have a good approach to gambling which in turn makes you stay fine until now without experiencing any problems as a result of gambling, that's good and one thing, I hope you can maintain this understanding along with this approach in the long run, and maybe on the other hand my other message and advice is that I hope you maintain or even increase the awareness that is in you when you are gambling, no matter how infrequently you gamble, you really need to be strict with your mindfulness because as is often the case, a gambler can experience a change in mindset and perspective when they are fooled by curiosity as a result of seeing something tantalizing happening in one of your sessions, so with a weak level of mindfulness it is possible for you to experience a change in approach that could potentially lead to you becoming aggressive in gambling.
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