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I think this whole thing justifies why we need a court of users who are in no way related or have any interest in the person at hand. They hear the case and decide what happens. Weather it be innocent, a scammer tag, a untrustworthy tag or what else. Since i think its quite clear paid mods cant do there job
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Look I don't even know Garr all I know is that he buys silver from me and seems like a good kid. Here are some things I want everyone to think of when posting here asking for all of the things like scam tags, untrustworthy etc.
1. Do not ask for forgiveness for yourself and justice for others. This kid (17 years old) has publicly apologized and offered up 10BTC to the winners of those auctions as a way of reimbursing them when if you look at the bidding thread there was active bidders all the way through not just Werner.
2. Would you want every mistake you've made since the time you were 17 years old labeled to your account and to follow you forever? From his history and cognitive it looks like he also has done some pretty solid things for people.
3. How many of you have ever sold an item on eBay? Now of those people how many of you have ever had a friend bid on your item to help give it a boost? I can assure you most have. It sucks and that's why I hate online auctions most of the time because I feel like this happens more often than not.
He got caught. We are a small community. It was wrong we all can see that. He has publicly apologized and has offered to reimburse this who involved. I think that speaks volumes for a kid his age.
well I guess point number 3 makes it clear I wont be bidding on any of your auctions Why because I speak the truth? You and I know damn well that when we bid on an eBay item and in the last 10mins of the auction we get bid up dollar by dollar the auctioneer is bidding us up to our max. I've emailed eBay before and cancelled auctions that this has happened. It pisses me off. I hate that shit. It happens all the damn time too. The fact is he obviously learned this practice was acceptable via whatever means and now he has apologized for it offered damages an people are still crucifying him. I'm sure 99% of the people crucifying him have done something along the way the regret as well and wouldn't want a lifetime tag of it. I dont know what auctions you go to but It has never happened to me. |
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So to get things clear, if I dance the hoolahoop and say "Hoopla Bwana Hoopla" before I run off with the money after a deal here, that's okay because I did not state before the deal I would not do that?
According to theymos yes its okay |
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HE SAID HE'S SORRY, WTF dood!!!
Looks like everyone misses the part where he also gave 5 BTC to the victims. Just fyi I am a victim, and can say I have gotten 0 coins and no pm telling me im able to get 5coins. I will publicly state that if he wants to send me 5btc they can be sent to 1EcysP9UmvyW1zdD75noVdb8BVaRA7ZC8h The above address is also linked to my otc ratings |
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You still haven't answered the question. We all know why you haven't (because your answer would have to contradict the FUD you're spreading), but it is good to know that after promoting Pirateat40's massive fraud, you're still able to come back and continue promoting lies.
Hey, stop playing so fast & loose. Pirate has never scammed anyone. Did he specifically say that he wasn't going to run off with the money? In an interwebz-binding e-greement? No. So stop slandering & spreading FUD! U got pwnt by mah logics!  Agreed, I think pirate should get the scammer tag removed as well. He never said he wasnt just gonna disappear so its okay |
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Look I don't even know Garr all I know is that he buys silver from me and seems like a good kid. Here are some things I want everyone to think of when posting here asking for all of the things like scam tags, untrustworthy etc.
1. Do not ask for forgiveness for yourself and justice for others. This kid (17 years old) has publicly apologized and offered up 10BTC to the winners of those auctions as a way of reimbursing them when if you look at the bidding thread there was active bidders all the way through not just Werner.
2. Would you want every mistake you've made since the time you were 17 years old labeled to your account and to follow you forever? From his history and cognitive it looks like he also has done some pretty solid things for people.
3. How many of you have ever sold an item on eBay? Now of those people how many of you have ever had a friend bid on your item to help give it a boost? I can assure you most have. It sucks and that's why I hate online auctions most of the time because I feel like this happens more often than not.
He got caught. We are a small community. It was wrong we all can see that. He has publicly apologized and has offered to reimburse this who involved. I think that speaks volumes for a kid his age.
well I guess point number 3 makes it clear I wont be bidding on any of your auctions |
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Okay, I am looking into it. In the mean time I manually gave you the part.
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When have I ever scammed anyone of anything?
You still haven't answered the question. We all know why you haven't (because your answer would have to contradict the FUD you're spreading), but it is good to know that after promoting Pirateat40's massive fraud, you're still able to come back and continue promoting lies. Unless Matthew clearly said I plan to scam according to theymos then it wouldn't be okay. Since I am quite sure he didnt say that he doesnt deserve anytag. |
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How do I mine?
To mine you have to buy some hardware. After buying you simply choose which chain youd like to mine on The store has all red buy buttons, and my balance is higher than the costs of the items to buy. hmm, weird. Are all the items in stock? Yup, trying to buy 5830's. Please confirm your btc balance. It is working fine on my side. Also how many rigs do you have? There may be a built in limit or something I am unaware of |
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forcing StarSoccer to bid BTC63
Did Gar255 put a gun to his head? No one forced the bidders to do anything. Having an alt that artificially raises the bid price is similar to a secret reserve price in an auction. There's nothing inherently wrong with it except that Garr255 should have warned bidders that he might do it. I rank his actions there as "a bit shady," though he handled the fallout badly (due to inexperience, I suppose). In any case, alts aren't against forum rules, and scammer tags are typically only given when an explicit agreement is broken. Garr255 never promised not to bid on his own auctions. He never even promised to honor the results of the auctions. Without contracts that say otherwise, auctions are only devices to assist in price negotiations. I am not quite sure how you can justify bidding up your own auctions as an okay auction. A secret reserve is 100% differnt as its public posted and will not change. So because I say nothing it means its okay to do it?Personally anyone who runs an auction and doesnt go through with the auction if all the rules are followed for example a reserve price is met and He chooses to just not follow through I would mark down as untrustworthy and deserves the same thing Matt has under his name. It is a verbal agreement when you post rules in the auction that you plan to follow through with them. Otherwise your saying that I can post what ever I would like and not be held liable simply because I never said i wouldn't In any case since you are going with the "He never said he wouldn't" I think any scammer who scammed should just get the tag removed, as he never said he wouldnt scam. So its okay |
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So your trying to sell this which goes for a ton of money and you dont want to use escrow?
Seeing how no pictures were taken of the glasses, im going to say this is a scam.
I find it hilarious that you cant press the link in my original post and see the 2 pictures I put up. I also made it quite clear I will use escrow if you really want to but would prefer none |
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89.90 BTC
congrats its been many days and you went down 10$ |
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To tell you truth, I couldn't care leas about him and have no axe to grind, but I continue to be insulted by the double standard and corruption on these forums. There is not another person on these forums who gets as much flack as I do for the mistakes I've made, and Theymos (as he has twice) would waste no time theowing a scammer tag down (what was it, 20 second record last time I pissed him off?), yet it's been a whole day now and not a peep from dear leader. Forgive me for allowing myself to be emotional about something on the internet, but passion is what drives me, and once I learn that my role models, teachers, or offenders are worse than me, it is a bit of a wake up call to rise up and crush these false prophets.
There is no way I'm not going to start another forum project now, and not because I'm delusional or think I'll be particularly perfect and flawless, but because I know myself and what I would do if I were Theymos, and it wouldn't have been to ignore criticisms and stay in power all this time despite corruption, insider trading, theft and broken promises to the community. The disgust has reached a boiling point. I don't dare test the cultists by calling for anyone to "GTFO", but rather I should strive to build something where even I in all my flawed nature cannot possibly fuck it up this badly.
I personally have never had a problem with this forum. There have been scammers and such but thats life. Tho I do agree with Matt that something should be done or said. No mods posting is just pissing more people off. This could of been solved in less then an hour. Simply saying yes its true or no its false. Either way it would be done and solved instead you have users arguing about it and loosing trust in this forum. I have my own feelings and beliefs to base my actions on, but my reasoning for starting a new forum will be to provide a place where this kind of thing simply cannot happen. It will be challenging, but this pseudo-decentralizing community needs to start realizing just how much influence people have on everything from the price of their bitcoins to the opinions they hold. It's time for a platform that doesn't need Theymos, or accusations against Garr, or advertising money from bfl, and eventually won't need me either. I deserve it, this community deserves it, the internet deserves it. +1 if you need help id love to help with a decentralized site. It will be hard but interesting No offense to BFL or you but people have been complaining about BFL advertising on the forum. Nothing was solved as far as I know. |
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Is this legal? Are you part of the explorer project? Or did you order them at I/O? How did you come to the amount of $10,000 for them?
The 10k is a buy it now price as i saw one sell for 12k on Ebay Also no they were bought from someone else who sold them |
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To tell you truth, I couldn't care leas about him and have no axe to grind, but I continue to be insulted by the double standard and corruption on these forums. There is not another person on these forums who gets as much flack as I do for the mistakes I've made, and Theymos (as he has twice) would waste no time theowing a scammer tag down (what was it, 20 second record last time I pissed him off?), yet it's been a whole day now and not a peep from dear leader. Forgive me for allowing myself to be emotional about something on the internet, but passion is what drives me, and once I learn that my role models, teachers, or offenders are worse than me, it is a bit of a wake up call to rise up and crush these false prophets.
There is no way I'm not going to start another forum project now, and not because I'm delusional or think I'll be particularly perfect and flawless, but because I know myself and what I would do if I were Theymos, and it wouldn't have been to ignore criticisms and stay in power all this time despite corruption, insider trading, theft and broken promises to the community. The disgust has reached a boiling point. I don't dare test the cultists by calling for anyone to "GTFO", but rather I should strive to build something where even I in all my flawed nature cannot possibly fuck it up this badly.
I personally have never had a problem with this forum. There have been scammers and such but thats life. Tho I do agree with Matt that something should be done or said. No mods posting is just pissing more people off. This could of been solved in less then an hour. Simply saying yes its true or no its false. Either way it would be done and solved instead you have users arguing about it and loosing trust in this forum. |
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agreed, its been many days and no update
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I disagree with point 3, I can go and start printing pieces of paper tommarow and make it a new currency if I wanted to. Obvisually it wont be a secure one but that isnt the point
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