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ssaCEO I think you might need to update your sites rules and terms so everyone is clear on what is allowed and tolerated.
Good luck.
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you guys are good fun, I wish you the best of luck in your gamble  My investment is going well. I still feel you should follow my link and join  You will not regret it. And if you do; we can still be friends!! Love, Kaji  |
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About you mem... all I can say is that all I said about you is the truth. You're nothing more than a delusional pathological liar and anything you say shouldn't be given any credit whatsoever.
I still dont get where your delusions come from ? You lie and lie and lie, get called out on it and go quite (unable to defend your position I guess), then revert back to lying once again without ever justifying your positions. Ontop of that the childish insults..... I mean why bother even talking to me if thats your end point, I stop reading after the first one as you just deteriorate into a childish rant with no substance. Ignoring you for now until I see a civil email explaining wtf I am lying about, as you have clearly demonstrated the moment you have an audience you cannot ignore past butt hurts. How about you keep your nasty BFL fanboy butt hurt displays to appropriate threads, ie mining subforums. Now please guys, break it up. Like I said, you're both valued guests and we don't want to be in the middle of anything. I'm obviously over my limit on the amount of yelling going on in my threads already (mostly my own yelling, it's true)... I'd like to avoid giving the impression that I'm running some kinda madhouse over there. I realize I set a bad tone the last couple days, but can we all be civilized and get back to business? Done and done. Psy can either continue his ranting and ignored or discuss his personal grievances (which have no place here) in pm. Keep rocking SS and keep that bitcoin dream alive. |
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Okay. Everybody stay calm! Psy & Mem, this is a misunderstanding.
The Dooglus situation didn't have to do with referral abuse per se. I don't want to get into that again here... all of that is covered in the other thread, ends w/ Dooglus talking about how he beat our system by counting cards which was just another of many issues we had with him. I agree I handled it badly and lost my temper, and should have dealt with that in a better way. I agree I'm sometimes rough around the edges and not the best guy at handling PR.
However!
Mem: We never accused Psy of referral fraud. In fact I've talked with him and he's helped me with SEO tips. He's a good player on our site, has always been friendly at the tables, and he's been generous with his time. He is not under any suspicion. AFAIK he hasn't done anything wrong.
Psy: This misunderstanding arose for one reason, which was that a few months ago we got a bunch of referrals from your link in the "Mem's Gambling List" thread, but we had none from Mem's own link. I don't know why that is. I think it was the fact that your link was the most visible. I suggested to Mem that he could make his own referral link more visible to capture some of the traffic from the thread.
We looked internally at your referrals at the time to see if there were any questionable play patterns involving the referrals. There were not. We did not have further discussions about it with Mem.
I should be clear that even if Psy was telling people "hey go to this thread and click my link" that is by no means referral abuse. We're happy to have that. Referral abuse is if the accounts being referred belong to the same person. We thoroughly analyze these patterns for all referrals, and I want to stress that there is no evidence that Psy did anything unusual or was even aware that people were clicking that link.
I can understand why Mem might have taken away from this that Psy was up to something, I think at the time I wrote that we were going to look into the reasons; however as far as we were concerned after checking the reports, there were no problems, case closed. Psy does not appear on any of our internal reports and has never raised any red flags in our system.
Mem, I don't know if or what you've heard from other site owners, and we don't share information with other sites about players.
I'm sorry for the misunderstanding this has caused between you guys. You're both great guests on our site and we like having both of you there. I hope this clears the air.
Well thank you for clearing up that confusion, we all have our bad days (try not to have them at work if you can ). Running an online/other casino means you will have players rock up with their systems (or looking for exploits). I do it myself (see my satoshidice bot). It is up to the casino to ensure a profit, sure live casino's can and will kick you out (2x for me) but they will wear the bad PR if handled bad. If card counting is indeed an issue, so be it or up the deck count or ban the player. Glad to see the thread is back on track, Psy I hope this has cleared up any confusion. Dooglus I hope you get a satisfactory resolution, I hope you do not get banned but please note I consider site bans the right of the casino operator and it would not keep a site out of my list (refusing to payout any wins however would). |
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Josh and mem, one of you 2 will have to put up or shut up. I'm not letting this go. My what an entitled and unpleasant person you are, 1 page ago you attack me without provocation now you are making demands. Civility people (ssaCEO, PSY and potential Dooglus sock puppets), it goes a long way. My automatic attitude to any demand is to say no, because I am a bit of a prick - so .... NO edit: Id say no anyway, this is for ssaCEO to address. I put my 2c in to vouch for the site and the operator and to call for calmer heads. |
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mem, you better do an update on your gambling thread and warn people about this SS quirk. If i wish to retain my lists integrity Id better do no such thing. At this point in time all we have is a unpleasant (would you say ugly Dooglus ?) dispute between a site admin and a gamer. There are absolutely no claims of cheating, unfair results and 0 payout issues. Should any of these matters change contact me directly by email ASAP. For example: You could be the world's biggest 'Inaba' and Id still list your site if everything checked out. |
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OK Im getting distracted from work here so this is a quick update then Im back into it.
Dooglus I went back through my emails etc and did not find you mentioned, I fear I have mistaken accusations against you for accusations against PSY (small world isnt it).
PSY has been under suspicion of referral fraud and questions raised with myself (and others) regarding the activities.
The information provided is quite convincing (Id believe it) and I find it unlikely the site admin went to manufacture this scenario around PSY - there is not a simple explanation for that motive. The simpler explanation is that PSY did indeed abuse the referral system and wishes to hide it.
I am not disclosing who or what site (you can guess Im sure) or the contents of the emails / PM's.
There is a reason people chose to discuss these things in private when there is only suspicion.
To make my position clear again:
I like SS's site.
My previous dealings with ssaCEO has been without issue (but I am not a normal client).
The handling of this dooglus issue was bad to say the least.
Abusing a referral system is a dick move, so is abusing any promotion imho.
I still stand by the SS site and I hope ssaCEO will come back refreshed and clean up this mess and confusion.
A polite refusal or even a simple ban would of sufficed I feel rather than the threads we have all seen by now.
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WTF??? Why are you giving any credit to anything mem says?
He's a delusional character who's still screming that BFL is a scam and BFL Single mining devices don't exist, despite hundreds, maybe thousands of them were already delivered and are mining away lol
Psy, I dont know where to begin (his entire summary is made up of lies and out of date & out of context quotes) so I wont bother. Im guessing you are a child who I have previously frustrated and are unable to see past your butt hurt in any further dealings. Trolling this thread here because of your butthurt is just pathetic and childish (Inaba is that you  ). Anyway, there is no room for your lies or personal insults here please attempt to stay on topic (I know your butthurt makes it hard). I suggest you grow up and shut up unless you have something of substance to contribute to this discussion. There are many many many threads discussing Big Fucking Liars where you are able to defend them and insult anyone daring to question them as much as your little fanboys heart desires. This is a discussion regarding StrikeSapphire. Me, defending BFL? I don't think so... Maybe you've seen me telling to raging lunatics thet they are ragng lunatics, which are two completely different things. I don't even mine, so I could care less about defending some company that produces mining devices. But you're still a lunatic. If anyone here is butthurt it's you, not me... I love it how raging lunatics always seem to confuse people who call out their bullshit with people defending someone or something. Just one more time, to clear things up: I'm attacking your bullshit, not defending BFL. Got it, lunatic? So what is your reasoning behind your childish tantrum just now ? How it is relevant at all. You as a individual do not respect me..... noted and not a shit given. Enough people consider my opinion on games respectable that I am frequently contacted and asked to comment. So again I say, you are a butthurt little troll trolling unsuccessfully. edit: so I do not let you troll this thread of topic I have placed you temporarily on ignore. Should you wish to discuss your hurt feelings please drop me an email, I have a feeling you might be more mature without an audience to play up for. |
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WTF??? Why are you giving any credit to anything mem says?
He's a delusional character who's still screming that BFL is a scam and BFL Single mining devices don't exist, despite hundreds, maybe thousands of them were already delivered and are mining away lol
Psy, I dont know where to begin (his entire summary is made up of lies and out of date & out of context quotes) so I wont bother. Im guessing you are a child who I have previously frustrated and are unable to see past your butt hurt in any further dealings. I suggest you grow up and shut up unless you have something relevant of substance to contribute to this discussion. Arguing that "I DONT LIKE MEM HE WAS MEAN TO MEEEEEE MUMMY" is just pathetic. There are many threads discussing Big Fucking Liars if you actually wanted to discuss your grievances instead of trolling here because you are still upset. |
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Hi guys, its mem - the beloved & hated gambling list maintainer.
Dooglus FYI site operators from several sites contacted me over a month ago with concerns regarding your (and 2 other members) activities, mainly potential referral abuse.
I defended you saying I had seen nothing on the forums to demonstrate you were abusing anything but I did acknowledge that the descriptions of the refereed accounts and their activities did sound like someone purposefully generating accounts to collect referrals.
That's so weird. Are you sure it was me? I don't think I have ever used a referral code for anything except Sapphire, and the only two people who ever deposited using my Sapphire code are IRL friends of Deb's. I've only gambled at Seals, Sapphire, Bitzino, SatoshiDice and MyriadCoins, and of those only Sapphire even offers a referral scheme as far as I know. I signed up for some ridiculous "bitcoin pyramid scheme" over a year ago, and may have posted my URL for that somewhere once, but I doubt if that's what you're talking about, so you've got me stumped. Yes Dooglus you were mentioned. Honestly I was unsure what I could do to help if you were scamming via referrals as I just maintain the list. If you ever figure out how to game a pyramid system (without being at the top  ) be sure to let me know. |
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Adding to my list under pending.
Thank you. Competition in a free market is a good thing. This is completely true, SD has suffered several outages and if you play your cards right you will be there to fill the needs of the gamers next outage |
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That being said, abusing a system is not cheating, though it is a sleazy practice at best. Just like if I and my girlfriend were to play side by side showing each other our hands during a poker tournament.
No, that's cheating. Yes, that is collusion as previously stated, both are sleazy practices and imho as bad as each other. In hindsight that sentence is not very clear. editing for clarity. |
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Hi guys, its mem - the beloved & hated gambling list maintainer.
Dooglus FYI site operators from several sites contacted me over a month ago with concerns regarding your (and 2 other members) activities, mainly potential referral abuse. EDIT: It was actually PSY that I had emails and PM's regarding, sorry Dooglus.
I defended you saying I had seen nothing on the forums to demonstrate you were abusing anything but I did acknowledge that the descriptions of the refereed accounts and their activities did sound like someone purposefully generating accounts to collect referrals.
That being said, abusing a system is not cheating, though it is a sleazy practice at best.
The site admins should take steps to ensure their systems are abuse proof, this has the unfortunate side effect of drastically reducing referral bonuses (which is what I believe SS is trying to avoid) but if the system is being constantly abused by a few bad eggs then its time to change (as the users will just create new accounts and use new IP's).
SS should ban as they see fit, personally were I suspecting the players of what they described Id simply eat the accounts value, blame hackers (you gots keylogged bro !!!) and let them cry about it on the forums.
My advice for sites wishing to avoid having dicks abuse your refferals is to only pay a % of the 1st N bitcoins lost for that account.
eg:
A refers B.
B cashes in X 20
B loses 5
b Cashes out Y 15
A receives ( X - Y ) * percent.
and I would only do this for the 1st N rounds (a round being cash in and cash out cycle).
ssaCEO - You have my continued support. Its a shame to see how this latest issue was handled but shit happens as they say. Might I recommend next time simply politely refusing service instead of feeding the trolls (if dooglus was trolling).
StrikeSapphire has a really professional finish to the site, the bonuses and freerolls are some of the best in the bitcoin community.
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Added and tested http://btcdice.com/ (satoshi dice clone). Personally I dislike the site as it reeks of plagiarism, still imitation is the most sincere form of flattery so they say. |
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another satoshi dice  I hate to be this guy, but your website is nearly a clone of SD as is the game. Good luck but may i suggest employing some originality. Adding to my list under pending. |
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ok updated. New section just for FPS games with bitcoins, imho this is a fantastic development and we need more...MOOOAAAARRRRR Thanks to everyone who keeps messaging me with updates for the list I need to update dreamisland lotteries entry as well - just very busy atm. |
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Always good to see another list and really nice to see it plugging indie games I have seen that FPS bitcoin before, its great. Im to rusty (I last played seriously when modding quake 1) and Im afraid the kids would make me a laughing stock if I went on but I loooooove the idea. Adding both now. |
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Difficulty change would keep the amount of bitcoins being produced on par with current rates. The price will still increase as the profitability rate for each MH/s will decrease due to the increased difficulty.
Wishful thinking my friend. Bitcoin miners fall into 2 groups, hoarders or dumpers. There is a fixed income of BTC for miners regardless of the total hash power of the miners. This just means we will have more miners selling the same amount of bitcoins monthly but less per miner. For the price to go up there needs to be a demand from the buyers not the sellers (miners). I personally hope that the difficulty skyrockets so high that no one including that abohrent company of Big Fucking Liars can make a profit and mining becomes purely altruistic . |
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The game is afoot.
Notice how all the walls got eaten during the btccharts outage..... somehow I dont think its a coincidence.
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