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You need to create a site that works. I tried to signup but it keeps telling me my password/email is wrong.
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Your picture looks almost fake  |
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Is anyone here planning on going to the auction?
I am not, but am considering sending in a bid via email. I dont have much to loose. Best case I win something cheap. Worst case I loose and get nothing. |
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how about a black arrow x-3 for it - they are worth like $3000 for 1 TH right?
I asked about such trades, he wasnt interested. |
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Still interested in buying them
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It appears your miners run cgminer? What driver do they use, and if it's your own driver, where is the source code to your driver?
HashCoins Apollo, Zeus and Poseidon (discontinued) miners are indeed built using HashFast's chips on a custom PCB, redesigned and upgraded from those of HashFast. The previous version of our web-interface is based upon cgminer, that's why we have no reason to publish the source, because it is the same. Thanks for clarifying. I would buy a unit of yours just chances of me breaking even even at your black friday deal prices are still unlikely. |
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It appears your miners run cgminer? What driver do they use, and if it's your own driver, where is the source code to your driver?
Aren't they just hashfast boards? I couldn't find any reference to that in the opening post. They are just hashfast boards. They might not want to admit it, but they are. They are hashfast chips but could be custom made pcb boards. |
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I will make the first bid for 10$
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Cool project, I may be getting involved in the crowdsale
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I think there are two key factors to consider when comparing mining systems/chips. 1) system dollars per GH. This is where big hot chips like Hashfast run into trouble. The cost (expensive board, big power supply, water cooling) makes scaling a mine too expensive. 2) system power (at the wall) per GH is also a factor as we all pay for power. The lowest I have heard HF do is about 0.90w/GH at a low hashrate 320 GH/s. There are lots of small chip systems that beat the crap out of this system power per GH. So small chips is the way to go for both cost and power.
The power numbers are wrong there. It's a Habanero as opposed to a Hashfast board, but it's running 405GH/s poolside on a 60 minute average (not what cgminer is reporting) and it's pulling 341W from the wall (including cooling) using a $40 850W HEC silver rated PSU. Any idea how much the cooling is using? I know that hashfast babyjet boards are not that efficient. I measured mine originally with the water cooling and got about 450watts. |
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I have noticed a problem with the site as show in the picture below, http://imgur.com/nBq8HkqThe first person bid at 6am but the second bid at 7am. shouldnt the first person have won at 6am or is there a hidden minimum price? There is no "hidden minimum price", quite insulting that you said this. More so since you were one of the successful winners in the past. This is simple to explain: - First bid is a standard bid, note the "Std" next to koko's name, this means that he manually pushed in the bid - Second bid is a Sniper bid, note the "SNP" next to his name, this means the system put it in on the user's behalf when the user configured a sniper bid Koko basically put in his first bid shortly after the auction started. The other users set their sniper bids up which only kick in just before an auction is about to end. I apologize, I clearly misunderstood how auctions started. I thought auctions started at the smallest price with 0 time set. Thanks for clarifying. |
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Many small chips require many more components, raising the total device cost and chance of failure.
Again you're completely wrong. Let's look at the number of components on a HF board.  That's a hell of a lot of components (many of them very expensive). Compared to something like an Antminer:  Very few components (all inexpensive). personally I think that has to do with hashfast not designing the board correctly. I am sure a cheaper board could be produced. |
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Yes small cooler chips are more efficient for sure, but bigger chips that get alot more power per chip are cheaper.
You're confusing size with density. "GH per chip" is size. "GH per mm^2" is density. Density means you get more hashrate per wafer. Size of the chip is meaningless. The amount of GH per Wafer has a direct affect on the GH per chip which goes into the price of a chip and eventually into the price of a unit. If you have 1 wafer that can make 100 chips and each chip is 10gh or 1 wafer for 100 chips and each chip at lets say 50gh, the second chip you have a better shot at turning a profit on. In your comparison all that matters is that one wafer has 1000 gh/s and one has 5000 gh/s. Using big chips is only detrimental because it requires $150 worth of watercooling for each chip compared to small chips which require ~$20 worth of extruded aluminum per KW for cooling. You don't need watercooling if you are using AM's immersion cooling. Big hot chips like HF's are perfect for Novec. Many small chips require many more components, raising the total device cost and chance of failure. If AM doesn't buy HF's 16nm design and stick 100,000 of them in datatanks ASAP, they will be crushed by KnC, BitFury, and Cointerra before the next block reward halving. I would have to agree, water cooling does cost alot more then air cooling but I am sure it is possible to aircool a hashfast chip. It might only run at 200gh but it might be possible. Relating to immersion cooling, I am not sure what the price of setting it up is, but I am sure it is more efficient then water cooling. If anyone gets bored and wants to try immersion cooling a hashfast board id gladly tip you a bit to get details on what happened. |
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I have noticed a problem with the site as show in the picture below, http://imgur.com/nBq8HkqThe first person bid at 6am but the second bid at 7am. shouldnt the first person have won at 6am or is there a hidden minimum price? |
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Yes small cooler chips are more efficient for sure, but bigger chips that get alot more power per chip are cheaper.
You're confusing size with density. "GH per chip" is size. "GH per mm^2" is density. Density means you get more hashrate per wafer. Size of the chip is meaningless. The amount of GH per Wafer has a direct affect on the GH per chip which goes into the price of a chip and eventually into the price of a unit. If you have 1 wafer that can make 100 chips and each chip is 10gh or 1 wafer for 100 chips and each chip at lets say 50gh, the second chip you have a better shot at turning a profit on. |
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I wouldnt say worthless. Hashfast still has the biggest hashrate per chip out there. The closest competitors come is Butterflylabs or cointerra at 400-600gh
"hashrate per chip" is a useless metric. In fact, it's worse than useless. The "big" chips are the least successful chips. The "small" chips are what has been successful, for good reason. I'll let you figure out why small is better. Yes small cooler chips are more efficient for sure, but bigger chips that get alot more power per chip are cheaper. |
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I would possibly do it if you were to use a google survey or survey monkey.
Sorry, We chose typeform due to the customization options as well as the ease of use. |
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So I guess this all means that us regular creditors are screwed.
All of us creditors have been screwed since the bankruptcy motion was filed months ago. The lawyers going through the motions and doing their expensive little dances just makes the screwing official. ASICMINER should try to outbid everyone else for HF's 28/16nm ASIC IP, but they'd probably rather waste money on another one of their own failed designs than simply buy a proven one and its bleeding edge successors. not sure what youre spouting nonsense like this for - Asicminer's BE200 is a 40nm chip that is capable of 0.7w/GH. They already have a 28nm BE300 taped out that is expected to be around 0.3w/GH at the chip level hashfast has effectively made thier hardware and IP worthless at this point I wouldnt say worthless. Hashfast still has the biggest hashrate per chip out there. The closest competitors come is Butterflylabs or cointerra at 400-600gh |
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I will be glad to but what is this for?
It is an escrow survey about Escrow services in general |
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