#1 is a yes, based on the answer to #3. and here I was giving you credit for being an intelligent individual and now..... this utter nonsense. Well, thanks for clarifying your endorsement of dressed up scams btcmania. |
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Just wondering, do you dislike Ponzi's or do you dislike some of the guys who run Ponzi's?
I dislike ponzi's - they are simple scams that most people are unable to see through. I was here calling bullshit on pirate@40's scam while the rest of the forum was onto him hook line and sinker. There is nothing useful about a ponzi, they are purposefully deceptive by nature and cannot exist in a currency/ commodity with a finite resource. I liken all ponzi operators to the good old fashioned con artists &/ grifters. |
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I have to be fair and admit my own fault - so I'll do it here as well for all to see: There is inconsistency in your posts and defamation.
1. We do not claim the term Provably Fair - "This does not make us a scam"
2. We have not opened for monetary betting - "This does not make us a scam"
3. We never denied that we would prove random results. - "This does not make us a scam"
How about instead of "swinging your balls in the wind" you tell us what you would like to see and we will provide it. It is called constructive criticism...I can take it.
Well, It appears I may need to eat some humble pie. Please, excuse my terrible approach to these concerns I have raised.May we start again and address some key concerns: 1) You claim "The First And Only True Random Online Roulette", casino.bit (think thats the one) uses a real roulette table which I would argue is true random. At this point it is hair splitting but I would argue you are not the first "true random". 2) I see in your reply you do have plans to provide a method for players to verify their roles, this is ideal. 3) Will players be able to set their own client seed ? In my defense, its pretty hard to believe you would build a bitcoin casino without ensuring results are provably fair but a mistake is mistake and I ripped into the admin unfairly. Props to him for continuing to represent his site despite my poor approach to the concerns I have. |
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I am not going to sit here and argue with you troll. Find another bitcoin roulette site that goes beyond "prob fair" using random.org or another third party.
First off we have not started accepting bets so we have not "scammed" anyone. You should not throw around false accusations so quickly without proof.
We have opened trials for users of the forum and have had some good feedback on the system.
We use white noise generated random numbers using a complete hardware setup, not a third party such as random.org making us the only "true random" generated setup on the net.
I suggest before you bad talk someones business you at least request a demonstration or give them try. Otherwise stay off my thread.
hey, if you cant explain your claims of "provably fair" then you should not be making ANY. I looked through your website before making this post, I couldnt see how a player is expected to verify their bet results - can you enlighten me ? For a true provably fair roulette game see satoshiroulette.com 's implementation. site secret that changes every 24h + users txid are used to generate the resulting spin. That is NOT true random... The closest/simplest way your going to get to TRUE RANDOM numbers is this "Below" based on a generator that uses avalanche noise. Which if you search the net has passed all almost all randomness tests. The others you are listing are Pseudo Random. For example downloading random images off google images and counting all of the black pixels would be considered "random" but not "true random". This might be a little over your head... I would do some reading before trying to call someone out. And as I listed in my previous post I would like a LIVE VIDEO FEED of our hardware in version 2 with a digital print out. I am not out to "scam" I am only out to change the scene. This is a hobby for me not my day job.  Don't get so seriousss.  reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_%28electronics%29#Avalanche_noisereference: http://www.maximintegrated.com/app-notes/index.mvp/id/3469I will however appease you and put all of this information on the website along with infographs and simplistic diagrams explaining how it works. Thanks! correct, but it is provably fair random which yours is not. Im thrilled to see you sampling "your balls humidity level" to generate the seed for your RNG but we still need a way for players to verify their results which you are not demonstrating. Additionally players need to be able to set their own seed if you really want to claim provably fair for random number games. As I said before we have not opened for actual BTC betting and I am not here to get in a dick swinging contest. I am pretty sure I said we are TRUE RANDOM and no where on our site or this forum does it use the term "provably fair" regarding our business. So you should have stated that before you would play you would want to know that we are as you say "provably fair" and of course we will do that before opening for monetary betting. You just have a bad way of approaching people. There is inconsistency in your posts and defamation. 1. We do not claim the term Provably Fair - "This does not make us a scam" 2. We have not opened for monetary betting - "This does not make us a scam" 3. We never denied that we would prove random results. - "This does not make us a scam" How about instead of "swinging your balls in the wind" you tell us what you would like to see and we will provide it. It is called constructive criticism...I can take it. Well, It appears I may need to eat some humble pie. Please, excuse my terrible approach to these concerns I have raised.May we start again and address some key concerns: 1) You claim "The First And Only True Random Online Roulette", casino.bit (think thats the one) uses a real roulette table which I would argue is true random. At this point it is hair splitting but I would argue you are not the first "true random". 2) I see in your reply you do have plans to provide a method for players to verify their roles, this is ideal. 3) Will players be able to set their own client seed ? |
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Guys -
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are you trying to kill me ?  Thats a lot of work even with my new site to punch all that data in. Dont worry bit777 you were the last in queue before I went offline for about 6 months, your the first in queue to be approved etc. If the admin / 1 of the sites PR team would like a beta account for memslist.com just drop me a PM and I'll set it up. The new site allows site owners to update their games min, max bets, description etc. Nice to see dogecoin supported  |
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RiverBoatBTC I admire your efforts greatly, keep up the good work.
If your ever in Perth Australia, hit me up and we can talk bitcoin over a few beers and a bbq.
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I am not going to sit here and argue with you troll. Find another bitcoin roulette site that goes beyond "prob fair" using random.org or another third party.
First off we have not started accepting bets so we have not "scammed" anyone. You should not throw around false accusations so quickly without proof.
We have opened trials for users of the forum and have had some good feedback on the system.
We use white noise generated random numbers using a complete hardware setup, not a third party such as random.org making us the only "true random" generated setup on the net.
I suggest before you bad talk someones business you at least request a demonstration or give them try. Otherwise stay off my thread.
hey, if you cant explain your claims of "provably fair" then you should not be making ANY. I looked through your website before making this post, I couldnt see how a player is expected to verify their bet results - can you enlighten me ? For a true provably fair roulette game see satoshiroulette.com 's implementation. site secret that changes every 24h + users txid are used to generate the resulting spin. That is NOT true random... The closest/simplest way your going to get to TRUE RANDOM numbers is this "Below" based on a generator that uses avalanche noise. Which if you search the net has passed all almost all randomness tests. The others you are listing are Pseudo Random. For example downloading random images off google images and counting all of the black pixels would be considered "random" but not "true random". This might be a little over your head... I would do some reading before trying to call someone out. And as I listed in my previous post I would like a LIVE VIDEO FEED of our hardware in version 2 with a digital print out. I am not out to "scam" I am only out to change the scene. This is a hobby for me not my day job. Don't get so seriousss. reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_%28electronics%29#Avalanche_noisereference: http://www.maximintegrated.com/app-notes/index.mvp/id/3469I will however appease you and put all of this information on the website along with infographs and simplistic diagrams explaining how it works. Thanks! correct, but it is provably fair random which yours is not. Im thrilled to see you sampling "your balls humidity level" to generate the seed for your RNG but we still need a way for players to verify their results which you are not demonstrating. Additionally players need to be able to set their own seed if you really want to claim provably fair for random number games. |
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What about adding a note/symbol for those that offer games with jackpots? Ahhh, so nice to talk to an actual gambler and not a scam operator desperately defending their scam. Yes, yes, 100 times yes. I love a good jackpot, definitely adding it. Cheers, keep up with the good suggestions all. |
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Have you been scammed by 120cycle?
And to make up a story to give a negative Trust rating is very very poor, sorry.
For everyone else, please just give this system a try. You won't be disappointed.
Everyone else - please do not invest in a Ponzi Scheme. 120cycle, lets discuss "your game". 1) is it a gambing game - NO 2) is it a ponzi - YES 3) do ponzi's keep operating until they run out of funds / new users - YES. Let me know if I missed anything critical there. |
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this is spam. provide evidence to backup your claims. even look at the other thread, you base it off nothing just screaming SCAMMMM
Poor Nick, so desperate to discredit me he is supporting other scammers. |
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oh look, a newbie coming out to defend a new ponzi scheme - what a surprise: thebearjew
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Additional list categories: | Badge | Description | | Progressive_Jackpot | Thanks to Financisto for the suggestion
. | | Provable_Results | Which is not the same as "provably fair"
. | | Provably_Fair_Gold | Fair & Provable results.
Not only is it provable, players can set their own seeds/ seed is from a player controlled input (eg txid)
. | | Unfriendly_Admin | For sites run by dicks (eg mpoe-r)
. | | False Advetiser | For sites that advertise with false claims, eg https://www.bitroulette.se/ claiming to be the first provably fair bitcoin roulette table.
. | | Not_Provably_Fair | for sites like https://www.bitroulette.se/ that make the claim of being provably fair without any proof.
for sites that dont offer anyway to verify bets.
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Any other badges a site might need ? I thought of these today after arguing with several twerps about their scam casinos. |
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well that was a bit of fun, terrorizing scammers running chain games etc.
I'll punch out some BB code templates tonight and try and finish off the site.
you really do love trolling dont you Hello scammer, everyone meet our latest scammer who insists he really isnt. Maybe he is just an idiot who doesnt grasp what provably fair means ? who knows  please enlighten me If you dont know then you definitely should not be claiming it. |
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gee my list of scammers & shills is growing quickly.
Quick note, dont bother private messaging me with threats of "libel lawsuits" like some big sook did on the weekend it just my truth-erection harder.
Do send me a summons so I can report you to the financial fraud dept of your country.
Defending Ponzi's gets you listed as "dangerous fucking idiot / shill", dont like it ? then get some common sense into you.
Stay true to yourself that is fine but can you please make the difference between defending ponzis and having an opinion that is between ponzi owners should be han.ged and ponzis are great? I think ponzis are bad because most are sc.ammy and because it is gambling but a ponzi that advertise itself as such looks like a gambling game to me and I think I am not the only one who thinks that, Theymos said the same thing, do you think he is a ponzi shil.l? message received ! I'll save passion for the ponzi operators, obvious shills will get listed, suckers will be just listed as "ponzi investor". |
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Please see this message: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=529547.msg5885726#msg5885726Where he acknowledges his game is not provably fair and then resorts to the "so what, other people do it" argument. Game set and matched Nick, you are a scammer and all sites associated with you will be treated with heavy scrutiny. let me know how you get on crying to the mods. You can either lie (like you are) and get called out on it then put on a little tantrum like you are doing right now. Or Be honest and when accused address the point of contention rather than avoiding it (which you are). The onus is on you to bear the proof man No, the onus is on you, you made the claim provably fair, you operate a casino, it is your responsibility to uphold your reputation. You run the site, you claim provably fair and when given a passing inspection there is nothing provably fair about it. Thanks for revealing yourself so quickly, I was right to call you out. read the site and also the original thread then? It has already been explained many times. Care to explain how there is "nothing provably fair about it"? see step 1,2,3,4 in title post. This is not even a gambling game, it is a "last person holding the bag is a fucking idiot" game. Im very familiar with the bitcoin gem games, the chinese lucky egg game etc etc - its an age old con. So your argument boils down to every other chain/gem game out there sucks or is a scam so therefore this must be a scam also. Nice logic there |
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LMAO, dude your coming across desperate now. Thanks for warning me against LetsTalkBitcoin.com Ive no doubt it will be poluted by adds for scams. Not going to give you my life story proceeds to give lift story.... lmao. ok when you have finished crying, feel free to address the point of contention which still is: "How is your site provably fair"..... answer ? its not and neither is any bitcoingem game. |
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How comes that you come up with this accusation for no reason?
REASON = You are operating a HYIP / Ponzi scheme out of the gambling subforum - you know exactly what your doing, know its wrong and know its in the wrong spot.
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ITS A SCAAAAAAAAAM ^ Im loving my meme and its reminding me its time to re-watch ace ventura. |
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